It's also not entirely outside the bounds of possibility in my opinion. There's plenty of Fantasy open ended survival/craft games that allow you to do just that. Terraria, Core Keeper, etc. allow you to catch special kinds of creatures from lava, pools of acid, and other kinds of liquid sources.
Interesting idea! It’s definitely possible, knowing nothing about game design I can only imagine how difficult it’s gonna be to implement it effectively. But they’ve announced it now, so they’d better deliver 😁 thanks for watching!
That's what I came here to say. The Luminous Growth could be spread around to look like water. Nobody is expecting to fish, we just want it for the aesthetics.
@@Pratfallofficial yeah, like I would expect that they started work with the intention of eventually adding water so hopefully it won't be too big of an issue.
My ideas: 1: Some buildables like the scarecrow should have mechanical significance to the game example: you have a base 10% chance to lose crops to wildlife when farming but the scarecrow reduces that chance by x%. maybe have the area of effect where the scarecrow would work and obviously have the buff be not stackable. 2: buildable target dummies with infinite health so we can test our builds. Also buildable bow targets (like in the starter ruins). non potted plants in flame area should have a delay when pressing E to cultivate - I always end up harvesting flowers that I put for decoration by mistake.
I'd personally rather have it so that you don't "lose" crops but the scarecrow scares off pests so that they grow faster than their normal rate for say every 10x10 surrounding blocks. So instead of taking 30 minutes to grow a certain crop, ie. saffron, its only 15 minutes. Its just imagined by us I guess that they're growing slower because of pests like birds. This game can sometimes be infuriating and making it so you have to worry about losing progress on your crops would absolutely make me livid. Especially if in a previous version like now we don't have to worry about that happening and a new update that would add that would only be detrimental. You're not gaining anything from the scarecrow in your proposition, you're just breaking even to what we already have and possibly having to give up materials I'd rather not spend.
These responses are really exciting. First side note, I feel like in a lot of ways, it would be better to compare Enshrouded to Minecraft rather than Valheim, what with how the building system works. Second side note: Definitely looking forward to weapon racks (and armor racks if they add them) as well as hoping that their vanity system is similar to the glamour system in Final Fantasy XIV or Transmog in WoW, since, while I love the stats on the elder armor set, I like the look of the Archmage set better, and would love to be able to glamour over the elder set's look with the archmage set, for example. Weather system & farming animals are definitely two things I'm looking forward to, even have been building an Hacienda in the Nomad Highlands with a area outside the main compound set aside to wall off for livestock pastures when they add it. Hell, I'm happy with all the stuff they added with this first update, especially, believe it or not, the ability to craft Yucca palm seedlings (I use them heavily in landscaping), and I'm hoping they continue to add new growable plants, like the dracaena/cordyline-like shrubs from the Nomad Highlands or the cacti from the Kindlewastes, because both those would go great with my current base build. Finally, definitely also hope they add photomode soon, because that will make creating thumbnails for the build videos I plan on making far easier than what's currently available. Also final side-note in regards to water, I wonder if they could make it work like water in (again to go back to my first side note) Minecraft? I mean that is a voxel-based game with just as much destructability/modability to the terrain as Enshrouded (if not more), and it seems to have worked well enough for Minecraft for the past 12 years.... Thanks for sharing the highlights of the AMA session & your thoughts on it.
Yeah we agree with everything here! Minecraft is definitely a more apt comparison, (im still trying to convince Ben to let us do a video on Minecraft bc he’s only played it a couple times😂) the weather system and animal farming will just add so much life to the game! Theres so much to be excited about throughout this year with enshrouded and we’re really enjoying sharing our experience with people so thank you so much for watching! - Shaun
Good summary, thank you! One important info imo was the statement that the changes to serverside progression vs. clientside progression ist scheduled for the next update. While I get Keen's initial idea for the serverside progression, this is the one thing that keeps me and some of my friends from playing on one server together atm.
Absolutely, forgot to include that point, whoops! Agreed, I imagine it’s a change that may take a while to implement, but considering the amount of people who are asking for the change, I would assume it’ll happen at some point. Thanks for watching!
I really enjoy dev teams like this, they have a vision for their game, but they care about what we the players also want. They're willing to listen and adapt stuff and it's really cool to be heard!
I have a giant list of wishes/fixes, but nearly #1 on my list is ARMOR STANDS. It would help a little with storage, and add a ton of ambience to bases. Weapon racks would be second after that. I've seen mention of buildable target dummies for testing damage. Why couldn't the test dummies serve a dual usage and hold armor? Since the devs shut down the feature request upvote page, how do we express our suggestions to them? As I said, I have a long list of suggestions/wishes/bug fixes.
Armour & weapon stands would be amazing! Our prediction is that they arrive in the next one or two major updates. It just seems like an obvious implementation.
I want weapon displays and that kitchen stove so badly. More npcs would be lovely and I also wish that our current npcs would pretend to use the crafting stations around them. Just to liven up the area.
Yeah some basic animations where the npcs make their way around the crafting items, using them for a bit, then moving one the next one would make builds and bases feel so much more alive!
It's my wish that all weapons in the game are lootable, and available in all rarities. I want a Legendary Acid Cleaver! Also, since there is such a heavy emphasis on building, 8 Flame Altars are nowhere near enough! Sorry for the Valheim comparison, but in that game I have a dozen bases here, a dozen there, I build CONSTANTLY in that game. We need to be able to make DOZENS of Flame Altars.
Definitely a fair comparison in this case! I'd say that honestly 8 altars is a reasonable number considering the amount of time the game has been out, but yeah, more in the future is a must for sure. We don't want to be repeating our world progress every time we want to make new builds!
For the underground expansion, there is a lot of underground places currently not reachable because they are still in the deadly shroud, it would be easy to do something with these places. Some of these places are complete with building and enemies, so my guess is that there is definitely something that can be done with this in the future.
Oh for sure. Large underground caverns untouched by shroud, ancient civilisations even, and a bunch of new blocks and materials that we could make unique underground builds with. I’d love that.
i think the game would benefit from either multiple skill trees because switching is so cheap. and the ability to uniassign trait points one by one, cuz sometimes you don't want to reset the whole fucking tree to take of a few points you regret these changes and the armor/weapon stands would be nice for multiple builds quality of life. switching between builds is more trouble than it should be. the fun is in the gameplay not the micromanaging.
I know and understand how incredibly difficult adding water will be, esp at the graphic quality of the rest of the game. ALSO lol weather kinda requires water. Like lowkey the snow on the mountains and the clouds in the sky means there's water that is not shroud somewhere right now lol sky would be perfectly clear if all the water was gone. I hope they add a loot all to a certain radius around the character as a QoL, but also as accessible feature. It's needed.
As I was watching your Hollow Halls run, as alongside my own time in the dungeon, I wonder if they might eventually add a "mini-map" of the dungeon . For this OG gamer, I tend to get myself turned around in the larger dungeons and would love a mini map of sorts. Thoughts ? ps. love your content by the way .
I love the idea of a minimap, that would be fantastic. Shaun is a natural with directions, but I’m in the exact same boat as you. 😂 thanks for watching! - Ben
With the lore around water. How do the wells still work if the water got turned into shroud? I think caves with untouched water as well should be implemented. Some underground water remaining untouched makes sense.
So I think the idea is that the main bodies of flowing water (rivers etc) became shroud whereas things like the wells (which would be holes into caves and isolated water systems) would remain untouched by it :)
Lore-friendly option: All the red sh!t becomes water when an area is permanently cleared. We'd have to do something extraordinary to make it permanent, but turning the red sh!t blue could work.
@@Pratfallofficial *rolls back into comments hopped up on 'mysterious flask'* I did it! Then I accidentally also killed the shroud monstrosity by fighting too close to a tiger. Absolutely cheesed it. No regrets though I am now way under powered for the shroud I can enter.
@@fuzzybananasocks9396 Amazing! We were terrified by the prospect of the monstrosity, so we put it off for ages. By the time we were forced to fight it, we were most definitely over-levelled haha. Very easy boss to cheese tbf, it's fine when they can't run
Have you guys had server problems? We are playing in house thru the game on separate computers and are encountering server overload, rubber banding and being kicked out. GPU drivers are up to date. New powerful computers. It's very frustrating
We’ve had a couple of issues with the server lagging out in the last few weeks. And then one issue Ben was having where I was lagging all over the place. But for the most part they’ve been fine for us! Hopefully your issues will stop soon
Yes yes yes... pleeeease a creative mode. I absolutely love playing this game and love the aesthetics and building part of it and I don't even mind fighting some enemies but some of them are way too hard and I do understand you have to update your armor and your potions and all that stuff but it's hard to get anywhere sometimes so I really hope that Keen will let us at least tone down the enemy like in NMS🤍 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻Thank You for this content.
I agree, we just finished the last hollow hall, and it was super difficult. They’re planning to revamp the combat system though, so hopefully we can all continue to develop our own playstyles :)
i swear if they make the game even easier cause of people like you....its supposed to be a bit difficult. as for the hollow halls, they are supposed to be difficult, do you really want to play a game where you dont die?
Great video guys. Although like the devs, I feel like you glanced over the discussion around mods too quickly. Modding capability can not be appreciated enough in my opinion.
dude wtf is the obsession with backpacks xD its a goar game monsters lurk around not pokomons this is not pal world xD wtf are we gonna do with backpacks pick up flowers for our bestie ?? they are progressing beautifully with updates i dont want em to chicken out.. game is so unique and individual i dont want it to look like any other game kinda like baldursgate
Lava or toxic pool fishing sounds positively metal tbh
Just sitting there catching melted fish while your fishing rod burns away 🤟🏻
It's also not entirely outside the bounds of possibility in my opinion. There's plenty of Fantasy open ended survival/craft games that allow you to do just that. Terraria, Core Keeper, etc. allow you to catch special kinds of creatures from lava, pools of acid, and other kinds of liquid sources.
One way they could add water is to add water blocks. Maybe like the dirt blocks that you cant manipulate with the rake.
Interesting idea! It’s definitely possible, knowing nothing about game design I can only imagine how difficult it’s gonna be to implement it effectively. But they’ve announced it now, so they’d better deliver 😁 thanks for watching!
That's what I came here to say. The Luminous Growth could be spread around to look like water. Nobody is expecting to fish, we just want it for the aesthetics.
@@Pratfallofficial yeah, like I would expect that they started work with the intention of eventually adding water so hopefully it won't be too big of an issue.
i wonder how the devs of minecraft made it work
My ideas: 1: Some buildables like the scarecrow should have mechanical significance to the game example: you have a base 10% chance to lose crops to wildlife when farming but the scarecrow reduces that chance by x%. maybe have the area of effect where the scarecrow would work and obviously have the buff be not stackable. 2: buildable target dummies with infinite health so we can test our builds. Also buildable bow targets (like in the starter ruins). non potted plants in flame area should have a delay when pressing E to cultivate - I always end up harvesting flowers that I put for decoration by mistake.
That idea for the scarecrow is really smart! I hope they implement that!
Buildable target dummies for testing damage are a really great idea. +1.
I'd personally rather have it so that you don't "lose" crops but the scarecrow scares off pests so that they grow faster than their normal rate for say every 10x10 surrounding blocks. So instead of taking 30 minutes to grow a certain crop, ie. saffron, its only 15 minutes. Its just imagined by us I guess that they're growing slower because of pests like birds. This game can sometimes be infuriating and making it so you have to worry about losing progress on your crops would absolutely make me livid. Especially if in a previous version like now we don't have to worry about that happening and a new update that would add that would only be detrimental. You're not gaining anything from the scarecrow in your proposition, you're just breaking even to what we already have and possibly having to give up materials I'd rather not spend.
These responses are really exciting. First side note, I feel like in a lot of ways, it would be better to compare Enshrouded to Minecraft rather than Valheim, what with how the building system works. Second side note: Definitely looking forward to weapon racks (and armor racks if they add them) as well as hoping that their vanity system is similar to the glamour system in Final Fantasy XIV or Transmog in WoW, since, while I love the stats on the elder armor set, I like the look of the Archmage set better, and would love to be able to glamour over the elder set's look with the archmage set, for example.
Weather system & farming animals are definitely two things I'm looking forward to, even have been building an Hacienda in the Nomad Highlands with a area outside the main compound set aside to wall off for livestock pastures when they add it. Hell, I'm happy with all the stuff they added with this first update, especially, believe it or not, the ability to craft Yucca palm seedlings (I use them heavily in landscaping), and I'm hoping they continue to add new growable plants, like the dracaena/cordyline-like shrubs from the Nomad Highlands or the cacti from the Kindlewastes, because both those would go great with my current base build.
Finally, definitely also hope they add photomode soon, because that will make creating thumbnails for the build videos I plan on making far easier than what's currently available. Also final side-note in regards to water, I wonder if they could make it work like water in (again to go back to my first side note) Minecraft? I mean that is a voxel-based game with just as much destructability/modability to the terrain as Enshrouded (if not more), and it seems to have worked well enough for Minecraft for the past 12 years....
Thanks for sharing the highlights of the AMA session & your thoughts on it.
Yeah we agree with everything here! Minecraft is definitely a more apt comparison, (im still trying to convince Ben to let us do a video on Minecraft bc he’s only played it a couple times😂)
the weather system and animal farming will just add so much life to the game!
Theres so much to be excited about throughout this year with enshrouded and we’re really enjoying sharing our experience with people so thank you so much for watching!
- Shaun
Good summary, thank you! One important info imo was the statement that the changes to serverside progression vs. clientside progression ist scheduled for the next update. While I get Keen's initial idea for the serverside progression, this is the one thing that keeps me and some of my friends from playing on one server together atm.
Absolutely, forgot to include that point, whoops!
Agreed, I imagine it’s a change that may take a while to implement, but considering the amount of people who are asking for the change, I would assume it’ll happen at some point. Thanks for watching!
I really enjoy dev teams like this, they have a vision for their game, but they care about what we the players also want. They're willing to listen and adapt stuff and it's really cool to be heard!
Exactly, it gives us a lot of hope for the future of the game. Makes creating content for it especially fun too!
I have a giant list of wishes/fixes, but nearly #1 on my list is ARMOR STANDS. It would help a little with storage, and add a ton of ambience to bases. Weapon racks would be second after that. I've seen mention of buildable target dummies for testing damage. Why couldn't the test dummies serve a dual usage and hold armor?
Since the devs shut down the feature request upvote page, how do we express our suggestions to them? As I said, I have a long list of suggestions/wishes/bug fixes.
Armour & weapon stands would be amazing! Our prediction is that they arrive in the next one or two major updates. It just seems like an obvious implementation.
Having a populated town or city with NPCs would be great
That’s one feature that’s definitely on the way! So fingers crossed they’ll add it in one of the next updates!
I want weapon displays and that kitchen stove so badly. More npcs would be lovely and I also wish that our current npcs would pretend to use the crafting stations around them. Just to liven up the area.
Yeah some basic animations where the npcs make their way around the crafting items, using them for a bit, then moving one the next one would make builds and bases feel so much more alive!
Thank you for the video, great cover of the imprtant questions we all want to know answers to :)
Thank you for watching! We have so much fun making these more conversational, speculative videos so we’re glad people are enjoying them!
@@Pratfallofficial it is definitely a great format. Keep them up!
It's my wish that all weapons in the game are lootable, and available in all rarities. I want a Legendary Acid Cleaver!
Also, since there is such a heavy emphasis on building, 8 Flame Altars are nowhere near enough! Sorry for the Valheim comparison, but in that game I have a dozen bases here, a dozen there, I build CONSTANTLY in that game. We need to be able to make DOZENS of Flame Altars.
Definitely a fair comparison in this case! I'd say that honestly 8 altars is a reasonable number considering the amount of time the game has been out, but yeah, more in the future is a must for sure. We don't want to be repeating our world progress every time we want to make new builds!
For the underground expansion, there is a lot of underground places currently not reachable because they are still in the deadly shroud, it would be easy to do something with these places. Some of these places are complete with building and enemies, so my guess is that there is definitely something that can be done with this in the future.
Oh for sure. Large underground caverns untouched by shroud, ancient civilisations even, and a bunch of new blocks and materials that we could make unique underground builds with. I’d love that.
I was wondering what may be next for this game - thanks for the video.
You’re very welcome! Thank you for watching!
It would be hilarious if they added a fishing rod based on his comment and just say "go nuts and catch them fish ZGoot." Without adding in the water.
Thanks for summarizing everything ❤️
You’re welcome! Thanks for stopping by :)
about the water part,.... minecraft is a voxel buildt world as well right? they had water and made it work,.... i got faith in em
Yep, the develops of Enshrouded also made Portal Knights, which is very similar to Minecraft and also has water :)
i think the game would benefit from either multiple skill trees because switching is so cheap.
and the ability to uniassign trait points one by one, cuz sometimes you don't want to reset the whole fucking tree to take of a few points you regret
these changes and the armor/weapon stands would be nice for multiple builds quality of life. switching between builds is more trouble than it should be. the fun is in the gameplay not the micromanaging.
HOLLOW - GOOD, too long (glider - dead, stuff - gone)
need a break (potion, food, stuff)
I know and understand how incredibly difficult adding water will be, esp at the graphic quality of the rest of the game. ALSO lol weather kinda requires water. Like lowkey the snow on the mountains and the clouds in the sky means there's water that is not shroud somewhere right now lol sky would be perfectly clear if all the water was gone.
I hope they add a loot all to a certain radius around the character as a QoL, but also as accessible feature. It's needed.
Yeah, that’s a very good point. I imagine these sorts of features will all be added around the same sort of time. It’s exciting :)
As I was watching your Hollow Halls run, as alongside my own time in the dungeon, I wonder if they might eventually add a "mini-map" of the dungeon . For this OG gamer, I tend to get myself turned around in the larger dungeons and would love a mini map of sorts. Thoughts ? ps. love your content by the way .
I love the idea of a minimap, that would be fantastic. Shaun is a natural with directions, but I’m in the exact same boat as you. 😂 thanks for watching!
- Ben
With the lore around water. How do the wells still work if the water got turned into shroud? I think caves with untouched water as well should be implemented. Some underground water remaining untouched makes sense.
So I think the idea is that the main bodies of flowing water (rivers etc) became shroud whereas things like the wells (which would be holes into caves and isolated water systems) would remain untouched by it :)
Lore-friendly option: All the red sh!t becomes water when an area is permanently cleared. We'd have to do something extraordinary to make it permanent, but turning the red sh!t blue could work.
New update announced today!
This is so exciting. I need to hurry up and kill the dragon so I'm not being held back.
It shouldn’t take you too long to beat it! It’s a super fun fight so let us know how you find it!
@@Pratfallofficial *rolls back into comments hopped up on 'mysterious flask'* I did it! Then I accidentally also killed the shroud monstrosity by fighting too close to a tiger. Absolutely cheesed it. No regrets though I am now way under powered for the shroud I can enter.
@@fuzzybananasocks9396 Amazing! We were terrified by the prospect of the monstrosity, so we put it off for ages. By the time we were forced to fight it, we were most definitely over-levelled haha. Very easy boss to cheese tbf, it's fine when they can't run
Have you guys had server problems? We are playing in house thru the game on separate computers and are encountering server overload, rubber banding and being kicked out. GPU drivers are up to date. New powerful computers. It's very frustrating
We’ve had a couple of issues with the server lagging out in the last few weeks. And then one issue Ben was having where I was lagging all over the place. But for the most part they’ve been fine for us! Hopefully your issues will stop soon
Nice, I absolutely love this game 🎮 .
WHEN ARE THEY GOINGING TO FIX THE BLOOM!!!!!
Should’ve asked them, that’s what the AMA was for 😁
Yes yes yes... pleeeease a creative mode.
I absolutely love playing this game and love the aesthetics and building part of it and I don't even mind fighting some enemies but some of them are way too hard and I do understand you have to update your armor and your potions and all that stuff but it's hard to get anywhere sometimes so I really hope that Keen will let us at least tone down the enemy like in NMS🤍 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻Thank You for this content.
I agree, we just finished the last hollow hall, and it was super difficult. They’re planning to revamp the combat system though, so hopefully we can all continue to develop our own playstyles :)
i swear if they make the game even easier cause of people like you....its supposed to be a bit difficult. as for the hollow halls, they are supposed to be difficult, do you really want to play a game where you dont die?
springlands ancient spire
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Great video guys. Although like the devs, I feel like you glanced over the discussion around mods too quickly. Modding capability can not be appreciated enough in my opinion.
Yeah the mod potential for this game is massive!
Should have add an NPC a wife husband, brother sisters, kids and grannies. yes?
Yes
dude wtf is the obsession with backpacks xD its a goar game monsters lurk around not pokomons this is not pal world xD wtf are we gonna do with backpacks pick up flowers for our bestie ?? they are progressing beautifully with updates i dont want em to chicken out.. game is so unique and individual i dont want it to look like any other game kinda like baldursgate
I mean, is a bestie really a bestie if you’re not willing to pick flowers for them? I agree though, I don’t think backpacks are necessary haha
valheim - awesome
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