More than that mega underrated so underrated to the point nicktoons (during the "cringe era") were even aware of it (i should know cuz I recorded that crap over and over again when I got the chance)
considering this is a 4kids show, this is amazing they went so far with stockman. you know. 4kids. who turn cigarrettes into lolipops, hell into the shadow realm, and generally avoids showing any gore or extreme violence. and death doesnt exist in their shows. but lo and behold we have mr baxter stockman. every failure he is shown dragged away only to be shown in his next appearence to be visibly mutilated. and then we get to the episode "insane in the membrain" (yes. that's what that episode was called) where stockman, in an attempt to get his old body cloned, actually succeeds at first... only for it to start breaking down and rotting due to stockmans impatience and not having more tests done to make the cloned body stable. it also visibly drives him insane. i almost feel like the 2003 tmnt is more mirage studios giving the middle finger to most of 4kids standards... and whoever was in charge of editing at 4kids must have been asleep at the wheel or on break whenever it was time to look over an episode of tmnt. 2003 turtles is like, the anti-4kids cartoon.
This was my very first Shredder. He is the standard to which I compare everything else. Same goes for the 2003 series in general, it is the standard to which I compare. The series is just so good but barely anyone ever talked about. I have no idea why though.
Sadly, I never found 1987 Shredder "Comedic", especially after Season 3 "The Big Rip Off", where he planned to *Murder* April by hacking Cyclomp, and locking her inside an Air-Tight Vault! If *That* isn't *Murder,* I don't know what is!!!
"You speak my name, but you do not know me! My name is Ch'rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one TRUE Shredder! I am a destroyer of worlds, and I FEAR NO MORE!" - The Utrom Shredder in Turtles Forever
He actually says “You speak me name, but you do not know me. I am Ch’rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one true Shredder! I am a destroyer of worlds, and I fear no one!”
If it was THIS Shredder going against Batman in the crossover, you know motherf-in well that fight would be one of the most epic showdowns in the history of animation.
Honestly I think Batman would have a hard time with them. He might even lose. I'm just saying the only thing that killed this version of shredder was basically erasing him from time from what I understood.
@@FireFox64000000 the shredder only knows one martial and that is ninjustu while batman has learned 127 martial arts including ninjustu and mastered them all
@@shadowslayer9988 Yes and out of all those martial arts he chooses to use fear as a weapon. The shredder is fear and the only thing that's killed him so far is breaking time it's self. besides it's not the style of martial art that matters it's the way you use it.
It was more the foot? He wasn’t a throw away villain, his presence was quite large and looming in the original comic series, but he himself only appeared in 4 issues, he was killed off in issue 1, as the original comic was released as a joke comic, and when it sold well the creators continued it. They have stated they didn’t want recurring villains, as it diminished the hero. And so they bought back shredder when they needed a large threat to get the turtles out of the city, as the creators had moved out of the city at the time, and wanted to have stories where the turtles were outside of New York. And so the shredder returned, and then the turtles fled to north Hampton, after he raided April’s apartment. About ten issues later they returned to New York, then within two issues Leo kills him by beheading him. But they often fought the foot clan. This culminated in the story line city at war, where after the death of shredder, the foot clan the foot clan start a gang war, basically they split up into factions and begin fighting for dominance. Leo doesn’t really care, as he was honour bound to fight the shredder but doesn’t really care about the foot clan ( the turtles only fight people if they have to within the original comics ). Karai who is not the shredders daughter in the comic, and is actually insinuated to be in charge of the actual foot clan, not just the New York rank. And the two join forces to take down the New York foot clan, with the agreement that once the foot clan has a new leader they will leave that turtles alone
@@DaDualityofMan They didn't really have an "archnemesis" concept in the Mirage comics. The rat king was a single-issue villian (in issue "I, Monster"), Baxter Stockman was a single-issue villain (issue #2), and Kraang didn't exist. Generally speaking, the turtles didn't take prisoners and were essentially child soldiers of Splinter. If they had one nemesis it was the Shredder, for two reasons: 1) He's tied to their origin story in the comics. They were trained by Splinter to kill him; He's the reason they became ninjas. 2) A clone of Shredder came after them later in the series, in an amazing story arch that led the Turtles to retreat from New York for a time, followed eventually by a return and a fight with Shredder where Leonardo cuts the clone's head off.
I loved the 2003 series best because of all the dimensions they took things. Alternative versions, multiverse theory, space/time travel aliens, genetic mutation (on top of the obvious). Shit really was a thrill to watch. This show still don't get enough credit
@@CassandraPantaristi I agree, I was a bit of late comer to the series not seeing a complete episode until 2005. I was hooked from then on, thanks to the DVD releases I caught up to season 7( I only saw a handful of Back To The Sewers episodes in 2008.) I have seasons 1,2, half of 4 and 5 on DVD currently along with the uncut version of Turtles Forever from England. I am actively working on getting all of seasons 3 and 3 along with season 6 (aka TMNT Fast Forward). I hope that Nickelodeon releases complete seasons on DVD soon, baring that I will save up to purchase season 7 from overseas since I own a region free DVD player.
@@user-si9fx4xb6v what did you think of TURTLES FOREVER? I have the edited version which is about 70 minutes on VUDU and I have The Uncut Version on DVD I was lucky enough to find a video link on the Internet almost 4 years ago and had it pirated
What I love about every 2003 Shredder is that he was evil. There was no some overdone backstory to give him more complex motivation. He was evil just for the sake of being evil, acting on his basic greedy and power hungry motivations. You rarely get those types of villains today and that's why this Shredder aged so well.
@@_Mr.Black_ lmao truuuuue. I remember alot of people saying "evil for evil's sake" villain were super boring and now i'm seeing more and more people want them back
I remember when I was a kid (2000s) everyone was getting sick of these villains who were just evil for no reason. That’s why there was the shift to those misguided villains
@TMNT FOREVER: I disagree. 2003 *Was* the best, BUT 1987 was close second in *My* book. 2012 was crap! Otherwise I'd lose sleep pulling all nighters watching it, instead of looking for 2003 series on DVD
Alysa Aiday yeah no 2012 was not crap, it was extremely well written amazing fighting scenes and even managed to go darker than the 2003 series. Sounds more like your just blinded by nostalgia and just have shitty taste in shows
@@JadenMoon1475 1987 shredder is just a clown. He has about 5 serious episodes, and even then he's mediocre compared to these versions, specially 2003.
The show was in the same role as batman the animated series, teen titans, young justice, wolverine & x men, spectacular spiderman , avengers earth's mightiest heroes
2003 Turtles was hands down the best animated version of Turtles to date IMO and I was around for the original 1987 series. Half the time many of the 2003 episodes were like watching a movie. Many plots and subplots. The storylines were that good. Excellent video.
@cowchipsbotme The Japanese elements added in 2012 are rather cringy though like adding random Japanese words and sentences (something that only weebs would do) . 2003 knew how to balance between Japanese traditions and the modern New York since after all, the Turtles are American teenagers. 2003 has better stories and characters. 2012 Mikey is so wimpy and annoying. Mikey is supposed to be the one that has the most raw talent and he can beat Raph when he is serious. Somehow, 2012 looked down on Donnie and Mikey as weaker fighters than Raph and Leo but that isn't true.
Kids today being worried that they won't get their Forknight skin, back in my day getting the Shredder action figure was like an Indiana Jones adventure itself
I own the OG Shredder figure from first release wave. It says 2002 on his foot. I also a second figure that came out later, this one had a removable helmet. Never owned the Feudal Shredder.
@@filipbabic4913 One could also say: "Kids back in the 80s being worried that they won´t get the Shredder action figure, when back in the 50s they didn´t even have television..." I mean, is the same kind of logic.
You could tell that the creators put there heart and soul in this shredder this is why this is everyone's favorite shredder I sure as hell know it's mine
I like 2012 more because I like that 2012 shredder was actually human turned monster. I also like his backstory with hamato yoshi aka splinter more than hamato yoshi and splinter being 2 different people.
2012 is my favorite, the ideal shredder would have been the utrom side of shredder as a version of krang and the human half of shredder being a normal human
2003's Shredder is hands down my favorite, especially Ch'rell. he was just pure evil ( and he didnt even need a demon to be that bad... ), i loved his design and how bad he was. and not gonna lie that twist threw me for a loop, didnt see it coming. he just refused to say down. dont get me wrong i love the 2012 Shredder, but this one just had something to him that most dont have, im not sure how to explain it.... depending on how well the Shredder is how i judge a TMNT series. i might be hoping for too much, but i do hope Rise come out with a Shredder, and that he is somewhere as cool as the past few we got. this was an awesome vid dude, please keep up the great work
I wouldn't hold your breath of Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That series I believe is bound to flop. I knew it would be bad, judging from the commercials. Also, the Turtles didn't even fight crime as kids. They were training to be ninjas, so I doubt Shredder will be thing in Rise. I mean, Shredder in the 2003 series wasn't known to the Turtles until they were 15.
@@CassandraPantaristi They had the gauntlet and the creators confirm that classic characters will return in due time at some point dude your just being paranoid. Also the film could have a sequel that shredder returned. Here is this video ua-cam.com/video/9wP_5d9vsN4/v-deo.html
What I will most remember about this guy will be how he will be the guy who ALWAYS says "none of you will leave here alive" against enemies who always leave wherever they're fighting him alive.
I love the 2003 series and Scottie Ray was the perfect voice for the Shredder. He sounds like a demon who has risen from the depths of hell. However, one thing I like more about the 2012 series is that Shredder's a more complex character. The 2003 Shredder was evil just for the sake of being evil, which is fine for a demonic character but the 2012 Shredder has a more interesting personality. He was a man who never matured to a point where he could acknowledge his own mistakes and therefore always blamed them on others, especially his adopted brother Hamato Yoshi AKA Splinter. He also showed genuine love for Karai and was upset when she turned on him and when she was mutated. The 2003 Shredder revealed he was an Utrom to her but aside from that, he treated her more like a valuable weapon than a daughter. Hell, I suspect he only revealed he was an Utrom as a contingency plan to make sure she knew how to save him in case he was ever in a situation where his exo-suit couldn't protect him.
Ah, so that's who voiced him. Perfect choice. Yeah the 2003 version of TMNT was the best and had the best version of the Shredder. Hell the opening of the 2003 version of TMNT was awesome.
It`s weird when you watch interviews of Scott Rayow`s IRL speaking voice and you realize those demonic Ch`rell,Tengu Shredder and Anubis voices came out of a portly flamboyant-sounding dude from the Midwest.
I grew up with the 2003 turtles and they’re still my favs by far. It had just the right amount of both goofy hijinx and being totally serious. Plus these guys had inter dimensional, spiritual, mythical, time traveling and cyber chasing adventures.
Ch'rell is an embodiment of the stereotypical megalomaniac: bloodthirsty, insane, selfish, vengeful and relentless. He hates anyone who challenges, impedes, or otherwise wrongs him, holding grudges long after the fact - in some cases, this can even become an almost pathological hatred against them. After Ch'rell had assumed the identity of the Shredder, his megalomania became even stronger, to the point of calling himself the "one true Shredder."
@Origami Master Yoda He's actually the most accurate to the comic book. Capturing the complete evil of the Shredder so the fakest is actually the truest version of him.
the fact that 4kids of all companies made arguably the most terrifying depiction of Shredder will never stop being one of the most ironic and hilarious things ever.
I love how everything ties into everything else in the series. This is what those 80-90's anthropomorphic animal shows lacked when they tried to copy TMNT; TMNT had comic-book esque story telling. I like how the Ch'rell and his footclan took color motifs from the Original Orokusaki's palette, and also how the foot symbol was the guardians symbol flipped upside down, to resemble a foot with three toes lol. Also how it's true to Japanese folklore because Tengu's are enemies of buddhism and promise tempting power to cause even the most devoted to fall into buddhist sin.
He murdered millions of beings, not to mention all his crimes in the 1,000 years on Earth. He was completely psychotic. No other Saturday morning cartoon character comes close of equaling the evil that was the Ultrom Shredder.
Not to mention he ripped off a body part of Baxter Stockman every time he failed him. Chrell is a fucking psycho. The most EVIL villain in any TV show EVER.
I stil believe this is the definitive version of the ninja turtles outside of the original and idw comics. That being said, Utrom shredder was arguably the most terrifying version of the character, I would always hold my breath when the turtles confronted him just because of how utterly ruthless he was. The tengu shredder was ok , I didn't really enjoy the mystical approach of season 5. But I do appreciate the lore of the true shredder and how ch'rell was inspired to take on his name. The Karai shredder was cool but too brief, I thought it was pretty devastating for Karai to take on her father's mantle as the shredder.
1984: A One Time Villain 1987: A Fool 2003: Genocidal 2012: Worst Father Ever 90’s: A Real Person 2014: A Transformer 2018: Tengu Shredder Vibes 2019: Able to take on Batman 2007: 🤷♂️
I don’t know much about the 1980s Shredder, but I wouldn’t call him a fool. I definitely thought he was more comedic than menacing though. Though, again, I haven’t seen much of him. I never saw the original cartoon. I’ve only seen a few clips, including the one where he says “But I don’t want to conquer Dimension X, I wanna to conquer Earth” like a pouting child (which is just one moment, so I can’t judge him completely by that).
One slight mention of the Utrom shredder is the TMNT episode "same as it never was." it gives the idea of what would have happened if Torell had succeeded in making it back to his utrom home world and returned to earth like he said he would as it's destroyer. At least i think so, anyways, Loved your video! :D
Alot of people just won't understand you had too be there back in 03 too see this show from the beginning every Saturday morning was intense I'm 24 now and still get that same feel whenever I watch it!!!
Ch'rell and 2003 Oroku Saki The Tengu Shredder and 2003 other Shredders form Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 TV Series are best cartoon Shredder and are 2014 Movie/Out Of The Shadows 2016 movie The Shredder Ch'rell and 2003 Oroku Saki The Tengu Shredder are my opinion the greatest Shredders in the TMNT Franchise.
Another thing that makes this Shredder great is that he has very ambitious goals like he doesn't just want to take over the world, he wants to take over the Universe and the Multiverse
It's kinda funny to think that the guardian guy, the one from the plot hole. Is that one guy who snuck away to use the bathroom just as the Utroms where telling everyone who the shredder was. And somehow never caught on after.
I wish Ch'rell the Utrom Shredder's spirt can merge with the Real Oroku Saki's soul and The The Shredder Tengu's soul already merged with The Real Oroku Saki's Spirt. That still be 2003 Shredder.
Utrom Shredder: The most psychotic. Tengu/Demon Shredder: The most powerful. Karai as Shredder: The most perplexing and tragic. Cyber Shredder: The most resourceful and driven.
I see I have come across the lore master of the 2003 TMNT series. My favorite iteration. This series sure got dark especially for a show aimed towards kids.
This version of shredder is what shredder is supposed to be, especially his portrayal in season 1. They did his character justice rightfully showing him as a merciless and highly intelligent warrior. This shredder is what the leader of the ruthless foot clan ninjas, the ones responsible for almost half the bad shit happening in the world, should look like.
The 2003 version has the biggest and most complex story, ranging from thousands of years before the present, till hundred years later, basically i really like the ancient and mystical plot with outher alien races
The reason this awesome show is overlooked is simply because it ain't the 1987 cartoon. And even though he was posessed by a Tengu, I'm glad we still got a human Oroku Saki/Shredder in this series.
The 2012 TMNT series shredder the best version of the shredder because ninja turtles fans have more or less been in love with the legend of the shredder than the actual character. The 2012 series actually gave us a dive into the shredders character and his motivations.
CODY SHARP JASON JR HE LOVES HIS OWN 4 SHREDDER CLONES FROM THE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE THE NIGHTMARE SHEREDDER TENGU DEMON SHREDDER MEGA SHREDDER AND THE MECHANICAL LEGENDARY EVIL VILLAIN THE CYBER SHREDDER
Best thing about TMNT 2003 was that they didnt take away the grossness like the mutants, Utroms biomechanical science or the fact people actually died in these series.
I truly loved the 2003 TMNT which was more faithful to the Mirage comic stories. It was like the stories was just copy and paste on in the animated series. I had to say that The Shredder AKA Ch'rell was truly the best thing that happened to that show and in my opinion one of the best Shredder. I guess that surprised twist of him being a Utrom was to try something different and to catch the fans/viewers off guard because in the Mirage comics he didn't last that long. Are you going to do Top 10 TMNT 2003 Episodes [ Season 7].
Utrom Shredder is one dangerous foe and is one of my favorite fictional villains ever. Ruthless till the end! Especially the Demon Shredder, he's pretty wild.
The first 03 Shredder was the most maniacal version ever, even compared to the scary looking shredder in 2012. 2012 was just as bad but 03 had no remorse for Karai, he just use their loyalty and end them if they either betrayed him or failed him (poor stockman). Brutal to the Squshy core. I still remember "that" quote. "Those how are not with me are against me!" "And I crush anyone who stands against me!
Utrom shredder may not be the original but he earned the title, he caused many atrocities across the galaxy, survived death many times he is worthy of the title
Ch'rell didn't kill the smiths of the Sword of Tengu, they're just severely injured. They're seen getting up after getting blasted. I plan on 3D printing the Sword of Tengu and getting a real Ronin blade for the hilt. The 3D printed Sword of Tengu can be found on Etsy.
Ah...this was refreshing! As a long time shredder fan, I'm glad someone took the time to discuss the 2003 series version! I don't have a fave as I love them ALL!
Wow i just realized how much about the 2003 series I didn't know. It's been my favourite turtles series form what I did watch and now knowing all this just makes it my favourite series even more! Thanks you making this video
So happy this was in my recommended. This was my favourite show growing up and I had a box set of episodes I watched for a long ass time. Shredder was and still is my favourite character in all cartoons, he was just so fucking cool and now this video gave me a full rundown of his backstory that just makes me love him even more. This show is to me the perfect version of Tmnt, even though I never saw every single season. Great video
I think alien shredder is my favorite he scares the hell out of me and his the most unique one in the 2003 tmnt not physically the most powerful one but I still love ❤ him
The main reason i see the 2003 series as the best TMNT show out there is because it keeps to the source material while all the other shows yes even the loved 1980's show just make up their own shit for the story about the turtles while the 2003 show keeps to the comic's source material just like the first live action movie did back in 1990.
You're Shredder, he's Shredder, she's Shredder... *I'M SHREDDER!!!* Are there any other Shredders I should know about?? _::Cat walks in wearing a Shredder kabuto and meows in a dark tone::_ THAT'S IT, I'm out!
Mashimi did join the Guardians as Yoshi did, but he became jealous because Yoshi was advancing in the guardians, and he had also earned the love of Tang Shen. Mashimi let his jealousy consume him causing him to betray his best friend by joining the foot clan, murdering Tang Shen, and leading an attack on the Utrom's base of operation.
one of my favorite things about "the shredder steikes back" is the cruel brilliance of the shredder's plan isolate, exhaust and cripple their greatest warrior, and instead of finishing him off send him back to the turtles so that he can be burden that hinders their escape as he attacks en mass
while demon shedder was originally titan sized demon then possess the real Oroku Saki to ,because the original shedder , as a result of being a demon he can shape--shift into a dragon.
Ch'rell is still my favorite dark, serious, evil(even Karai was another pawn in his game, although he did treat her slightly better when she was loyal) although some would argue his being an utrom ruined his character i felt that it made it more awesome as it was a loophole they could exploit to do dark and violent things to him while still keeping it kid friendly
I loved when they faced the utrom shredder during the time crisis in Fast Forward, see the thing was it was a version of him from just after master splinter beat him the first time by dropping a water tower on him, so the earliest version of their arch enemy faced the latest version of them, and they basically kicked his ass with barely any effort, they basically treated him as a joke, even saying "you're history".
One theory is that he thought the Ultron himself was in the head and so they might have cut them in half and that he had changed it so he'd have more Direct Control as opposed to sticking to the original design
How crazy was Ninja Turtles some ones asks... Let me tell you something about ninjas turning into dragons like in mortal kombat, time travel, traveling to different realities/dimensions and the ninja turtles becoming dragons themselves. also starwars battles cause why not. So cheesy, bonkers & awesome.
yeah i really loved that show. and I really appreciated how they treated shredder and made him look dangerous and intimidating. but i kinda didnt appreciate the reveal that he was an utrom
I was more ocd about the show being so different from the old one back then, and though I mostly got over it, making Shredder and Krang basically the same character in the 2003 series still doesn't quite sit right.
Good job dude, you had nicely presented that hole story that has excelent plot twist, with all that worlds, dimensions and characters that turtles met. Really good job for putting that huge story all together.👍
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THE MOST CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED CARTOON OF ALL TIME.
It's sad that it's not talked about anymore :(
ROIDED CAPS I just don’t understand why, this show is so GODDAMN GOOD!!!!!!
More than that mega underrated so underrated to the point nicktoons (during the "cringe era") were even aware of it (i should know cuz I recorded that crap over and over again when I got the chance)
Omg the theme song Jesus hell
The most underrated and definitely the best cartoon of all time. It makes Batman TAS look like child's stuff.
How about the fact that 2003 Shredder kept MAIMING Stockman after each of his failures to kill the turtles.
In retrospect this was a dark show.
@Hands0me 0ne and then he was a brain with one eye.
The best part was when he zombified himself
considering this is a 4kids show, this is amazing they went so far with stockman.
you know. 4kids. who turn cigarrettes into lolipops, hell into the shadow realm, and generally avoids showing any gore or extreme violence. and death doesnt exist in their shows.
but lo and behold we have mr baxter stockman. every failure he is shown dragged away only to be shown in his next appearence to be visibly mutilated. and then we get to the episode "insane in the membrain" (yes. that's what that episode was called) where stockman, in an attempt to get his old body cloned, actually succeeds at first... only for it to start breaking down and rotting due to stockmans impatience and not having more tests done to make the cloned body stable. it also visibly drives him insane.
i almost feel like the 2003 tmnt is more mirage studios giving the middle finger to most of 4kids standards... and whoever was in charge of editing at 4kids must have been asleep at the wheel or on break whenever it was time to look over an episode of tmnt.
2003 turtles is like, the anti-4kids cartoon.
Sve je to lepo, ali zasto na Engleskom Milose?
This was my very first Shredder. He is the standard to which I compare everything else. Same goes for the 2003 series in general, it is the standard to which I compare. The series is just so good but barely anyone ever talked about. I have no idea why though.
Same here man the 2003 tmnt was my first series since i was kid
Master Kenobi...A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
Yeah, I was disappointed none of the Shredders from the other series can really match up to him.
In my opinion, the only shredder that can match him in terms of Impact is the IDW version.
Exactly!
1987 Shreder:comedic
2012 Shreder:murderer
2003 Shreder:Badass and Psychotic
2003 is also a murderer.
Sadly, I never found 1987 Shredder "Comedic", especially after Season 3 "The Big Rip Off", where he planned to *Murder* April by hacking Cyclomp, and locking her inside an Air-Tight Vault! If *That* isn't *Murder,* I don't know what is!!!
@@JadenMoon1475 There is a difference between numerous incompetent attempts at murder and actually doing it en masse.
That one time 1987 blew up a building tho
@@DatShadowGuy But I doubt he actually killed anyone anyway.
"You speak my name, but you do not know me! My name is Ch'rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one TRUE Shredder! I am a destroyer of worlds, and I FEAR NO MORE!" - The Utrom Shredder in Turtles Forever
Also known as the Original True Shredder.
"Told you he would take the bait..." -Mirage Comic Leo.
ua-cam.com/video/SvMCLuRIYhw/v-deo.html shredder great quotes
He actually says
“You speak me name, but you do not know me. I am Ch’rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one true Shredder! I am a destroyer of worlds, and I fear no one!”
If it was THIS Shredder going against Batman in the crossover, you know motherf-in well that fight would be one of the most epic showdowns in the history of animation.
@Conrad Kujur batman would beat his ass
Honestly I think Batman would have a hard time with them. He might even lose. I'm just saying the only thing that killed this version of shredder was basically erasing him from time from what I understood.
@@FireFox64000000 the shredder only knows one martial and that is ninjustu while batman has learned 127 martial arts including ninjustu and mastered them all
@@shadowslayer9988
Yes and out of all those martial arts he chooses to use fear as a weapon. The shredder is fear and the only thing that's killed him so far is breaking time it's self. besides it's not the style of martial art that matters it's the way you use it.
@@FireFox64000000 yeah and batman has mastered 127 martial arts and has used them in different ways against enemy's
funny, when the real shredder was a throwaway villain in the original comic, he became an all encompassing villain in later incarnations.
Wow, I never even knew that, who was the original TMNT archnemesis then?
It was more the foot? He wasn’t a throw away villain, his presence was quite large and looming in the original comic series, but he himself only appeared in 4 issues, he was killed off in issue 1, as the original comic was released as a joke comic, and when it sold well the creators continued it. They have stated they didn’t want recurring villains, as it diminished the hero. And so they bought back shredder when they needed a large threat to get the turtles out of the city, as the creators had moved out of the city at the time, and wanted to have stories where the turtles were outside of New York. And so the shredder returned, and then the turtles fled to north Hampton, after he raided April’s apartment. About ten issues later they returned to New York, then within two issues Leo kills him by beheading him. But they often fought the foot clan. This culminated in the story line city at war, where after the death of shredder, the foot clan the foot clan start a gang war, basically they split up into factions and begin fighting for dominance. Leo doesn’t really care, as he was honour bound to fight the shredder but doesn’t really care about the foot clan ( the turtles only fight people if they have to within the original comics ). Karai who is not the shredders daughter in the comic, and is actually insinuated to be in charge of the actual foot clan, not just the New York rank. And the two join forces to take down the New York foot clan, with the agreement that once the foot clan has a new leader they will leave that turtles alone
@@DaDualityofMan They didn't really have an "archnemesis" concept in the Mirage comics. The rat king was a single-issue villian (in issue "I, Monster"), Baxter Stockman was a single-issue villain (issue #2), and Kraang didn't exist. Generally speaking, the turtles didn't take prisoners and were essentially child soldiers of Splinter.
If they had one nemesis it was the Shredder, for two reasons: 1) He's tied to their origin story in the comics. They were trained by Splinter to kill him; He's the reason they became ninjas. 2) A clone of Shredder came after them later in the series, in an amazing story arch that led the Turtles to retreat from New York for a time, followed eventually by a return and a fight with Shredder where Leonardo cuts the clone's head off.
@@QuadraticSquared Cool.
@Starscream91 Wait, what?
To me, the Utrom Shredder is up there with the Joker as one of the best villains of Saturday morning cartoons.
Agreed
The Joker is nothing compare to the Utrom Shredder
You're Shredder, he's Shredder, I'M SHREDDER! Are there any more Shredders I should know about?
*raises hand: "hi"
Gary dressed as shredder: meow
Yes im weeaboo shredder
I read this in Patrick's voice... Like he's talking about wumbo.
*YHOOOOOO* !
I loved the 2003 series best because of all the dimensions they took things. Alternative versions, multiverse theory, space/time travel aliens, genetic mutation (on top of the obvious). Shit really was a thrill to watch. This show still don't get enough credit
I wish here in the US, we could get the complete DVD sets. Goddammit!
@@CassandraPantaristi you can watch it all on Kimcartoon.me
@@CassandraPantaristi I agree, I was a bit of late comer to the series not seeing a complete episode until 2005. I was hooked from then on, thanks to the DVD releases I caught up to season 7( I only saw a handful of Back To The Sewers episodes in 2008.) I have seasons 1,2, half of 4 and 5 on DVD currently along with the uncut version of Turtles Forever from England. I am actively working on getting all of seasons 3 and 3 along with season 6 (aka TMNT Fast Forward).
I hope that Nickelodeon releases complete seasons on DVD soon, baring that I will save up to purchase season 7 from overseas since I own a region free DVD player.
Yessss my favorite series of all!!!!
@@user-si9fx4xb6v what did you think of TURTLES FOREVER? I have the edited version which is about 70 minutes on VUDU and I have The Uncut Version on DVD I was lucky enough to find a video link on the Internet almost 4 years ago and had it pirated
What I love about every 2003 Shredder is that he was evil. There was no some overdone backstory to give him more complex motivation. He was evil just for the sake of being evil, acting on his basic greedy and power hungry motivations. You rarely get those types of villains today and that's why this Shredder aged so well.
Ah yes, villains who are evil for evil's sake, a dying breed indeed, and these Shredders were some of the best
People wanted "complex villains". It's going full circle now people want simple evil dudes again.
@@_Mr.Black_ lmao truuuuue. I remember alot of people saying "evil for evil's sake" villain were super boring and now i'm seeing more and more people want them back
I remember when I was a kid (2000s) everyone was getting sick of these villains who were just evil for no reason. That’s why there was the shift to those misguided villains
Your generation is screwed
In my book the 2003 series has the best Shredder with the 2012 Shredder a close second
SHREDDER HE,S THE BEST POWERFUL EVIL HEARTLESS VILLAIN I EVER MEET HIM AND NOW THE SHREDDER HE BECOMES MY FATHER ORUKO SAKI JR
ABOUT TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES OUT OF THE SHADOWS PS3 VIDEO GAME
@TMNT FOREVER: I disagree. 2003 *Was* the best, BUT 1987 was close second in *My* book. 2012 was crap! Otherwise I'd lose sleep pulling all nighters watching it, instead of looking for 2003 series on DVD
Alysa Aiday yeah no 2012 was not crap, it was extremely well written amazing fighting scenes and even managed to go darker than the 2003 series. Sounds more like your just blinded by nostalgia and just have shitty taste in shows
@@JadenMoon1475 1987 shredder is just a clown. He has about 5 serious episodes, and even then he's mediocre compared to these versions, specially 2003.
The show was in the same role as batman the animated series, teen titans, young justice, wolverine & x men, spectacular spiderman , avengers earth's mightiest heroes
Ah good times. I used to catch all these shows around the same time. What happened y'all?
Is'nt Young Justis going to have a 3rd season?
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@@rekakovacs4450 yea we're getting a young justice season 3 however its gonna be exclusively streamed on dc streaming site
Spectacular Spider-Man?!?
All the avengers cartoons are 🚮 please dont put that garbage w these great shows
2003 Turtles was hands down the best animated version of Turtles to date IMO and I was around for the original 1987 series. Half the time many of the 2003 episodes were like watching a movie. Many plots and subplots. The storylines were that good. Excellent video.
Glad u said that I grew up on the originaland is 36 now. I'll check out this tmnt
@@AbAb-xt8pc hope you are loving it. You got everything. Fights. Villains. Drama. Time travel. Space travel. Like the writers built a legacy.
2012 was very decent, yes. But doesn't come close to 2003. Never.
@cowchipsbotme The Japanese elements added in 2012 are rather cringy though like adding random Japanese words and sentences (something that only weebs would do) . 2003 knew how to balance between Japanese traditions and the modern New York since after all, the Turtles are American teenagers. 2003 has better stories and characters. 2012 Mikey is so wimpy and annoying. Mikey is supposed to be the one that has the most raw talent and he can beat Raph when he is serious. Somehow, 2012 looked down on Donnie and Mikey as weaker fighters than Raph and Leo but that isn't true.
@@rhian6459 Nothing does.
Kids today being worried that they won't get their Forknight skin, back in my day getting the Shredder action figure was like an Indiana Jones adventure itself
Fuedel shredder i looked for for so long.
@@monkeyjesus3470 for me he was everywhere but the OG Shredder wasn't
I own the OG Shredder figure from first release wave. It says 2002 on his foot. I also a second figure that came out later, this one had a removable helmet. Never owned the Feudal Shredder.
I have a lot of respect for my mom. She managed to get all 4 turtles, Splinter, Shredder, and a slightly broken Casey Jones
@@filipbabic4913 One could also say: "Kids back in the 80s being worried that they won´t get the Shredder action figure, when back in the 50s they didn´t even have television..." I mean, is the same kind of logic.
ironic the shredder was defeated by his own counterpart's most incompetent henchmen
lmao
You could tell that the creators put there heart and soul in this shredder this is why this is everyone's favorite shredder I sure as hell know it's mine
Except it's not everyone's favorite shredder.
I just got back into the 03 series and he definitely is my favorite now
I like 2012 more because I like that 2012 shredder was actually human turned monster. I also like his backstory with hamato yoshi aka splinter more than hamato yoshi and splinter being 2 different people.
2012 is my favorite, the ideal shredder would have been the utrom side of shredder as a version of krang and the human half of shredder being a normal human
..which shredder?
2003's Shredder is hands down my favorite, especially Ch'rell. he was just pure evil ( and he didnt even need a demon to be that bad... ), i loved his design and how bad he was. and not gonna lie that twist threw me for a loop, didnt see it coming. he just refused to say down. dont get me wrong i love the 2012 Shredder, but this one just had something to him that most dont have, im not sure how to explain it....
depending on how well the Shredder is how i judge a TMNT series. i might be hoping for too much, but i do hope Rise come out with a Shredder, and that he is somewhere as cool as the past few we got.
this was an awesome vid dude, please keep up the great work
I wouldn't hold your breath of Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That series I believe is bound to flop. I knew it would be bad, judging from the commercials. Also, the Turtles didn't even fight crime as kids. They were training to be ninjas, so I doubt Shredder will be thing in Rise. I mean, Shredder in the 2003 series wasn't known to the Turtles until they were 15.
They were hints of his existence though like gaunlets
@@vikingfromnorth45 But also look at the TMNT 2007 film. Shredder isn't in that one, but his helmet is in their lair.
@@CassandraPantaristi They had the gauntlet and the creators confirm that classic characters will return in due time at some point dude your just being paranoid. Also the film could have a sequel that shredder returned. Here is this video ua-cam.com/video/9wP_5d9vsN4/v-deo.html
@@vikingfromnorth45 No I am not being paranoid. I just don't have faith in the new series.
What I will most remember about this guy will be how he will be the guy who ALWAYS says "none of you will leave here alive" against enemies who always leave wherever they're fighting him alive.
I love the 2003 series and Scottie Ray was the perfect voice for the Shredder. He sounds like a demon who has risen from the depths of hell. However, one thing I like more about the 2012 series is that Shredder's a more complex character. The 2003 Shredder was evil just for the sake of being evil, which is fine for a demonic character but the 2012 Shredder has a more interesting personality. He was a man who never matured to a point where he could acknowledge his own mistakes and therefore always blamed them on others, especially his adopted brother Hamato Yoshi AKA Splinter. He also showed genuine love for Karai and was upset when she turned on him and when she was mutated. The 2003 Shredder revealed he was an Utrom to her but aside from that, he treated her more like a valuable weapon than a daughter. Hell, I suspect he only revealed he was an Utrom as a contingency plan to make sure she knew how to save him in case he was ever in a situation where his exo-suit couldn't protect him.
Ah, so that's who voiced him. Perfect choice. Yeah the 2003 version of TMNT was the best and had the best version of the Shredder. Hell the opening of the 2003 version of TMNT was awesome.
It`s weird when you watch interviews of Scott Rayow`s IRL speaking voice and you realize those demonic Ch`rell,Tengu Shredder and Anubis voices came out of a portly flamboyant-sounding dude from the Midwest.
I grew up with the 2003 turtles and they’re still my favs by far. It had just the right amount of both goofy hijinx and being totally serious. Plus these guys had inter dimensional, spiritual, mythical, time traveling and cyber chasing adventures.
“Ch’Rell, also known as Torrinon, Tako Naso, Duke Akureds, Oroku Saki, and the Shredder.”
Still remember that incredible two-parter to this day.
Ch'rell is an embodiment of the stereotypical megalomaniac: bloodthirsty, insane, selfish, vengeful and relentless. He hates anyone who challenges, impedes, or otherwise wrongs him, holding grudges long after the fact - in some cases, this can even become an almost pathological hatred against them. After Ch'rell had assumed the identity of the Shredder, his megalomania became even stronger, to the point of calling himself the "one true Shredder."
@Origami Master Yoda He's actually the most accurate to the comic book. Capturing the complete evil of the Shredder so the fakest is actually the truest version of him.
He is the one true shrreder
Boo yah
the fact that 4kids of all companies made arguably the most terrifying depiction of Shredder will never stop being one of the most ironic and hilarious things ever.
You forgot to mention the elite guards had nice hats
I love how everything ties into everything else in the series. This is what those 80-90's anthropomorphic animal shows lacked when they tried to copy TMNT; TMNT had comic-book esque story telling. I like how the Ch'rell and his footclan took color motifs from the Original Orokusaki's palette, and also how the foot symbol was the guardians symbol flipped upside down, to resemble a foot with three toes lol. Also how it's true to Japanese folklore because Tengu's are enemies of buddhism and promise tempting power to cause even the most devoted to fall into buddhist sin.
Thank god there are still people out there who remember and love the 2003 series. Best cartoon of all time!
Ch’rell The Ultrom Shredder is without a doubt the most evil cartoon character of all time.
Certainly the most evil TMNT version of the Shredder and the most evil TMNT character in general.
So evil he almost annihilated the entire Turtle Multiverse!
He murdered millions of beings, not to mention all his crimes in the 1,000 years on Earth. He was completely psychotic. No other Saturday morning cartoon character comes close of equaling the evil that was the Ultrom Shredder.
I'd say trigon's got him beat.
Not to mention he ripped off a body part of Baxter Stockman every time he failed him. Chrell is a fucking psycho. The most EVIL villain in any TV show EVER.
I stil believe this is the definitive version of the ninja turtles outside of the original and idw comics. That being said, Utrom shredder was arguably the most terrifying version of the character, I would always hold my breath when the turtles confronted him just because of how utterly ruthless he was. The tengu shredder was ok , I didn't really enjoy the mystical approach of season 5. But I do appreciate the lore of the true shredder and how ch'rell was inspired to take on his name. The Karai shredder was cool but too brief, I thought it was pretty devastating for Karai to take on her father's mantle as the shredder.
I wish Karai was Shredder for longer too. She would be like Ch'rell, but with some actual depth and personality.
Agreed.
This is seriously my favorite series! I loved the plots but honestly got confused at the shredder parts thanks for clarifying!
1984: A One Time Villain
1987: A Fool
2003: Genocidal
2012: Worst Father Ever
90’s: A Real Person
2014: A Transformer
2018: Tengu Shredder Vibes
2019: Able to take on Batman
2007: 🤷♂️
1987 Shredder wasn't a Fool!
I don’t think 1987 is a fool he’s just misguided and obsessed
I don’t know much about the 1980s Shredder, but I wouldn’t call him a fool. I definitely thought he was more comedic than menacing though. Though, again, I haven’t seen much of him. I never saw the original cartoon. I’ve only seen a few clips, including the one where he says “But I don’t want to conquer Dimension X, I wanna to conquer Earth” like a pouting child (which is just one moment, so I can’t judge him completely by that).
1997: A bum on the street
man i miss this show i hope they remaster or continue it
Nah, I want a continuation but I'm scared they'll ruin it with a remake
TheAdamSmasher Multiverse The remake actually was good
I love TMNT 2003 series because of the Shredder, the foot mystics and the foot ninjas
Good taste!
ch'rell is probably the best version of the shredder.
he could even be considered an homage to krang with how he is.
Yeah, I always considered him to be a fusion of Shredder and Krang.
One slight mention of the Utrom shredder is the TMNT episode "same as it never was." it gives the idea of what would have happened if Torell had succeeded in making it back to his utrom home world and returned to earth like he said he would as it's destroyer. At least i think so, anyways, Loved your video! :D
Ch`rell.His name`s Ch`rell.Also Duke Acureds,Torinnon,Oroku Saki and The Self-Proclaimed "One True Shredder!"
darkest show 4kids ever did .... my intro into the tmnt verse .....hands down one of the best cartoons out there .......season 1-5
Agreed.
Season 6 and 7 were a bit unnecessary and weren't consistent enough.
The movie was perfect though.
Alot of people just won't understand you had too be there back in 03 too see this show from the beginning every Saturday morning was intense I'm 24 now and still get that same feel whenever I watch it!!!
Ch'rell, 2003 Oroku Saki, and 2012 Oroku Saki are in my opinion the greatest Shredders in the TMNT franchise.
Agreed. Though I lean more towards 2012
@@firewarrior8298 I can respect that.
Ch'rell and 2003 Oroku Saki The Tengu Shredder and 2003 other Shredders form Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 TV Series are best cartoon Shredder and are 2014 Movie/Out Of The Shadows 2016 movie The Shredder Ch'rell and 2003 Oroku Saki The Tengu Shredder are my opinion the greatest Shredders in the TMNT Franchise.
2012 Oroku Saki is not the greatest Shredder. 2012 Oroku Saki is an ok Shredder.
@@firewarrior8298 2012 Shredder is pathetic. Just a delusional man who is obsessed with a married woman and her daughter.
This show made me take an invading army of space dinosaurs seriously. That alone is impressive.
Another thing that makes this Shredder great is that he has very ambitious goals like he doesn't just want to take over the world, he wants to take over the Universe and the Multiverse
It's kinda funny to think that the guardian guy, the one from the plot hole. Is that one guy who snuck away to use the bathroom just as the Utroms where telling everyone who the shredder was. And somehow never caught on after.
To this day I still legit imagine the Sword of Tengu be something ANY version of Shredder should have now because of the 2003 Shredder.
I wish Ch'rell the Utrom Shredder's spirt can merge with the Real Oroku Saki's soul and The The Shredder Tengu's soul already merged with The Real Oroku Saki's Spirt. That still be 2003 Shredder.
Utrom Shredder: The most psychotic.
Tengu/Demon Shredder: The most powerful.
Karai as Shredder: The most perplexing and tragic.
Cyber Shredder: The most resourceful and driven.
This series of TMNT is severely underrated.
I see I have come across the lore master of the 2003 TMNT series. My favorite iteration. This series sure got dark especially for a show aimed towards kids.
And as a kid I appreciated every minute of it
This version of shredder is what shredder is supposed to be, especially his portrayal in season 1. They did his character justice rightfully showing him as a merciless and highly intelligent warrior. This shredder is what the leader of the ruthless foot clan ninjas, the ones responsible for almost half the bad shit happening in the world, should look like.
The 2003 version has the biggest and most complex story, ranging from thousands of years before the present, till hundred years later, basically i really like the ancient and mystical plot with outher alien races
I love how The Utrom Shredder basically created His greatest enemies on accident
The reason this awesome show is overlooked is simply because it ain't the 1987 cartoon.
And even though he was posessed by a Tengu, I'm glad we still got a human Oroku Saki/Shredder in this series.
Teddy Beer people really only talk about the 1987 or the newest show in progress
The 2012 TMNT series shredder the best version of the shredder because ninja turtles fans have more or less been in love with the legend of the shredder than the actual character. The 2012 series actually gave us a dive into the shredders character and his motivations.
Yes many people love to oversee 2012 shedders character
He's by far the most unique shredder and the best shredder
I love the Utrom Shredder most cause he had a long moment in the episode beside the other Shredders.But that's my opinion
CODY SHARP JASON JR HE LOVES HIS OWN 4 SHREDDER CLONES FROM THE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE
THE NIGHTMARE SHEREDDER TENGU DEMON SHREDDER MEGA SHREDDER AND THE MECHANICAL LEGENDARY EVIL VILLAIN THE CYBER SHREDDER
Ha! You though you defeated me? I'm back again after 128 fake deaths!
Lmao
Best thing about TMNT 2003 was that they didnt take away the grossness like the mutants, Utroms biomechanical science or the fact people actually died in these series.
I truly loved the 2003 TMNT which was more faithful to the Mirage comic stories. It was like the stories was just copy and paste on in the animated series. I had to say that The Shredder AKA Ch'rell was truly the best thing that happened to that show and in my opinion one of the best Shredder. I guess that surprised twist of him being a Utrom was to try something different and to catch the fans/viewers off guard because in the Mirage comics he didn't last that long. Are you going to do Top 10 TMNT 2003 Episodes [ Season 7].
Utrom Shredder is one dangerous foe and is one of my favorite fictional villains ever. Ruthless till the end! Especially the Demon Shredder, he's pretty wild.
Best TMNT ever made. The most dope looking Shredder
The first 03 Shredder was the most maniacal version ever, even compared to the scary looking shredder in 2012. 2012 was just as bad but 03 had no remorse for Karai, he just use their loyalty and end them if they either betrayed him or failed him (poor stockman). Brutal to the Squshy core.
I still remember "that" quote.
"Those how are not with me are against me!" "And I crush anyone who stands against me!
But still, he was a total BadAss.
2003 Shredder is one of the best villains ever, also his voice and theme is awesome
Utrom shredder may not be the original but he earned the title, he caused many atrocities across the galaxy, survived death many times he is worthy of the title
*TO ME, CH'RELL WILL ALWAYS BE THE DEFINITIVE SHREDDER*
I almost cried when Hamato came back and saved the Turtles and saying goodbye to Splinter. It was so good.
I love how the 80s turtles beat Shredder prime by throwing junk at him...
Ch'rell didn't kill the smiths of the Sword of Tengu, they're just severely injured. They're seen getting up after getting blasted.
I plan on 3D printing the Sword of Tengu and getting a real Ronin blade for the hilt. The 3D printed Sword of Tengu can be found on Etsy.
Ah...this was refreshing! As a long time shredder fan, I'm glad someone took the time to discuss the 2003 series version! I don't have a fave as I love them ALL!
So cyber would’ve been like the joker’s return in batman beyond movie
Nice video, man! Best animated TMNT series there is, and that's coming from someone who grew up with the original '80s series.
Best *TMNT* series ever
I hope you guys enjoyed this video, and I hope some of my 2003 series lovers appreciated this one! Foot Elite Tomei... Welcome back! :D
Thank u!!!
😁
What one haha
Leonardo 2003 will you do top 10 best season 5 episodes of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003)?
Yes soon
Anyone remember that chilling theme that played when the shredder came on screen that was one reason that's made me love the 2003 shredders so much
If you think about it, Shredder is actually just a freakishly amazing ace pilot.
By far the greatest series not only in tmnt universe, but overall
Wow i just realized how much about the 2003 series I didn't know. It's been my favourite turtles series form what I did watch and now knowing all this just makes it my favourite series even more! Thanks you making this video
''how many shredders are there?''
then comes a depressing voice ''this many'' xD
no disrespect, just found funny hahaha
So happy this was in my recommended. This was my favourite show growing up and I had a box set of episodes I watched for a long ass time. Shredder was and still is my favourite character in all cartoons, he was just so fucking cool and now this video gave me a full rundown of his backstory that just makes me love him even more. This show is to me the perfect version of Tmnt, even though I never saw every single season. Great video
OMG why the hell nobody ever talk about the 03 series? It's clearly the best. Oh also season4 ep13 changed Leonardo's LIFE!!!!
This was one of the series i remember watching growing up. Oh the nostalgia...
I think alien shredder is my favorite he scares the hell out of me and his the most unique one in the 2003 tmnt not physically the most powerful one but I still love ❤ him
The main reason i see the 2003 series as the best TMNT show out there is because it keeps to the source material while all the other shows yes even the loved 1980's show just make up their own shit for the story about the turtles while the 2003 show keeps to the comic's source material just like the first live action movie did back in 1990.
Exactly why I love 03. It paid tribute to the comics!
umm 2012 does that ,too. and plus.that`s doing something new.
You're Shredder, he's Shredder, she's Shredder... *I'M SHREDDER!!!*
Are there any other Shredders I should know about??
_::Cat walks in wearing a Shredder kabuto and meows in a dark tone::_
THAT'S IT, I'm out!
Mashimi did join the Guardians as Yoshi did, but he became jealous because Yoshi was advancing in the guardians, and he had also earned the love of Tang Shen. Mashimi let his jealousy consume him causing him to betray his best friend by joining the foot clan, murdering Tang Shen, and leading an attack on the Utrom's base of operation.
Yes indeed, I misspoke at that point!
ua-cam.com/video/SvMCLuRIYhw/v-deo.html shredder great quotes
*slaps TMNT 2003*
This cartoon can fit so much action and Shredders in it.
This show needs to come back it was soo good and had so much more to give,and the world building was the most underrated part od it
And with the Original Artstyle.
I wonder how Japan in this series feels about Oroku saki, given that he has lived for so long and he modeled himself after a mythical being.
one of my favorite things about "the shredder steikes back" is the cruel brilliance of the shredder's plan
isolate, exhaust and cripple their greatest warrior, and instead of finishing him off send him back to the turtles so that he can be burden that hinders their escape as he attacks en mass
14:35 GO GO, SHREDDER RANGERS!
This is a really informative video. Thank
*YOOOOOOOooooo*
for making it.
while demon shedder was originally titan sized demon then possess the real Oroku Saki to ,because the original shedder , as a result of being a demon he can shape--shift into a dragon.
The utrom shredder was the best of all shredders in tmnt history ✌️😎👍
Lets have a shredder vs predator crossover
Ch'rell is still my favorite dark, serious, evil(even Karai was another pawn in his game, although he did treat her slightly better when she was loyal) although some would argue his being an utrom ruined his character i felt that it made it more awesome as it was a loophole they could exploit to do dark and violent things to him while still keeping it kid friendly
2003 shredder radiated MAD black Air Force energy fr
Shredder history is worth talk about he was so important to the show for real.
I loved when they faced the utrom shredder during the time crisis in Fast Forward, see the thing was it was a version of him from just after master splinter beat him the first time by dropping a water tower on him, so the earliest version of their arch enemy faced the latest version of them, and they basically kicked his ass with barely any effort, they basically treated him as a joke, even saying "you're history".
One theory is that he thought the Ultron himself was in the head and so they might have cut them in half and that he had changed it so he'd have more Direct Control as opposed to sticking to the original design
How crazy was Ninja Turtles some ones asks...
Let me tell you something about ninjas turning into dragons like in mortal kombat, time travel, traveling to different realities/dimensions and the ninja turtles becoming dragons themselves. also starwars battles cause why not. So cheesy, bonkers & awesome.
yeah i really loved that show. and I really appreciated how they treated shredder and made him look dangerous and intimidating. but i kinda didnt appreciate the reveal that he was an utrom
I was more ocd about the show being so different from the old one back then, and though I mostly got over it, making Shredder and Krang basically the same character in the 2003 series still doesn't quite sit right.
Great vid man! I loved how you analyzed Shredder in great detail! Still waiting for more.
This is my favorite Animated show of all time
Good job dude, you had nicely presented that hole story that has excelent plot twist, with all that worlds, dimensions and characters that turtles met. Really good job for putting that huge story all together.👍