The heater that uses the elbow would work better with (3) or (4) pennies under the pot... it would allow for a small amount of air current to the candle.... thermodynamically it would allow for the hot air to rise and the cold air to intake from the bottom.... just a suggestion.... Doc.
Instead i use a muffin pan, saucer, or cookie sheet as my base. For the top, you can substitute aluminum foil around a sheath of some kind that fits the terra Cotta pot base. But I like your idea better and rather than using tea lights! I made these crisco jars to go under my sink cabinets. In case of emergency, it'll keep my pipes from freezing. But that got me to wondering if i can use the crisco jars instead of tea light candles to heat the house. It's cheaper. I feel safer. I can use food stamps to buy crisco. It'll last longer and i can sleep thru the night. The tea lights only last 4 hrs, but they keep the inside, large open living, dining, kitchen with stairs warm, floor temp at 58 deg with an outside temp of 24 deg. I'll test to see how these candles do. We are at about 24 deg low tonight. I'm thankful for this! Don't have money for heat right now, but I do have jars, crisco and candles! So 2 big jobs fell thru. It's temporary. God's got this. I have faith.
Have you thought of putting a pot of water on top of the heater with the flat plate? The water would get hot and put humidity in the air, and like in humid climates, it would make the room feel warmer.
Nice, ill get a few terra cotta pots, and mason jars. Crisco from walmart, sizeable candles. And a carbon air catcher, so i dont kill myself. Great simple ideas.
These are good choices have you checked for temperature ? Say after day or so later room temperature level? Any suggestion or gastimate, and thanks for sharing your Experience
Quick question for the sciency people: Would this generate more or hotter heat if I put in 3 wicks (long skinny birthday candles I got from Walmart) in the Crisco, instead of 1 in the video with the metal elbow vent?
Only the slight amount of energy of the burning wicks themselves. Otherwise, it's the same total amount of fuel that burns in the wicks. There's no free lunch.
Have you tried just using the smaller tup of grease and inserting the candles? that would be less time. I have seen one video using the whole large tub and building a heater by inserting wicks and then stacking pots on top. I like the vent thing for the greenhouse. Let us know how that works. I have a 10x20 greenhouse that I want to heat this winter.
Indoor air quality is huge. It took us a hundred years to figure out there's no free lunch; you can't burn a fossil fuel without consequences. Indoor air quality is a big deal. Many people are doing this with candles too, not to mention heavy candle use for ambiance. All of these produce soot; subtle but real. The health issues are real too. Products of combustion are often invisible to the naked eye, but long term are not good.
May someone put a stove fan on a clay pot heaters.Some don't believe that them clay pot heaters makes the room warmer.But what if you put a stove fan on top of a clay pot heaters ?
If you had like 4 of them burning nonstop for like 18 hours in a tiny, tiny room with all the windows shut, the sure, perhaps. At the end of the day it's just a big ass candle, so as long as you're cool with burning a candle in a room, this is fine.
No, I'm sorry. This kind of stuff is for emergencies...maybe even in your car in case of a blizzard. Propane is far cheaper per hour than candles. I'm in an R/V and would love to toy with such ideas. Like burning veggie oil will cause an oily film all over the walls, and needs vented...just like the stove and oven. But wax costs far more to burn than a gas, it just doesn't seem like it if used properly. I can camp in my jeep for about 15 days on one single 1lb Propane tank, or about 5 days if used all day. I used a free camping stove and an old vent cap for a wood stove (I assume a tiny one lol). Thank you for the tip! I use a similar, cheaper method. I wouldn't suggest burning veggie oil in an enclosed space. Talk to your local restaurants of why... and also look at the kitchen, we have a vent literally for that reason. It's a grease trap, not smoke vent. Look at the bottom, see the trap? They're supposed to be washed, we all just don't care. Lol. But I feel you, I would toy around for short periods of time, but never as my main source. Imagine bit hesitant to give a thumbs up, but u did choose your video to learn how. I've also learned a few other sources are not good, unless in emergencies. Alcohol needs air, it's toxic..in my Jeep I use sterno for backup when I'm out of Propane, but ima smoker, so the windows always opened anyways. I suggest toying with propane... far cheaper. Lol the terracotta pot should work on top of Propane too.
Weird. I thought I replied. Mine is just an old Coleman Stove from like the 90's and a steel vent cap. Not a wise idea... but it works great! The warning on the box said not to use it as a heat source. Fair warning.
Propane is clean. No soot to catch on fire, no oil to clean off the walls. By all means toy around! But for anything serious....go back to Propane. Burning alcohol is toxic... etc. Propane is the only safe and clean fuel. Candles create soot, alcohol creates toxin, oil doesn't fully burn...it just evaporates in the air.
Why the hell you cover the hole? Its pointless. The second heater blows the hot air very well if you just do not cover the hole and radiates same good.
This is the traditional way of doing it. You cover the top forcing the heat to build and radiate from the bottom. Idk why. I've seen dozens done this way.
I believe the theory is rather than having the heat coming off the flame go straight out the hole, you're deflecting it and instead heating the pot, which will then release that heat slower and more evenly than simply shooting it up into the air. Whether this is actually more efficient or results in a longer lasting heat, I have no idea but I've seen it mentioned in many "how to" videos for how to build these.
@adamcoe my meaning is. A candel puts out the same heat no matter what you do. You can't put a bucket on it and make more heat. Doesn't work like that.
@@captainmarvel9610Is it not more to do with the storage of the heat in the ceramic like a storage heater... Rather than same heat dissipating into the air. I mean that's how storage heaters work
Refrigeration systems (and heat pumps) *move* energy from one place to another (from inside a refrigerator to outside, or from underground to inside a house) at "efficiencies" (coefficient of performance) over 4/1.
The heater that uses the elbow would work better with (3) or (4) pennies under the pot... it would allow for a small amount of air current to the candle.... thermodynamically it would allow for the hot air to rise and the cold air to intake from the bottom.... just a suggestion.... Doc.
Agreed, I work for a gas company and you do need make up air for proper intake and exhaust
Great tip - ty
Instead i use a muffin pan, saucer, or cookie sheet as my base. For the top, you can substitute aluminum foil around a sheath of some kind that fits the terra Cotta pot base. But I like your idea better and rather than using tea lights! I made these crisco jars to go under my sink cabinets. In case of emergency, it'll keep my pipes from freezing. But that got me to wondering if i can use the crisco jars instead of tea light candles to heat the house. It's cheaper. I feel safer. I can use food stamps to buy crisco. It'll last longer and i can sleep thru the night. The tea lights only last 4 hrs, but they keep the inside, large open living, dining, kitchen with stairs warm, floor temp at 58 deg with an outside temp of 24 deg. I'll test to see how these candles do. We are at about 24 deg low tonight. I'm thankful for this! Don't have money for heat right now, but I do have jars, crisco and candles! So 2 big jobs fell thru. It's temporary. God's got this. I have faith.
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I would love to see a picture of this. I tried it with a small candle in a jar and only the inside small pot got hot. The outside pot never did.
God bless you. I wish you success in your life.
TYVM. I have been looking for a non-electric way to heat my greenhouse
Have you thought of putting a pot of water on top of the heater with the flat plate? The water would get hot and put humidity in the air, and like in humid climates, it would make the room feel warmer.
that could work. i might try it one of these days
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Thank you! Very helpful-
Very useful information!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
Nice, ill get a few terra cotta pots, and mason jars. Crisco from walmart, sizeable candles. And a carbon air catcher, so i dont kill myself. Great simple ideas.
Don't waste your time, it won't work
I love this video - thank you! I took your suggestion on the elbow and 😃😃😃
These are good choices have you checked for temperature ? Say after day or so later room temperature level? Any suggestion or gastimate, and thanks for sharing your Experience
These things don't work
That was great ideas.
Quick question for the sciency people: Would this generate more or hotter heat if I put in 3 wicks (long skinny birthday candles I got from Walmart) in the Crisco, instead of 1 in the video with the metal elbow vent?
Yes, absolutely!!
Only the slight amount of energy of the burning wicks themselves. Otherwise, it's the same total amount of fuel that burns in the wicks. There's no free lunch.
Is there a reason why you don't scoop Crisco into the actual jar then microwave it til liquid ... Save faffing with jug?
Have you tested if it produces carbon monoxide
It produces as much as a candle does 😂. Crisco candles are non-smoke.
How do you get the candle stick in the middle after it’s hardened? Or did you put it in before it went in the fridge?
The shortening is soft even when it’s harden…if it’s gets too hard in the fridge I would leave it in room temperature before adding the candle
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How long does the heat last on both?
Have you tried just using the smaller tup of grease and inserting the candles? that would be less time. I have seen one video using the whole large tub and building a heater by inserting wicks and then stacking pots on top. I like the vent thing for the greenhouse. Let us know how that works. I have a 10x20 greenhouse that I want to heat this winter.
I personally don't trust the tub with hot grease and a candle. How do we know that won't melt the plastic tub?
You are NOT going to heat a greenhouse with candles
Interesting
Indoor air quality is huge. It took us a hundred years to figure out there's no free lunch; you can't burn a fossil fuel without consequences. Indoor air quality is a big deal. Many people are doing this with candles too, not to mention heavy candle use for ambiance. All of these produce soot; subtle but real. The health issues are real too. Products of combustion are often invisible to the naked eye, but long term are not good.
May someone put a stove fan on a clay pot heaters.Some don't believe that them clay pot heaters makes the room warmer.But what if you put a stove fan on top of a clay pot heaters ?
I tried this with just the terra-cotta pots and crisco candles. It only warmed the greenhouse 2°.
What are the dimensions if your greenhouse ?
@@GUSGUS1331 10x12x 8’ tall
Use a double wall elbow, will not be so hot.
Carbon monoxide would be my concern. There are dozens of these little heaters on YT but I'm skeptical of their safety.
Alcohol lamp instead...
I thought the same but is it any worse than having multiple candles burning/?
Highly unlikely to produce enough CO let alone CO2
If you had like 4 of them burning nonstop for like 18 hours in a tiny, tiny room with all the windows shut, the sure, perhaps. At the end of the day it's just a big ass candle, so as long as you're cool with burning a candle in a room, this is fine.
The BTU of the candle is the same even if lit without any pots. The pots can't magnify energy output. Why do these "heaters" keep getting new videos?
No, I'm sorry. This kind of stuff is for emergencies...maybe even in your car in case of a blizzard.
Propane is far cheaper per hour than candles. I'm in an R/V and would love to toy with such ideas. Like burning veggie oil will cause an oily film all over the walls, and needs vented...just like the stove and oven. But wax costs far more to burn than a gas, it just doesn't seem like it if used properly. I can camp in my jeep for about 15 days on one single 1lb Propane tank, or about 5 days if used all day. I used a free camping stove and an old vent cap for a wood stove (I assume a tiny one lol).
Thank you for the tip! I use a similar, cheaper method. I wouldn't suggest burning veggie oil in an enclosed space. Talk to your local restaurants of why... and also look at the kitchen, we have a vent literally for that reason. It's a grease trap, not smoke vent. Look at the bottom, see the trap? They're supposed to be washed, we all just don't care. Lol. But I feel you, I would toy around for short periods of time, but never as my main source. Imagine bit hesitant to give a thumbs up, but u did choose your video to learn how.
I've also learned a few other sources are not good, unless in emergencies. Alcohol needs air, it's toxic..in my Jeep I use sterno for backup when I'm out of Propane, but ima smoker, so the windows always opened anyways.
I suggest toying with propane... far cheaper. Lol the terracotta pot should work on top of Propane too.
I'm * -imagine.
Hi, thanks for the tip 😃
Would love to see a picture of your setup ... or a pot over propane. Nothing has worked for me.
Weird. I thought I replied.
Mine is just an old Coleman Stove from like the 90's and a steel vent cap. Not a wise idea... but it works great!
The warning on the box said not to use it as a heat source. Fair warning.
Propane is clean. No soot to catch on fire, no oil to clean off the walls.
By all means toy around! But for anything serious....go back to Propane. Burning alcohol is toxic... etc. Propane is the only safe and clean fuel. Candles create soot, alcohol creates toxin, oil doesn't fully burn...it just evaporates in the air.
You CAN'T fool Mother Nature..you will never get more heat out of one candle than what one candle will put out.
No one is saying he is, he's simply controlling the manner in which the heat is distributed.
THE ELBOW HEATER WOULD WORK BETTER WITH AIR....
The law of thermodynamics… means you can’t increase the candle BTU with either method
You will freeze
@@ArnoldDavis-b9o lol no I won’t
Rub the terra-cotta pots with graphite. Itll get a lot hotter.
And where do you get graphite?
@@kaaylaskorner Graphite is just carbon, so you can use charcoal
You know, the candle radiates the exact same amount of heat with or without the flowerpots. Of course you do. That’s like 5th grade science.
In thermodynamics Q=mc(delta)T. The only thing that changes is the amount of fuel and how fast you burn it. Never understand these builds.
Does the heating of the larger object create more radiant heat, as opposed to the heat from the single candle flame heating the room ?
Why the hell you cover the hole? Its pointless. The second heater blows the hot air very well if you just do not cover the hole and radiates same good.
I think so it could theoretically swirl around and intensify in heat, because there is an opening between the bricks and plate
This is the traditional way of doing it. You cover the top forcing the heat to build and radiate from the bottom. Idk why. I've seen dozens done this way.
I thought it was covered to catch soot from the candles
Agreed!
I believe the theory is rather than having the heat coming off the flame go straight out the hole, you're deflecting it and instead heating the pot, which will then release that heat slower and more evenly than simply shooting it up into the air. Whether this is actually more efficient or results in a longer lasting heat, I have no idea but I've seen it mentioned in many "how to" videos for how to build these.
If you make another video, please do not include the music. It's awful, and it's distracting and competes with your narrative.
1st law is there is no extra heat. You can't create engery.
When did he claim he was creating energy?
@adamcoe my meaning is. A candel puts out the same heat no matter what you do. You can't put a bucket on it and make more heat. Doesn't work like that.
@@captainmarvel9610Is it not more to do with the storage of the heat in the ceramic like a storage heater... Rather than same heat dissipating into the air. I mean that's how storage heaters work
Waste of time and money
Τhrow it all in the trash. Buy a cheap inverter air conditioner. It is the most economical heating device, it spends one watt and gives you 4.5 watts.
It is impossible to produce energy at 1-1. Or 1 - 4 like you claim.
Refrigeration systems (and heat pumps) *move* energy from one place to another (from inside a refrigerator to outside, or from underground to inside a house) at "efficiencies" (coefficient of performance) over 4/1.