Fantastic video Ryan - loved the break down & thoroughness ! ( especially the timecode contents :) - Would love to see more Canon R5 videos + tips & tricks - contemplating one for commercial shoots + using an atomos etc! Keep up the great work + more R5 videos :) cheers
Love this video. Thanks! I have a question about 2:45 - is there a specific reason why the externally recorded image has a bit more baked in contrast than the internal, when both are shooting in the same mode/gamut? I feel like I've noticed this a bit with my Panasonic S1 and VLog; but haven't been sure why
That's something I have noticed too , but have yet to figure it out. It's never bothered me too much so I haven't spent much time looking into it. It's not a great answer, but it's what I have. 🤷♂️
Thanks for the video! So, when you say no overheating issues and you've filmed "several minute clips and a hour long interview" did you shoot all of it in 4K HQ or 8K? And how back to back those several minute clips were filmed? Cheers, mate!
I've been mostly filming in 4K HQ. Given how alike the 4K HQ and 8K recordings are, I don't see much need to film in 8K very often. The several minute clips were all pretty close together. At this point, I have zero concerns about overheating on the R5. I have intentionally overheated it once in 8K. It took 20 minutes and it was a 200+GB recording. I'd be more worried about having a computer that can handle that kind of recording!
@@rynfilms Yeah I shot an entire promo for a hospital to the Atomos Ninja V in 4k 60fps with Overheat Control on and it only recorded at 30fps which totally shocked me - thankfully it was usable but a HUGE issue if you aren't aware. Basically if you use an external recorder with the R5 then NEVER use Overheat Control.
Nice video, so thanks! Also, it was really, really good of you to include that 4k movie crop part. As I wildlife shooter, that is where I live on my r5 and that video mode will NEVER overheat, even in the middle of summer. I have been confused on what kind of quality it yields compared to the other video modes and you have answered that to my full satisfaction. So good on you!
great video! Do you advise me to use the monitor atomos ninja v to record short documentaries? I am also thinking of buying sigma art lenses (24-70, 85) because RF's are very expensive, would they be compatible with the R5?
The monitors are great for.. well.. monitoring. I think the recording is better internally on the R5, but it's still great to have the larger screen. The Sigma Art lenses are fantastic! I'd also recommend getting the Canon ND adaptor for any EF mount lenses, bhpho.to/2MhJ6LO
Some people are making a massive deal about the overheating, and it might be a legitimate concern for some. For most users, I'm guessing it will never be an issue. Glad you're enjoying the camera!
A useful video and well presented, thank you. I am having my R5 delivered next week. I shoot wildlife video as a hobby and am hoping that when I see a distant animal/bird, I can record in 8K, then crop/zoom in post to give 4K and effectively get twice the resolution/magnification, but after seeing this video, I am thinking that might not be the case
You'll still have the ability to do what you're thinking about doing. I find myself filming mostly in 4K HQ because it is basically 8K in a much smaller wrapper. With 4K HQ you are still able to punch in after the fact and still get a crisp image. 👍
I’m confused because at 2:44 the right image is clear more contrasty. Then 2 sec later, when you zoom in: the left image is clearly more contrasty. Is this an editing mistake? It seems to be switched when you zoom in. Also 12fps to your ninja is crazy. How did you find out it was 12?
Maybe it's just the UA-cam compression that causing the contrast difference. Hard to say. As for 12fps, that was more of a guess judging by the motion lag. Whatever it is recording at, it's not right.
I haven't noticed any issues nor do I feel like it drains fast. I can't say I was specifically paying close attention to battery life, but I feel like it's on par with the EOS R or 5D4.
There is an issue with showing us all 8k and that is we cannot see 8k on youtube can we? but interesting to try and see the differences, thx for the time and effort producing the video, it takes a lot of time producing video, I know and I still get it terribly wrong on occasion.
I know one of these days I'm going to say something completely wrong and not catch it. 😱 Agree with the 8K on youtube, but I can honestly say I don't notice much difference between the 4K HQ and 8K while editing. It's going to be one of those features that's nice to have but rarely used.
Great review, man! I’m considering selling my 1DXII to fund an upgrade to the R5, so it’s helpful to see your experiences with it. Question - what lenses did you use for this video, and do you have a recommendation on which EF adapter to get? Thanks again - great vid!
Hey Brian, long time! I was using either the 16-35 or 24-70 lenses, both f/2.8 and EF versions. I've been using the ND adapter and recently broke down and bought the clear insert for darker shots. I love the Canon ND adapter, having the filter behind the lens is great!
@@rynfilms Awesome - thanks! Yeah, I have a number of EF lenses, so was thinking about the ND adapter - it just seems like such a good solution. Stinks they make you pay for a clear filter also, but what are you gonna do? Do the drop-in filters still keep it weather-sealed?
@@BrianSellers There is a small rubber seal on the adaptor where the filters connect. I haven't had them out in any harsh weather to tell you for sure. I certainly would not be changing filters in the rain or wind. 🤷♂️
Need your honest advice. My wife shoots an even amount of videos and Photos for our travels and I'm in between purchasing either the Sony A7Siii or the Canon EOS R5. I'm looking for the perfect HYBRID camera that can shoot really detailed photos as well as a crisp video camera that is especially good in low light. What would you suggest between the two? Thanks for your awesome reviews!
Thank you! I'm absolutely partial to Canon. I tried many Sony cameras over the course of a year and we just didn't get along. I haven't tried the A7S3 yet, so I can't say for sure. I have friends that absolutely love that camera. If she is setup with good Canon lenses, perhaps stick with Canon. Same if she currently shoots Sony. I don't think you'll go wrong with either one. It's all in what you're (or your wife) is familiar with.
An incredibly quick and highly unscientific test would suggest that there is no difference in rolling shutter between full frame and movie crop. That is something I didn't even think if testing for this video. 🤷♂️ I have to say the rolling shutter doesn't seem all that bad compared to other cameras I've used in the past.
@@rynfilms The read out from that sensor is 15,5 ms and C500 II has 15,8ms so it should be pretty good. Red it on www.cined.com/canon-eos-r5-lab-test-to-film-in-raw-or-not/
I bought the R5 on release, but canceled after reading all the overheating issues. Albeit updates have seemed to help a lot, so now im going for the R6 which is all I really need.
@@rynfilms True, True, 4k 120p is cool and can be downsized and all. But with 1080 120p I don't need to worry about overheating. So I can shoot All I want in 4k HQ 30p and use 1080p for slow-mo shots. :)
And now it begins. People hated on 6D2, 200D, 250D, M50, EOS R, EOS RP and ofc R5.. but like it ALWAYS happens, tables are turning around. It's a 3rd positive video in a last few days I accidentally came across from someone who actually used the camera in the real world. My dream is EOS R with same or better stills capabilities and absolute zero video features for half the price or less. If that camera ever comes out, it's gonna be the most sold camera ever. Crossed my fingers for 5Dsr alternative.
Canon may not always have the latest and greatest tech in their cameras, but they sure know how to make a user friendly camera that just works. For me, the R5 is the best of both worlds. I shoot an equal amount of photo and video. And a lot of times I'm on the go. It's so nice not to have to cary 2 different setups for each. It would be nice if the made a pro body for the photo only market. I'm sure it would do well.
Canon R5 defaults to 1/1 full power flashes consistently when TTL and HSS used at any shutter speed faster than 1/250 sec. In addition, Bracketing of any kind is not successful-be it flash bracketing or AEB, as the Z cameras are able to do with flash. Gear tested: Canon R5 Flashpoint PRO2 MK2 Trigger Flashpoint AD1200 PRO Flashpoint AD600 PRO TTL Flashpoint AD200. All gear on latest firmware. Submitted for user testing,consensus,and hopeful reporting to the manufacturers.
Very informative review. I have had the R5 since one day before the release date and still learned something new. Thank you so much and you did a great job
@@rynfilms No, I mean that's what it should mainly be used for, this isn't a pro grade RED/Arri yet people try to use it as one then complain it overheats in 8K.
@@rynfilms It’s a stills camera that shoots some video. These cameras are designed for photographers that want to shoot “some video” not for full time cinematographers unless they are used as B cams.
Fantastic video Ryan - loved the break down & thoroughness ! ( especially the timecode contents :) - Would love to see more Canon R5 videos + tips & tricks - contemplating one for commercial shoots + using an atomos etc!
Keep up the great work + more R5 videos :)
cheers
Thank you! I'll be working on more R5 content soon. 😎
This was a super helpful review! Really liked the comparisons between all the different modes.
Glad it was helpful!
Such a great review! Everything I wanted to knew basically, and more!
Awesome! Happy to help. 👍
Love this video. Thanks! I have a question about 2:45 - is there a specific reason why the externally recorded image has a bit more baked in contrast than the internal, when both are shooting in the same mode/gamut? I feel like I've noticed this a bit with my Panasonic S1 and VLog; but haven't been sure why
That's something I have noticed too , but have yet to figure it out. It's never bothered me too much so I haven't spent much time looking into it. It's not a great answer, but it's what I have. 🤷♂️
Super detail review. Thank for let us know about the crop mode, i’m ready for my r5
Crop mode is AWESOME! I was so surprised that it's so clear.
Good video. Thanks for sharing. Very detailed, keep it up!
Thank you Tony! I put a lot of work into this one for sure. 👍
Thanks for the video! So, when you say no overheating issues and you've filmed "several minute clips and a hour long interview" did you shoot all of it in 4K HQ or 8K? And how back to back those several minute clips were filmed? Cheers, mate!
I've been mostly filming in 4K HQ. Given how alike the 4K HQ and 8K recordings are, I don't see much need to film in 8K very often. The several minute clips were all pretty close together. At this point, I have zero concerns about overheating on the R5.
I have intentionally overheated it once in 8K. It took 20 minutes and it was a 200+GB recording. I'd be more worried about having a computer that can handle that kind of recording!
Great job with the video and thank you for putting this all together.
You're welcome Al! Hope you liked it. 👍
Regarding the External Recorder, you have to turn the Heat Management off to get 4K HQ externally. Otherwise, it will output in 4k non HQ
Huh, cool. I'll try that. Maybe that'll fix my external lag issue too.
@@rynfilms Yeah I shot an entire promo for a hospital to the Atomos Ninja V in 4k 60fps with Overheat Control on and it only recorded at 30fps which totally shocked me - thankfully it was usable but a HUGE issue if you aren't aware. Basically if you use an external recorder with the R5 then NEVER use Overheat Control.
Nice video, so thanks! Also, it was really, really good of you to include that 4k movie crop part. As I wildlife shooter, that is where I live on my r5 and that video mode will NEVER overheat, even in the middle of summer. I have been confused on what kind of quality it yields compared to the other video modes and you have answered that to my full satisfaction. So good on you!
awesome Anthony! I knew I couldn't be the only person who had that question. 👍
Happy to help.
Great video and comparison of the different video preferences!
Thanks! It took a while, but worth it. 👍
great video! Do you advise me to use the monitor atomos ninja v to record short documentaries? I am also thinking of buying sigma art lenses (24-70, 85) because RF's are very expensive, would they be compatible with the R5?
The monitors are great for.. well.. monitoring. I think the recording is better internally on the R5, but it's still great to have the larger screen. The Sigma Art lenses are fantastic! I'd also recommend getting the Canon ND adaptor for any EF mount lenses, bhpho.to/2MhJ6LO
@@rynfilms thank you mate!
Great info! Just got mine today. What mode did you film your Hour long interview in?
I believe it was in 4K HQ IPB.
@@rynfilms thanks!
You just shared nearly all my thoughts on the camera. Especially the overheating which has not been a problem for me... at all!
Some people are making a massive deal about the overheating, and it might be a legitimate concern for some. For most users, I'm guessing it will never be an issue. Glad you're enjoying the camera!
A useful video and well presented, thank you. I am having my R5 delivered next week. I shoot wildlife video as a hobby and am hoping that when I see a distant animal/bird, I can record in 8K, then crop/zoom in post to give 4K and effectively get twice the resolution/magnification, but after seeing this video, I am thinking that might not be the case
You'll still have the ability to do what you're thinking about doing. I find myself filming mostly in 4K HQ because it is basically 8K in a much smaller wrapper. With 4K HQ you are still able to punch in after the fact and still get a crisp image. 👍
I’m confused because at 2:44 the right image is clear more contrasty. Then 2 sec later, when you zoom in: the left image is clearly more contrasty. Is this an editing mistake? It seems to be switched when you zoom in.
Also 12fps to your ninja is crazy. How did you find out it was 12?
Maybe it's just the UA-cam compression that causing the contrast difference. Hard to say.
As for 12fps, that was more of a guess judging by the motion lag. Whatever it is recording at, it's not right.
Fantastic and thorough review
Thanks! Hope it helps. 👍
How is the battery life on the R5? I have heard it drains very fast and there are issues as it dips under 50% charge. Thanks
I haven't noticed any issues nor do I feel like it drains fast. I can't say I was specifically paying close attention to battery life, but I feel like it's on par with the EOS R or 5D4.
There is an issue with showing us all 8k and that is we cannot see 8k on youtube can we? but interesting to try and see the differences, thx for the time and effort producing the video, it takes a lot of time producing video, I know and I still get it terribly wrong on occasion.
I know one of these days I'm going to say something completely wrong and not catch it. 😱
Agree with the 8K on youtube, but I can honestly say I don't notice much difference between the 4K HQ and 8K while editing. It's going to be one of those features that's nice to have but rarely used.
Great review, man! I’m considering selling my 1DXII to fund an upgrade to the R5, so it’s helpful to see your experiences with it. Question - what lenses did you use for this video, and do you have a recommendation on which EF adapter to get? Thanks again - great vid!
Hey Brian, long time!
I was using either the 16-35 or 24-70 lenses, both f/2.8 and EF versions.
I've been using the ND adapter and recently broke down and bought the clear insert for darker shots. I love the Canon ND adapter, having the filter behind the lens is great!
@@rynfilms Awesome - thanks! Yeah, I have a number of EF lenses, so was thinking about the ND adapter - it just seems like such a good solution. Stinks they make you pay for a clear filter also, but what are you gonna do? Do the drop-in filters still keep it weather-sealed?
@@BrianSellers There is a small rubber seal on the adaptor where the filters connect. I haven't had them out in any harsh weather to tell you for sure. I certainly would not be changing filters in the rain or wind. 🤷♂️
Good to see someone else a bit more balanced in the their assessment of this as hybrid camera. Its a fantastic machine.
Yes, yes it is. After having a few cinema cameras, I really missed having it all in one.
Mine just got here this week. Looks like I’ll switch to 4K HQ IPB instead of ALL-I. I appreciate your comparisons, saves me a lot of experimentation.
It'll save you a bunch of hard drive space as well! 👍
What I do is set a custom video (C1) as 60fps movie crop, and C2 as 24fps 4KHQ so that I can get the most detail in either frame rate pretty quickly.
4K30 HQ is great
45MP is great
IBIS is great
Fast shooting 12-20 frame per second .
Overall it's a pretty great camera. None of my lenses support 12fps, but that's ok with me. 👍
Need your honest advice. My wife shoots an even amount of videos and Photos for our travels and I'm in between purchasing either the Sony A7Siii or the Canon EOS R5. I'm looking for the perfect HYBRID camera that can shoot really detailed photos as well as a crisp video camera that is especially good in low light. What would you suggest between the two? Thanks for your awesome reviews!
Thank you!
I'm absolutely partial to Canon. I tried many Sony cameras over the course of a year and we just didn't get along. I haven't tried the A7S3 yet, so I can't say for sure. I have friends that absolutely love that camera. If she is setup with good Canon lenses, perhaps stick with Canon. Same if she currently shoots Sony. I don't think you'll go wrong with either one. It's all in what you're (or your wife) is familiar with.
@@rynfilms Thanks for the intellect! Amazing job! Cheers!
Does rolling shutter performance change when in "movie crop" mode?
I would also like to know this.
An incredibly quick and highly unscientific test would suggest that there is no difference in rolling shutter between full frame and movie crop. That is something I didn't even think if testing for this video. 🤷♂️
I have to say the rolling shutter doesn't seem all that bad compared to other cameras I've used in the past.
@@rynfilms The read out from that sensor is 15,5 ms and C500 II has 15,8ms so it should be pretty good. Red it on www.cined.com/canon-eos-r5-lab-test-to-film-in-raw-or-not/
I bought the R5 on release, but canceled after reading all the overheating issues. Albeit updates have seemed to help a lot, so now im going for the R6 which is all I really need.
The R6 is pretty great too. Unless you're really into video or want to do massive photo prints, the R6 is plenty. 👍
I was the total opposite I ordered the R6 twice and canceled it and then ended up with the R5. It’s honestly amazing for something so small.
Heard the H.265 files are impossible to edit, I wonder when technology will catch up to not need proxies, etc.
I will not disagree with that. The playback is terrible.
@@rynfilms @Grinicide try with the new macs with M1 chip, incredible smooth playback to edit. Cant believe it
I’ve seen some like cooling mods for the R5 which prolly void ur warranty but mostly get rid of the overheating which is kinda cool
Edit: fixed a typo
Sounds neat. I haven't had any overheating issues so I'll keep mine as is for now.
@@rynfilms I think if you'll have 2 of them, you should be covered for life 8)
HD 120 is enough for me, I hope the Canon r5 would add this soon.
It's easy enough to downsize later. 🤷♂️
@@rynfilms True, True, 4k 120p is cool and can be downsized and all. But with 1080 120p I don't need to worry about overheating. So I can shoot All I want in 4k HQ 30p and use 1080p for slow-mo shots. :)
It’s there now with firmware 1.3 😉
This is the best R5 video I’ve ever seen! Absolutely perfect 👏👏
Wow, thank you! I appreciate that! 👊
@@rynfilms You’re welcome sir! ✌️
Ahahah???🤣👐🏼 i was expecting bad Things! I was very excited watching this video! Reason! Cause i just bought an R5, still waiting for it
Oh man, you're going to love it! It's such a great camera. 👍
the best r5 video !
Thank you Karynn!! 🥳
And now it begins. People hated on 6D2, 200D, 250D, M50, EOS R, EOS RP and ofc R5.. but like it ALWAYS happens, tables are turning around. It's a 3rd positive video in a last few days I accidentally came across from someone who actually used the camera in the real world.
My dream is EOS R with same or better stills capabilities and absolute zero video features for half the price or less. If that camera ever comes out, it's gonna be the most sold camera ever. Crossed my fingers for 5Dsr alternative.
Canon may not always have the latest and greatest tech in their cameras, but they sure know how to make a user friendly camera that just works. For me, the R5 is the best of both worlds. I shoot an equal amount of photo and video. And a lot of times I'm on the go. It's so nice not to have to cary 2 different setups for each. It would be nice if the made a pro body for the photo only market. I'm sure it would do well.
Canon R5 defaults to 1/1 full power flashes consistently when TTL and HSS used at any shutter speed faster than 1/250 sec.
In addition, Bracketing of any kind is not successful-be it flash bracketing or AEB, as the Z cameras are able to do with flash.
Gear tested:
Canon R5
Flashpoint PRO2 MK2 Trigger
Flashpoint AD1200 PRO
Flashpoint AD600 PRO TTL
Flashpoint AD200.
All gear on latest firmware.
Submitted for user testing,consensus,and hopeful reporting to the manufacturers.
Interesting. I haven't run into this problem, cant even remember the last time I used an on camera flash though. 🤷♂️
@@rynfilms I've never used an on camera flash in my life' -it would be difficult to fit my AD1200 on top on the camera
These are any set up using a dedicated radio trigger, listed in my gear tested
Please find a safer place to do the eye focus test 🙏
Eh, it was plenty safe up there! 😆
Very informative review. I have had the R5 since one day before the release date and still learned something new. Thank you so much and you did a great job
Nice! I was really hoping to get one in the first batch. Oh well, happy to have one now!
Great video, learnt a lot from it.
Anyway, bringing the camera to canyon is not a good idea, too many flying sands there.
SO MUCH FLYING SAND!!!
Amazingly I didn't get any inside the camera. There is no way I would change lenses down there.
It is not a video camera... it is a still camera in da first place with extra video feature
Well, the extra video feature works pretty darn well. 🤷♂️
@@rynfilms yeah but colour science in photography still sucks :P
It's a photo camera.
Yes, it's that too..
@@rynfilms No, I mean that's what it should mainly be used for, this isn't a pro grade RED/Arri yet people try to use it as one then complain it overheats in 8K.
Well, it’s not a video camera so there’s that.
It shoots video, so... 🤷♂️
@@rynfilms It’s a stills camera that shoots some video. These cameras are designed for photographers that want to shoot “some video” not for full time cinematographers unless they are used as B cams.
Well it is not a video centric camera. It is a stills camera that happens to shoot video. You want a video camera buy one
It also happens to shoot pretty amazing quality video. 🤷♂️
I've had a few video cameras. I like having it all in one. So much more convenient.
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Thanks! 😊