So annoying when that happens. They will proceed to just clear the jungle first and let the towers get damaged and also lose potential gold from the minions. I even sometimes spam the ping to clear the minion wave when things like that happen. 😆
@@Nathan0910 What Rank are you? its just common to prioritize the tower first rather than farming in the jungle cuz its not only for defending but to get the experience and gold thats the main point. Its basic in a high level rank in global also
@@godofterror000 I agree,I play unite before HoK and tanks in that game are broken as they can tank hits,deal damage and CC.This is why I had a personal vendetta against tanks,they can do offense and defense well
I've tried tank Yao after you made a video about it and from my experience, it's SITUATIONAL at best. In other words, his dmg build is still superior. There were even times when i REGRET using tank build and it made me lose on otherwise easy games. The whole point of tank build is flipping out any bad matchups. For example, against a team comp full of Yao counters like Liang, Consort Yu, and Liu Shan, the tank build makes him pretty much unkillable and bought enough time for your team to arrive and win the teamfight. HOWEVER, there are several weak points to it. For one, if your heroes aren't an actual tank or beefy fighters, tank build actually DELAYS your power spike later than with dmg build. The other thing is the lack of dmg especially if you're using it on backline divers like Han Xin and Yao. Lastly, which still ties to previous ones, you'll be more dependent on your team for dishing out dmg (which means you can't carry fights on your own).
@kyouitv Yeah, after too many close games and me throwing because of tank build, i abandoned it and just use dmg build on Yao in almost every games. The last time i used tank build on him was when i faced 4 of his counters at the same time but my team had 2 hyper carries in Marco and Gan&Mo, so i just played as a CC bait + initiator for my team. Other than that, i mostly rushed Pure Sky or Bloodrage as 3rd item (i AWLAYS finish the tier 3 jungling item as my 2nd item) to help deal with any counters which, funnily enough, happened in 7 out of 10 games (the amount of Liang insta-picks on enemies after my pick were absurd xD)
It's situational i would say? , if your enemies have too many cc hero using damage is too risky especially if they have liang or donghuang, i usually use damage build when enemy line up is full of squishy hero
I've said this before, but i'll say it again; HoK's tank build "meta" is still pretty tame and manageable. As someone who went through YEARS of misery of tank build taking over MLBB, the one in HoK is piece-of-cake. For one, HoK's marksmen still dish out respectable dmg even in early game, so most tanky heroes still have to play more carefully. Another factor is the slower jungling speed when using tank build, which also means slower rotation speed. Last but not least, aside from select few, most tank build users couldn't carry fights on their own
@@lugh0_0 He still has A LOT of hindering issues, but yes, he'll have better chances at winning fights when 3 out of 5 enemy heroes didn't have 7000+ HP at the 7 min mark
the needed to finished the animation before able to using another skills instantly is cursed and also with the same item equivalent build his 2nd skill enhanced BA could have deal 4000+ crit damage
Its so ridiculous. I wonder what the chinese community thinks of this tank meta I just wish they get rid of it soon, it makes the game so annoying and unfair not only they have annoying skills but can tank everything you throw and kill you
See how this jungler prioritized protecting tower first before farm? I wish that was meta in global aswell. 😂
So annoying when that happens.
They will proceed to just clear the jungle first and let the towers get damaged and also lose potential gold from the minions.
I even sometimes spam the ping to clear the minion wave when things like that happen. 😆
@@Nathan0910 What Rank are you? its just common to prioritize the tower first rather than farming in the jungle cuz its not only for defending but to get the experience and gold thats the main point. Its basic in a high level rank in global also
As long the damage in the meta doesn't Rip Tanks or tanky fighters in a sec,I honestly prefer damage meta than tank meta
You also dont want anyone tanky doing any one shotting
They should increase the defences of tanks but lower there dmg
Some tanks and supports do more dmg then the hero they are protecting
@@godofterror000 I agree,I play unite before HoK and tanks in that game are broken as they can tank hits,deal damage and CC.This is why I had a personal vendetta against tanks,they can do offense and defense well
Pokemon unite? What heroes there are tanky and broken?
@@princesszelda8577 Well, Mainly Slowbro, Umbreon and Trevanant,they are not be meta rn,but they are broken in their own right
I've tried tank Yao after you made a video about it and from my experience, it's SITUATIONAL at best. In other words, his dmg build is still superior. There were even times when i REGRET using tank build and it made me lose on otherwise easy games.
The whole point of tank build is flipping out any bad matchups. For example, against a team comp full of Yao counters like Liang, Consort Yu, and Liu Shan, the tank build makes him pretty much unkillable and bought enough time for your team to arrive and win the teamfight.
HOWEVER, there are several weak points to it. For one, if your heroes aren't an actual tank or beefy fighters, tank build actually DELAYS your power spike later than with dmg build. The other thing is the lack of dmg especially if you're using it on backline divers like Han Xin and Yao. Lastly, which still ties to previous ones, you'll be more dependent on your team for dishing out dmg (which means you can't carry fights on your own).
yup
some of those tanky fighters are just somewhat situational
usually depends on the matchup and team lineup
@kyouitv Yeah, after too many close games and me throwing because of tank build, i abandoned it and just use dmg build on Yao in almost every games.
The last time i used tank build on him was when i faced 4 of his counters at the same time but my team had 2 hyper carries in Marco and Gan&Mo, so i just played as a CC bait + initiator for my team.
Other than that, i mostly rushed Pure Sky or Bloodrage as 3rd item (i AWLAYS finish the tier 3 jungling item as my 2nd item) to help deal with any counters which, funnily enough, happened in 7 out of 10 games (the amount of Liang insta-picks on enemies after my pick were absurd xD)
Damn this build legit as hell, tried it on my rank today. Gotta throw the tank build now
It's situational i would say? , if your enemies have too many cc hero using damage is too risky especially if they have liang or donghuang, i usually use damage build when enemy line up is full of squishy hero
@@sandis7674 well tanks can't even handle too much CC either
I think it's because you can clear minions and camps faster to rotate for the next tower push/defense. That's the main advantage I can see.
a wise man once said: offense is the best defense
I've said this before, but i'll say it again; HoK's tank build "meta" is still pretty tame and manageable. As someone who went through YEARS of misery of tank build taking over MLBB, the one in HoK is piece-of-cake.
For one, HoK's marksmen still dish out respectable dmg even in early game, so most tanky heroes still have to play more carefully. Another factor is the slower jungling speed when using tank build, which also means slower rotation speed. Last but not least, aside from select few, most tank build users couldn't carry fights on their own
I played 4 years in dota, almost all hardcarry are unkillable in late and ppl complaining about hok tank "meta" xD
The problem in HOK is all heroes build tank items from marksman, to assassin, to mages literally that's how desperate to win
they need to nerf the items of something i cant stand this meta anymore..
can you make a tier list hehe
If tank meta is over Sima Yi should have an easier time now no? Jungle sima yo that is Midlane is garbage for a whole other reason
@@lugh0_0 He still has A LOT of hindering issues, but yes, he'll have better chances at winning fights when 3 out of 5 enemy heroes didn't have 7000+ HP at the 7 min mark
man only if he has the same mobility and damge as Nakroth in Aov i would play him almost all the time
the needed to finished the animation before able to using another skills instantly is cursed and also with the same item equivalent build his 2nd skill enhanced BA could have deal 4000+ crit damage
I just follow the "having fun" meta . . so whatever looks like a bad idea to me I'll probably end up playing it
BISAKOL
Its so ridiculous. I wonder what the chinese community thinks of this tank meta
I just wish they get rid of it soon, it makes the game so annoying and unfair not only they have annoying skills but can tank everything you throw and kill you
What is your highest rank?
I don't usually grind that much
@@kyouitv But what's the most stars you have?
@@SHR_ValentinoHOK reached legend
@@kyouitv wow nice, thanks!
Well didnt tank items get nerfed in China?
Probably
Are you sure cause 100% Han Xin used in KPL are all tank builds
Well maybe Comp meta and rank meta are different
it's actually different
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