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Except I feel even "Shame" as an emotion has a positive function. It's when we STOP feeling Shame or manage to ignore it that we truly become terrible people. THOUGH like Anxiety or all the other emotions we CAN let it get too far, or become mistplaced. Shame to me would be closer to Embarassament or Disgust....
I feel that embarasment is actually also shame in some kind of way. The reason why he went against anxiety is because he felt so embarrased for what they made Riley do to her friends. He was looking at one memory where she got sarcastic and acted like "get up and glow" was so lame infront of her friends and kept acting like a jerk to them. When you're embarrassed for what you did, you are technically embarrased. Because he felt bad avout it and recognized the error, he tried to save the day in a very subtle way.
@@elephantmarch Malice could be an exception. IMO there should always be an exception when it comes to antagonists in franchises. When most of them are nuanced and sympathetic. Having a villain who stands out by being evil is something that would make the story be more interesting
I'm glad they deleted that scene, cause that sounds really harsh for Riley and Joy and her friends do not want her to be depressed and that sounds really sad.
Riley is in the early stage of teenage, so i think it`s a bit too early to be mentioned Shame as main feeling/character ... just in my opinion that`s all
And for younger viewers, as in 9 year olds. Though they might not be shown the movie for the puberty thang, a child might still be shown this movie, and Shame might be too rough or risky.
I agree, but sometimes we need that harsh moments like that to help ground people on the reality that we all have done some things that are shameful of. I think shame would have been a great idea for a villain emotion. But as a Christian sometimes shame can have that effect to where you realized your terrible mistakes that you have made. And I know I'm not perfect, I feel shame alot when I mess up in life. So in the end shame could have been a good example of a emotion that is an anti hero instead of a full on villain
Ikr, sharing that your friend stole her mom's credit card is much worse than sharing that your friend wet the bed as a teen, which they surely didn't do on purpose.
I’d say Inside Out three should deal with the much darker emotions and subject matter. Maybe Riley is 16 or 17 and her emotions start spiraling. Maybe trauma could be introduced and Shame could feel responsible for said trauma to happen, making Riley a complete mess. If anyone could deal with the subject of trauma, it’s Pixar.
As heavy as this would have been, this would have been an AMAZING movie villain to watch. It is wild to me to hear that some people don't experience shame though.
I think that is not all true, I think some people are either lucky to not experience shame or they are in denial of that they must have felt some guilt in their lives. Because everyone has felt shame at least twice in there life or more.
Yeah this version of shame wouldn’t have worked as well for the vibes of this movie. I think Anxiety was spot on, but big mouth did shame wizard very well
What about an emotion known as Malice (the EVIL one)? Malice would be a villain emotion that tries to corrupt Riley as a person, and while the other emotions would at first think Malice could be useful, they would slowly realize throughout the film that you can't befriend everyone and that some individuals out there are just irredeemable monsters.
I'm not an expert or psychologist, but with your idea they will run into the issue that Riley would consequently suffer of a disorder like narcissicm or sociopathy in order to actually get to the point where an emotion like Malice would outsmart all of the other emotions. I think it is a little far fetched, tbh.
@@buddytheoc well, we have outside in, the parody where joy goes insane and controls Riley while corrupting the console and possessing her, so this isn't out of the realm of possibility
I'm not sure this works. The purpose of shame is to make you feel bad about something so you don't repeat it. You know, as long as your aware that the specific incident is the thing to be ashamed of and not yourself in general. The way the ending is described makes me think were only aware of the self loathing kind of shame.
Honestly, I think it’s for the best. They deleted this. The first film makes it clear that every emotion has its purpose, no matter how much it may suck to deal with them from time to time, so having an emotion be actually evil would kind of undermined that idea
I feel Shame would have worked if it was focused on as a social emotion. Shame does have an important role in our lives- it causes people to be receptive to feedback from others. But when shame controls someone's life, they lose all forms of autonomy and seek guidance from people who wouldn't know them as well as they know themselves or even have bad intentions. That would be a compelling story: Shame would cause Riley to blindly allow others to control her actions and take any form of criticism as absolute truth, which would cause her to object to what the other emotions think Riley is and take on a more antagonistic role.
4:43 Deep Dark Secret’s line “We burn hole in rug” was originally going to be “We have a crush on Val” before it was changed, yet you can tell from the mouth movement of what the original line was going to be.
I think if they're going to use this concept in the third movie instead of making her an emotion make her an external Factor the deep dark voice inside your head making her an actual villain without taking away the lesson from the first and second movie where they make it very clear that every emotion has a purpose and at the end of the day just once the best for Riley
I definitely feel like they made the right decision. The idea that every emotion can be positive or negative is a very good thing to display. The first movie did an excellent job showing that sadness, how often seen in a negative light by your own self, is important for the well-being. At the time of writing this comment, I can't really think of a positive thing that shame can do to the psyche.
Shame is supposed to convict you of something you did wrong, to encourage you not to do it again. THIS version of "self hatred negativity villain" has no beneficial characteristics at all so I'm glad they scrapped it if that's where they were going with the idea
She wouldve been a good callback to older disney, where they have a real villain, as well as actually giving Shame a good death scene as well, go back to destroying the bad guy
Oh, like similar to Big Jack Horner? Yah, I agree, we should have a villain emotion known as Malice that the main characters slowly realize is an irredeemable douche bag who needs to be obliterated!
3:50 we've all experienced shame at some point in our lives. at least that's what i believe. how do you tell it apart from embarrassment, though? both emotions make you feel bad about what you did, saying you screwed up, although shame seems to be more severe, putting yourself down. i tend to put myself down quite a bit so that i can "be better", and while that does work sometimes, i can also do it to some extreme degrees where i think to myself, 'what's the point in trying'? but yeah, the 'never have i ever' scene feels harder to watch than riley's panic attack somehow.
I think removing that scene was a good idea, but oddly enough you can look to big mouth for a good idea of how to humanize shame. Shame steps up when we’ve done something truly awful to let us know not to do that. She’d be interesting in a future film to teach joy sometimes she has to let emotions actually hurt Riley in order for her to not be awful. Maybe have a sequel where shame arrives, hurts Riley over something fairly minor, everyone agrees she’s too much and she’s barred from HQ. With an absence of Shame Riley becomes an out of control teenager, stealing and just being awful. All her emotions try to stop her but they can’t. Joy goes looking for shame, and bring her back to headquarters. Shame asks are you sure? You’ve let her go so far, she’s too far gone for me to fix this easily… you won’t be able to help her for some time. They agree and shame steps in, really letting Riley have it. Turning the console black again, then walks away. Joy asks her wait, aren’t you going to change it back now? Shame says no. She needs to sit with this for a while. We see Riley suffering from depression for a couple days before finally disgust is able to move the console a little. Joy steps in to help her and together they can steer Riley to undo the bad she’s done. End with Riley saying “we still love our girl, but sometimes she needs to deal with things that hurt her in order to stay on track.”
Envy is ment to kinda inspire. You envy someone for being a good artist or veing awsome as a singer. So you look up to them and want to be like them and jave a goal to reach. Or maybe yiu envy someone for being brave while you yourself is a coward. But it can get really bad to the point that it becomes jealousy. Jealously isnt just envy. You DON'T look up to somone. You actualy end up despising the person that is better than you or has something you dont have. Sure envy is basicly jealousy, but the difference is that envy is much more positive as it requires you to have some sort of adoration like a child would when they see their mom painting their nails or their older brother being a cool skater boy. They are jealous about it, but its all good.
Envy isn’t well represented in Inside out. I would describe her better as admiration. Envy is disliking someone because of something that they have while jealousy is being rude or hostile to someone because of something they have.
Thank god that scene got deleted and replaced with Riley becoming a Firehawk and having friends at the end of the movie. This deleted ending was a cliffhanger.
4:52 There is Lust character on the bottom, so it shows there is a possibility the movie production does have an intention to mention about lust/sexual related desire. But since Riley is just a 13 y.o. kid in the 2nd movie so i feel relieve they did not mention about it
I feel like that would have been a very interesting and great way to portray shame. They should have shame as an emotion for a future movie, short or special. Like say a disney short episode of that deleted scene. Plus I think it would be educational and good for kids to understand of how to handle shame in their life's. Because shame can really weigh you down if you can't find the self compassion to fight back the harmful words to yourself as well as help you be more aware of your harmful actions towards others
I feel like Pride could be a reluctant hero or an antihero next time. Anxiety, Envy and Embarrassment are components of Shame anyway. Either Pride could keep showing up when not needed and rub everyone else’s faults in their face, or refuse to show up until Riley earns it, which she does by developing an empathy island.
I feel that -*both* the deleted ending AND the final ending should've been merged together in use, as that would be the first step to making the deleted ending work better. Then you'd have Anxiety, Embarrassment, Envy (and Ennui, ironically) ally with the other emotions to try to restore order, showing Anxiety and Joy reconciling. This could work...
I think they made the right decision, I also think that this gives more depth to each emotion and we don't just have a bunch of emotions making a single emotion each.
Shame being the antagonist gives me anxiety (no pun intended). And yeah Grace and Riley taking jabs at each other is a low blow but teenagers do that sometimes.
Eliminating Shame from the movie and splitting some of those issues into several other characters was the right call. Thirteen year olds can feel shame, but shame is a feeling that tends to be manipulated by forces and people from outside the self; and this movie was more what was inside Riley.
Honestly, I would’ve loved to see a unredeemable emotion in headquarters because there are definitely emotions that people do not want to be experiencing for their own mental health some of them aren’t really emotions, per se, but more states of being but hey, Joy is a state of being and she was the first one to appear sure she was pretty much just happiness throughout the entire franchise until the end, but at the end, she truly became joy but Riley has clearly been able to feel emotions that aren’t present in headquarters And she clearly did have debility of feeling embarrassed before the big guy showed up But anxiety and the others had baggage they had stuff to put places implying that they were in Riley’s mind somewhere and they all don’t have to manifest in headquarters and there might be different sub areas of headquarters with different consoles but if all those emotions were already there and they thinking that moment Riley did feel like she was a pretty horrible person It is a funny thought to think that nostalgia was probably holding Shame down in her lair and if that was the case, what kind of crazy abilities does that lady have?
TBH, Out of all the opinions ive heard on this Shame scene, i think shed be a good placement in the third movie. Ususlly when you turn older and older, you tend to be even more shameful of your actions, usually ends up you becoming depressed. Shame being the villian in Inside Out 3 would be an excellent plot story, now knowing that Anxiety already took her part. Hopefully Mann wont make her a very very bad villian, hopefully she can be defeated and she will finally love Riley. I don't know much about emotions and stuff. I tried my best to state my opinion
Even though Pixar deleted Shame from the final movie, I think they could still save her design for a future movie. She obviously wouldn't work for an _Inside Out_ movie since the point of emotions is they're all valid; however, Shame's design is FIRE for a fantasy villain!
Shame should have been the character for the sequel. If they're gonna do the "every emotion can benefit us in a certain way" thing, then there are no need for sequels... It would just be copy and paste of the first movie over and over again. We also need to learn that hey, as much as emotions can benefit, some can also destroy... That's just a part of life. So for me, I personally think that its a bit dellusional to write out emotions that people very much experience because it doesn't fit a narrative. Nevertheless, bad emotions can help too, it cautions us from doing bad things. Also inside out 2 was lacking a lot of newer positive emotions. Enjoyable regardless, but I would have preferred Shame.
I'm glad that this didn't happen. Bad enough, they're trying to villify anxiety for basically being another sadness. NO EMOTION should be vilified. ESPECIALLY in a kids show or movie. That's HORRIBLE messaging for children. It's why I hate the direction of inside out 2 compared to 1. We got the whole cut copy pasted arc from sadness tacked onto anxiety without the climax teaching us that anxiety is NEEDED like they did with sadness. We had moments of her showing that she could even be more capable and forward thinking than JOY and yet by the end, they're shoving her in a corner to distract her from herself. She feels TAMED, not accepted
There needs to be a more deep villain we got some of it in anxiety, which I enjoyed very much if there were to be a third movie which could probably work. I would like to see a villain like shame.
I liked this ending better. the final movie was missing something. the kick in the solar plexus. it got dark but it didn't have that gut punch moment that the S tier pixar films have. this movie was all about formative memories, well toy story 3, soul, up, onward, finding nemo and the first inside out, those WERE formative memories for so many people because they didn't play it safe because some squishy new age psychologist said that shame can be damaging. yes too much shame can cause bad self image but shame is one of the forces that turns formative memories into beliefs. its something people NEED. and anyone listening to that is going to grow into a spineless moralless blob of jelly who believes nothing and stands for nothing
My parents and I saw insideout 2. When it frist was released in theaters but we had fallen asleep and missed half the movie I know that insideout 2 got a blu-ray release on septemeber 10 th if I ever buy that I’ll pay more attention to the movie
I'm gona be honest... Since Sadness and Emberassment seemed romanticly interested in each other, I have a feeling/idea (not theory) that their kid -if it's possible such a thing- should be Shame....😮
What do you think of this alternate ending & the character Shame?
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If they changed a bit of things, I would wish this movie would be the inside out 3 movie
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Except I feel even "Shame" as an emotion has a positive function. It's when we STOP feeling Shame or manage to ignore it that we truly become terrible people. THOUGH like Anxiety or all the other emotions we CAN let it get too far, or become mistplaced. Shame to me would be closer to Embarassament or Disgust....
Okay, but a Malice emotion would literally be a manifestation of evilness and could make for a great Inside Out villain!
@@bugonboris6681 Yes, but it'd run counter to what the point of the Inside Out films are:No emotion is BAD... just can go too far in one direction...
I feel that embarasment is actually also shame in some kind of way. The reason why he went against anxiety is because he felt so embarrased for what they made Riley do to her friends. He was looking at one memory where she got sarcastic and acted like "get up and glow" was so lame infront of her friends and kept acting like a jerk to them. When you're embarrassed for what you did, you are technically embarrased. Because he felt bad avout it and recognized the error, he tried to save the day in a very subtle way.
@@elephantmarch Malice could be an exception. IMO there should always be an exception when it comes to antagonists in franchises. When most of them are nuanced and sympathetic. Having a villain who stands out by being evil is something that would make the story be more interesting
Yeah, Shame is literally an emotion that allows us to be a social species
I'm glad they deleted that scene, cause that sounds really harsh for Riley and Joy and her friends do not want her to be depressed and that sounds really sad.
Yeah, because from the first movie we learn that all emotions are important, no matter how small their roles are.
Riley is in the early stage of teenage, so i think it`s a bit too early to be mentioned Shame as main feeling/character ... just in my opinion that`s all
I really think they could have pulled it off because teens will always come to a harsh reality at some point
And for younger viewers, as in 9 year olds. Though they might not be shown the movie for the puberty thang, a child might still be shown this movie, and Shame might be too rough or risky.
I agree, but sometimes we need that harsh moments like that to help ground people on the reality that we all have done some things that are shameful of. I think shame would have been a great idea for a villain emotion. But as a Christian sometimes shame can have that effect to where you realized your terrible mistakes that you have made. And I know I'm not perfect, I feel shame alot when I mess up in life. So in the end shame could have been a good example of a emotion that is an anti hero instead of a full on villain
Riley’s friends are such hypocrites in this ending, yikes! 😬
That’s what I’m saying bro
for real, because she revealed embarrassing secrets about Riley, but yet she and everyone else gets mad at Riley for sharing one secret about her
grace: *shares embarrassing secrets of riley*
riley: *does the same*
everyone: HOW COULD YOU DO THAT???
I agree that is a yikes 😬
Ikr, sharing that your friend stole her mom's credit card is much worse than sharing that your friend wet the bed as a teen, which they surely didn't do on purpose.
I’d say Inside Out three should deal with the much darker emotions and subject matter. Maybe Riley is 16 or 17 and her emotions start spiraling.
Maybe trauma could be introduced and Shame could feel responsible for said trauma to happen, making Riley a complete mess.
If anyone could deal with the subject of trauma, it’s Pixar.
You know that sounds like a great idea
You could really have shame not like an emotion but like a much more powerful entity, Slowly pulling all of the emotions and mindworkers on her side
While I get what you're saying, I doubt it will happen as that would probably be a bit much for the target audience.
As heavy as this would have been, this would have been an AMAZING movie villain to watch.
It is wild to me to hear that some people don't experience shame though.
I think that is not all true, I think some people are either lucky to not experience shame or they are in denial of that they must have felt some guilt in their lives. Because everyone has felt shame at least twice in there life or more.
Yeah this version of shame wouldn’t have worked as well for the vibes of this movie. I think Anxiety was spot on, but big mouth did shame wizard very well
What about an emotion known as Malice (the EVIL one)? Malice would be a villain emotion that tries to corrupt Riley as a person, and while the other emotions would at first think Malice could be useful, they would slowly realize throughout the film that you can't befriend everyone and that some individuals out there are just irredeemable monsters.
I'm not an expert or psychologist, but with your idea they will run into the issue that Riley would consequently suffer of a disorder like narcissicm or sociopathy in order to actually get to the point where an emotion like Malice would outsmart all of the other emotions. I think it is a little far fetched, tbh.
@@buddytheoc well, we have outside in, the parody where joy goes insane and controls Riley while corrupting the console and possessing her, so this isn't out of the realm of possibility
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I understand where the scenes are coming from, great direction and story. But I see why she was cut/retooled. Damn.
This could be good for a middle scene in Inside Out 3!
I'm not sure this works. The purpose of shame is to make you feel bad about something so you don't repeat it. You know, as long as your aware that the specific incident is the thing to be ashamed of and not yourself in general. The way the ending is described makes me think were only aware of the self loathing kind of shame.
Honestly, I think it’s for the best. They deleted this. The first film makes it clear that every emotion has its purpose, no matter how much it may suck to deal with them from time to time, so having an emotion be actually evil would kind of undermined that idea
I feel Shame would have worked if it was focused on as a social emotion. Shame does have an important role in our lives- it causes people to be receptive to feedback from others. But when shame controls someone's life, they lose all forms of autonomy and seek guidance from people who wouldn't know them as well as they know themselves or even have bad intentions.
That would be a compelling story: Shame would cause Riley to blindly allow others to control her actions and take any form of criticism as absolute truth, which would cause her to object to what the other emotions think Riley is and take on a more antagonistic role.
4:43 Deep Dark Secret’s line “We burn hole in rug” was originally going to be “We have a crush on Val” before it was changed, yet you can tell from the mouth movement of what the original line was going to be.
Interesting
Anxiety attack worked a lot better than a swirl of shame.
Glad they changed it. The Movie was good as it was.
I think if they're going to use this concept in the third movie instead of making her an emotion make her an external Factor the deep dark voice inside your head making her an actual villain without taking away the lesson from the first and second movie where they make it very clear that every emotion has a purpose and at the end of the day just once the best for Riley
I want shame in inside out 3
Same here.
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I definitely feel like they made the right decision. The idea that every emotion can be positive or negative is a very good thing to display. The first movie did an excellent job showing that sadness, how often seen in a negative light by your own self, is important for the well-being. At the time of writing this comment, I can't really think of a positive thing that shame can do to the psyche.
Shame is supposed to convict you of something you did wrong, to encourage you not to do it again.
THIS version of "self hatred negativity villain" has no beneficial characteristics at all so I'm glad they scrapped it if that's where they were going with the idea
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I would like that version with shame
She wouldve been a good callback to older disney, where they have a real villain, as well as actually giving Shame a good death scene as well, go back to destroying the bad guy
Oh, like similar to Big Jack Horner? Yah, I agree, we should have a villain emotion known as Malice that the main characters slowly realize is an irredeemable douche bag who needs to be obliterated!
@@bugonboris6681 as a storyteller who punishes villains brutally, I agree
Except you can't really destroy an emotion
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 well, I mean, happiness gets destroyed when you turn 14
Never destroy shame. If you kill off shame, you will become a Karen because they never feel shame.
3:50 we've all experienced shame at some point in our lives. at least that's what i believe. how do you tell it apart from embarrassment, though? both emotions make you feel bad about what you did, saying you screwed up, although shame seems to be more severe, putting yourself down. i tend to put myself down quite a bit so that i can "be better", and while that does work sometimes, i can also do it to some extreme degrees where i think to myself, 'what's the point in trying'? but yeah, the 'never have i ever' scene feels harder to watch than riley's panic attack somehow.
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I think removing that scene was a good idea, but oddly enough you can look to big mouth for a good idea of how to humanize shame. Shame steps up when we’ve done something truly awful to let us know not to do that. She’d be interesting in a future film to teach joy sometimes she has to let emotions actually hurt Riley in order for her to not be awful. Maybe have a sequel where shame arrives, hurts Riley over something fairly minor, everyone agrees she’s too much and she’s barred from HQ. With an absence of Shame Riley becomes an out of control teenager, stealing and just being awful. All her emotions try to stop her but they can’t. Joy goes looking for shame, and bring her back to headquarters. Shame asks are you sure? You’ve let her go so far, she’s too far gone for me to fix this easily… you won’t be able to help her for some time. They agree and shame steps in, really letting Riley have it. Turning the console black again, then walks away. Joy asks her wait, aren’t you going to change it back now? Shame says no. She needs to sit with this for a while. We see Riley suffering from depression for a couple days before finally disgust is able to move the console a little. Joy steps in to help her and together they can steer Riley to undo the bad she’s done. End with Riley saying “we still love our girl, but sometimes she needs to deal with things that hurt her in order to stay on track.”
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I see that one of the original ideas for an emotion was jealously what the difference between Envy and Jealousy?
Envy is ment to kinda inspire. You envy someone for being a good artist or veing awsome as a singer. So you look up to them and want to be like them and jave a goal to reach. Or maybe yiu envy someone for being brave while you yourself is a coward. But it can get really bad to the point that it becomes jealousy. Jealously isnt just envy. You DON'T look up to somone. You actualy end up despising the person that is better than you or has something you dont have. Sure envy is basicly jealousy, but the difference is that envy is much more positive as it requires you to have some sort of adoration like a child would when they see their mom painting their nails or their older brother being a cool skater boy. They are jealous about it, but its all good.
Envy isn’t well represented in Inside out. I would describe her better as admiration. Envy is disliking someone because of something that they have while jealousy is being rude or hostile to someone because of something they have.
To quote Homer Simpson: "Jealousy is when you worry someone will take what you have, envy is when you want what someone else has."
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Thank god that scene got deleted and replaced with Riley becoming a Firehawk and having friends at the end of the movie. This deleted ending was a cliffhanger.
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I think that Shame would make a great villain for Inside Out 3.
Shame To Nostalgia
This is incredible
Shame is like anxiety but actually just tells her she is a shithead
4:52 There is Lust character on the bottom, so it shows there is a possibility the movie production does have an intention to mention about lust/sexual related desire. But since Riley is just a 13 y.o. kid in the 2nd movie so i feel relieve they did not mention about it
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I feel like that would have been a very interesting and great way to portray shame. They should have shame as an emotion for a future movie, short or special. Like say a disney short episode of that deleted scene. Plus I think it would be educational and good for kids to understand of how to handle shame in their life's. Because shame can really weigh you down if you can't find the self compassion to fight back the harmful words to yourself as well as help you be more aware of your harmful actions towards others
I feel like Pride could be a reluctant hero or an antihero next time. Anxiety, Envy and Embarrassment are components of Shame anyway. Either Pride could keep showing up when not needed and rub everyone else’s faults in their face, or refuse to show up until Riley earns it, which she does by developing an empathy island.
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I feel that -*both* the deleted ending AND the final ending should've been merged together in use, as that would be the first step to making the deleted ending work better. Then you'd have Anxiety, Embarrassment, Envy (and Ennui, ironically) ally with the other emotions to try to restore order, showing Anxiety and Joy reconciling. This could work...
I think they made the right decision, I also think that this gives more depth to each emotion and we don't just have a bunch of emotions making a single emotion each.
Shame being the antagonist gives me anxiety (no pun intended). And yeah Grace and Riley taking jabs at each other is a low blow but teenagers do that sometimes.
Eliminating Shame from the movie and splitting some of those issues into several other characters was the right call.
Thirteen year olds can feel shame, but shame is a feeling that tends to be manipulated by forces and people from outside the self; and this movie was more what was inside Riley.
Honestly, I would’ve loved to see a unredeemable emotion in headquarters because there are definitely emotions that people do not want to be experiencing for their own mental health some of them aren’t really emotions, per se, but more states of being but hey, Joy is a state of being and she was the first one to appear sure she was pretty much just happiness throughout the entire franchise until the end, but at the end, she truly became joy but Riley has clearly been able to feel emotions that aren’t present in headquarters And she clearly did have debility of feeling embarrassed before the big guy showed up But anxiety and the others had baggage they had stuff to put places implying that they were in Riley’s mind somewhere and they all don’t have to manifest in headquarters and there might be different sub areas of headquarters with different consoles but if all those emotions were already there and they thinking that moment Riley did feel like she was a pretty horrible person It is a funny thought to think that nostalgia was probably holding Shame down in her lair and if that was the case, what kind of crazy abilities does that lady have?
TBH, Out of all the opinions ive heard on this Shame scene, i think shed be a good placement in the third movie. Ususlly when you turn older and older, you tend to be even more shameful of your actions, usually ends up you becoming depressed. Shame being the villian in Inside Out 3 would be an excellent plot story, now knowing that Anxiety already took her part. Hopefully Mann wont make her a very very bad villian, hopefully she can be defeated and she will finally love Riley.
I don't know much about emotions and stuff. I tried my best to state my opinion
Even though Pixar deleted Shame from the final movie, I think they could still save her design for a future movie. She obviously wouldn't work for an _Inside Out_ movie since the point of emotions is they're all valid; however, Shame's design is FIRE for a fantasy villain!
Shame being able to bypass the console reminds me of a precursor to ennui's phone
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Honestly I always felt like inside out 2 felt more direct towards an older audience, but this og ending is definitely more like an adult ending
Shame will be in Inside Out 3 and probably Nostalgia will save Riley
This should be part 3, it fits the timeline better
Shame should have been the character for the sequel. If they're gonna do the "every emotion can benefit us in a certain way" thing, then there are no need for sequels... It would just be copy and paste of the first movie over and over again. We also need to learn that hey, as much as emotions can benefit, some can also destroy... That's just a part of life. So for me, I personally think that its a bit dellusional to write out emotions that people very much experience because it doesn't fit a narrative. Nevertheless, bad emotions can help too, it cautions us from doing bad things.
Also inside out 2 was lacking a lot of newer positive emotions. Enjoyable regardless, but I would have preferred Shame.
Watching this… could mean it’s possible that Shame could be the main villain in the next Inside Out sequel
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I'm glad that this didn't happen. Bad enough, they're trying to villify anxiety for basically being another sadness. NO EMOTION should be vilified. ESPECIALLY in a kids show or movie. That's HORRIBLE messaging for children. It's why I hate the direction of inside out 2 compared to 1. We got the whole cut copy pasted arc from sadness tacked onto anxiety without the climax teaching us that anxiety is NEEDED like they did with sadness. We had moments of her showing that she could even be more capable and forward thinking than JOY and yet by the end, they're shoving her in a corner to distract her from herself. She feels TAMED, not accepted
Amazing
The shame emotion definitely would've felt a bit too familiar for me
now i want shame in inside out 3.
I'm glad they cut out Shame because that scene was way too intense.
Shame is terrifying
There needs to be a more deep villain we got some of it in anxiety, which I enjoyed very much if there were to be a third movie which could probably work. I would like to see a villain like shame.
I really wish this was the inside out 3 movie, but just a bit more different
I liked this ending better. the final movie was missing something. the kick in the solar plexus. it got dark but it didn't have that gut punch moment that the S tier pixar films have. this movie was all about formative memories, well toy story 3, soul, up, onward, finding nemo and the first inside out, those WERE formative memories for so many people because they didn't play it safe because some squishy new age psychologist said that shame can be damaging. yes too much shame can cause bad self image but shame is one of the forces that turns formative memories into beliefs. its something people NEED. and anyone listening to that is going to grow into a spineless moralless blob of jelly who believes nothing and stands for nothing
I dont think "lust" will be in this in anytime
I would really like to see shame in 3 or 4
My parents and I saw insideout 2. When it frist was released in theaters but we had fallen asleep and missed half the movie I know that insideout 2 got a blu-ray release on septemeber 10 th if I ever buy that I’ll pay more attention to the movie
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I did not relate with this movie at all since there r different types of anxiety and not just one
There are also different types of anger. She's the embodiment of the emotion itself, not the cause or nuance of it
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I'm gona be honest... Since Sadness and Emberassment seemed romanticly interested in each other, I have a feeling/idea (not theory) that their kid -if it's possible such a thing- should be Shame....😮
THIS COULD BE WHEN RILEY IS AN ADULT
i feel like that would be a much better idea tbh,
I like this better
Lust was considered for one of the characters in the first movie? What kind of storyline did they want to go along with THAT....
This is interesting
I mean shame could’ve appeared
But not like that
Dont know why but I would have related alot more to the movie if shame was added.
I would have wanted shame in the sequel!
What took you so long??
Chronic health issues. :-)
I would like to see Shame she looks pretty
They need make this but knowing it’s gone be a R /15 rated being a form of a horror etc .
I feel like everyone kids movie is talking about anxiety it's really not as creative anymore because everyone is doing it