I have had one of these toilets in my RV for about three years now. So, it gets limited use. This past week, we used the RV trailer and the toilet would not flush. The air extraction motor would run, but the twist motor would not. No help from Dry Flush other than telling me how to determine if the problem was the circuit board or twist motor. So, I took the thing apart. Turns out the twist motor was seized due to rust. Really, rust...never wet but definitely a humid environment due to forgetting to put a tube of Damp Rid in the trailer when it was in storage for six months. I was able to free up the motor, lubricate it and reassemble. It works fine now, but for how long. lesson learned: test the flushing before heading out on a camping trip. What we did learn is that if the twist motor fails, you can simple twist it by hand via the black ring. And, yes, the cartridges are expensive. We get maybe 10 flushes before no more room in the bucket. Never run out of media, just space. And, once it gets above about half full, the action is not so great and usually requires more than one flush to capture all the liquid. But, I am keeping it...way better than having to deal with a black tank.
I'm with you. If you're not using it full time, it a system that I would rather have than the a black tank needing conditioner treatments, dump fees and just plain nasty dumping and cleaning the drain thingy. These are expenses to consider when complaining about dry flush costs. No thanks. In the five years I owned a 36' pusher coach, I think I used the toilet about 50 times and I really hated that the last thing do do after a great camping trip was to dump my dumps....Yuk!!!
bought this for my she shed - and ended up having to use it during quarantine. what a colossal waste of money!!! every time i read or hear someone say "15-17 flushes per bag" i KNOW they've never used this thing. it gets TEN! $70 for 3 refills makes this almost THREE DOLLARS PER USE! thought the concept was just the coolest thing ever - until i actually bought it and tried it out. no response from repeated calls and emails to customer service and it's too late to return it...
I love the concept of this, but why oh why do they make it so pricey to use? Surely they can come up with cheaper biodegradable bags to dispose of waste. I had planned on using this for my tiny, but now I am back to the drawing board. Probably go with the incinerator. Cannot stand the composting mess.
So f*cking wasteful, too! 🙄 Really irresponsible. I'm actually glad of the the high price tag, for that reason. Hopefully it's prohibitive for the VAST MAJORITY of people. .....I'd rather support a trailer co. whose owners have more of a mind towards sustainability, PERSONALLY. 😕
Yeah I was really interested in buying this until I did research it's way to expensive and not worth it! I'm shocked no one has figured out how to make the refill cartridges! If that can be done then I'd get it and make my own refills! At that point it's worth it
This was a great presentation and explained so simple. I have been trying to figure out my best option without the cost to put in a septic system. Thank you I am sold. 😊
Composting method is a much cheaper way to go. If you do gardening or grow crops it can be used if not then put it in trash bags. Nothing fancy needed. Only a bucket with an attached toilet seat. But you do need to use saw dust or natural pine pellets without anything added,so no baking soda. You add to the bottom of the bucket and on top of the poop. Also, you can mix pee. I know a lot of folks say you can't, but you can it becomes ammonia which makes great fertilizer. Start a compost pile or throw into a trash bad.if throwing away put bag in Bucket before you start putting waste or anything in Bucket. Also you can always build a cabinet around the Bucket to make it look nice and fancy.
I use it in my off grid cabin that I live full time in. Much better than a composting toilet, but you definitely pay for the convenience at about $2 a flush. That's why I just use it for when I need to sit down for poo or combo. I have a separate porta potty for number 1 and take advantage of the Laveo pee powder. Just 1 tablespoon per pee, and the powder at $7 per pack goes a long way with no need to flush the gel after the powder does its trick.
Why is it better if you are off grid? You must not use it for fertilizer. Most folks off grid prefer composting because they can use as fertilizer for gardening or growing crops.
@@thebigmann81 Its better that I am off grid because its my preference and I prefer to be off grid and it is my right. Never thought I would have to defend myself for being more respectful to the environment. I have a solar system with a powerwall so I never pay an electric bill and leave no carbon footprint. I use water by cistern so I have learned to be more conscientious about water conservation. And I dont need to be around people telling me what I can and cant do like questioning why its better I am off grid, as if I have no right.
@@wadekimball3499He was very clearly asking why someone who lives off-grid would prefer this toilet to a composting one, not asking why someone would live off-grid.
@@ulmersapiens I guess the point is why would it matter if I was off grid or if i feel its better for me. It was my opinion that for me dry flush is better. I went back and re-read the comment and perhaps I came out the wrong way but the question does still remain. Why would it matter if I prefer dry flush over composting. But point is taken, i could have not been so defensive.
Yes. I totally agree. I do not like composting at all. I did it as a kid and while growing up thus seeing first hand what I will not do, after doing it. I live off grid and do not triple use fresh water to smell like a sweaty boar hog when I sleep then live in my off grid mansion smelling like the mire I just laid to waste. Methane, in any form is toxic. Where it certainly does not need to be encapsulated for eternity, I don't need a bursting trail following me or a dung heap. A fly is normal and so is a maggot but they are not on my endangered species list to harbor in the back yard. We all have decisions to make per our own. My passion wagon is open for the city council should they find their way. I do not believe that a plastic bag no matter its mil is any more life threatening to the global community than methane is to corn and a poptart. I agree with you 100%. My way is my way. Good sound daily hygiene with clean smelling, stain free clothes without automation is fine for me. No triple uses of fresh water here and I don't lie down wallow and wake up to the mire I laid the day before. My cause for my humanity and decency is right there. Im not here to save the world, the sperm whale or the kangaroo rat. I run across any of that then I do my part...my part only!!! Unfortunately, these questions these people raise about taking a simple human "dump" borders on the fringe of the universally insane. They are in fact looking for those condemnations to point the castigating finger. It gives them their purpose for the fecal storm they run from and then create. Arriving to no where. Thank you for cutting to the chase. And the air just got fresher...
This toilet was not designed to be the main toilet of a household it was designed for occasional use by weekend campers. Many senior campers like them for their 13 foot light weight campers that have a little more than a bed and a toilet because they can no longer crawl in and out of a tent and have to get up and use the bathroom several times a night and hike to the campground bathroom in the dark and sometimes rainy weather. Most campers I know with dry toilets only use them at night and opt to hike to the public campground bathroom during the day making one cartridge last for an entire week long camping trip.
Since no one mentioned this, mylar is a plastic that lasts forever! It's used here because, of course, it's stronger than regular plastic. Using either plastic bags or mylar adds to the planet's waste problem. But plastic will degrade over thousands of years. Mylar will not. Not only the cost of 15 uses/bag is prohibitive, so is the cost to the planet!
The reality is tho, if doesn’t matter.. your not going to save the planet by not using this product.. unless you eliminate China and India completely the planet is doomed
Going to use this ib a van camper behind the passenger seat and back seat back against the wall. Passenger seat provides some privacy. Disabled so this works best for me. I have mobility problems and use a cane. Couldnt lift and dispose of other toilets. Dont mind the extra cost the convenience is the most important to me. No longer have to pay 1,000.00 a month rent. I can afford a little luxury.
Love it , well worth ever penny , the only downside is the price on the cartridges but other than that is perfect for a trailer. I’m getting mine soon.
I did the math on a best case scenario on refills. For the max refills (3 refills x 5 packs) they want over $40 in shipping! Either they need some serious help negotiating their freight rates or they’re gouging their customers. Total was $305 or $1.35 per use...for two people using it 3x per day, that’s nearly $200 a month! And that’s assuming you can get 15 uses out of each refill and based on comments of real users, that’s not realistic. A bad case of the stomach flu would be costly. The cost of the refills makes a great concept cost prohibitive.
@@___GhostRider___ help me with options. I’m thinking about this for a yard bathroom with a self contained wand wash station. We have movie nights and barbecue in the back yard.
Todd, I liked your post until I saw your image. BYU and everything that shit-hole stands for makes me want to vomit. Thankfully that Mormon "leader" idiot who gave the recent speech @ BYU has gained traction within the national university research community that BYU should never be take seriously as a research institution.
After watching several videos about this, I think the worst issue may not the price itself. Its expensive, but there are people can afford the cost for the convenience and in some cases people may really need that convenience. Its the availability of the refill. Every other portable toilet setup, there are probably alternative supply for containers besides the original factory that may fit for replacement, and you can possibly jury rig something in pinch. With this one you are dependent on supply from Laveo, and its a constant regular supply too.
Now that you mention it why couldn't you rig something? The cartridges are just a peice of cardboard a mylar bag and a plastic ring. Simple enough to diy.
I was thinking it looked like Jiffy Pop...hahaha...Jiffy Poop is a good play on words. Thanks for this video...saw it mentioned on Vacay-Vans I think it is... Very interesting!
I'm a retired architect ....I really liked the sounds of this unit for multiple applications in several projects, but these people [manufactures] shoot themselves in the foot by gouging prices on the bags. No one with half a brain wants to pay $200+ a month for 2 people to buy accessories just to use this item. I will look elsewhere and at other products.
Ideally, the creator should update the video about the fact that they switched it out, for this reason. Or, take the video down. Lot's of people don't read the comments.
I like the concept, but I don't like the long-term dependence on having to buy refills or having to store the refills. I would use this in my van conversion and with my OCD, I would buy many many refills at a time which wouldn't be good in the limited space of a van conversion..
I've had a Luggable Loo in mine for six and a half years. I line it with bags and take it to the bin couple, three times a week for pickup. Simple, efficient, cheap.
The price for reusing is waaaayyyy off the grid. That said I like this one. I don't look to get the flu or diarrhea every month so the gouge may not be as far-fetched as some stretch it to be. A use of more than one person, occassionally two (maybe) is outstanding for that, only. In looking at this I don't see it as the central mainstay to a household, off grid or not. In those situations I see as a welcomed addition for just a touch of humanity and decency. Im not here to magically do my part as a one-seater and voila...save the world. My part is my little part, for me. I am not here to rewrite a playbook. So for me, singularly and off grid this is absolutely perfect without a bursting trail following behind me or a dung heap for my proud fecal pile on juicy tomatoes. Yes, I am off grid, not in my back yard in an R/V on a power cord to a generac. Good product. Please work on that reuse price. Bags are outrageously expensive. Thank You
A decomposable or composting bag like green elephant would make this thing perfect. Instead of having to clean a traditional DIY composting bucket toilet the decomposable bag could be taken out and put on a humanure pile without any mess or clean up.
we have one at are recreation property that is on top of the mountain we absolutely love it we do wish they had different cartridge sizes like 5 for when we are up there for a night so we dont wast so many bags i did email the company about this its diffently easy and clean way to go to the bathroom clean up is also easy i do put it all in an extra sack just cuz we do carry it down off the mountain for my own piece of mind thanks for making an awesome product we also like the pee powder it turns it into a thick gel
Very helpful. Since its been a few years, has it lasted or did you have to do repairs every few months? TMI warning....how many flushes will you get if you drank, say, 48 ounces of water per flush?
Suppose there are a few scenarios where this tech is 'the' solution. Must be so, since I've seen this sort of system around for many years now. Good thing it exists as the myriad local ordinances and worsening public health infrastructure means we need as many potential solutions as possible these days. In general though it is hard to beat the AirHead composter toilet for minimal footprint if you can keep it in a suitably warm environment (bacteria don't like being frozen) and don't mind daily fertilizing your trees and bushes or river when you don't think anybody is watching. But I can understand why most 'experienced' women might prefer the "Jiffy Poop" despite the much higher probability of mechanical failure and supply reorder snafus (better make sure to reorder more 'bags' before Xmas rush) compared to an AirHead. Marine AirHead installs often can add a "mushroom" vent with a solar cell on the cap that powers a second/redundant low draw 12vDC bioreactor output air fan. That should work well on a tiny house roof, thereby, just about eliminating the probability of a complete Airhead system failure. Ultimately, if @Todd's cost analysis below for the dry flush toilet is close enough to accurate for most poopers, then it sounds like a deal killer for tightwads like me. Still appreciate the review by folks that know their s**t though.
No. Dry flush is simply a fancy bag toilet. Just use a big gulp cup and compostable bags and a $35 Walmart fold up toilet and you got the same. Add some sawdust and put the bags in sealable bucket if you want several uses. Empty the big gulp cup each time. Can also use gelling power if you insist you need to piss on your poop.
What a wasteful (pun intended) concept this is. Human waste is biodegradable, and this design would have you create methane bombs wrapped in foil AND plastic to be delivered to landfill sites? Only to reward the company with a hefty monthly dividend selling you expensive cartridges! Any use other than boats or planes is just abhorrently absurd!
Are you still happy with it? Their website showed several people who said the bags have let go after two flushes and other complaints. Also they said the bags are very expensive. Can you please let me know what you think? Thanks
I've looked it up in my area and landfills do say that you can dispose of waste in bags like that. Think about how many diapers diaper genie bags etc going to landfills on a daily basis and it makes sense, although definitely not very environmentally friendly.
Does it smell bad when using and how to deal with the smell ? And will it smell in between waiting for it to be filled ? This is my choice for my future camper van ! 😄
But where does it GOOO? 🧐 🤔 Is this sustainable in any way, or just "convenient"? 🙄 😒 and ends up just hanging out in a landfill forever after, never to decompose? 🤨
Re: my Loo, anyone who has raised children or other animals should have no trouble with the momentary odor while taking out the bag. If so, use some cedar in there.
That looks super easy. Could you go to the bathroom and use that as your "first flush" or does the first one have to be empty? I was thinking you could change the bag right before you have to go? It looks smaller in size than the Natures Head too...is it?
If I have one of those I would line it first with those garbage bag that comes with smelling good odor you know those garbage bag that smells real good I would line it first
We used one of these in our tiny home, We liked it at first but it quit working in less than a year, plus the price of the cartridges was insane. We are going with an incinolet instead. These things aren't worth it at all
That’s my thought. The incinolet. I like this for the price, but the bags are cost prohibitive as well as the waste. Seems the incinerator toilet will be less in the long run.
If you read all comments, you will see that the creator says he installed a sewer line and got rid of this toilet on the same day he filmed this video!! He said there were many problems with it. WTH? Why didn’t he tell us the bad about this toilet? I just purchased the Laveo last week based on this video. This is just wrong.
@@jeaniej9370 we actually had the laveo toilet in our tiny house for a long time. Installing a sewer line was always a part of the plan so I planned to do the video before I removed the toilet so I could have as much experience with it as possible and I tried to do the video in a non bias way to allow people to come to their own conclusions if it was right for them. It's still a great solution for many circumstances, it's just very pricey over the long run
I can't believe that you would believe that this option isn't too expensive. The real answer to "should you use a dry flush toilet at all?" is probably "No, unless you just don't care about the cost at all."
i totALLY AGREE. way to expensive and too much work, i'm sure it would smell, just as the diaper Genie does. It looks very small, does not appear stable and it sits low to the ground and I need a higher seat due to lumbar pain. I will be putting an incinerator toilet in my tiny house.
Hello there! I am on your website trying to request a quote on a trailer. I’ve filled out the form with all the required fields but it won’t go through. It seems to have a problem with inputting the phone number. The field does not have a space bar or dash - so what am I doing incorrectly. With simply inputting the 9digits there seems to be something wrong. Maybe it’s something else Requesting assistance! 😉 I’m in Ontario Canada
Nice toilet, but it will get expensive at a dollar a go. If your averaging three cassettes a month at forty five dollars, that's five hundred and forty dollars a year just to flush.
You say that all self righteously as if you think you are something but all these people living in various rigs, traveling around, using composting toilets,... they aren’t actually composting their waste, it takes a year for human waste to break down and those toilets are getting emptied no more than every 3 weeks. they are tossing it in trash cans across the country so they aren’t anymore green. Get off your high horse!
You didn't show the black rim on that helps hold the bag down, that is thrown out each time. That seems like a lot of money and a lot of waste of garbage bags.
This to fancy for me no thank you. I prefer composting method the cheap way. Bucket, toilet seat, sawdust or pine pellets. That's all you need. Poop and pee all together no mixing needed just the layer method. Dump in composting pile. If throwing in trash use trash bag before hand to make it easier.
I have had one of these toilets in my RV for about three years now. So, it gets limited use. This past week, we used the RV trailer and the toilet would not flush. The air extraction motor would run, but the twist motor would not. No help from Dry Flush other than telling me how to determine if the problem was the circuit board or twist motor. So, I took the thing apart. Turns out the twist motor was seized due to rust. Really, rust...never wet but definitely a humid environment due to forgetting to put a tube of Damp Rid in the trailer when it was in storage for six months. I was able to free up the motor, lubricate it and reassemble. It works fine now, but for how long. lesson learned: test the flushing before heading out on a camping trip. What we did learn is that if the twist motor fails, you can simple twist it by hand via the black ring.
And, yes, the cartridges are expensive. We get maybe 10 flushes before no more room in the bucket. Never run out of media, just space. And, once it gets above about half full, the action is not so great and usually requires more than one flush to capture all the liquid.
But, I am keeping it...way better than having to deal with a black tank.
I'm with you. If you're not using it full time, it a system that I would rather have than the a black tank needing conditioner treatments, dump fees and just plain nasty dumping and cleaning the drain thingy. These are expenses to consider when complaining about dry flush costs. No thanks. In the five years I owned a 36' pusher coach, I think I used the toilet about 50 times and I really hated that the last thing do do after a great camping trip was to dump my dumps....Yuk!!!
Thank you for the honest review! I hope they come out with a model with a bigger holding tank area.
Does it smell after awhile though?
@@alexapostolos that was my question as well.
@@alexapostolos no, but, the first flush after sitting for a while will smell...then nothing.
bought this for my she shed - and ended up having to use it during quarantine. what a colossal waste of money!!! every time i read or hear someone say "15-17 flushes per bag" i KNOW they've never used this thing. it gets TEN! $70 for 3 refills makes this almost THREE DOLLARS PER USE! thought the concept was just the coolest thing ever - until i actually bought it and tried it out. no response from repeated calls and emails to customer service and it's too late to return it...
I love the concept of this, but why oh why do they make it so pricey to use? Surely they can come up with cheaper biodegradable bags to dispose of waste. I had planned on using this for my tiny, but now I am back to the drawing board. Probably go with the incinerator. Cannot stand the composting mess.
So f*cking wasteful, too! 🙄 Really irresponsible. I'm actually glad of the the high price tag, for that reason. Hopefully it's prohibitive for the VAST MAJORITY of people.
.....I'd rather support a trailer co. whose owners have more of a mind towards sustainability, PERSONALLY. 😕
Yeah I was really interested in buying this until I did research it's way to expensive and not worth it! I'm shocked no one has figured out how to make the refill cartridges! If that can be done then I'd get it and make my own refills! At that point it's worth it
I like the Airhead composting toilet. No plastic to put into a landfill.
This was a great presentation and explained so simple. I have been trying to figure out my best option without the cost to put in a septic system. Thank you I am sold. 😊
Composting method is a much cheaper way to go. If you do gardening or grow crops it can be used if not then put it in trash bags. Nothing fancy needed. Only a bucket with an attached toilet seat. But you do need to use saw dust or natural pine pellets without anything added,so no baking soda. You add to the bottom of the bucket and on top of the poop. Also, you can mix pee. I know a lot of folks say you can't, but you can it becomes ammonia which makes great fertilizer. Start a compost pile or throw into a trash bad.if throwing away put bag in Bucket before you start putting waste or anything in Bucket. Also you can always build a cabinet around the Bucket to make it look nice and fancy.
I use it in my off grid cabin that I live full time in. Much better than a composting toilet, but you definitely pay for the convenience at about $2 a flush. That's why I just use it for when I need to sit down for poo or combo. I have a separate porta potty for number 1 and take advantage of the Laveo pee powder. Just 1 tablespoon per pee, and the powder at $7 per pack goes a long way with no need to flush the gel after the powder does its trick.
Why is it better if you are off grid? You must not use it for fertilizer. Most folks off grid prefer composting because they can use as fertilizer for gardening or growing crops.
@@thebigmann81 Its better that I am off grid because its my preference and I prefer to be off grid and it is my right. Never thought I would have to defend myself for being more respectful to the environment. I have a solar system with a powerwall so I never pay an electric bill and leave no carbon footprint. I use water by cistern so I have learned to be more conscientious about water conservation. And I dont need to be around people telling me what I can and cant do like questioning why its better I am off grid, as if I have no right.
@@wadekimball3499He was very clearly asking why someone who lives off-grid would prefer this toilet to a composting one, not asking why someone would live off-grid.
@@ulmersapiens I guess the point is why would it matter if I was off grid or if i feel its better for me. It was my opinion that for me dry flush is better. I went back and re-read the comment and perhaps I came out the wrong way but the question does still remain. Why would it matter if I prefer dry flush over composting. But point is taken, i could have not been so defensive.
Yes. I totally agree. I do not like composting at all. I did it as a kid and while growing up thus seeing first hand what I will not do, after doing it.
I live off grid and do not triple use fresh water to smell like a sweaty boar hog when I sleep then live in my off grid mansion smelling like the mire I just laid to waste.
Methane, in any form is toxic. Where it certainly does not need to be encapsulated for eternity, I don't need a bursting trail following me or a dung heap. A fly is normal and so is a maggot but they are not on my endangered species list to harbor in the back yard.
We all have decisions to make per our own.
My passion wagon is open for the city council should they find their way.
I do not believe that a plastic bag no matter its mil is any more life threatening to the global community than methane is to corn and a poptart.
I agree with you 100%. My way is my way. Good sound daily hygiene with clean smelling, stain free clothes without automation is fine for me. No triple uses of fresh water here and I don't lie down wallow and wake up to the mire I laid the day before. My cause for my humanity and decency is right there. Im not here to save the world, the sperm whale or the kangaroo rat. I run across any of that then I do my part...my part only!!!
Unfortunately, these questions these people raise about taking a simple human "dump" borders on the fringe of the universally insane. They are in fact looking for those condemnations to point the castigating finger. It gives them their purpose for the fecal storm they run from and then create. Arriving to no where.
Thank you for cutting to the chase.
And the air just got fresher...
This toilet was not designed to be the main toilet of a household it was designed for occasional use by weekend campers. Many senior campers like them for their 13 foot light weight campers that have a little more than a bed and a toilet because they can no longer crawl in and out of a tent and have to get up and use the bathroom several times a night and hike to the campground bathroom in the dark and sometimes rainy weather. Most campers I know with dry toilets only use them at night and opt to hike to the public campground bathroom during the day making one cartridge last for an entire week long camping trip.
Thank you for the review. Cant help but think of Jiffy pop when it flushes.
Jiffy Poop
😂😂😂
I have one in my mountain cabin. We only use it for #2. Works great. We’re just up there random weekends so it’s ideal.
That’s gonna be how I will use it when I get my camper van . I won’t use it for #1 . Too pricy 😄
Exactly my use. Perfect for that situation where I don't want to install an entire septic system.
Thank you for doing this video! I wasn't sure how it worked, and I watched the ones from the actual company that makes it. Yours is better.
Since no one mentioned this, mylar is a plastic that lasts forever! It's used here because, of course, it's stronger than regular plastic. Using either plastic bags or mylar adds to the planet's waste problem. But plastic will degrade over thousands of years. Mylar will not. Not only the cost of 15 uses/bag is prohibitive, so is the cost to the planet!
Thank you. I was thinking that can not be green.
The reality is tho, if doesn’t matter.. your not going to save the planet by not using this product.. unless you eliminate China and India completely the planet is doomed
Going to use this ib a van camper behind the passenger seat and back seat back against the wall. Passenger seat provides some privacy. Disabled so this works best for me. I have mobility problems and use a cane. Couldnt lift and dispose of other toilets. Dont mind the extra cost the convenience is the most important to me. No longer have to pay 1,000.00 a month rent. I can afford a little luxury.
Love it , well worth ever penny , the only downside is the price on the cartridges but other than that is perfect for a trailer. I’m getting mine soon.
I did the math on a best case scenario on refills. For the max refills (3 refills x 5 packs) they want over $40 in shipping! Either they need some serious help negotiating their freight rates or they’re gouging their customers.
Total was $305 or $1.35 per use...for two people using it 3x per day, that’s nearly $200 a month! And that’s assuming you can get 15 uses out of each refill and based on comments of real users, that’s not realistic. A bad case of the stomach flu would be costly. The cost of the refills makes a great concept cost prohibitive.
Facts.. The cost is way too much its better cheaper options out there..
Todd, thank you
@@___GhostRider___ help me with options. I’m thinking about this for a yard bathroom with a self contained wand wash station. We have movie nights and barbecue in the back yard.
@@ronguy4420 My option would be a composting toilet..
Todd, I liked your post until I saw your image. BYU and everything that shit-hole stands for makes me want to vomit. Thankfully that Mormon "leader" idiot who gave the recent speech @ BYU has gained traction within the national university research community that BYU should never be take seriously as a research institution.
After watching several videos about this, I think the worst issue may not the price itself. Its expensive, but there are people can afford the cost for the convenience and in some cases people may really need that convenience. Its the availability of the refill. Every other portable toilet setup, there are probably alternative supply for containers besides the original factory that may fit for replacement, and you can possibly jury rig something in pinch. With this one you are dependent on supply from Laveo, and its a constant regular supply too.
Excellent points, you are pretty much locked in to their refills
Now that you mention it why couldn't you rig something? The cartridges are just a peice of cardboard a mylar bag and a plastic ring. Simple enough to diy.
you can buy 3 refills at a time for about $60. if you do the math, that's 45 flushes which will last anyone long enough before ordering more.
Should have named it “Jiffy Poop”
You win!
I was thinking it looked like Jiffy Pop...hahaha...Jiffy Poop is a good play on words. Thanks for this video...saw it mentioned on Vacay-Vans I think it is... Very interesting!
I laughed ... but no way would the owner of the name Jiffy Pop allow that. LOL
That’s hilarious
I'm a retired architect ....I really liked the sounds of this unit for multiple applications in several projects, but these people [manufactures] shoot themselves in the foot by gouging prices on the bags. No one with half a brain wants to pay $200+ a month for 2 people to buy accessories just to use this item. I will look elsewhere and at other products.
yeah, the cost to refill is insane, We not longer use this toilet for that and many other reasons.
@@TinyHouseBasics , so what have you two switched to?
@@TinyHouseBasics more information please
Ideally, the creator should update the video about the fact that they switched it out, for this reason. Or, take the video down. Lot's of people don't read the comments.
15 uses per cartridge is not much at all. That’s like 2-3 days of flushing. Doesn’t make financial sense.
I like the concept, but I don't like the long-term dependence on having to buy refills or having to store the refills. I would use this in my van conversion and with my OCD, I would buy many many refills at a time which wouldn't be good in the limited space of a van conversion..
I've had a Luggable Loo in mine for six and a half years. I line it with bags and take it to the bin couple, three times a week for pickup. Simple, efficient, cheap.
I think that is an awesome idea. I want to know how much smell comes out of that thing honestly.
Awesome!!!!!! Thank you for sharing guys!!! I saw the washing machine and I was so exiting but you don't live in a van but a tiny house... 🤣😂❤️
The price for reusing is waaaayyyy off the grid.
That said I like this one. I don't look to get the flu or diarrhea every month so the gouge may not be as far-fetched as some stretch it to be. A use of more than one person, occassionally two (maybe) is outstanding for that, only.
In looking at this I don't see it as the central mainstay to a household, off grid or not. In those situations I see as a welcomed addition for just a touch of humanity and decency.
Im not here to magically do my part as a one-seater and voila...save the world.
My part is my little part, for me. I am not here to rewrite a playbook. So for me, singularly and off grid this is absolutely perfect without a bursting trail following behind me or a dung heap for my proud fecal pile on juicy tomatoes.
Yes, I am off grid, not in my back yard in an R/V on a power cord to a generac.
Good product. Please work on that reuse price. Bags are outrageously expensive.
Thank You
Great video, very thorough and informative. Thank you!
This is a great video and I am going to get this toilet for my RV, Thank You.
New camper came with one... AWESOME!!!
A decomposable or composting bag like green elephant would make this thing perfect. Instead of having to clean a traditional DIY composting bucket toilet the decomposable bag could be taken out and put on a humanure pile without any mess or clean up.
Might stop it becoming a white elephant...
Agreed. Ill bet someone could re-use the cartridge holders and substitute a composting "plastic" bag.
thanks, great presentation and showing us everything involved!!
That answered all my questions, very well done, thank you!!!
Great review/demonstration!!
Thanks for the detailed information. Very helpful
Awesome keep the videos commin
Thanks! We have many more planned
we have one at are recreation property that is on top of the mountain we absolutely love it we do wish they had different cartridge sizes like 5 for when we are up there for a night so we dont wast so many bags i did email the company about this its diffently easy and clean way to go to the bathroom clean up is also easy i do put it all in an extra sack just cuz we do carry it down off the mountain for my own piece of mind thanks for making an awesome product we also like the pee powder it turns it into a thick gel
Very helpful. Since its been a few years, has it lasted or did you have to do repairs every few months? TMI warning....how many flushes will you get if you drank, say, 48 ounces of water per flush?
Suppose there are a few scenarios where this tech is 'the' solution. Must be so, since I've seen this sort of system around for many years now. Good thing it exists as the myriad local ordinances and worsening public health infrastructure means we need as many potential solutions as possible these days. In general though it is hard to beat the AirHead composter toilet for minimal footprint if you can keep it in a suitably warm environment (bacteria don't like being frozen) and don't mind daily fertilizing your trees and bushes or river when you don't think anybody is watching. But I can understand why most 'experienced' women might prefer the "Jiffy Poop" despite the much higher probability of mechanical failure and supply reorder snafus (better make sure to reorder more 'bags' before Xmas rush) compared to an AirHead. Marine AirHead installs often can add a "mushroom" vent with a solar cell on the cap that powers a second/redundant low draw 12vDC bioreactor output air fan. That should work well on a tiny house roof, thereby, just about eliminating the probability of a complete Airhead system failure. Ultimately, if @Todd's cost analysis below for the dry flush toilet is close enough to accurate for most poopers, then it sounds like a deal killer for tightwads like me. Still appreciate the review by folks that know their s**t though.
Thank you very much, very helpful and detailed review.
No. Dry flush is simply a fancy bag toilet. Just use a big gulp cup and compostable bags and a $35 Walmart fold up toilet and you got the same. Add some sawdust and put the bags in sealable bucket if you want several uses. Empty the big gulp cup each time. Can also use gelling power if you insist you need to piss on your poop.
I was JUST thinking diaper/littler genie. Pretty cool.
What a wasteful (pun intended) concept this is. Human waste is biodegradable, and this design would have you create methane bombs wrapped in foil AND plastic to be delivered to landfill sites? Only to reward the company with a hefty monthly dividend selling you expensive cartridges! Any use other than boats or planes is just abhorrently absurd!
Right?? 🙄 ....ugh. So disappointing, to see them promoting this. 😒
Maybe they get some green from the company or something. 🤦🏻♀️
Can you talk about the odor? What controls the smell if it is controlled?
it smells afterawhile, no way to control it
It's the only one I would ever use.
Are you still happy with it? Their website showed several people who said the bags have let go after two flushes and other complaints. Also they said the bags are very expensive. Can you please let me know what you think? Thanks
"All ready to party" LOL -- alt. "Party like a Rockstar!"
Wow, very nice...does it stink at all? need to be vented?
Do you add peat moss to help it decompose?
It will not decompose sealed in the mylar which will never degrade.
Do you dispose of your “contents” in the regular trash bin?
Yes.
I worked out over 10 years the Laveo toilet would cost me over $10,000 NZD. That and the eco-unfriendliness was a deal breaker.
Is it legal to put that stuff in a dumpster or a residential garbage can?
I wouldn't think it'd be any different than baby diapers and those just get tossed in the regular trash. It's basically a diaper genie for adults.
@@veronicag.6205 I plan to try the DYI composting toilet method before turning to the dry flush toilet method.
I've looked it up in my area and landfills do say that you can dispose of waste in bags like that. Think about how many diapers diaper genie bags etc going to landfills on a daily basis and it makes sense, although definitely not very environmentally friendly.
Does it smell bad when using and how to deal with the smell ? And will it smell in between waiting for it to be filled ? This is my choice for my future camper van ! 😄
nice but EXPENSIVE, IMO. $27 for 4-5 days of use is rediculous. Unbranded Dry Flush Refill Cartridges (3-Pack)-DF1071 - The Home Depot
So $50/ week for using the toilet?
how much does each refill cost?
They said $15 or so
Looks like Jiffy Pop--I’m going to go make popcorn
And what is a proper disposal?
But where does it GOOO? 🧐 🤔 Is this sustainable in any way, or just "convenient"? 🙄 😒 and ends up just hanging out in a landfill forever after, never to decompose? 🤨
It seems like the least environmentally friendly solution as well as being dependent on the expensive bags.
Re: my Loo, anyone who has raised children or other animals should have no trouble with the momentary odor while taking out the bag. If so, use some cedar in there.
Does the smell linger??
That looks super easy. Could you go to the bathroom and use that as your "first flush" or does the first one have to be empty? I was thinking you could change the bag right before you have to go? It looks smaller in size than the Natures Head too...is it?
If I have one of those I would line it first with those garbage bag that comes with smelling good odor you know those garbage bag that smells real good I would line it first
Great review, thanks!
thank you!
For a family of 4 how much will it cost for the refills each month?
THANK YOU!!!❤️❤️❤️
Love this video thanks!
We used one of these in our tiny home, We liked it at first but it quit working in less than a year, plus the price of the cartridges was insane. We are going with an incinolet instead. These things aren't worth it at all
That’s my thought. The incinolet. I like this for the price, but the bags are cost prohibitive as well as the waste. Seems the incinerator toilet will be less in the long run.
Does this get bolted to the floor? how does it sit? just pick up and put anywhere? also does it leave a smell as it fills up?
thanks so much
No need to bolt to floor, just place on level ground. No smell should come from toilet. Waste is supposed to be sealed.
You should probably think about doing a septic system,if you diy shouldn’t cost too much
Using battery and special cartiage refill* it will costing a lot of money. It was about $2.00 a flush A month is $60
To expensive for the bags so my choice would be Compose toilet..
The years have been kind to Freddy Krueger. 😅
I am just now considering the van life and forgive my ignorance, but what is the proper way to dispose of the waist? Anyone know?
Flushing every time will not gain you any space or eliminate any space, but it will cost you more money.
If you read all comments, you will see that the creator says he installed a sewer line and got rid of this toilet on the same day he filmed this video!! He said there were many problems with it. WTH? Why didn’t he tell us the bad about this toilet? I just purchased the Laveo last week based on this video. This is just wrong.
@@jeaniej9370 we actually had the laveo toilet in our tiny house for a long time. Installing a sewer line was always a part of the plan so I planned to do the video before I removed the toilet so I could have as much experience with it as possible and I tried to do the video in a non bias way to allow people to come to their own conclusions if it was right for them. It's still a great solution for many circumstances, it's just very pricey over the long run
I can't believe that you would believe that this option isn't too expensive.
The real answer to "should you use a dry flush toilet at all?" is probably "No, unless you just don't care about the cost at all."
Hello Patrick, its no doubt expensive, but we tried to take our bias out of the video
Basically its an expensive diaper genie. If they had a manual operating model with cheaper bags, maybe...currently too expensive.
Or someone could create a urine diverter for this toilet. So only had to use the flush system with #2s. That would save lots of bag uses.
i totALLY AGREE. way to expensive and too much work, i'm sure it would smell, just as the diaper Genie does. It looks very small, does not appear stable and it sits low to the ground and I need a higher seat due to lumbar pain. I will be putting an incinerator toilet in my tiny house.
Can a drug k-9 detect it through the bags? Its important to know if i want to add this to my van build. VERY IMPORTANT>
Hello there!
I am on your website trying to request a quote on a trailer. I’ve filled out the form with all the required fields but it won’t go through. It seems to have a problem with inputting the phone number. The field does not have a space bar or dash - so what am I doing incorrectly. With simply inputting the 9digits there seems to be something wrong. Maybe it’s something else
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Can I use this in a regular home? I need a secondctoilet..lol.
MIGHT AS WELL JUST PUT A GROCERY BAG IN A 5 GALLON BUCKET WITH A LID
being in a global community how is the refill working out for you any shortages? there is no alternative for the average person to use, is there now.
dose it seal up perfectly everytime after using it?
Do you empty the bags into your compost bin to be composted into garden soil.
😢 betting not. 🗑🚮
So about $1 per flush? Yikes that's expensive. How much is the toilet itself?
Woah, it disappeared! Where did it go? 🤣 over time, is it wasteful using all the packages?
Hipster dreamhouse.
$700 and $70 per refill. I would consider using this only for Airbnb guest who I don’t want messing up my composting setup.
even then there may still be challenges, its not a fool proof design
Does it smell?
just wondering how much of a mess this can handle have you ever had to flush twice?
Where do I disposed the trash?
Do you think this would be the best choice for an off grid tiny house used for Air B&B?
Nope, it's so cool to watch the guests will play with it to watch it flush.
@@serenakoleno9338 thank you
No way!
How do you install the toilet ??
Wait, so it just twists the bag for you? It doesn’t seal it or anything ?
It does seal
Nice toilet, but it will get expensive at a dollar a go. If your averaging three cassettes a month at forty five dollars, that's five hundred and forty dollars a year just to flush.
The Laveo LANDFILL Flush...
You say that all self righteously as if you think you are something but all these people living in various rigs, traveling around, using composting toilets,... they aren’t actually composting their waste, it takes a year for human waste to break down and those toilets are getting emptied no more than every 3 weeks. they are tossing it in trash cans across the country so they aren’t anymore green. Get off your high horse!
Don't confuse with the popcorn
Where does the bag go. You never told us...
you throw it away. or keep it, if that makes you happy. ew
@@GarthsWorld LOL
Omg that's more than a dollar per shit 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️...
Cool concept, but the unit and the bags are way too expensive. A five gallon bucket and eight gallon trash bags do the same thing for a lot less.
You didn't show the black rim on that helps hold the bag down, that is thrown out each time. That seems like a lot of money and a lot of waste of garbage bags.
What are your reasons for not using this anymore? Thanks.
We didnt like it, way too expensive and stinky!
Stinky, really? I thought it was supposed to make airtight seals in the bag to trap smells. Hmm... Thanks for your reply!
1:10 witch is NO WAY BIO Degradable! ! ! 6:00 Can you say a SHT TON of PLASTIC! ! !
Right?? 😳🙄 **Thank you** for saying that! 😒🤮
What if you just have to pee?
Use a Gatorade bottle.
Pickle jar 😁
A comment underneath by 'Jules' makes me wonder, this may not be for us.
This to fancy for me no thank you. I prefer composting method the cheap way. Bucket, toilet seat, sawdust or pine pellets. That's all you need. Poop and pee all together no mixing needed just the layer method. Dump in composting pile. If throwing in trash use trash bag before hand to make it easier.