Nighttime DODX Nuclear Waste Train Chase

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • The lack of information I put in the video was done on purpose, I don't feel like having the feds show up at my door LOL. Anyway, here is our chase of a nuclear waste train on PAR, the train featured MEC 305 which had his green marker lights on, 3 spacer cars, 2 nuclear flasks, and a caboose which was supposed to be filled with armed guards but who knows. Thank you for watching, I hope you enjoyed. Please like, comment and subscribe for more!

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  • @markschenher4559
    @markschenher4559 5 років тому +20

    I worked at Thrall Car in 1988-89 when they built those weird radioactive material cars
    They were extremely heavy and took weeks to weld
    Nice to see they are still in service

    • @Thunderhawk-fr6qv
      @Thunderhawk-fr6qv 5 років тому +1

      Cool my old man was also welder for Thrall Car back in the 70s. I think Trinity now owns them

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 3 роки тому +1

      These are newer ones.

    • @larselder874
      @larselder874 3 роки тому +2

      1991/92, a few were built at Marseilles, Illinois. The strength test was witnessed by 300. Springs replaced with pipe nipples. Dial indicators posted underneath. Very massive loading onto top, over center. No deflection !! Good design, good welding. The DOD were largest rolling stock at that time. Navy transports both new fuel rods and spent rods using these double articulated. If thrall car was already experienced building these - why did gov't go to a different shop??

    • @jamielacourse7578
      @jamielacourse7578 2 роки тому

      That's a lot of plate run through the rollers. I wonder if it was done on a sub- arc?

    • @jamielacourse7578
      @jamielacourse7578 Рік тому

      As a retired welding shop labourer I would've loved to be in on that project.

  • @DougSimmonsYay
    @DougSimmonsYay 7 років тому +94

    Good job at 2:10 keeping your brights off until after the conductor had passed you.

  • @FFred-us9tw
    @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому +9

    There is nothing unusual about this shipment. In my years at Pan Am we had these trains often. Day and night. When it runs comes down to when the train arrives on the property and when the crews are available. The caboose is usually empty or it's carrying monitoring personal. Not guards as there is nothing to guard on these trains. They cannot be broken into. It's considered "self guarding" material. You would need a massive crane and specialized rigging to even open one of those casks and even then you couldn't steal anything without encountering lethal amounts of radiation.

  • @BradKeselowskiRFKWin2024
    @BradKeselowskiRFKWin2024 8 років тому +56

    if there was armed guards on that train at least one person would be riding in the locomotive and one standing on the back of the caboose.

  • @jimjohnson7421
    @jimjohnson7421 3 роки тому +6

    These are DODX M-150 casks for shipping Trident submarine uranium fuel cores, about 180 tons apiece. Usually from Kings Bay Georgia or Norfolk and bound for Hanford or Pocatello. There are no commercial spent fuel loads out there as no place to haul them too.

    • @AntiComposite
      @AntiComposite 3 роки тому +1

      Since it's a Pan Am train, these ones are probably coming from or going to the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard.

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is where these shipments come and go from on Pan Am.

  • @toolsteel8482
    @toolsteel8482 4 роки тому +6

    Cool catch, I liked the department of defense caboose. Thanks for showing.

  • @apmazurka
    @apmazurka 8 років тому +33

    Cant say I have ever seen Green Marker light's.Nice Catch, mean looking caboose also.

    • @MSCRailVideos
      @MSCRailVideos  8 років тому +4

      agreed, thank you!

    • @bigtime7724
      @bigtime7724 7 років тому +1

      theandymano those are called class lights AMTRAK use to run them on p30 and the f40.

    • @trainzguy2472
      @trainzguy2472 6 років тому +1

      What are they for and why are they seldom used?

    • @goghfitness738
      @goghfitness738 6 років тому +1

      Trainzguy 2472 they are used to signal hazardous materials

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому +1

      @@goghfitness738 No, that's not what they are for nor is that what they were ever for. Class lights were to identify a trains classification. Green Indicated that, while the train displaying the lights was a regularly scheduled one, a second section was following behind it. White Indicated an “extra” train not shown in the timetable. And Red was the end of a train. Very few railroads still have the class lights on their loco's. Pan Am is one of those few because they don't want to spend the money to install blanking covers. Because of this many engineers play with them. It's not uncommon to see one light red and one light green around Christmas time and some like to display white or green. It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever. In the case of this train an Engineer took it upon himself to turn them on to green. It was not for any official reason.

  • @The747Isnotdead
    @The747Isnotdead 2 роки тому +1

    1:45 even the horn sounds like something apocalyptic, I LOVE IT

  • @Vinyl_guy
    @Vinyl_guy 3 роки тому +4

    its cool to still see a caboose at the end of a train

    • @JT_8283
      @JT_8283 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah I miss seeing them

  • @jimpikoulis6726
    @jimpikoulis6726 3 роки тому +2

    I love it when trains get NUKED

  • @AlwaysHalloween000
    @AlwaysHalloween000 8 років тому +18

    It's not illegal to capture this on video

  • @BERXJoe
    @BERXJoe 8 років тому +5

    Great video! MEC 305 gets a lot of special assignments-just over two years ago she came down to Connecticut and towed FL9 2019 from Waterbury to Plainville. Seeing a locomotive other than the 350-353 working in CT is not common, but MEC 305 was assigned to tow the 2019. Now here she is hauling a DODX train. I know its probably a coincidence, but I'm officially calling the 305 Pan Am's "good luck locomotive".

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      That's because it has the necessary cab signal equipment to come down to CT on the Springfield line. Very few units have ACSES and Cab Signals. Need both to go on Amtrak territory.

  • @paulspomer16
    @paulspomer16 3 роки тому +3

    Feds showing up at your door? Dude you actually think that would happen?😭😂

  • @watchdog1848
    @watchdog1848 8 років тому +20

    These shipments are in containment vessels that are literal bombproof, accident proof and cannot break open in derailments. There are videos of the gov't testing of the containment vessels and if one looks at them they can easily see that these are safe shipments. Destinations are another matter though. Most folks think that these shipments should be kept secret and that's PURE baloney. Any idiot can watch them depart where they originate. A terrorist would never need a railroad railfan egroup member to tell him where and when on a DODX shipment. People that think these shipments must be kept a guarded secret make me laugh in disgust at their lack of knowledge (I'd say ignorance but I don't want to be offensive to the tender hearted, ha-ha).

    • @AlwaysHalloween000
      @AlwaysHalloween000 8 років тому +9

      it appears to me that the caboose is armored plated

    • @edpotkay1
      @edpotkay1 7 років тому +2

      I have seen those videos. the containers are supposed to be very safe. I think they go out west, can;t remember where. Is a old salt mine I think deep underground.

    • @Thunderhawk-fr6qv
      @Thunderhawk-fr6qv 6 років тому +1

      Lenny Tompkins I agree. As much as I enjoy railfanning, I personally would not take the risk of filming a train full of radioactive materials. I visited a nuclear power plant when I was a kid (several years before 9-11) and even back then those facilities had heavily armed guards, security cameras everywhere and motion sensors. I'd imagine those trains got some heavy security. And I'm quite positive they're in constant radio contact with law enforcement and the feds to ensure they're only minutes away from backup should it be necessary. And if that's an armored caboose, I would imagine they would have cameras in them as well. Most definitely not worth the risk regardless if that train requires armed guards or not.

  • @lewispg4352
    @lewispg4352 7 років тому +19

    Some freighthopper is gonna get a nasty surprise...

    • @lucianstaggs9239
      @lucianstaggs9239 5 років тому +2

      Or get arrested by guard 50/50

    • @kishascape
      @kishascape 3 роки тому +1

      No they wouldn't because they don't hop those kinds of cars nor would they get on a train that short.

  • @patricks_music
    @patricks_music 6 років тому +5

    2:00 I live next to a small Canadian Pacific Rail yard and got pulled out of deep sleep from a horn like that once.

  • @jonfoy6477
    @jonfoy6477 7 років тому +2

    So...what was it illegal for you to watch the train or something?

  • @fdthornburghjrify
    @fdthornburghjrify 5 років тому +2

    I happen to know these trains schedules are top secret how did you find this out

    • @stevekatkus5528
      @stevekatkus5528 5 років тому +3

      How would you know they are top secret. I don't think the crews and the railroad personell have that level of security clearance. Most likely it's just FOUO

  • @ionhunter
    @ionhunter 6 років тому +2

    Looks like the pressure vessel / reactor to me. New it would be just empty, used still empty but slightly radioactive.

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      Not a reactor. It's a storage cask. Lid comes off and loaded and emptied that way with fuel. A new reactor vessel would not be shipped by the DOD or DOE and an old reactor would never be shipped at all. They are all cut up as the complete reactor compartment and buried complete in Washington at the Hanford Site.

    • @ionhunter
      @ionhunter 2 роки тому +1

      @@FFred-us9tw LOL not even close, used fuel rods but law, that the democrats enacted 40+ year ago, must be stored on site of where the fuel was used. Once the cask of used fuel rods is full, its welded shut multiple times. This is part of the nuclear proliferation treaty, in that the Russian know exactly where our used fuel rods are. Other types of nuclear waste are trans posted by TRAIN and or Truck. Once you have worked 15+ years for the DOD/DOE in transportation, get back to me on it.

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      @@ionhunter Why are you bringing up Commercial plants? Who said anything about them? Yes, spent nuclear fuel from commercial POWER PLANTS is stored on those sites in casks. And it's governed by the DOE, not the DOD.
      US Navy ships however have their spent fuel stored at two sites in the US. NONE of it is stored at Navy bases. So your comment about commercial plants storing their fuel "where it was used" would be an impossibility for ships or submarines obviously.
      That's where these trains come into play. And that is what you are seeing here. These trains are commonplace between Portsmouth Naval Shipyard and sites like INL.
      And these are very common dedicated cask systems specifically for USN reactor fuel shipments. Known as the M-140 Casks. They hold either spent fuel or new fuel. If you really do work for OST these shipments would have nothing to do with you, which is why you know nothing about the equipment used here.
      And i know all about the OST and NNSA shipments. 22 Years in the Navy originating these shipments. Dealt with you guys plenty of times. I know more about what's in many shipments then you do hauling them. The fact you think this could have been a reactor or a pressure vessel for one proves you have never spent time on the Nuclear side of the Navy.

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      Do an internet search for Naval Spent Nuclear Fuel Transport. NWTRB. It wont let me post the link here. But there is a whole power point like presentation where you can see how the DOD and the Navy ship fuel. It even shows the cars they use including the exact one shown here on this video that you thought was a reactor pressure vessel. Good read where you can learn how the railroads and Navy move stuff.

  • @tamasnemeth4891
    @tamasnemeth4891 7 років тому +21

    Imagine trainsurfing this....

  • @fdthornburghjrify
    @fdthornburghjrify 5 років тому +1

    That wasn't a waste disposal container that is fresh material marked for purposes unknown

    • @coyotem3a1
      @coyotem3a1 4 роки тому

      And how do you know?

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      They are purpose built casks for hauling fresh and then spent nuclear fuel for nuclear submarines. Often times the casks are empty as they are in transit to be re-loaded. This particular train is common on this line and travels to and from the Navy base in Portsmouth RI.

  • @briandynamite7942
    @briandynamite7942 2 роки тому

    Fun fact, this train went through my town. I didn’t know they moved nuclear waist

  • @raduga135
    @raduga135 7 років тому

    i love the intro when the train is honking jingle bells

  • @jeffreyroberts3393
    @jeffreyroberts3393 5 місяців тому

    Seen one today not a person in sight were it seating all by it self

  • @nato9488
    @nato9488 7 років тому +14

    2:25 headphones warning jesus christ

  • @ronaldckrausejr7762
    @ronaldckrausejr7762 7 років тому +2

    If TEN of those trains reported to Yucca each and every week; it would take 30+ years to get all of the nuclear waste there

    • @kaiwetlesen9114
      @kaiwetlesen9114 4 роки тому

      Ten trains a week? Rookie numbers! Add a couple zeroes in there.

    • @jonhaskins617
      @jonhaskins617 3 роки тому

      Yet tracks don't run to Yucca.
      And never have had a drop delivered.
      They offer tours of the site.
      Do you think they would do that if they were up and running.
      Do some homework.

  • @bigdave6331
    @bigdave6331 7 років тому +5

    garantee you that last car had guards in it

  • @bigtime7724
    @bigtime7724 7 років тому +18

    These trains remind me of super 8

  • @WhiteRiverRails
    @WhiteRiverRails 7 років тому +2

    That was a cool catch!

  • @jamielacourse7578
    @jamielacourse7578 Рік тому

    I'm betting thats no empty caboose.....ten bucks says it contains a heavily armed squad........

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw Рік тому

      No armed escorts at all. These shipments don’t require them. The caboose is monitoring equipment and on loaded trains typically a liaison officer(s) for local emergency response.

  • @MultiMusicianman
    @MultiMusicianman 8 років тому +3

    Nice footage.

  • @TheBowgo
    @TheBowgo 7 років тому +1

    The making off “Super 8”?

  • @okamijubei
    @okamijubei 2 роки тому

    Make me wonder if anti-nuclear never happen, couldn't we have nuclear powered trains in the last couple of decades?

  • @henrybrightonmusicuploads
    @henrybrightonmusicuploads 4 роки тому +1

    Where is this coming from? Where is it going?

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      Likely coming from Idaho and it's headed to Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Portsmouth NH.

  • @MaineCentral114
    @MaineCentral114 8 років тому +2

    Don't mean to make the feds show up at your door, But do you know where these guys were coming from? Portsmouth naval yard? Yankee ?

  • @johnsonwilliam1023
    @johnsonwilliam1023 3 роки тому +1

    There’s men riding in that caboose

    • @93anthonyseanhowell99
      @93anthonyseanhowell99 3 роки тому +1

      Johnson.William..
      Yes Yes Yes your right more or less there's bound to be fully armed top secret personnels with full on protective all black gear nightgoggles included as well as thickest padding..
      And those unknown guards or persons are highly trained as in thoroughly countless retraining again and again and again and again.. And highly adept as in last minute simulated run-throughs highly skilled as no fcuking Chances at all at that late night D.O.D.X. Train being hijacked taken pilfered..
      And highly effective as in all manner off military multiple graded Sniper guns with silencers on already..
      And highly experienced as in they've done it before highly covertly secretively qualified highly efficient as in shoot to kill terminate annihilate put foes enemies combatants adversaries hostiles down six feet under pushing up daisies sent them all off the graveyards worm fcuking foods and permanently to boot..

    • @johnsonwilliam1023
      @johnsonwilliam1023 3 роки тому

      @@93anthonyseanhowell99 well working for the railroad for 33 years and putting trains together for a living that those aren’t robots walking up and getting into the caboose when I’ve assembled trains like that have a good day

  • @JamesEllison69
    @JamesEllison69 6 років тому +3

    1:45, that's an unusual train horn.

  • @evanmyers6003
    @evanmyers6003 8 років тому +3

    what does dodx stand for?

  • @wireflight
    @wireflight 7 років тому +1

    which is cooler -- the revenue consist and casks/vaults, or the armored caboose?

  • @helenodetroyo7035
    @helenodetroyo7035 3 роки тому +1

    WHAT IF ONE OF THOSE NUCLEAR WASTE CAR DISENGAGE AND GO RUN AWAY DOWN THE HILL?🤔🤣

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      Nothing will happen. Look up the testing done on these cars.

  • @alexandergrube6437
    @alexandergrube6437 7 років тому +1

    that's one fucked up horn!

  • @coolleo149
    @coolleo149 5 років тому

    That’s a bad horn on this locomotive

  • @babyganius8410
    @babyganius8410 6 років тому +1

    The train is very long

    • @coyotem3a1
      @coyotem3a1 4 роки тому +1

      Uhhh...
      It is only 5 cars long.

  • @metrobostonbusesanrail
    @metrobostonbusesanrail 8 років тому

    nice

  • @user-qg2um7vu2g
    @user-qg2um7vu2g 6 років тому

    i LIVE IN WESTFORD MA

  • @AlexVeranstaltungsStuff
    @AlexVeranstaltungsStuff 6 років тому

    Why the fuck are those american trains soo fucking loud!

  • @iluvmichelleALOT
    @iluvmichelleALOT 6 років тому

    The polar express

  • @SebastianGarcia-fz6pp
    @SebastianGarcia-fz6pp 6 років тому +2

    I found a caboose

  • @Crod716
    @Crod716 3 роки тому

    That's not a nuclear waste train

    • @rkolsen
      @rkolsen 2 роки тому

      Wasn’t it predominantly shipped by highway. This is what I found from DOE: www.energy.gov/ne/articles/high-tech-railcar-designed-transport-spent-nuclear-fuel-moves-next-phase

  • @edchapman7081
    @edchapman7081 7 років тому

    thats one disgusting horn

  • @sandymoonstone855
    @sandymoonstone855 6 років тому

    🍎 one more and D.I.A .will "encourage " an ex con to visit you.💀

  • @pranavlal839
    @pranavlal839 7 років тому

    But the second one was right

  • @mrcorndog625
    @mrcorndog625 6 років тому +2

    America stop using nuclear ffs.

    • @Shadow-gf1hv
      @Shadow-gf1hv 6 років тому +2

      We will when Russia and China stop

    • @calumkylee
      @calumkylee 6 років тому +3

      Yes! Let's stop using nuclear with these virtually invincible containers filled with a small amount of nuclear waste being safely stored in a secure location so that the waste can come from coal-fired smoke stacks to be stored in your lungs :)))) Nuclear is by far the best source of energy.

    • @kermitthefrog6036
      @kermitthefrog6036 6 років тому +1

      These are not nuclear bombs... They're waste from nuclear reactors, which creates energy

    • @Lucien86
      @Lucien86 6 років тому +4

      Sigh.. Dumbass. Nuclear is statistically over a thousand times safer than coal. Worst nuclear disaster ever - was Chernobyl. Coal has eight Chernobyls a year every year.

    • @rungcox4823
      @rungcox4823 6 років тому +1

      Truth Hurts
      no u

  • @richintalent
    @richintalent 8 років тому +15

    So all those cars have radioactive material?

    • @ryanfrogz
      @ryanfrogz 7 років тому +4

      richintalent just the one long car.

    • @richintalent
      @richintalent 7 років тому +10

      Do they normally move them at night, or was this a coincidence?

    • @mitchellspanheimer1803
      @mitchellspanheimer1803 6 років тому +4

      Only the ones with the flasks, the flatbeds are just spacers for accident safety...

    • @goghfitness738
      @goghfitness738 6 років тому +1

      richintalent no they usually do it at night

    • @jjk2one
      @jjk2one 2 роки тому

      Test yourself with a Geiger counter. Watch the airports test people for radiation.

  • @dicksteel6792
    @dicksteel6792 2 роки тому

    What a waste of articulated cars everything is single stacked

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      They are not articulated cars. And the only thing these cars can hold is casks designed for these shipments. They have the trucks you see because of the weight.

    • @audiophish7211
      @audiophish7211 2 роки тому

      @@FFred-us9tw I was referring to the first train with the containers

    • @FFred-us9tw
      @FFred-us9tw 2 роки тому

      @@audiophish7211 The Hoosac tunnel will not fit double stacked domestic containers. Only International or domestic with an international. That being said it’s why you often see single stacked double stacks on PAR