Steam powered Machine Shop 87 Makin do...
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This time I re-make a part for the Liley steam engine cylinder on a 1937 Atlas 9" lathe. I hope to finish machine work and fully assemble that engine in the NY shop this spring. Comments, discussion and questions always welcome here. Thanks for watching.....Dave
Awesome to see a new post from you. We have missed you a lot 😊 glad your back hope all is well.
I regularly watch a few “machine shop” channels, ranging from full on “true” commercial shop involved with heavy machinery (the tube being a little on the side) through to a shop with CNC. Always find the steam driven shop a great watch.
Good to see you back at it. Can't wait for more videos from the Old Steam Powered Machine Shop!
I would like to say, you have a very nice, clean and well laid out shop. The Atlas lathe is good however one needs to make fixtures to work with it. As for the threading work I use thread checking micrometers and gages to get very tight thread fits.
Every winter , for the last few years, I miss seeing you up in New York. I really like that old style machine shop. Until the spring, I'll be content to see this video, and any others you put up while in Florida.
Just love the videos. I wish you could make more of them.
Nice work Dave, keeps you busy down south.
Bonjour David,
Bonne Année !
You are too rare on videos and I hope we see you soon surroundeed by steam again 😉
Amicalement, Raphaël
Excellent work Dave! Always a pleasure watching and learning from you!
watching you work,, I feel like I am watching my father when he use to make brass nuts for boat shafts.. Thank you for my trip down memory lane. Keep up the good work
Hi Dave, Nice job! shows what can be done on an old machine. I have a 1940's raglan lathe and I am about to try my hand at threading, seeing this video has made it a little less daunting, thank you! The thread is most likely whitworth pipe thread which was 11 TPI from 6 1/2 inches down to 1 inch and 14 TPI below that.
Yes, pretty close to 1 1/2" BSPT.
And 55 degree thread angle..
Thank you for your effort and quality of work and everlasting legacy! Greetings from Romania!
Thanks, very good to hear from Romania....Dave
man i hope you have an apprentice. what a wealth of knowledge
Hi David, that is one big whistle on the floor, is it from a factory or a ship? Oh happy newyear to you, from Chris in France.
Nice one Dave . Looks a great little lathe . 👍
Great to see you again! Thanks for sharing and enjoy the Florida weather. 😅
Nice work, really enjoyed that! I am also a great believer in sneaking up on the best fit. Every thread, especially on old machinery, is slightly different!
Phil UK
looking great.....cheers from Orlando, Florida, Paul
I went to an all boys secondary trade college in the 1960s in Australia, we had similar, atlas lathes in our turning and fitting class rooms, they were so worn out and abused by generations of schoolboys, but they still worked. The idea was to turn out a large number of all kinds apprentices in the 60s as demand for them was massive . Seeing your videos always takes me back to those machine shop classes or my uncles engineering works. I can almost smell the cutting fluid.😁 wonderful work.
Thanks Robert for your great comment, it was the same here in this country and large industries that would take high school grads into their apprentice programs. Sadly, the industries and school shops have disappeared now and we are at the mercy of foreign suppliers.....Dave
that lathe (which OSHA would NEVER approve of) with those exposed pulleys and belts. reminds me of my restored Dalton Lot 4 which is missing the casting for the pulley cover. I first got it as scrap covered in rust and spent about a year restoring it.
Good to see you and a happy new year .From the north of the 49th West coast Canada
Stay warm up there guys, throw another log on the fire, get your lathe going and make something.....Dave
its great to see you again dave!
Dave; the problem you've faced and conquered is the fact you're cutting a fairly fine pitch thread on a lathe without prismatic ways so cross slide slop has to be watched closely. The Atlas was notorious for the teeny little small diameter graduated thimbles on the compound and cross slide. That makes cutting of threads a very exacting experience. I noticed you engaged the lead screw with tool bit at a bit of distance from the piece so you obviously know this lathe's flat-ways-cross-slide-wobble-take-up well and managed as expected.
Old school at its best! Thanks pal. Good to see you back!
To make it easy for me to return the cross slide I place a dial indicator on the cross slide and zero it out so the carriage can be adjusted repeatedly.
Good idea. Only superman could read the tiny dial on the Atlas, I just put a mark on it to return to.....Dave
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By te way, Dave,. Congratulations on a very clear video of each step on your old flat bed lathe. We've had several Atlas 7" and 10" lathes over the years as well as the better Myford lathes out of England, that used proper cut steel, not zinc diecast gears like the Atlas. But ANY lathe is better than NO lathe. ;-)
EVentually we moved up and were selling bigger ones. Our biggest two, a 50 foot between centers at the Dominion Bridge works in Montreal,
and sold a 52" spindle bore Heyligenstadt lathe to Rolls-Royce in England, used to make the precision turbine rings.
Lathes are . . . . neat King of Machine Tools !
"Any lathe is better than no lathe"😏......Dave
Dave - A good video to watch with my after lunch tea. You're not missing anything up here in Tioga County today - raining and 39. Enjoy the sunshine down there. Dale
Thanks, could be alot worse....Dave
Nice work Dave good to see you again!
I'm pleased to hear that You found the little Atlas lathe quite capable for the job David because at Lotus in the mid 1950s one of those was our sole lathe but the Boss did buy a vertical attachment for Me ! Soon be time for You to venture back up North and get that fire lit isn't it ?Thanks for the video -as ever .
Probably nicer than factory original!
That little lathe is nice and quiet with no geared head.
Great to see another vid.
Nice to see ya back make'n parts. Take care
In Florida? Dressed like your in upstate NY, but your missing sub-zero this winter. Stay well.
Nice to see the hexagon made by hand. Good result. Thanks for sharing.
Nice job! I enjoyed the video.
Have an old Atlas just like yours but with the timken head. Love the overhead drive, smooth running. Not a production machine but have produced a lot of parts over the years!
Yeah, I wish this one had roller bearings....Dave
I was like HEY,,,Wheres Mr Richards,,,
Glad to see you back at it..
Steam Driven. Even Nuclear is driving your lathe with steam.
DITTO 👌
Hallo David,
Good to see a new video.
All the best for 2024 from us in Friesland in the Netherlands
Hi Henk, good to hear from Netherlands. What are you building these days?....Dave
@@davidrichards5594 Hello David,
At the moment I am rebuilding an old Belgian Motorcycle .
Make Minerva from 1902.
I need to make a lot of new parts.
Tank,brake in the rear wheel ,ignition, carburator (from a brass casting)and so on.
I hope to start driving this summer.
At the end of summier I have a special run in Germany for motorcycles made before 1908.
Sorry I keep myself bust.
Greetings from Me.
Keep up the food work.
Ps how are you doing with you generator is there some progress?
I love watching that little lathe make good quality parts.
Nice work as always David. I was expecting you to explain the use of an 11 tpi chaser though!
It’s been a while since you’ve done a hexagon, that’s why you could have made the mistake. Sr. I’ll be 60 next month and’s I forgot some stuff when I worked in a machine shop when I graduated from high school though the years
Excellent work - thanks for sharing
Great to watch you work, even without the line shafts. Sadly, it took 2 days before I found your video tucked way below all the other silly stuff that youtube wanted me to watch. Keep warm.
I have made many van norman 1/2 5v tooling on my atlas 10. These lathes with modern inserts and proper adjustments can keep just a few tenths tolerance if you take your time and understand the lathe.
Good to see you at work again, Dave! Bet you are glad to be down south about now with all that cold winter going on up north. I miss steam machinery, so I should make me one. All I have for a shop is a mini lathe and a Hobby class mill. Should be enough to make a small one.
As you say Dave it's all in the set up, and never make mistakes only make corrections. Thanks for your time. Paul
Good video hope to see you at the meet and greet at Florida flywheelers in February. if you need anything while in Florida let me know.
I so miss your videos!! Glad to see all is well Dave. Thank you for another great video!!
Hey up mate that was another beautiful job loved how you sneak up on the thread, have watched all your videos but i do miss the clock when you're in Florida hope the hot rod is seeing some action
Nice, clean lathe and shop, it’s looking good down there!
I always enjoy your videos and solid old school craftsmanship.
Nice work Dave
Have a good time down in the worm weather
I wish my atlas lathe was in that good of shape. I love the thing but sadly it has seen better days.
Awesome!
This lathe is pure machinists porn ! 😄
Great to see a new video! Love your content!
Love it please make more videos
Glad to see more content from you. I also spend winter in Florida. Is that lathe the same one that was sold at one time by Sears?
Sears sold the Atlas as well as others under their name
Dave, do you have any kind of milling machine in your Florida shop? It seems well equipped.
No I don't, but I'm looking for a small one, bench top size....Dave
Maybe a Proxxon like that fellow in Germany has. He squeezes some nice work out of little machines.
Good to see you back at work.
Dave, Thanks for the refresher on cutting threads. Might want to comment on the adjustments made to the cross slide and compound tool post. (i.e., why 29 not 30 degrees) . Minus 20 Hon for your file technique. You know files only cut in one direction...🙂 God Bless! KW
Keith, you know why, you Techo.....Dave
Good to see a video from you. I had been checking over the summer and fall to make sure I hadn't missed any. I suspect it was a hot year for steam power.
only time i ever heard "11/16 fine" let alone that large ..... hmmmm .... i do believe only other place i know of ; cummins N14 , N series head bolts
i gotta stop by sometime . mother in law is in your NY backyard 😅
Nice Kennedy 520 you have there. Is that a Timken or babbit lathe? I recently inherited an Atlas TV42 and I have been slowly tightening thing up on her with a few upgrades along the way. Her cross slide and compound nuts were totally clapped out.
I believe the spindle bearings are brass on this one...Dave
Nice. That's pretty much identical to mine but the compound slide is more square . I have turned Honda 90 cylinder heads to rebush the cam bearings, Made many rollers and shafts for conveyors,scraped keyways and even made plastic gears as I have a 60 hole indexing plate which is so useful and not found on modern machines much
Interesting Don, this lathe has a ring of 60 holes on the side of the spindle pulley gear with a plunger stop that could also be used for indexing.....Dave
Did you ever get anywhere running the New York workshop lighting off your smaller steam engine?
Hi John, That project got pushed back several times last summer. I did get the big dynamo moved into place on its platform and pulleys lined up. It will get some priority this summer....Dave
Hello Dave, would it'd been advantageous to have mounted the fitting in the lathe and lightly skim the threads to clean them up? Absolutely love your work atmospheres - so vintage and so tidy. Thank you.
Good idea, I actually did that but lost the video clip....Dave
Certain top-secret WWII projects take a while to come out. Like about 80 yrs ago the govt. wanted a local machine shop owner to come to the big city and work for them. He wanted to stay in his own steam powered shop so the military stationed guards around his shop and cots for them. Years later we find out that he was building three triggering mechanisms for three A-bombs in a small town in Kansas.
My dad never liked to admit that he once worked in a line shaft machine shop because the guys would think that he was old. The shop owner during WWII spent his retirement running a little steam train in the park for the children.
I was starting to think it was somehow metric. Of course eleven threads per inch is eleven threads per inch. But then a thread guage wouldn't fit right. What would that be in metric? 1 thread per millimeter?
It was built in Erie, Pennsylvania in the US in about 1900 so probably not metric....Dave
Enjoyed your video
Nice to see you
Good evening David
Something peacful about all this.I like that lathe,but not as much as my old south bends.As my skills improve watching your videos,theres even hope for an old guy like me trying to find peace in a crazy world.Thank,s Dave
Found more southbend pieces including a 36 inch bed with nearly all the original scraping frosting!How did that happen?it was under my work bench for 20 years?I felt like a little kid and I'm 79 years old.It's drilled for the auto gearbox too!I love this stuff,You are a great inspiration to us all keep up the good work I can't wait for your next video
Happy New Year!
Nice work!
Thanks for sharing
Gday Dave, fantastic to see you back, the Atlas does a brilliant job mate, cheers
Thanks, the Atlas was a cheap lathe for the masses that anyone could own.....Dave
Hi Dave, How do you control that the cutter starts at the same point on each pass as it cuts the thread?
You engage the feed when a number (in this case with an odd numbered thread) comes around to the mark on the little dial at the right of the controls.....Dave
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Nice work. Those little Atlas Lathes are a good machine!
Always good to see you with a new vid, Dave! And I've said it before... the more talk, the better, because the best machine in your shop is... your brain! :-)
I just hate yackin, and listening to someone else's yacking, and commercials....Dave
@@davidrichards5594 That's because what those folks say isn't so interesting or useful! :-) It all depends on who and what.
Don't think of it as yackin, maybe just... thinking out loud. :-)
Always good seeing you, Dave. Send some of that warm Florida weather to Texas. We promise not to waste it.
Hi Terry, Good to hear from you again.....Dave
Always a pleasure seeing you Dave. @@davidrichards5594
Thanks for the video from sunny Florida, NE Ohio kinda soggy today and temps in the low 50's🤗😎🤗😎
Just love to see the work that you do and I more and more wish that I had a lathe and an mill here in my home. I have some equipment but not those bigger machines unfortunately. I have 3 phase power 400V 35 A so I could run quite big machines 🙂
any tips just picked up a 1948 craftman 101 (atlas) and its my fist lathe used a few in school but that was 20 years ago any pointers or were to start would be helpful 100 % rookie
I would recommend getting an old machine shop manual from ebay like "modern Machine Shop Practice " older than 1950. Learn from the book how to grind your own high speed steel bits, stay away from "indexable" replaceable bit tooling. Learn how to put the tool point on center. Feed from outside in, from right to left. and go for it....Dave
thank for the info ill definitely will look for the book I'm in Rochester NY i know Ur main shop is more central NY but love the steam shop video thank Ur a legend @@davidrichards5594
Would you please share with us where you found that manual? I've looked high and low for one but never found anything quite as detailed as yours. Thanks, and glad to see you here again!
Go here vintagemachinery.org/pubs/51/17437.pdf .....Dave
@@davidrichards5594 Thanks!
Great to see another video from you. I like to sit back and reminisce about my 43 years as a machinist in the steel industry. Look forward to the assembly of the Liley engine when you back to New York. I appreciate your descriptions of what you are doing. Hope all is well.
I really love your videos. It is awesome to see you using so many tools that I can make in my home shop. Thank you for finding the motivation to make just one more video. And this one you are using a tool holder that I have never seen to hold a round boring tool in a lamp post. I hope you have a minute to show how this thing works.
I'm on the hunt for an Atlas lathe. Perfect size for my shop. Great video Dave!
Nice to see you at work; I genuinely enjoy your projects. Welcome back.
This is a wonderful video Dave. You are a great teacher, and your patience with correct decision making shine through. Thanks for the lesson.
Hi David, good to see you again from Australia, we don't have a snow problem here in sunny Queensland, quite the opposite, things tend to rust up because of the sweat dripping off us and onto tools etc. This can be a bit of a problem if you don't oil up your micrometres and such, it can also affect job sizes as the parts have expanded in the heat of the day, anyway love your vidoes and sure would like to see how you winterise your shop/machines if that's possible.
Nice to see you enjoying that great Florida winter weather, Nice nut job also.
VERY VERY GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK, PROBABLY THREE MONTHS BEFORE YOU ARE BACK IN THE NEW YORK SHOP,.
It's been a while Dave good to see you back, have fun in Florida, can't wait to see you put that engine together.
Your looking well Dave , nice little project there . Wonderful things felt tip pen for Aide-memoire .
Thanks for the video! i have a similar lathe, i wonder how you know where you were on the compound.
Don't care, just fed it in a few more thousands each pass. I brought the cross slide back to the same mark. and keep checking the fit. You should try threading with yours....Dave
@davidrichards5594 oh yeah, thats what i meant the cross slide not compound oops. Mine has no graduations so im going to need a dial or something. Thanks for the reply I hope to see more videos of it
Looks exactly like my "old" little Craftsmen lathe.
Probably is, Sears sold them as Craftsman....Dave
thanks for the info Dave. I'm a 66 y.o. journeyman machinist. Still making a good living by myself in my own shop. "The Old Way" I enjoy your videos. Thank you sir.@@davidrichards5594
Until the parts get back to the other shop, it would make a great paper weight! Great work Dave!