Is Hurry Preventing You From Being Present this Holiday Season? | John Mark Comer & John Ortberg
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Busy schedules & packed to-do lists. Is it even possible to SLOW DOWN this Christmas? John Mark Comer, Director of @practicingtheway helps us see how hurry can prevent you from being present this Christmas.
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“My mind is stimulated but my heart is calm”, that is what I receive with these daily videos. It may be John Marks gift but it’s also your gift John. ❤
Well said by John Mark- the incredible transformation of a mother from when her children are young compared to when they are grown! I pray my kids will see this transformation in me!
This was so deeply satisfying to hear. As a woman age 71 who has been navigating through that gap John Mark speaks about, both of you have helped me focus my advent journey for this season. When I got into the boat to navigate the waters of “ spiritual realism” I had no idea how much backlash I’d encounter. The longer I live, I see there is nowhere to hide from the truth of our brokenness. I want to keep going til I get to the other side. Look forward to your new book , John O
In my late 70’s. Can relate.
"Hurry is such an engine for the Anti-Fruits of the Spirit." Feeling that you need to Hurry is such an emotional drain.
The "shame gap" as a "shadow" is well defined by John Mark.
Yes. Every day I stand outside my house for five minutes and look at the tree in my backyard and just be with Jesus. It is difficult to take five minutes and difficult to focus, as so much is going on in the family right now. But I need it. I try to take slivers of time to focus, and it helps at work, driving, whenever. Love is PATIENT. I need so much help from Jesus with that! 😀😀😀
When I saw how “long” this conversation was going to be, my thought was I don’t have time for this! By the end I was wishing it wouldn’t end. I don’t have the words to say how much I need this today. Such honesty and wisdom. Thank you. Love is patient ❤
LOVE the plea to SLOW DOWN & eliminate hurry. Hurry incompatible with love. YES!
You two!! Pure magic. You dug up the gems 💎 with the help of the Holy Spirit.
Idea to offset the BS. Ask “What cracks you open about God? Leaves your knees limp, makes you weep?” And follow it with NO multi set punch list. Just let it be. There could be much to munch on for a bunch of us. ❤
Phenomenal talk about honesty.
I think I learned many things from this conversation, but what strikes me the most is the authenticity that you gentlemen project and that’s what makes all the difference.
Wow. This is a keeper. Very real and very prevalent for my life today. God inspired words today for me personally. Thank John and John Mark for this.
This conversation is so needed …. I wrote a previous response, but scrapped it because it sounded so stuffy. Spiritual Realism…. This whole conversation gives me hope and joy. To hear you two discuss this gap and open up that vulnerable place is so refreshing. I want to share this with so many people! Some who stand on stages and some who sit on the back pew, all of us have gaps because we are still “becoming.” ❤
Truly there is often a gap between what we hear from the pulpit and what the grittiness of our real lives looks like. Years ago I went to a church where the pastor practiced spiritual realism. “God wants us to surrender all the parts of our lives to him,” he said as he placed his money, a picture of his family, and a roll of toilet paper (representing the nasty parts of our lives) at the foot of a wooden cross. That was 20+ years ago. The congregation had a fit. He gave lots of sermons like that and he was voted out soon after. My husband and I are still in contact with him. He is probably the best pastor we’ve ever had. Life is messy, painful, lovely, and joyful. Jesus know that. I am in my late 70’s and I often yearn for that gap in our evangelical world to be narrowed.
As a teen, I was blessed to have the pastor as our Sunday school teacher. The lesson most remembered to this day is to first read through the Bible, then read the Bible through you. When I listen to the exchanges in this series, I am always re-entered with that instruction. It makes the more present in me. As I try and live day to day, though there is no change in the word of God, my life will change but the word of God contains every morsel of clarity, as I read it through me. Tell God how awesome are your works. Psalm 66
Wow the intro alone is so relieving to hear everyone has that same human experience and we are not alone!
Spiritual Realism. Bam! As a person who was deeply hurt in the church as a child I struggle to move forward as an adult. Thank you.
Thank you for this, Dr. Ortberg and Pastor John Mark. I've been walking with Jesus for a while, but just in the last few years discovered you both, along with Dallas Willard and others. You have genuinely helped me follow, know, and love Jesus more, and be a better pastor. Thank you again and Merry Christmas!
Thanks for sharing!
Value the depth of this conversation & how gentle these men talk of the reality of each of our personal brokeness
So good. The friendship between John & John Mark is refreshing and inviting. How we need real, honest, and loving interaction modeled for us. So many great moments; will listen again with paper and pen! TY!
Also, eagerly waiting for the conversation on Christian marriage.
Peace on earth. ❤
Love this talk… Very much a message of depth and weight! I'm completely hooked!
So glad! We are grateful for you listening - thank you for joining us Bucky
good morning ☀️ Peace, overcome with peace, thank you, John and John Mark. seeking those moments of truly being still in the present and letting go of time…hurry is definitely a sin. I am fully aware that I am not kind in my hurry. 🙏🏻💕🍃
How do we (I) have spiritual realism? 🤔
1. Recognize that each person including preachers and teachers are on their own spiritual journey and stage in maturity
2. Understand each unique person is drawn to others at different stages for unique reasons ordained by God to work through
3. Accept the call to preach the gospel wasn't given with a caveat of--"if you're good at it" "if its real enough" "if it leaves them hopefully or discouraged or excited or introspective" etc.
Since I'm not seeing in the comments, the book he mentions is Living in the Focus by Arthur Boers and Eugene Peterson.
Such a great conversation! Really inspiring and motivating re: slowing down to be present during Advent. Love the dynamic between the two of you and your humility! I felt calm and at peace listening to you both. Also very encouraged! Bless you!!! 🙏
Mr. Ortberg, I love your work and have read many of your books also I have just finished reading Mr. Comer's "Ruthless illumination of Hurry" (read in one sitting) and found it very satisfying. Merry Christmas to you both and to your families.
“Following Jesus will bring more pain into your life” it’s careless statements like this that encourage many to seek other religions.
You're right, Louie, we should always think before we speak! - Rob
I so appreciate John Mark Comer - his sensitive heart and wise insights. Not sure why he hangs out with Ortberg so much though. He's sketchy.
Arthur Bore- What was the book called?