Death and Time in the Work of Gilles Deleuze with Ben Decarie

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2024

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  • @joeyt5427
    @joeyt5427 9 днів тому +1

    No joke, this is one of the most profound UA-cam videos I’ve ever seen.

  • @lbjvg
    @lbjvg Місяць тому +12

    Fantastic discussion, especially the exposition of the three syntheses of time, linking Kant, Hume, Bergson, Proust and Nietzsche in a memorable and succinct way.

  • @johnstewart7025
    @johnstewart7025 Місяць тому +8

    According to Alcoholics Anonymous, resentment, perhaps not exactly ressentement, kills more alcoholics than anything else. The prescribed treatment is acceptance -- accepting everything that happens to you or is done to you. You can try to avoid mishaps and cruelty, but some of it is bound to get ya.
    Eternal recurrence seems to be true. Each of us is basically having the same experience, give or take a homicide or so.

  • @mathieucharbonneau2710
    @mathieucharbonneau2710 Місяць тому +3

    Je reconnais un Québécois quand j’en entends un! ;) merci Ben pour ton partage d’idées.

  • @peternyc
    @peternyc Місяць тому +5

    Is there such a thing as experience that isn't lived?

    • @johnkan5619
      @johnkan5619 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, experience encoded in your DNA

    • @mathieucharbonneau2710
      @mathieucharbonneau2710 Місяць тому +4

      Yes, a life consumed by ressentiment is composed of mere reactions to what is experienced- that is, everything perceived as antagonistic and to be negated. In short, the person who sees the world as ‘condemnable’ and to be justly perfected by them, experiences a « life » that is never truly lived by them, but determined by moralizing affects and their effects.

    • @michaelcarrig627
      @michaelcarrig627 Місяць тому +5

      If you are asking "can that which is inorganic experience?" The way that time bares on the inorganic becomes a lot clearer in "A Thousand Plateaus". In D&R, habit/contraction/bare repetition refer to "cases" that we would associate with organic life. Each synthesis, be it habit and contraction, memory and reminiscence (pure past), or the empty form of time as a "caesura"--break in poetic meter--or event play out through organic life. Mathieu's answer excellently describes if organic life, in this case a subject, can live without experiencing. But there is also the other side that Ben mentions, which is can what we understand as purely inorganic contemplate? In ATP, D&G introduce the concept of milieus and rhythm. A milieu has an inside and outside, or a border of internality composed of integral elements and externality composed of material. A milieu can be a beehive, a human body, a social institution, and so on. A milieu maintains a temporary stability between chaos and order that is affected by rhythm. And to be clear, rhythm should not be thought of as meter (1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2-3-4), but rather as vibratory and melodic (there is no predetermined rhythm of a melody) with many different rhythmic potentials. I will admit this is getting away from your original question a bit. But when the organic and inorganic form a milieu, it is difficult to strictly delimit them as a form. Similarly, when repetition is replaced by rhythm, the form in which a process that is part of the milieu isn't representable (uniformly) as experience. Instead of the organic or inorganic experience a milieu is more or less territorialized and determined by external order. This comes back to Mathieu's point about a life of ressentiment. Within a milieu that has been territorialized to the point of uniformity, is it possible to experience? Does one experience the factory line? But also does, as Ben spoke about, a rock formation contemplate their deformation and 'fluxural folding' (a geological term)? According to D&G this would come down to how territorialized the milieu is. If that deformation is ordered to extract certain material, then no. But if it is left to the inconsistent rhythms of nature (here D&G borrow a concept from Jakob von Uexkull, who might be useful for your question), then possibly.
      I think it is worth noting that this sort of thinking is what draws the criticism of Zizek, Badiou, and, most topically, Meillassoux. Meillassoux argues that Deleuze, in his attempt to go beyond the subject, stretches the subject to the size of the world. Deleuze (and Guattari's) inorganic vitalism transforms even that which is non-subjective into a subject. In After Finitude, Meillassoux argues a totally different procedure for understanding the the inorganic through his concepts of the arche-fact and hyperchaos. I think the book is also worth reading, given your question. Though I do not have the space or time to do it justice...though I haven't really done Deleuze justice, either.

    • @robertloader9826
      @robertloader9826 Місяць тому

      @@johnkan5619that’s lived.

  • @AshleyGraetz
    @AshleyGraetz Місяць тому

    Xenon absorbs specific wavelengths of light, indicating its presence. So if time is the measurement of light then what is the measurement of the Dark?