Celtic Knot Made 3 Different Ways (experiment )
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- So about a year ago I made a rolling pin with a Celtic Knot design. It was my first attempt at inlaying a Celtic Knot and my lines were off a little. So after reading some comments and doing a little research. I found out what I did wrong. I decided to give it another try, but this time I will do it 3 different ways. The first Celtic Knot I will do it the same as before as in cutting the block in two pieces. But this time I will replace the same thickness as I cut out unlike my first attempt a year ago. The 2nd and 3rd pins I will leave about an 1/8" of the block uncut so it remains one piece. For the 2nd block I will insert a piece of wood the same thickness. The 3rd one I going to cut it the same as 2nd block, leaving it one piece, but this one I will fill with epoxy from @TotalBoat . So let see which Celtic Knot turns out the best and the easiest to make. Wish me Luck...
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very nice, much better than your earlier ones!! i've done many many celtic knots in pens, salt and pepper sets etc etc. pens i do the cuts on my bandsaw and insert veneer of matching thickness which is around 32 thou
if you want to step it up another notch, try a 6 loop instead of your 4! hint, start with a hexagonal blank, it has to be a true hexagon to work nicely. i have done many pens with the 6 loop, the toughest part is cutting an accurate hexagon, the rest is the same
Thanks!! I going to try the 6 loop one day. Great idea. I really appreciate the comment. Thanks again. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Fun experiment. I wouldn't have thought of using epoxy. Good idea.
Thanks. Epoxy was my favorite of the three.
All three turned out very nice but I like the epoxied one best because I like a strong contrast of colors. Good video.
My favorite is the epoxy too. Thanks for watching. 👍👍
Those chisels at 5:30 .... I just ordered materials to make file handles like that after seeing this. Your videos always end up with me on Amazon starting a new project. Very motivating! 😊
Thanks for watching and I have a link in the description for those lathe tools. 👍👍
i ahve done the knot with epoxy. you can make all 4 cuts without it falling apart and do just one pour.
Really!!! That's Cool. I'll have to try that...
I was wondering about this, makes sense. thanks for sharing.
Love em. Especially the epoxy one. That came out real nice.
theguitarpicker Thanks 👍👍
I don't know if it's the angle this is filmed or what... but my testicles are up in my rib cage every time you use the table saw. I really hope you're being as careful as you should be, it doesn't seem like you're afraid of that blade at all, but then I see how much experience you have and I count your fingers, and they're all there, so I don't know what to say. Just please, please be careful! ❤️
Believe me it's safety first in the shop. It does look close in the video I agree , I have a habit of looking where my hands are and if they are securely safe before I make any cuts. Thank you for your concern. Stay safe and healthy in these crazy times.....
I just noticed yo made a video on how to make a table saw cross cutting sled...why didn't you use it? Or at least have clamps on the sled you did use?
Overall great video and I thank you for making it!
Excellent corrective video. I'm going to implement your 2nd method this weekend.
Thanks.
Cool! Let me know how it turned out. 👍🏻👍🏻
i use the "leave an eighth" method, works everytime! now, here's a challenge, try a 6 loop knot, hint start with a hexagonal blank! i've done dozens of 6 loop, mostly for pens
That’s cool !! I jumped right to 8 loops, Check it out. Celtic Knot with 8 Rings plus How to cut an Octagon Block on a Table Saw.
ua-cam.com/video/-hSTXiiscyk/v-deo.html
How do you cut the Hexagonal blank. 👍👍
Especially love the one with epoxy. Wondering what it would look like if a different color was used for each cut.
Me too! The different colors would be interesting. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great experiment! Thanks for putting it together. Your results make sense. With the complete cut/separation of the halves, you probably cannot help but end up with some misalignment in the end with a single exception: You are not only cutting and separating the original blank, but also separating the contrast wood as well. That separation is linear, and unless the thickness of the contrast wood is EXACTLY the same thickness as the kerf, then you would never be able to keep everything aligned.
Thank you ! You are totally right. Thanks for the comment. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
This is true, but if the blank is made from maple you can only notice it if you are a woodworker looking for it.
I place a perpendicular line to the blank in the middle of my angle cut before the cut. That way when you glue up you just align the two lines and the blank is true on both sides of the cut.
Great idea , I'll have to remember that👍👍
Great video, great looking knots, will definitely be giving them a try. 👍👍👍
Ya give it a go!! Fun build. Thanks👍🏻👍🏻
Really cool project & comparison~! Makes me really want to give this a shot. Thanks for sharing~!
Thanks and do it. It's a fun build...
Great video, and I enjoyed the sound effects immensely!
Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Best one I have seen! I am going to make a jig.
Awesome Job! They look beautiful
Thanks👍🏻👍🏻
Mind boggling!
Oh man, these are so beautiful!
Thank you do much!!😁
GREAT video! Thank You so much for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Hmm, I've never seen anyone use a scraper for spindle turning.
Thanks for sharing, awesome project and interesting process. Full View and Like 👍. Hope you and your family had a good Christmas 🎄
Thank you so much 👍🏻. Comments like this keep me going, I really appreciate it. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
I have made a dozen of these Celtic knot rolling pins. Here are some of the problems I have encountered in making them. Like you having the knot come out even is always a challenge. The most inconsistent way was with the thru-cut method. No matter how careful I was with the alignment during glue up there was always a little misalignment. The second problem that I have is dealing with drilling the hole for the rod. No matter how careful I was I could never get a constant straight hole in the project. The drill bits would drift off center and never meet up perfect in the center. Or if attempting a complete drill through which I did on my very first time successfully, would drift way off center. These are how I have dealt with this . I invested in a steady rest. Also if I'm doing a glue up I score a center line about an 1/8 inch directly down the length of the two innermost pieces. This gives a channel for the bit to travel down and not wander. But the most frustrating problem I find is once you turn the blank into a cylinder to finally reveal the knot the rolling pin is too small. I'm thinking that there is a correlation between cut angle and final diameter of the pin. What's your thoughts on this
I'm thinking about this problem of the final diameter of the pin. It seems to me that the blank has to be at least twice the thickness of the amount you leave behind when making your cutting passes on the sled. If you leave an 1/8" per side when running through, then your blank needs to be a full 1/4" thicker square to begin with as compared to the full cut-through method. Honestly I think a full 1/2" thicker is the best bet just to be safe. It seems a small price to pay in extra material for a simpler construction method and better aligned results.
@@FrankC76 that's possible I've started off with 3 1/4 inch sides and by the time I finished and the knot appeared my knuckles were dragging on the table at the handles. That's why I was wondering if the cutting angle played anytime all of this
@@laff000 How much did you leave behind when you cut through? 3 1/4" is very thick, I'm surprised it still came out too thin.
Nice job . My first one I did after watching your other video came out nice . But it was a pain on the glue up
Try doing the one that you don't cut all the way through , Much easier... Thanks for watching
nicely done! done lots of them myself.
now a new challenge: the six loop celtic knot. hint: start with a hexagonal blank and do six inserts
What a great idea....may have to try that!!
@@TheMuzShop i've done lots of 6 loop, mostly in pens. you can see them on my fb page: facebook.com/artistryinwoodca/photos/1734522540054815
Awesome work! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Fred McIntyre Thanks 👍👊🏻
Muito show..., adorei a ideia!!!
Abraço aqui do Brasil 🇧🇷
Muito obrigado
Good stuff...
Nice clean woodworking. I like your presentation and explanation.
Can you ( or anyone you have seen ) do a Celtic knot where ALL of the intersections alternate "over/under" as in a true Celtic knot?
Again, Nice work, Phill P.
Very Good!!
Thanks!
Love the epoxy rolling pin. So easy to change the color of the knot. Couple questions though: 1) How much cure time did the epoxy take? 2) Did you let the epoxy fully cure before you proceeded to the next pour?
Cure time depend on the epoxy you use but the totalboat I used I would let it cure for about 6 hrs in between cuts and then 24 hrs before I put it on the lathe. Thanks for watching.
Can you use four different colors of epoxy. That should give the impression of grain. Thanks. I did a rolling pin like that about five years ago. I had some of the same problems you had. Looking forward to your work.
Sure you could use 4 color, sounds interesting. thanks for watching....
have a look at the Staffordshire Knot, it was an insignia taken from Anglo Saxon crosses in the region dating from the 8 or 9th century by the Norman de Stafford family in the later medieval period, and probably arose from earlier iron age tribal grouping of three local peoples, the knot symbolising the grouping of the three tribes into one bound by the knot.
I'll have to check it out ....Thanks
Nicely done! I like the non-through cut for easier clamping
Thanks! 👍 Me too....
One thing that may be a problem is the contrast wood slices must be same width as the saw blade.
Exactly!! That’s what I found out too. Whatever width you cut out you must replace the same. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great Video, I will be replicating your epoxy method. On the tablesaw, it looks like you are making the cuts at 60 degrees. Thanks
Thats right and the epoxy one is fun to make .....
Yes, super cool.
Thanks!!!
Cool, will have to try that, what is the size of the blank?
I started out with 2 1/2” x 2 1/2” x 16”. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
Champion 👍
Thanks 👍👍
I have a question about the epoxy knot. Will the epoxy bond with the wood securely enough so that it will not separate?
So far so good.... It seem to be holding strong.
I have a project similar to your rolling pins, I am trying to figure a way to put a Celtic knot into an octagon knife handle, I thought that after watching your video you might have some suggestions. I don't know if I want to make a cut for each face of the octagon or just the original square block. any thoughts would be a great help.
Sounds interesting. I’ve never done this before but I’m thinking if you do what I did and instead of putting it on the lathe cut it into the octagon shape last. I’m thinking that would workout fine. Let me know how it works, e-mail my a pic. 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video. Is that a 45 degree jig on your sled or some other angle?
I used a 30 degree cut. Here is a detailed video on how to make the rolling pin....ua-cam.com/video/R64XfXwrhwY/v-deo.html
Thanks
What angle did you use and is the angle critical to the look of the knot?
I cut them at 60 degrees and the angle is not critical as long as all cuts are the same. The knot 🪢 will change shape with different angles.
Hi Muz, Just found you from recommended videos. Great rolling pins. I have made dozens of Celtic Knot Pens and making sure the insert is the same size as the kerf is vital to make sure the intersections are perfect. Have you tried doing 2 or 3 rings in one? I have done both and they are fun. I posted a video of a Double Knot Pen using 60 and 45 degrees a few weeks ago and would love to know what you think. I have subbed and hit the bell. Happy New Year. Take care. Cheers, Huw
Super cool pen!! I subbed you. I bet that would look great on something larger too. Happy New Years to you too.👍👍
@@TheMuzShop Hi Muz, It does look great on larger pieces but you still have to turn down to expose all three rings so you can end up with a smaller diameter than yo had planned. I will be posting a Triple Celtic Knot Pen in the next few weeks and, once again would love to know what you think. Cheers, Huw
@@WoodenItBeNice Awesome!!
Wunderbar Jawohl
Please excuse me. i am an old man(81) and I couldn't follow where you made the 2nd thru 4th cuts.
All the cuts are the same just keep rotating the block. One cut per side. Hope this helps. I have another video that may help you….. Super Cool Rolling Pins!! Easy to Make
ua-cam.com/video/R64XfXwrhwY/v-deo.html
Thanks MUZ
Great video as always, a real pleasure to watch 😊 Have you ever thought of doing a collaboration with Brad Leone from bon appetit? I know he does woodworking in his "spare time" 😊
Jo Tann thank you!! I real like Brad from BA. I’m a big fan. Would love to collaborate with him. Thanks for watching. 👍👍
Is the angle on your sled 45 degrees
The angle I used was 30 degrees. I have another video than shows more of how too. Check it out ua-cam.com/video/R64XfXwrhwY/v-deo.html
Thanks👍🏻👍🏻
skull rolling pin?
How did you get the kerf wide inserts that large? I’ve never had luck cutting them taller than 1.5”.
I cut them on the table saw, if your table saw doesn't go that high cut what you can then flip it so the same side is against the fence and cut the rest....
What angle for the cuts please
I cut them at 60 degrees but you can cut them whatever , just as long as they are all the same. Thanks
3 at one time was totally confusing. Not well explained. I learned nothing
The video was not made to explain how it was made to test 3 different ways to made a Celtic knot.
Just a heads up... it's really super dangerous to stop half the blank from turning like that while working on the other half (5:29). It could blow up and do super amounts of damage. Seriously, stop giving your viewers super bad habits. NEVER stop half the piece from turning. I can't believe this actually has to be said. What a world.
😂😂😂
Wish i would've read this comment first. I stopped the wrong half of the blank when i tried and the lathe started spinning around the blank
We should all fight immediately.
LMAO
@ 5:27 Anyone else see that?
Good eye....
@@TheMuzShop Thanks....just thought I was one scotch too far along to be near a 2by4. 🙄
@@TheAssholeInCharge-fornow 😂🤣