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@@sedw Thank you. The link to JCI is in the description and you can just google Joint Commission International hospital ratings. Same with Newsweek 2024 hospital rankings. Best wishes to your channel.
Everyone has different experiences I have used both big and small government hospitals and the private hospitals in Chiang mai My experience has been that the government hospitals have long waits and then can be either 'sent away' to a private hospital or passed around, asked for a scan (we have a machine but no one to use it) as like all public services is underfunded, staff were great but it was a long uncertain drawn out process. also seeing the same dried blood on the ER curtains two months after my first visit, funding it seems is in short supply. My experience with the Bangkok Hospital in Chiang Mai has been fantastic, quick, efficient and cannot fault, saw consultant in the morning had CT scan and operation in the afternoon - but you pay for it. The local medical centres in villages are great for small issues like removing stiches and wound care and cost very little. i would now been through all of them go back to the Bangkok Hospital in Chiang Mai.
Great editing. Great videos, great humor. An acquaintance was hospitalized and had an emergency double bypass. No insurance... He was in a private room and stayed for 9 days. Out of pocket was roughly 8k. This included follow up visits. Worth every penny.
Thanks for the nice comments and glad you got my jokes. (: Thanks for sharing the story about the double bypass. Glad to have real life stores about this.
@@RetiredGlobalLife keep up the good work, i applaud a good sense oh humor. Upon our return in June, my wife and I would like to see you both at a meet and greet, or something to that effect.
Top tier content and I have subbed as a result. My 4 significant interfaces with the Thai medical system has been better than anything I have had in Australia.
What a cool video Randy, thanks for making it. I had emergency kidney stone surgery at Bangkok Hospital Chonburi 2 years ago and the experience was amazing. I had 2 experienced surgeons, morphine and sponge baths for 3 days by the adorable Thai nurses. Total cost was 1/5th of what the equivalent care would have cost here in the states. Bangkok Hospital participates with BCBS international core, so I was reimbursed at in-network rates too.
@@RetiredGlobalLife No, not Medicare. My plan is still through my employer, but it comes with international coverage while traveling, for emergencies mostly. Important to note, at the time of the incident I had a separate travel emergency insurance policy that denied coverage. Travelers should be warned that travel/emergency policies have exclusions, for things like calcifications like stones, or cancer, or pregnancy.
I lost it at the Constipation song my buddy…that was seriously hilarious. I’m looking to get hardware removal surgery on my ankle possibly at Hua Hin Government Hospital. Thanks for the truly informative, entertaining video and the warm delivery style I’m a fan my friend and God Bless you and all your subscribers! Shout out from 🇨🇦
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is a very, very important topic! I'm sure many viewers would also be interested in knowing about nursing home options in Thailand.
Randy….HOLY CRAP!!!! Thank you so much for the work you put into this. As I sit here in Chiang Mai, ready for complete relocation to hear next month, this video came at the perfect time. I need to buy you a coffee or lunch. Look forward to seeing you ‘LIVE’ and not on my little screen. Thank you again.
Thanks, Jody! Yes, lots of editing and research for that one. Please share it on Facebook or wherever with others who might benefit. I hope it helps a lot of people.
That is very nice of you, Andrew, and yes, it was a lot of work. I want to be one of those UA-camrs who just walk with their camera for ten minutes and that is their complete video. Life would be easier, haha. I hope you share it on your social media if you know others who might be interested in the subject.
New subscriber Randy, enjoyed the video very much. In 2005 I stayed 3-days at Queen SiriKit Hospital in Sattahip in a private room, and the staff, and especially the doctors were great! And it was a fraction of the cost, even though then I had BUPA.
Thank you so very much for doing all of this research and presenting so well - with just a side note of humor! I can see from this video how much you feel at home in Chiang Mai and how much you want to share that feeling. Great job!
Great Video and many useful tips . I have used Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok , expensive but great service . For pharmacy in Bangkok Chula is reliable and cheap or order online , I use Medisafe , they mail to Koh Samui . Key tip for insurance , get it when you are fit and healthy .
Once again an excellent video, full of information and practical advice. But watch out, Randy, I can swear I saw Joy's portrait behind you frowning at 15:15 and 26:53! I wouldn't want to see your name in the news pages, like "a Thai woman slits the throat of her American fiancé!"
Haha, you are too funny. She knows where my heart is. I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media and get this info out to people who can use it.
Big thanks! I try to put out some real informative videos. I hope if you know others who are interested in Thailand you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media. Thanks!
This is some really solid info - I had no clue about the public facility options which foreigners can visit. You are correct that many expat vloggers speak to the private options and not so much about the public hospitals. Great content sir!
Thanks Leo. Appreciated. If you know others who are interested in Thailand I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media. I hope many can learn from this.
Very good video Randy and thanks for sharing, you are also a funny humorous guy, I like you vids, Greetings from Germany Michael, PS: Hope to move to Thailand next year.🤩👍
You and me both! Hospital videos won't go viral but I hope it will be helpful. If you know others who are interested in Thailand I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media. That will help it grow and educate people at the same time.
Thank you for a very informative and extremely important video for those of us looking to move and reside in Thailand. I recently returned from a trip to Thailand for the purpose of deciding where in Thailand I plan to retire in. Chiang Mai was high on my list of retirement cities. Your video reinforces my decision. All the best.
Thanks! And very smart of you to make an advance trip to test the waters before you actually move. I love Thailand but it is not for everyone. We are all looking for completely different things and lifestyles. Even Thailand is not one size fits all.
@@RetiredGlobalLife Thank you, Randy. I traveled around to several cities in Thailand during my 3 week stay last November. I really liked Chiang Mai and met several Thai residents there and they were extremely friendly and helpful in showing me around the city. We have kept in touch since and I told them that I am planning to return to Thailand to retire there. They offered to help me find a place to live and get settled. They are the warmest folks ever and I am truly looking forward to returning back soon. Hope to meet you and your beautiful wife one day in Chiang Mai. Take care.
Went to the ER one night at 4AM for what I thought was flu. Within 120 seconds literally, I had been checked in and already had a bed. Within 20 minutes, I had seen a nurse, doctor and had tests run. Within 30 minutes, I had paid my bill and and received meds and was told it was an upper respiratory infection. Total cost including meds? 84 bucks. Costs more to put gas in my car.
another excellent video, thank you. the description of the thai hospital system tracks that found in indonesia, but the overall quality of care is way higher in thailand. many indonesians get non-emergency medical care in malaysia now as singapore is too expensive, and no language barrier exists between indonesia and malaysia.
Hi Randy, checking in from Krabi on vacation . What a great video again! I can underwrite everything you report. And I'm not even an insurance underwriter but unfortunately over the years I had used many of the hospitals you mentioned ,both in Bangkok and in Chiang Mai. Obviously private hospitals are in business for profits so their prices are much higher than public hospitals. Their services on the presentation side can be like 5 star hotels and Bamrungrad is a prime example . From my perspective, based on experience , is that they tend to do overservicing to maximise profits . Much more than other private hospitals. Other than the quality of medical expertise, which is the most important, and that goes for every country, it depends on a couple of things. 1. The training they received and where. 2. Their empathy and bedside manner . So on 1. If the hospital website lists the doctors profiles you can check out where and what year they graduated and their career moves plus any additional trainings ,some in America, the UK and other Western counties. That means a lot to me. On 2. This is important , particularly if you're a long term resident. When I find a doctor who I have a good rapport with and a lot of female doctors seem very empathic, maybe to do with culture and their maternal upbringing, I ask them if they could become my primary health provider. They can always transfer me to the right specialist by recommendation. After all they know the right doctors better than me . One more comment.. Your health care and rehabilitation is also affected by your mental state due to anxiety. So the level of care and ambiance in a private hospital plus much less waiting time is very beneficail to you and your recovery. Probably worth spending a bit more if you uninsured but can afford it . Ah and thanks for the plug . It helped my mental state!😜
Glad you saw my shout out! Thanks for all your comment above as well. I keep telling Joy I want to go to Krabi but she keeps picking other places. One day soon I hope to check it out. Have fun my friend.
Great video…I was about to comment that the video was lacking just one topic, the cost of hospital pharmacy vs. outside pharmacy, then you covered that too at the end.
Fantastic info! Your channel is the "go-to" source for real, useful Thailand info. Keep it coming... Any prospect of doing something on best banks, best type of account for expats, how to open an acct, how to earn a decent return, gotchas, etc?
Excellent video as usual, and so informative. I had some great dental work done in Chang Mai years ago, would have cost me considerably more in the UK. I'm currently toying with the idea of going to Thailand for heart surgery, that in the UK will cost £20k, but in Thailand £6k, alas I can't get it done on the NHS as it's deemed not life threatening, but it impacts my scuba diving.
@@glendahill I hope you were like my mom who had both replaced, years apart. She was moving around almost immediately on one and on the other, if took a few weeks to feel right, but fine now.
I really appreciate it! Thanks. I hope you will click the Share button under the video and share it on Facebook and your social media if you think some of your friends might benefit as well. Thanks.
Was reading a comment from down below about other UA-camrs who just "walk with a camera and talk". Funny you mention that as I was watching one of those yesterday, and thought this was no way to be a UA-camr, and just looked at his numbrers (pretty bad). Then my next thought went to you, and for a moment I considered commenting on his channel and suggesting he watch your channel to learn how it should be done. Mind you I said "considered". But of course I have too much class to do such a thing.
Ah there are many great "walk and talk" UA-camrs. The key is what they are saying. Joy and I have our share of talking as we walk sometimes. Thanks for the nice comment and come again.
Hello Randy, great video. Lot's of wonderful information. I'll only ask one question. Do you need a medical card if you plan to buy insurance in Thailand? I've given up on the idea of trying to use my Medicare in Thailand. Thai insurance will be received by the hospital quicker and less hassle.
Thank you for this very important content. So many people whisk themselves off to far flung destinations for long vacations and don't think about how they would manage an accident or health event. This was a very practical guide for those who have their wits about them and can make decisions for themselves. Which brings me to my question: What if you can't make these decisions. What if you are unconscious and in an ambulance in say Chiang Mai or Bangkok... how is a decision made about where to take you?? I would self-insure but you can't have your bank balance tattooed on your forehead whenever you leave your home.
Good question but I'd guess the same problem exists anywhere in the world. I'd guess a duty to keep someone alive until they do have their wits about them. I know some people wear health tag necklaces regarding certain medical alerts, but beyond that I don't have an answer. Thanks for comment. Hope to see you here again.
If you are unconscious and you are taken to a private hospital in Thailand there is a high chance you will be moved to a government hospital after they are unable to get an upfront payment from you. This happened recently in Thailand and resulted in the death of the person. You will never face this issue in the west. It's illegal to refuse emergency treatment to a person in need. In Asia, things are different.
@@userdhss-hsjs there are many very high quality public hospitals in Thailand…. But you should always have emergency contact info on your person whenever you are traveling…
@@rdefacendis I disagree. I don't think you have thought things out carefully. I would not want to be in any Thai hospital for a serious emergency, including private. And that assumes you even make it there on time because Thais don't pull over for ambulances like they do with western nations. Many times people die in the ambulance because of traffic jams. Also, what if a person is robbed of their wallet and then assaulted and left unconscious? What if you forget your emergency contact info and you get hit by a car? What if they can't reach your emergency contact and you die while waiting? It's extremely dangerous to be in a country where you can be refused medical treatment because you are unconscious and cannot provide upfront payment from if you simply cannot pay upfront. It's pretty barbaric in my opinion. You are blaming the victim.
@@userdhss-hsjs What is your evidence to support a conclusion that Thai hospitals are inferior or unsafe? Where are you pulling patient outcome data from? What comparisons have you done between the Thai health system and other health systems around the world? Are you aware that Thailand is one of the leading destinations around the world for medical tourism? In my country people die every day in emergency waiting rooms because it takes hours just to be seen by a doctor... Looking forward to reviewing your independent, comparative patient outcomes data.
As a Thai, I can confirm that it is true about the same doctor working at a private hospital AND a public one. Many of them do that. But even for Thais, sometimes we prefer to go to private hospitals because we have to wait longer to get a room or see the doctor at the public hospital. The doctor I go to for my botox and filler injections (at his clinic) works as a neurologist at a hospital so I am in good hands.
I live in Central Bangkok and I love Bumrungrad. Yeah I know it’s expensive but I always remind myself. I could be in some crappy Kaiser hospital back in San Fran. and when was the last time you received a $10 lunch voucher for a restaurant downstairs because your doctor was 20 minutes late🤣🙏
A few years ago, under General Prajut, a law was supposedly passed and also published in the Royal Gazette, according to which pensioners without previous work in Thailand are allowed to pay a surcharge of up to maximal +400% on the Thai price in all government and private hospitals to demand. I once experienced this in a government clinic in Bangkok, my better half paid 450 TB for a tooth extraction. I even paid the same doctor 1450 TB in the same clinic. Is it still done that way today?? Would it be interesting to know that and perhaps publish a list of clinics that don't charge the overprice? I remember a case where a foreigner with cancer had to pay this surcharge for his treatment, he went to court and was told that he had to pay it because it would be for the BENEFIT of Thailand...his widow inherited the debts Treatment.
@@RetiredGlobalLife It would be nice if you could investigate and see if this is real.. I think many people would be grateful for some clarification.....I hope for your research. Thank you and greetings to the north
@@RetiredGlobalLife Published in October 2024, state clinics are allowed to charge up to 4 times the price for foreigners or tourists, but by law they don't have to... this still seem to be legal.
Alas not. Despite being relatively young to have the op, I'm still in pain 5 months down the line, but this is due to tendon issues rather than the op itself. I'm told 6 months at least before it gets better. Thankfully I don't need the other one doing I've still got 3 camping trips planned for this year, so it's not holding me back
Thanks, Gary. I hope it is helpful for you. If you know others who are interested in Thailand I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media.
@@RetiredGlobalLife Randy thank you for taking the time not only to put together the research and content for that video, really, but also for taking the time to reply individually. That generosity itself warrants a reply from my morning coffee up here. With a view to retiring in the kingdom from later this year, your smiles and content do go a long way. As a cyclist, if I decide upon a future home base in CM, I'd love to buy you both a coffee. Until then take care and best wishes, Gary, Beijing
Hey Randy I was in Pattaya December 2022 and contracted Dengue Fever .. I ended up in Bangkok-Pattaya in Pattaya Hospital for a week and during my recovery the Doc said the likelihood of contracting it again if visiting Thailand again is almost guaranteed .. I returned to Thailand in April 2023 and spent all my time in Bangkok without recurrence but I’m also returning to Bangkok & Co in July this year 2024 so I am a bit concerned about getting this mostly tropical disease as it does knock you around .. Are you aware of any vaccination in Thailand and where would you recommend I go upon my return in July ?? Thanks
I can't advise you on vaccinations, etc. But I think that is transferred from mosquitos, so use Picaridin. Harder to find in Thailand but easy in the US. Better than DEET and no smell and no side effects like DEET. Watch my mosquito video for mor info if you want.
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About anywhere in the world they will restrict re pre-existing conditions. Sometimes no coverage sometimes a wait period. Ask Natt the agent, or an agent you trust. Take care.
I am getting ready to retire and was wondering if I should keep my FEHB health insurance into retirement if Thai medical services are so cheap. US insurance even the FEHB for retirement government employees are very expensive. Is in more cost effective to instead get Thai insurance or pay out of pocket? Been healthy most of my life.
I certainly would not give it up until you've actually lived here for an extended period, and find out if you can re-start your FEHB once giving it up. Is there a continuing penalty like with Medicare to give up and reclaim?
Yes, I believe a normal ambulance with a nurse or attending person is about $1,500-2,800 baht. So usually about $45-80. I'm sure it varies. If an emergency most insurances will cover it.
There are many carriers who cover not just Thailand but Asia, or the world, but often excluding the US. AIA is quite good, but talk to agents for the others. It is key they tell you that you can rely on them not renewing your policy if you turn very ill. I think Pacific Cross is one that is seen as reliable in that category as well, but I don't want to list specific carriers as an agent can answer you best.
I did not understand this about using pharmacy outside hospital, when I have been at a hospital and get treated, then they say go to the payment office and pay and here they also give you pills and other medicine - do I say to the doctor after treatment that I just need the name of the medicine cos I want to buy otherwhere ?
No everyone gets prescriptions at the hospital, but if you do, you have the option to get almost every presription at an outside pharmacy. Just say that is your plan and ask for a prescription (even if not usually required it is good to have re dosage, etc).
Sorry, Derek, Pattaya is not in the region where I live so I don't know if there is a best government option. Usually if there is a university hospital, they are better than a regular public hospital. Best wishes.
I've been told hospitals have an obligation to save a life and can't deny treatment. But I've also heard of hospitals being quite cold about the $-side of things before treatment. So it depends on where you go I'd guess. But the usual cases I hear when $ is a problem is that treatment was given and then the patient admits (I'm talking about Westerners) they don't have enough $ to pay. Some hospitals will actually force you to stay until you pay, which seems sort of counter-productive, but it is what it is. I guess they think as a non-Thai that is their best way to get paid.
This might be the first video to point out the doctors you find at fancy private hospitals in Thailand are actually the same doctors who work at non-fancy govt hospitals. So true!
Thanks! Sounds like you know these things too. Feel free to share any insight you have here for others to read. I'm sure there are things I did not mention that would be helpful.
For those wondering why doctors don't quit the govt facilities altogether and go work in private ones because apparently the money at the latter is much better. Well, there are a number of reasons. 1 younger doctors owe it to the govt for subsidising their 6 years of training in the uni's 2. there's indeed a prestigious air to being part of big govt facilities. Yes, the money is less but the proverbial fancy headgears will open doors to money eventually. The fact that they work at established public hospitals is the reason why they got a gig at private ones in the first place. 3. I may be naive here but I was unfortunate enough to spend a few nights at a big state hospital recently. I don't know but based on my observation, doctors there do care about us patients who pay zero to 30 Baht for all of the treatments and services we have got. They're meticulous. They check everything. It felt genuine there. Oh btw, I do keep hearing about how private facilities have a habit of referring life-and-death operations to public ones.
Chiang Mai never feels to me like the second largest and Pattaya looks and feels bigger. But the official stats say Chiang Mai. I think it is because CM is so spread out and Pattaya is more congested but in much less space. Who knows, statistics can be played with and I'm not sure who they exactly draw up city lines.
You have to note that Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya is not in the top 30. I found out that management must differ in their branches, though I can't complain about nurses and physicians.
Yes, some companies may refuse to renew policies for costly/sick patients, which is not ethical. This is more likely to happen with offshore companies IMO, than good Thai companies. A good agent can tell you the reliable companies. But self insure with own money is an option for many who can't get insurance.
On a tourist visa before COVID. My Thai wife took me to a hospital in Chiang Mai (don't remember which) for fluid in my lungs. Walked in gave passport, chest x-ray in ten minutes, sat and waited 10 or 15 minutes for doctor (female / Thai / spoke English), she already had imagine on her monitor, told me I had fluid in my lungs, I said I know, wrote out 5 prescriptions, another 10 to 15 minute wait, picked up the 5 prescriptions, another 10 to 15 minute wait, paid my $125., and out. So, again, foreigner, walk-in, x-ray, doctor, 5 prescriptions, $125., all within a couple of hours...maybe. Best thing out if all of that?... Immediately cleared up my lung issue that I had been fighting fir months.
@@RetiredGlobalLifeThank you for the excellent video and your response. Query... When someone such as you says they will "leave a link", on my phone I look and can never find the link mentioned. So, in this case I am extremely interested in your comment about the medicaid "secret". Can I talk you into directing me to this video? Thanx. Tony P.S....Live on the Big Island of Hawaii and have small house in Chyaiphum.
@@anthonylutz118 Sorry it should have been in the description but maybe not visible on the phone. I likely meant this one: ua-cam.com/video/aNu4-RWQ91I/v-deo.html
I’m definitely not into luxury and public hospitals are fine for me. I asked my insurance where they wanted me to go. They said bumrungrad. Ok, why not? lol
Do you mean my birth country, the USA? We have both great and terrible health care. The problem it is so, so costly, and not accessible to all. Thailand has very affordable health care, from fancy clinics to government facilities.
@@RetiredGlobalLife i was last month in a private one in Nongkhai,they rip me off only with the medicine who gave for used at home,afther i look on google about the price,i can found them on the lazada site too,,its a big shame how they tread fralangs,any way I from Holland,a lot better organize then here in Thailand.
I am considering cosmetic surgery with Lotus medical in Phuket , with a qualified doctor Dr Piyapas . Would like your feedback, they appear very professional and helpful answering all my inquiries.
Hi Randy How do I contact you. Do you have an email address. We are coming to Chiang Mai next week and looking to move to Chiang Mai so looking for some advice. Thanks Richard and Debbie
My email is RetiredGlobalLife@gmail.com. Beware though this is not Chiang Mai's best time. Smokey season and hot. The hot is okay but the smoke is not.
Another viewer commented what about Thai men for western men... So yes both are there, but most westerners going to Thailand just happen to be men. Didn't mean to leave out the ladies. (:
Had the same treatment in North Carolina hospital, 3 hours later the bill if paid off in 30 days was reduced to just over $10,000.00 USD. That's right, 10 fn grand.😡
Let me know how your call goes. I think you will find him very personable and knowledgeable. It is important for us Westerners to have key Thai people for guidance in certain areas.
The problem with retiring in a developing country like Thailand is that when you're old, health issues become frequent. Thai medical is okay for standard issues but I would never have a heart operation there. People really need to think twice before they believe all of the claims being made about these countries on UA-cam. Do some real research. Things are frightening. Maybe a holiday but not for long term living.
Thanks for the input. A heart operation is scary anywhere but if I had the right doctor and hospital, where ever I was, I'd be confident. And Thailand to me has quality care. Do you live here? Used the high-level hospitals? I arrived full of doubt but it left me after two hospital visits. I would not be happy in a public Thai hospital, nor a bad county public hospital in the west. But a private hospital in Thailand, or private clinic at a Thai public university hospital, I'd be more confident there over a low grade US hospital. Check out the unbiased international rating organizations and decide for yourself.
@@RetiredGlobalLife I have used the "high-level hospitals" and I was actually shocked how low level they are in regards to knowing high level things, versus my expectations which came from people on UA-cam saying they are high quality. Superficially things may look and seem good, but if you know a good deal about medicine and you talk to the doctors and staff you will soon realize that they are a few notches below doctors in the west. Again, routine things are fine and preferable over US hospitals due to cost and better service. But life and death matters, no way. As far as checking with "unbiased" ratings, I know enough about medicine to know what I have seen is not so good in Thailand. Also I don't believe there are any unbiased international rating organizations. They are all on someone's payroll. Even the Michelin star rating system in Asia has been corrupted and is now meaningless. I have been living in Asia for quite a while and I understand the corruption and lawlessness. Companies can get away with anything in Asia because there are no consumer protection laws. As far as "low grade US hospitals" you say you don't have confidence in, what is low grade? All of the doctors must pass their board exams. The mean difference in hospitals in the US is how they look, how long the lines are and who they serve. There is a very high standard for everything in the US except customer service (used to be great). The only hospital I would trust in Thailand is Bumrungrad, but not for a heart operation unless I had no choice. Also, Bumrungrad is starting to get expensive.
@@jinlakitikorn8715 Lack of knowledge of standards of care from staff including doctors. Unless you have a good understanding of medicine you aren't likely to detect the issues. Also keep in mind that Thailand essentially has no tort laws so companies (including hospitals and doctors) are not liable for malpractice or mistakes, such as removing the wrong kidney, etc. This reduces accountability tends to increase medical error. You will never hear about malpractice in Thailand because it's not like the US which is very transparent. Many things are hidden in Thailand. The more you know about it the scarier it becomes.
@@jinlakitikorn8715 Too many to list and many need detailed explanations. But basically I had this idea of Thailand based on what I saw on UA-cam. Things turned out much different after I lived there and came to learn things you never hear about on UA-cam. I learned not to use UA-cam as a source of anything.
For sure, but doctors in Thailand do not have independent offices normally, so the search for a doctor starts at the hospital. Even routine appointments are usually done at a hospital.
@@RetiredGlobalLifeindeed true and well described, and same in all of southeast asia: find the hospital first and the physician follows for both outpatient and inpatient care. “you’re not in kansas anymore,” thank god.
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I will try to cover this topic in my YT Channel as well in german .. Of corse i will mention your Video!
@@sedw Thank you. The link to JCI is in the description and you can just google Joint Commission International hospital ratings. Same with Newsweek 2024 hospital rankings.
Best wishes to your channel.
If you. check with the hospitals in the hospital video they will have them on staff. Then you can check them out as you would any doctor. Best wishes.
Everyone has different experiences
I have used both big and small government hospitals and the private hospitals in Chiang mai
My experience has been that the government hospitals have long waits and then can be either 'sent away' to a private hospital or passed around, asked for a scan (we have a machine but no one to use it) as like all public services is underfunded, staff were great but it was a long uncertain drawn out process.
also seeing the same dried blood on the ER curtains two months after my first visit, funding it seems is in short supply.
My experience with the Bangkok Hospital in Chiang Mai has been fantastic, quick, efficient and cannot fault, saw consultant in the morning had CT scan and operation in the afternoon - but you pay for it.
The local medical centres in villages are great for small issues like removing stiches and wound care and cost very little.
i would now been through all of them go back to the Bangkok Hospital in Chiang Mai.
Sounds like you are thinking about what I described. Have you tried Sriphat? Lower cost than Bangkok Hospital but a very good rep.
Great editing. Great videos, great humor. An acquaintance was hospitalized and had an emergency double bypass. No insurance... He was in a private room and stayed for 9 days. Out of pocket was roughly 8k. This included follow up visits. Worth every penny.
Thanks for the nice comments and glad you got my jokes. (: Thanks for sharing the story about the double bypass. Glad to have real life stores about this.
@@RetiredGlobalLife keep up the good work, i applaud a good sense oh humor. Upon our return in June, my wife and I would like to see you both at a meet and greet, or something to that effect.
Top tier content and I have subbed as a result. My 4 significant interfaces with the Thai medical system has been better than anything I have had in Australia.
At the moment a maybe maybe not cataract check in the hospital is 3 years 😢
I'm glad you had good experiences as I did. And glad to have you as a subscriber. I hope you will keep commenting. Thanks for the nice compliment.
What a cool video Randy, thanks for making it. I had emergency kidney stone surgery at Bangkok Hospital Chonburi 2 years ago and the experience was amazing. I had 2 experienced surgeons, morphine and sponge baths for 3 days by the adorable Thai nurses. Total cost was 1/5th of what the equivalent care would have cost here in the states. Bangkok Hospital participates with BCBS international core, so I was reimbursed at in-network rates too.
Thanks, Peter, and so glad your surgery went so well. So you have a BCBS international plan? Did you buy it in Thailand or in your home country?
@@RetiredGlobalLife Yes I have a BCBS plan here in America, with international coverage while traveling.
@@Peter-tm7zp Are you talking about an Advantage plan or Medicare Type G plan, where it is just for emergencies?
@@RetiredGlobalLife No, not Medicare. My plan is still through my employer, but it comes with international coverage while traveling, for emergencies mostly. Important to note, at the time of the incident I had a separate travel emergency insurance policy that denied coverage. Travelers should be warned that travel/emergency policies have exclusions, for things like calcifications like stones, or cancer, or pregnancy.
This is my favorite Thailand channel. Thank you.
What a nice compliment. I'm going to mail your comment to Chris Parker, haha. My videos are better when Joy is in them. Solo for me on this one.
The same for me. ❤
I lost it at the Constipation song my buddy…that was seriously hilarious. I’m looking to get hardware removal surgery on my ankle possibly at Hua Hin Government Hospital. Thanks for the truly informative, entertaining video and the warm delivery style I’m a fan my friend and God Bless you and all your subscribers! Shout out from 🇨🇦
Thanks, Derrick from Canada! Few commented on my funny little song, so big thanks for that. My humor goes right by many...
Great information Randy. Thanks for making the video and passing along the terrific information
Glad it was helpful! Thanks, Jerry.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is a very, very important topic! I'm sure many viewers would also be interested in knowing about nursing home options in Thailand.
Ah one subject at a time, haha. Thanks!
Randy….HOLY CRAP!!!! Thank you so much for the work you put into this. As I sit here in Chiang Mai, ready for complete relocation to hear next month, this video came at the perfect time. I need to buy you a coffee or lunch. Look forward to seeing you ‘LIVE’ and not on my little screen. Thank you again.
Thanks, Jody! Yes, lots of editing and research for that one. Please share it on Facebook or wherever with others who might benefit. I hope it helps a lot of people.
Great, great video Randy. Thanks for doing all the research and hard work to make it.
That is very nice of you, Andrew, and yes, it was a lot of work. I want to be one of those UA-camrs who just walk with their camera for ten minutes and that is their complete video. Life would be easier, haha. I hope you share it on your social media if you know others who might be interested in the subject.
New subscriber Randy, enjoyed the video very much. In 2005 I stayed 3-days at Queen SiriKit Hospital in Sattahip in a private room, and the staff, and especially the doctors were great! And it was a fraction of the cost, even though then I had BUPA.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Alan, and glad all went well.
Thank you so very much for doing all of this research and presenting so well - with just a side note of humor! I can see from this video how much you feel at home in Chiang Mai and how much you want to share that feeling. Great job!
Thank you Mr. Rockey! Always a great pleasure to hear from you.
Great Video and many useful tips . I have used Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok , expensive but great service . For pharmacy in Bangkok Chula is reliable and cheap or order online , I use Medisafe , they mail to Koh Samui . Key tip for insurance , get it when you are fit and healthy .
Thanks. Good advice re insurance,. Stay well and enjoy Koh Samui. Joy and I enjoyed our trip there a few months ago.
Once again an excellent video, full of information and practical advice.
But watch out, Randy, I can swear I saw Joy's portrait behind you frowning at 15:15 and 26:53! I wouldn't want to see your name in the news pages, like "a Thai woman slits the throat of her American fiancé!"
Haha, you are too funny. She knows where my heart is. I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media and get this info out to people who can use it.
Excellent infomative video. Thanks for putting it all together and sharing it. Fun to watch too. Hats off to you Randy.
Big thanks! I try to put out some real informative videos. I hope if you know others who are interested in Thailand you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media. Thanks!
Outstanding, Randy! Thank you sir! You are very helpful for those hoping to retire in Thailand
Thanks! I thrive on compliments!! (: Hope to see you here again.
Thank you for your very informative video. I too, have found Chiang Mai Ram hospital to provide excellent healthcare.
Good to hear from you, Rob. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this info! May God bless you and your channel ❤
Very kind of you, thanks.
Awesome video Randy, much appreciated!
Thanks, Kevin! I appreciate it.
This is some really solid info - I had no clue about the public facility options which foreigners can visit. You are correct that many expat vloggers speak to the private options and not so much about the public hospitals. Great content sir!
Thanks Leo. Appreciated. If you know others who are interested in Thailand I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media. I hope many can learn from this.
Very good video Randy and thanks for sharing, you are also a funny humorous guy, I like you vids, Greetings from Germany Michael, PS: Hope to move to Thailand next year.🤩👍
Hi Michael, I hope you make it here. And thank you for the nice comment.
Excellent informative video, it covers so much in the time. I will be checking out the other videos later. Thanks .
Thanks, Alan. Visit again.
Excellent content and information. Thanks for taking the time to share! You just earned a new subscriber.
Thanks and welcome. Very kind of you. I look forward to your future comments and sharing.
Thanks! Hope the video blows up and goes viral and will help you grow your channel as deserved! Cheers 🙏🏻🙂☀️
You and me both! Hospital videos won't go viral but I hope it will be helpful. If you know others who are interested in Thailand I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media. That will help it grow and educate people at the same time.
Thank you for a very informative and extremely important video for those of us looking to move and reside in Thailand. I recently returned from a trip to Thailand for the purpose of deciding where in Thailand I plan to retire in. Chiang Mai was high on my list of retirement cities. Your video reinforces my decision. All the best.
Thanks! And very smart of you to make an advance trip to test the waters before you actually move. I love Thailand but it is not for everyone. We are all looking for completely different things and lifestyles. Even Thailand is not one size fits all.
@@RetiredGlobalLife Thank you, Randy. I traveled around to several cities in Thailand during my 3 week stay last November. I really liked Chiang Mai and met several Thai residents there and they were extremely friendly and helpful in showing me around the city. We have kept in touch since and I told them that I am planning to return to Thailand to retire there. They offered to help me find a place to live and get settled. They are the warmest folks ever and I am truly looking forward to returning back soon. Hope to meet you and your beautiful wife one day in Chiang Mai. Take care.
Went to the ER one night at 4AM for what I thought was flu. Within 120 seconds literally, I had been checked in and already had a bed. Within 20 minutes, I had seen a nurse, doctor and had tests run. Within 30 minutes, I had paid my bill and and received meds and was told it was an upper respiratory infection. Total cost including meds? 84 bucks. Costs more to put gas in my car.
Ah, you are a walking advertisement for Thailand healthcare, haha. Thanks for the story. What city and hospital treated you so wonderfully?
another excellent video, thank you. the description of the thai hospital system tracks that found in indonesia, but the overall quality of care is way higher in thailand. many indonesians get non-emergency medical care in malaysia now as singapore is too expensive, and no language barrier exists between indonesia and malaysia.
Helpful info. Thanks.
Just clicked on to watch I been waiting for this ..thinking about getting job there
Thanks! It can be hard to get a job there as a westerner, except teaching English, which is a good job if you like teaching.
Hi Randy,
checking in from Krabi on vacation .
What a great video again!
I can underwrite everything you report. And I'm not even an insurance underwriter but unfortunately over the years I had used many of the hospitals you mentioned ,both in Bangkok and in Chiang Mai.
Obviously private hospitals are in business for profits so their prices are much higher than public hospitals. Their services on the presentation side can be like 5 star hotels and Bamrungrad is a prime example .
From my perspective, based on experience , is that they tend to do overservicing to maximise profits .
Much more than other private hospitals.
Other than the quality of medical expertise, which is the most important, and that goes for every country, it depends on a couple of things.
1. The training they received and where.
2. Their empathy and bedside manner .
So on 1.
If the hospital website lists the doctors profiles you can check out where and what year they graduated and their career moves plus any additional trainings ,some in America, the UK and other Western counties. That means a lot to me.
On 2. This is important , particularly if you're a long term resident.
When I find a doctor who I have a good rapport with and a lot of female doctors seem very empathic, maybe to do with culture and their maternal upbringing, I ask them if they could become my primary health provider. They can always transfer me to the right specialist by recommendation. After all they know the right doctors better than me .
One more comment..
Your health care and rehabilitation is also affected by your mental state due to anxiety.
So the level of care and ambiance in a private hospital plus much less waiting time is very beneficail to you and your recovery.
Probably worth spending a bit more if you uninsured but can afford it .
Ah and thanks for the plug . It helped my mental state!😜
Glad you saw my shout out! Thanks for all your comment above as well. I keep telling Joy I want to go to Krabi but she keeps picking other places. One day soon I hope to check it out. Have fun my friend.
Top notch info thank you! I have heard several people say Sriphat is #1 in Chiang Mai
Thanks, Jeff! yes, it is #1 many say.
Thanks Randy, fascinating insights, advice and information. thanks again for all your hard work putting this info together.
That's very nice of you. Thanks!
Great video…I was about to comment that the video was lacking just one topic, the cost of hospital pharmacy vs. outside pharmacy, then you covered that too at the end.
Glad I escaped a scolding from you on, that, haha. I hope it was helpful! Take care.
Thank you for the Info/Video. Just great. I move in September to Bangkok.
Enjoy the big city. Lots to do there. I enjoy the non central areas near the river but don't like the concrete jungle portion.
Fantastic info! Your channel is the "go-to" source for real, useful Thailand info. Keep it coming... Any prospect of doing something on best banks, best type of account for expats, how to open an acct, how to earn a decent return, gotchas, etc?
Actually yes I hope to to a bank one soon but likely several months away. Thanks!
Thank you very much I’m just about to go to Thailand for good 👍
I'm glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much for this very very informative video and for the efforts put in in making it. It is full of useful tips !
Thanks so much! I appreciate it.
Excellent video as usual, and so informative. I had some great dental work done in Chang Mai years ago, would have cost me considerably more in the UK. I'm currently toying with the idea of going to Thailand for heart surgery, that in the UK will cost £20k, but in Thailand £6k, alas I can't get it done on the NHS as it's deemed not life threatening, but it impacts my scuba diving.
Surgery is never fun so good luck on that, whether in the UK or here in Thailand. Hope you are back in the water soon!
Thanks. Surgery is a nightmare, I've just had my hip replaced!
@@glendahill I hope you were like my mom who had both replaced, years apart. She was moving around almost immediately on one and on the other, if took a few weeks to feel right, but fine now.
I will make sure to go to the Chiang Mai hospital with the nurses.
Haha, do it!
An excellent analysis
Thank you, Bryan. Hope to see you again here.
Really great information Randy!
I hope you’ve overcome your constipation😂
Thanks for your vulnerability!
Haha, Ted, thanks for reminding me!
VERY GOOD AND INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU.
I really appreciate it! Thanks. I hope you will click the Share button under the video and share it on Facebook and your social media if you think some of your friends might benefit as well. Thanks.
I agree on all comments on Bangkok hospital comments totally fantastic service
Hey, Andrew, thanks! Good to hear from you. Stay happy in Bangkok.
My one experience was with BNH in Bangkok and it was quite good.
Glad to hear it, Ben. Thanks for the comment!
Never any big queues in the hospitals , clean , friendly and helpful 😊 yes for sure , some great eye candy a lot of hospital staff 😅
Thanks, Jon. Hope to see you again here.
Thumbs up 👍 Randy
Thanks as always, Mango. Always nice to hear from you.
Good video this thanks. I use Paolo hospital near me for small issues , blood tests & check ups but am aware yes can go to others ..
I don't know that one. Thanks for sharing for those in your region.
Thanks for sharing ❤❤❤
You are so welcome.
This information is gold 🙏🏾
Very kind of you, Julian. Thanks.
Super important video thanks a million
Big thanks!
great information thank you!!!
You are so welcome! I appreciate it.
Was reading a comment from down below about other UA-camrs who just "walk with a camera and talk". Funny you mention that as I was watching one of those yesterday, and thought this was no way to be a UA-camr, and just looked at his numbrers (pretty bad). Then my next thought went to you, and for a moment I considered commenting on his channel and suggesting he watch your channel to learn how it should be done. Mind you I said "considered".
But of course I have too much class to do such a thing.
Ah there are many great "walk and talk" UA-camrs. The key is what they are saying. Joy and I have our share of talking as we walk sometimes. Thanks for the nice comment and come again.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks.
Great job!
Thanks! Such a looooong video to record. Lots of information to give out.
Hello Randy, great video. Lot's of wonderful information. I'll only ask one question. Do you need a medical card if you plan to buy insurance in Thailand? I've given up on the idea of trying to use my Medicare in Thailand. Thai insurance will be received by the hospital quicker and less hassle.
A membership card likely would not be necessary if you have insurance. Look for a carrier with direct pay to contract hospitals. Much more convenient.
Subbed, good video.
Thanks, Keith. Hope to see you here commenting again.
Thank you for this very important content. So many people whisk themselves off to far flung destinations for long vacations and don't think about how they would manage an accident or health event. This was a very practical guide for those who have their wits about them and can make decisions for themselves. Which brings me to my question: What if you can't make these decisions. What if you are unconscious and in an ambulance in say Chiang Mai or Bangkok... how is a decision made about where to take you?? I would self-insure but you can't have your bank balance tattooed on your forehead whenever you leave your home.
Good question but I'd guess the same problem exists anywhere in the world. I'd guess a duty to keep someone alive until they do have their wits about them. I know some people wear health tag necklaces regarding certain medical alerts, but beyond that I don't have an answer. Thanks for comment. Hope to see you here again.
If you are unconscious and you are taken to a private hospital in Thailand there is a high chance you will be moved to a government hospital after they are unable to get an upfront payment from you. This happened recently in Thailand and resulted in the death of the person. You will never face this issue in the west. It's illegal to refuse emergency treatment to a person in need. In Asia, things are different.
@@userdhss-hsjs there are many very high quality public hospitals in Thailand…. But you should always have emergency contact info on your person whenever you are traveling…
@@rdefacendis I disagree. I don't think you have thought things out carefully. I would not want to be in any Thai hospital for a serious emergency, including private. And that assumes you even make it there on time because Thais don't pull over for ambulances like they do with western nations. Many times people die in the ambulance because of traffic jams. Also, what if a person is robbed of their wallet and then assaulted and left unconscious? What if you forget your emergency contact info and you get hit by a car? What if they can't reach your emergency contact and you die while waiting? It's extremely dangerous to be in a country where you can be refused medical treatment because you are unconscious and cannot provide upfront payment from if you simply cannot pay upfront. It's pretty barbaric in my opinion. You are blaming the victim.
@@userdhss-hsjs What is your evidence to support a conclusion that Thai hospitals are inferior or unsafe? Where are you pulling patient outcome data from? What comparisons have you done between the Thai health system and other health systems around the world?
Are you aware that Thailand is one of the leading destinations around the world for medical tourism? In my country people die every day in emergency waiting rooms because it takes hours just to be seen by a doctor...
Looking forward to reviewing your independent, comparative patient outcomes data.
As a Thai, I can confirm that it is true about the same doctor working at a private hospital AND a public one. Many of them do that. But even for Thais, sometimes we prefer to go to private hospitals because we have to wait longer to get a room or see the doctor at the public hospital. The doctor I go to for my botox and filler injections (at his clinic) works as a neurologist at a hospital so I am in good hands.
Thanks for the verification!
I live in Central Bangkok and I love Bumrungrad. Yeah I know it’s expensive but I always remind myself. I could be in some crappy Kaiser hospital back in San Fran. and when was the last time you received a $10 lunch voucher for a restaurant downstairs because your doctor was 20 minutes late🤣🙏
Haha, great comment.
A few years ago, under General Prajut, a law was supposedly passed and also published in the Royal Gazette, according to which pensioners without previous work in Thailand are allowed to pay a surcharge of up to maximal +400% on the Thai price in all government and private hospitals to demand.
I once experienced this in a government clinic in Bangkok, my better half paid 450 TB for a tooth extraction. I even paid the same doctor 1450 TB in the same clinic.
Is it still done that way today??
Would it be interesting to know that and perhaps publish a list of clinics that don't charge the overprice?
I remember a case where a foreigner with cancer had to pay this surcharge for his treatment, he went to court and was told that he had to pay it because it would be for the BENEFIT of Thailand...his widow inherited the debts Treatment.
I have never heard of that law. Interesting.
@@RetiredGlobalLife
It would be nice if you could investigate and see if this is real..
I think many people would be grateful for some clarification.....I hope for your research. Thank you and greetings to the north
@@RetiredGlobalLife
Published in October 2024, state clinics are allowed to charge up to 4 times the price for foreigners or tourists, but by law they don't have to... this still seem to be legal.
Alas not. Despite being relatively young to have the op, I'm still in pain 5 months down the line, but this is due to tendon issues rather than the op itself. I'm told 6 months at least before it gets better. Thankfully I don't need the other one doing
I've still got 3 camping trips planned for this year, so it's not holding me back
Good luck and have fun camping!
Have u ever try public hospital in bangkok. I suggest Chula hospital that have good medical
Thanks for the suggestion.
good stuff!!!
Thanks, Gus!
Wonderful, thank you ☕️🤝🙏
Thanks, Gary. I hope it is helpful for you. If you know others who are interested in Thailand I hope you will use the Share button under the video and share it on your Facebook or other social media.
@@RetiredGlobalLife Randy thank you for taking the time not only to put together the research and content for that video, really, but also for taking the time to reply individually. That generosity itself warrants a reply from my morning coffee up here. With a view to retiring in the kingdom from later this year, your smiles and content do go a long way. As a cyclist, if I decide upon a future home base in CM, I'd love to buy you both a coffee. Until then take care and best wishes, Gary, Beijing
@@Caferide1 Thanks. Well I will hope we will find ourselves in town and free at the same time. Best wishes.
I keep pressing the like button nothing no change
Thanks, Kathy. Hmmm, you must have a YT account if you are commenting, so I don't know. If you press it twice it cancels the like.
Hey Randy
I was in Pattaya December 2022 and contracted Dengue Fever ..
I ended up in Bangkok-Pattaya in Pattaya Hospital for a week and during my recovery the Doc said the likelihood of contracting it again if visiting Thailand again is almost guaranteed ..
I returned to Thailand in April 2023 and spent all my time in Bangkok without recurrence but I’m also returning to Bangkok & Co in July this year 2024 so I am a bit concerned about getting this mostly tropical disease as it does knock you around ..
Are you aware of any vaccination in Thailand and where would you recommend I go upon my return in July ??
Thanks
I can't advise you on vaccinations, etc. But I think that is transferred from mosquitos, so use Picaridin. Harder to find in Thailand but easy in the US. Better than DEET and no smell and no side effects like DEET. Watch my mosquito video for mor info if you want.
Can you recommend medical insurance to get when moving to Thailand ?
Not one company or policy is best for all. I can give a high recommendation to Natt, an ins agent. He is very honest and hardworking and cares about getting the right policy that you need based on your desires and budget. Tell him Randy from Retired Global Life sent you and he will take even better care of you. (:
Natt Tassana
Tenzing Pacific Services
+66 0 955749640
ten-pac.com/referral/retired-global-life/
@@RetiredGlobalLife ty much sir
What about preexisting issues? Will they drop you have one case? I have heard horror stories.
About anywhere in the world they will restrict re pre-existing conditions. Sometimes no coverage sometimes a wait period. Ask Natt the agent, or an agent you trust. Take care.
Thanks for super quick response
I am getting ready to retire and was wondering if I should keep my FEHB health insurance into retirement if Thai medical services are so cheap. US insurance even the FEHB for retirement government employees are very expensive. Is in more cost effective to instead get Thai insurance or pay out of pocket? Been healthy most of my life.
I certainly would not give it up until you've actually lived here for an extended period, and find out if you can re-start your FEHB once giving it up. Is there a continuing penalty like with Medicare to give up and reclaim?
How much do you pay for ambulance for emergency or like transport to outpatients ? Any ideas
Yes, I believe a normal ambulance with a nurse or attending person is about $1,500-2,800 baht. So usually about $45-80. I'm sure it varies. If an emergency most insurances will cover it.
Would you say those top private hospitals in Thailand are as good as Scripps in San Diego?
I would say Bumrungrad is better. The others I'm not sure.
What about best insurances in thailand or for travel in asia?
There are many carriers who cover not just Thailand but Asia, or the world, but often excluding the US. AIA is quite good, but talk to agents for the others. It is key they tell you that you can rely on them not renewing your policy if you turn very ill. I think Pacific Cross is one that is seen as reliable in that category as well, but I don't want to list specific carriers as an agent can answer you best.
I did not understand this about using pharmacy outside hospital, when I have been at a hospital and get treated, then they say go to the payment office and pay and here they also give you pills and other medicine - do I say to the doctor after treatment that I just need the name of the medicine cos I want to buy otherwhere ?
No everyone gets prescriptions at the hospital, but if you do, you have the option to get almost every presription at an outside pharmacy. Just say that is your plan and ask for a prescription (even if not usually required it is good to have re dosage, etc).
How to find endocrinologist in Thailand?
If it were me I'd pick one of the better hospitals, see who they have on staff in that field, then check them out.
What government hospital do you recommend in Pattaya or sataheep
Sorry, Derek, Pattaya is not in the region where I live so I don't know if there is a best government option. Usually if there is a university hospital, they are better than a regular public hospital. Best wishes.
Will hospitals admit you and save your life in an emergency without money upfront or just let you die like in the Philippines?
I've been told hospitals have an obligation to save a life and can't deny treatment. But I've also heard of hospitals being quite cold about the $-side of things before treatment. So it depends on where you go I'd guess. But the usual cases I hear when $ is a problem is that treatment was given and then the patient admits (I'm talking about Westerners) they don't have enough $ to pay. Some hospitals will actually force you to stay until you pay, which seems sort of counter-productive, but it is what it is. I guess they think as a non-Thai that is their best way to get paid.
what a very very useful video. and thank you thank you for making this very understandable and comforting
Thank you, Diane, for taking the time to write. And best wishes.
This might be the first video to point out the doctors you find at fancy private hospitals in Thailand are actually the same doctors who work at non-fancy govt hospitals. So true!
Thanks! Sounds like you know these things too. Feel free to share any insight you have here for others to read. I'm sure there are things I did not mention that would be helpful.
For those wondering why doctors don't quit the govt facilities altogether and go work in private ones because apparently the money at the latter is much better. Well, there are a number of reasons. 1 younger doctors owe it to the govt for subsidising their 6 years of training in the uni's 2. there's indeed a prestigious air to being part of big govt facilities. Yes, the money is less but the proverbial fancy headgears will open doors to money eventually. The fact that they work at established public hospitals is the reason why they got a gig at private ones in the first place. 3. I may be naive here but I was unfortunate enough to spend a few nights at a big state hospital recently. I don't know but based on my observation, doctors there do care about us patients who pay zero to 30 Baht for all of the treatments and services we have got. They're meticulous. They check everything. It felt genuine there. Oh btw, I do keep hearing about how private facilities have a habit of referring life-and-death operations to public ones.
@@VintageThaiLadyBoy Thanks. Good comment.
I’m looking for stroke rehabilitation hospital in Bangkok as I am not walking since my stroke
Sorry to hear it and good luck. I list some good hospitals in BKK.
How do you find out the cost of medical exams in Thailand?
Depending on the tests I'd guess some hospitals you could call and ask the appropriate department, and some might need to have an initial exam first.
@@RetiredGlobalLife Thank you
I think Pattaya might be the second largest city there.
Chiang Mai never feels to me like the second largest and Pattaya looks and feels bigger. But the official stats say Chiang Mai. I think it is because CM is so spread out and Pattaya is more congested but in much less space. Who knows, statistics can be played with and I'm not sure who they exactly draw up city lines.
@@RetiredGlobalLifeYou are probably correct. Hey, nice overview of medical options!
Hahahaha, the Song. Funny Dude.
Haha, thanks. Yes, I was quite proud of my lyrics. You are the first person to mention it.
You have to note that Bangkok Hospital in Pattaya is not in the top 30. I found out that management must differ in their branches, though I can't complain about nurses and physicians.
I just listed the one in Bangkok which is on the list. That's not to say other BKK hospitals around the country can't be excellent too... or not.
Trouble in Thailand is getting a insurance company you can trust hence many people putting money away each month to pay for any treatment
Yes, some companies may refuse to renew policies for costly/sick patients, which is not ethical. This is more likely to happen with offshore companies IMO, than good Thai companies. A good agent can tell you the reliable companies. But self insure with own money is an option for many who can't get insurance.
On a tourist visa before COVID. My Thai wife took me to a hospital in Chiang Mai (don't remember which) for fluid in my lungs. Walked in gave passport, chest x-ray in ten minutes, sat and waited 10 or 15 minutes for doctor (female / Thai / spoke English), she already had imagine on her monitor, told me I had fluid in my lungs, I said I know, wrote out 5 prescriptions, another 10 to 15 minute wait, picked up the 5 prescriptions, another 10 to 15 minute wait, paid my $125., and out.
So, again, foreigner, walk-in, x-ray, doctor, 5 prescriptions, $125., all within a couple of hours...maybe.
Best thing out if all of that?...
Immediately cleared up my lung issue that I had been fighting fir months.
I love hearing stories like yours, Anthony. Thanks so much.
@@RetiredGlobalLifeThank you for the excellent video and your response. Query... When someone such as you says they will "leave a link", on my phone I look and can never find the link mentioned. So, in this case I am extremely interested in your comment about the medicaid "secret". Can I talk you into directing me to this video?
Thanx.
Tony
P.S....Live on the Big Island of Hawaii and have small house in Chyaiphum.
@@anthonylutz118 Sorry it should have been in the description but maybe not visible on the phone. I likely meant this one: ua-cam.com/video/aNu4-RWQ91I/v-deo.html
Liked นะ..
Thanks a lot, Pat. I hope it helps you out. Take care.
I’m definitely not into luxury and public hospitals are fine for me. I asked my insurance where they wanted me to go. They said bumrungrad. Ok, why not? lol
Haha, gotta love your insurer if they say that. That place is the best they say.
Is the health care in your country really worse ?
Do you mean my birth country, the USA? We have both great and terrible health care. The problem it is so, so costly, and not accessible to all. Thailand has very affordable health care, from fancy clinics to government facilities.
@@RetiredGlobalLife i was last month in a private one in Nongkhai,they rip me off only with the medicine who gave for used at home,afther i look on google about the price,i can found them on the lazada site too,,its a big shame how they tread fralangs,any way I from Holland,a lot better organize then here in Thailand.
I am considering cosmetic surgery with Lotus medical in Phuket , with a qualified doctor Dr Piyapas . Would like your feedback, they appear very professional and helpful answering all my inquiries.
We can't help you. Best wishes.
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Hi Randy
How do I contact you. Do you have an email address. We are coming to Chiang Mai next week and looking to move to Chiang Mai so looking for some advice.
Thanks
Richard and Debbie
My email is RetiredGlobalLife@gmail.com. Beware though this is not Chiang Mai's best time. Smokey season and hot. The hot is okay but the smoke is not.
I’ll meet you in April and I’ll let you buy me lunch.
Rats, no free lunch for me. I'll be in CA and it is Joy's first visit to America.
APPLE PECTIN POWDER. YOU'LL NEVER BE CONSTIPATED.....
Thanks for the tip. I will look into it. Thankfully, not a regular occurance, but international flights seem to do that to me.
@@RetiredGlobalLife 4 capsules together per day. It will take at least 24 hours to work. Drink alot of water.
@@dovygoodguy1296 Thanks, Doctor! Appreciate it.
@@RetiredGlobalLife No doctor. I just have the same problem!
Hospital Ivan practice gate walking
Sorry I don't understand but thanks for commenting.
Why all the comments about girls in Thailand? What about the men in Thailand for Western Women?
Another viewer commented what about Thai men for western men... So yes both are there, but most westerners going to Thailand just happen to be men. Didn't mean to leave out the ladies. (:
LMAO…Constipation Man! 😂
Thanks! I was quite proud of my little ditty. No one has commented on my membership card though...
Ha! I had to rewatch to catch that. 18:28 in case anyone else is interested. @@RetiredGlobalLife
@@joyaclub Thanks. If nothing else, I amuse myself...
Had the same treatment in North Carolina hospital, 3 hours later the bill if paid off in 30 days was reduced to just over $10,000.00 USD. That's right, 10 fn grand.😡
Wow, never heard of a bill so low in the US.
Whatever you do don't mention the C word.
Sorry, I don't get the joke but let me know. Thanks for writing.
and thank you for the link for natt. thank you
Let me know how your call goes. I think you will find him very personable and knowledgeable. It is important for us Westerners to have key Thai people for guidance in certain areas.
The problem with retiring in a developing country like Thailand is that when you're old, health issues become frequent. Thai medical is okay for standard issues but I would never have a heart operation there. People really need to think twice before they believe all of the claims being made about these countries on UA-cam. Do some real research. Things are frightening. Maybe a holiday but not for long term living.
Can you give some examples of things that frightened you?
Thanks for the input. A heart operation is scary anywhere but if I had the right doctor and hospital, where ever I was, I'd be confident. And Thailand to me has quality care. Do you live here? Used the high-level hospitals? I arrived full of doubt but it left me after two hospital visits. I would not be happy in a public Thai hospital, nor a bad county public hospital in the west. But a private hospital in Thailand, or private clinic at a Thai public university hospital, I'd be more confident there over a low grade US hospital. Check out the unbiased international rating organizations and decide for yourself.
@@RetiredGlobalLife I have used the "high-level hospitals" and I was actually shocked how low level they are in regards to knowing high level things, versus my expectations which came from people on UA-cam saying they are high quality. Superficially things may look and seem good, but if you know a good deal about medicine and you talk to the doctors and staff you will soon realize that they are a few notches below doctors in the west. Again, routine things are fine and preferable over US hospitals due to cost and better service. But life and death matters, no way. As far as checking with "unbiased" ratings, I know enough about medicine to know what I have seen is not so good in Thailand. Also I don't believe there are any unbiased international rating organizations. They are all on someone's payroll. Even the Michelin star rating system in Asia has been corrupted and is now meaningless. I have been living in Asia for quite a while and I understand the corruption and lawlessness. Companies can get away with anything in Asia because there are no consumer protection laws. As far as "low grade US hospitals" you say you don't have confidence in, what is low grade? All of the doctors must pass their board exams. The mean difference in hospitals in the US is how they look, how long the lines are and who they serve. There is a very high standard for everything in the US except customer service (used to be great). The only hospital I would trust in Thailand is Bumrungrad, but not for a heart operation unless I had no choice. Also, Bumrungrad is starting to get expensive.
@@jinlakitikorn8715 Lack of knowledge of standards of care from staff including doctors. Unless you have a good understanding of medicine you aren't likely to detect the issues. Also keep in mind that Thailand essentially has no tort laws so companies (including hospitals and doctors) are not liable for malpractice or mistakes, such as removing the wrong kidney, etc. This reduces accountability tends to increase medical error. You will never hear about malpractice in Thailand because it's not like the US which is very transparent. Many things are hidden in Thailand. The more you know about it the scarier it becomes.
@@jinlakitikorn8715 Too many to list and many need detailed explanations. But basically I had this idea of Thailand based on what I saw on UA-cam. Things turned out much different after I lived there and came to learn things you never hear about on UA-cam. I learned not to use UA-cam as a source of anything.
You want to find the best DOCTOR not the best HOSPITAL.
For sure, but doctors in Thailand do not have independent offices normally, so the search for a doctor starts at the hospital. Even routine appointments are usually done at a hospital.
@@RetiredGlobalLifeindeed true and well described, and same in all of southeast asia: find the hospital first and the physician follows for both outpatient and inpatient care. “you’re not in kansas anymore,” thank god.