You how you know when people can't hear different opinions than their own? It's when you didn't even voice one and they immediately get defensive or start throwing insults. I only said communism and socialism are not the same. Which is true. I didn't say how I personally feel about either. Though y'all seem to be really okay with just throwing around opinions rather than facts about either party. Either try and educate someone else or yourselves or don't say anything at all.
She lived near Spring Green. Her husband (Peters) apprenticed with Frank Lloyd Wright at Taliesin. I think he also was the driving force behind the founding of Taliesin West in Scottsdale AZ. My dad had told a few times over the years that Stalin's daughter lived near Spring Green. I didn't believe him until she died, and I think there was a write-up in the local paper about her. May she rest in peace now.
Honestly, when you were in school odds are you didn't care much about learning. I teach...I see it every day. Then people get old and complain about the education system and demand more money be spent when money does NOTHING to make some one want to learn or arouse curiosity in the majority of people who do not care. Learning is VERY inexpensive.
@@dcpack don't talk about people you know nothing of. I was in a school that suffered lots of political issues. our history constantly was changing, what we were allowed to learn etc. most history teachers came to a point of not caring about it either, as every year the syllabus would change to suit current "view" point. I loved learning, unfortunately all we had at the time was school and very limited library's. this was before everyone had easy net access. I despise that "kids don't want to learn bs" there are who do but did not get or don't have the opportunity
@@wwar5237 I think you're both correct. Probably the most frustrating thing for me during the brief time that I taught was trying to get some of the kids to care about school. Many do care. However, many do not.
@@ghendar I think too many of the folks today don't actually understand how important knowledge is. I would like to blame social media but at the same time many use it in a manner to learn. I guess it just goes down to the individual.
@@dcpack When I was in school in the '60's & '70's, most of the time I was thinking about or chasing girls, rather than learning academic subjects. ...Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have separate boys and girls schools?
Interesting history. Stalin's daughter was forgotten by US, or she herself wanted to remain obscure? She should have been into limelight snd should have been talking about democracy & freedom. In 1991, Russian Communism collapsed. At thst time, did she ever go back to Russia?? If she did not, why she didn't?
I remember back then reading a human-interest article about her in the American news magazines (Time/Life/Look). The way I heard it at the time, her American husband was described as an airline pilot, while THG here reports that he was an architect. This brings closure to that story for me.
Northman we are all unique. Hence we miss some and not others. I am exhausted hearing we are all the same. Those who have children recognize this fact. Stalin and Democrats are evil. Power hungry and lustful for control. She wanted none of this and was unique
@@QuantumRift What a stupid comment! Stalin is closer to Trump,! - a thief who managed to become leader of his country and wants to lead for life, jail political opponents and doesn't care about the people of the nation. Bernie is the antithetical to all that.
My wife's great grandfather died because of the collectivization in Ukraine sometime around 1929. Fortunately her grandfather was able to get out during the war. This is definitely history worth being remembered.
Mr.History, you have a way of putting history that makes it undeniably human. It's fact based raw emotion. You are talented and thank you for sharing that talent along with the history.
I've been blessed to have known so many wonderful historians throughout my life. The History Guy may not be a personal acquaintance, though I am thrilled to have come across his work on You Tube because he is now one of my favorite teachers.
We are so ignorant , when history hits us. After graduating in 1971, spent many evenings smoking and drinking with a friend who was studying Russian history. What an eye opening experience . Have spent a lot of time trying to catch up. Glad you gave up your day job, need more like you.
A truly humbling story, from the Little Sparrow and the darling of Stalin's eye to relative obscurity in the great white wild north of Wisconsin. I am reminded that many of the actors of history are often just ordinary people like us, everyday human beings striving to find a way to make their mark in the world. I believe she would have been proud of this episode and with your final thoughts of her escaping her father's shadow, very well done my friend.
I'm old enough to have actually remembered the news of her defection to the United States. The U.S. news never went into much explanation about how she got here. I assumed it was all very cloak and dagger. Later my family actually lived in India for a couple of years when my father took a WHO assignment there, but never heard any story of her going through the U.S. Embassy there to gain asylum just 4 years earlier. As I grew older I learned of her distaste of her father, but she was never quoted much and her picture almost never made it to the papers. Though we all know Stalin's appalling history it always made me wonder how hard it must have been for her to turn her back on her father and the only world she ever knew. Thank you.
I remember when the news broke of her defection. I was in the 8th grade, almost 14 years old, and perhaps a bit more aware of global politics than the average kid because of my reading. The Cold War tensions were a huge factor in our lives; hard to sort out now what was greatest, what with the intensity of the Civil Rights struggles and the growing impact of the war in Viet Nam. I remember hoping that her defection would trigger a massive reversal of Soviet policies; maybe now they would admit that democracy was better than communism, and just quit! Well, they did; just took them another 24 years. I wonder what she thought about that? Actually, I'm glad that she had achieved enough anonymity by that time , that no one thought to ask her.
Democracy made ex-soviet people lose 40% of their country territory , 40%of their GDP, unemployment, no elder care, people without house, work or medical care... must I continue? Perhaps, you Americans take LIBERAL democracy at a higher level than it deserves, bc liberal democracy make US citizen going Cuba for Health care.
Democracy and health care are not tied. How are you comparing democracy and communism? That’s like comparing apples and hammers. Do you mean to say you don’t like capitalism? Did you know that under capitalism we can have universal healthcare? We can VOTE for a representative who supports it. We are not a democracy, we are a democratic republic. Tell me, how many people have starved since capitalism took over there? Hmm...
Also, the loss of WWII made Germany lose a lot of territory too. Really unfortunate right? I can’t believe we have people who defend the USSR in this day and age. You can defend communism, but you’re really going to defend the USSR and act like it was something good? Man you must be brain washed or something because we didn’t have any gulags, mass killings, brutal oppression, or starvation going on over here..... We have a few things to fix, but we don’t have to be socialist or communist to do so. We can be a social democracy. Lefties this day don’t understand the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism and it REALLY shows lmao.
I would say that Russia and other former Soviet States have been slow in adopting democracy. In some ways some of there countries have ever regressed. But Russia has a long shadow following it. It is a country which have been haunted past since even USSR. A countries that has always has a lot of enemies. A harsh country made rugged by war and internal strife. It is somewhat understandable that is clings to it past. Always weary of outsiders. Always trying to protect it boarders. Because others may forget Russia and is people do not. I do hope Russia move towards a more open and democratic society. A society less lead by autocrats and embraces progressive values. Since I think that would make Russia a strong and happy country. And yes, for me that include embracing true socialist values of caring about you fellow man. Not the sham version that USSR adopted where you sacrifice your life for the state. But that self sacrifice is what the state of Russia have always demanded of you weather you agree to it or not. Even back during imperial times and even before that.
@@CitizenSnips69 What is the difference btw a democracy and a democratic republic? Do you know that we are living under capitalism, not any democracy? for example, did Obama's presidency took away racism in US? NO, so political power is under economic(capitalist) power. And so, if economically universal health care is not good for those who rule your country it is never going to happen, even if a real US president "try" to. Tell me, why Ukranian landowners preferred burn their harvest before selling it at a fixed price in what you know as Holodomor? Do you defend private capitalist profit more than human right to feed? And at the same time that in US Al Capone was serving soups for the US hungries...mmmmh propaganda you know USSR was not perfect, but pls, attack it in a proper fault, not by lying about famines. Claim that there was no seasonal sales, or disneyland or poor whores in each city and you will be right.
Wow !!! Amazing story and extremely well told !!! I don't know how you do it , but you have a gift of bringing people , places and times gone by to life ,,, even for those brief moments , you can transport us all into the situation that you're covering . Thank You so much ,,, for all that you and your wife do !!!
I am a history buff, obviously like many here. I watch this channel and constantly discover knew things. I was aware of this event and am glad to have been further informed. While I am glad to hear stories that cover a broader scope of history, I am impressed with this mans ability to make such minutiae as the history of screws interesting. I can't praise this channel more.
The architect she married was "Wes" Peters who was Frank Lloyd Wright's right hand man. Lots of interesting turns in that part of the story. Some of the locals refer to Svetlana's daughter as Stalin's granddaughter. I had the chance to talk to her about FLLW's architecture school in '92. She was working as a waitress at a restaurant in Spring Green, WI.
What a touching account of a tragic life. So many times, the story of the families behind those in power are swept to obscurity. You have presented this story with much grace. Thank you for sharing a part of your day with us!
Heartfelt, interesting, sad and wonderful history at the same time. ! Thank you so much History Guy for making me aware of Svetlana. I will be reading Twenty Letters To A Friend soon
Excellent video,I hope she has the peace she so well deserved,I read about her years ago,you cannot pick your father that is in the hands of fate!!!!!😳🇬🇧
having grown up during krushchov (russian spelling), and living this, i was stunned to hear her story. i knew of her, but nothing about her. from my own perspective, i consider this the best one you've done so far. thank you.
I had the good fortune to see the farm that they hid her when she arrived in the United States. It is located outside of Gettysburg, PA and is still very remote. Thank you History Guy for filling in the rest of the story.
Marvelous. Thank you for bringing such a human story to its historical place. Sometimes it’s difficult to place the people inside of history, a feat that you do so well.
I met Lona while working in the grocery store in my hometown of Richland Center, Wisconsin. She was a sweet, friendly lady. She prized her solitude, but was quick with a positive comment. No one knew who she was, just as she wanted it.
@wargent99 they aren't quitting. they aren't moving, mostly do to other obligations. most will be reassigned to other jobs. calling the rank and file at Interior "elites" is preposterous. you shouldnt make assumptions based on reading something in a news article
Thank you history guy for another great story I was born in Wisconsin and I knew that she lived in Wisconsin thank you for reminding me that history is everywhere
My sister rented a house in the redwood forest area of California. One day there was some commotion about a shack she did not even know of, a shack where an old recluse had lived in and had been found found dead within. Various federal law enfocement agencies suddenly flooded the area removing all contents of the shack. The hermit had been one of the fellow Bolshevists of Stalin, he had so feared retribution that he hid most obscurely as a hermit for decades. A vast trove of Bolshevists and Communist literature was found on his premises. Whether those materials were saved or archived I have no idea. The few people who had contact with him had nothing to say against him and were surprised of the circumstances of his life. That is how much Stalin was feared.
Beautiful little piece of history. I always feel bad about those we've lost over the course of the Cold War. It's not fair. Remarkable people completely erased by those who hate them. What a world we live in.
Well I never knew any of this. This to me was very fascinating. Always glad to learn little snippets of the oft forgotten side of human relationships in history.
One of your very best, H.G. Very well researched, excellent writing and great presentation. You are the BEST of UA-cam! Thank you and Mrs. H.G. for all of your work in presenting "History that deserves to be remembered...."
In case anyone was wondering, the German general offered for trade for Iosif Stalin's son Yakob was Field Marshall Friedrich von Paulus, the man who had surrendered Germany's 6th Army at Stalingrad.
I'm somewhat certain he didn't want to be repatriated. After hitler ordered his suicide by promoting him to field marshal stating No field marshal has ever been taken prisoner.
Stalin's reply was: 'Just think how many sons ended in camps! Who would swap them for Paulus? Were they worse than Yakov?' There was no way Stalin could accept the offer of trading a lieutenant for a field-marshal, without morale in the Soviet Union hitting rock bottom.
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If there was anything that scared the young recruits trying to take Stalingrad in that horrible winter- it wasn't anything less than being captured by the brutal Russians.So a German POW would rather die than be beaten and tortured for months on end after starving in a freezing prison cell Centuries of anger and hatred of the Germanic tribes and Anglo-Saxons that they descended from was unleashed by Hitler's advances into Russia Casualties=850,000 Axis troops dead,wounded or missing, more than 1.1 million Soviet soldiers dead,wounded or missing and 40,000 civilians also perished The most dangerous animal on Earth will always be Man until he ceases to exist.It could happen again, as a pandemic spreads across the globe as in no other time.
The stories you tell are compelling on their own and your scripts make them even better. But, for me what takes the cake is your narration. Thank you for your work History Guy! You're doing a great job!
I just want to say, as a scientist and technologist, I really appreciate your channel. Without history, we have not future. There are no alternative facts, but there may be disputed facts, and that is the province of the historian. We live in historical times. Keep up the great work. From a dedicated viewer and a student of history.
@Stop the BS - isn't it beautiful how you are entitled to express your opinion, even if it only goes to show that you have no functional understanding of history, or the society we live in? Be careful when you open your fridge next time, there might be a KGB agent hiding between two slices of bologna!
@@THE-HammerMan I think you misintrepeted my meaning. I was saying that no matter who she was that her charity work deserved to be remembered. I was not trying to imply she was not Joe's daughter. That I do believe.
Thank you for sharing these videos. It allows new insights into my life. I am still young, yet learn have learnt about how easy it is to forget, or to simply be ignorant of history. Future Patron
I always knew Stalin had a daughter (a son as well, captured by the Germans) from watching WWII documentaries. I often wondered what ever happened to that cute little girl. Thank you for filling in the missing history.
He had anther son as well- Vasily, Svetlana's brother. He was a general in the Soviet Air force, but drank too much. He became an embarrassment after his father's death and was imprisoned for seven years, essentially for being indiscreet. He died of alcoholism in 1962.
Wow, this was your very best work so far of the 15 or so videos of yours I've watched. That last sentence, bringing everything full-circle, made me well up. Well done, good Sir.
Living in Wisconsin, I never knew that she was here... it would have been wonderful to sit down and talk with her... And she lived in Richland Center a small town in Western - Midwest Wisconsin.... it is a beautiful area.
I live about 15 miles from there. She was not a fan of her father, and very few people knew who she truly was. It was a very rare occasion that she would talk about it.
I live in Wisconsin too, and we all heard about her in the news when she married Wesley Peters, because of the Frank Lloyd Wright connection. I read that ehen the marriage broke up she returned to the USSR. I did not know until now that she came back to Wisconsin in the end.
You do an exceptional job sharing these bits of history with no judgement and great humanity. I think these would be great tools for teachers.As a history lover, I so appreciate well researched and the high quality of the presentation. Thank you so much for all you do making sure these moments in time are remembered- and these historical figures are viewed clearly. 💐
@Stephen Murphy When B. Hussein Obama was awarded his Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING, a Texas gas station quickly swung into action. They put up a sign that read: "Free Nobel Peace Prize with every oil change.". Brilliant!!!
It is hard to imagine how it would affect a person knowing that their father was one of the most vile monsters to have ever lived. It is truly sad that our children aren’t taught the truth of this period of history, the truth that given the power of dominion over others the evil within all of us will creep out.
I thought I was the only one making comments about how ugly any of us can be because we're all infected with fear. Still, I don't want to be discouraging. We have a propensity to do evil, but God made us with beauty and the capability of doing good. I don't want to forget that and Who deserves the credit.
Hearing the story of Stalin's daughter reminded me of the old Soviet joke from Khrushchev's days about the foreign diplomat who while out walking with his KGB minder asked about a small house which had armed female soldiers standing guard outside it. "Who lives there?" "Stalin's mother." "What? Why, she must be over a hundred years old! Surely no-one would want to hurt her!" "You don't understand. They aren't there to protect her. Khrushchev wants to make sure she doesn't have another child."
just to say Alliluyeva is a name derived from the word Hallelujah and should be read as Hallelujaheva (daughter of one called Hallelujah) with the same stress pattern... Svetlana, means girl of light(one of the four non Biblical feminine Russian names)... a fitting name for her. throughout her fathers life, though escaping the worst, she had lived with as much fear of her father as all who surrounded him, only, knowing better his brutal and dark moods... her main fear seemed to have been that whoever showed kindness to her was always either murdered or imprisoned... for stalin feared that through her they might plot against him. nevertheless, from all who met her, she was a person of amazing light and strength, an amazing light and strength broken in the end, through decades of various psychological pressure. I am not sure how much of the madness of her later years is true and how much is pro-soviet propaganda, but maybe the obscurity of her old age was something of the peace that Bulgakov's Master & Margaret got from God as a substitute to heaven.
While Stalin was communism irreplaceable man, Lana Peters was one of many victims of the brutal and unforgiving system that tried to bring a utopian vision to the world (creating a hell on earth in reality in the attempt).
This is a good one here. Thanks HG! I was thinking about USS Pueblo yesterday. That is a piece of history people have also forgotten and thus, deserves to be remembered.
In an odd chain of “knowing people,” I happened to know Svetlana’s doctor from the Richland Center Hospical. I live in the Richland County area and always find it interesting that I am both linked to the Stalin regime by my great grandfather, who was killed by the government and his daughters doctor.
When I have a bad day at work or something as equally as trivial. This will be another story I add to my reportuois of knowledge, that indeed it is trivial... Another fantastic story, delivered with aplomb...
To the History guy: Your skills as a orator excel, when doing these unknown deeply personal historical stories. I think, and could be wrong. But, I well bet. Your fine other half, has a very good understanding of human drama. And greatly helps direct you.
She sound like a great Lady ! It is sad that she had to go through a lot of rough times in her life ! Thank you for a very interesting piece of history !
So I met Svetlana Alliluyeva once when I was a small child, I was playing with my scooter going up and down the road outside my house when an old lady shouted at me to 'stop playing in the road and get on the pavement'. Rather meekly I did she said 'thank you' and carried on her way. Eventually I came inside my dad who had seen the whole thing asked if I was alright and only years later told me it was Stalin's daughter and she lived on the next road down. All I really remember of her appearance is her big blue coat and I only remember that because its my favourite shade of blue
After Yakovs capture the Nazis proposed exchanging him for their captured field marshal Friedrich Paulus, Stalin retorted “I will not trade a Marshall for a Lieutenant.”
If you think of him acting as a father, that sounds incredibly cold. But if you think of him acting as a national leader, which he was, then it was right for him not to let family connections influence that decision. Stalin's crimes were many, but refusing that trade is not high among them.
Stories like this are a sobering reminder of how easy is is for history to be nearly erased.
pentagramprime or maybe repeated.
Indeed, we must never forget the horrors that socialism brings.
@@dellawrence4323 Communism you mean. Socialism and communism are not the same.
rhiannon hookings no no no socialism is as evil and destructive as communism.
You how you know when people can't hear different opinions than their own? It's when you didn't even voice one and they immediately get defensive or start throwing insults. I only said communism and socialism are not the same. Which is true. I didn't say how I personally feel about either. Though y'all seem to be really okay with just throwing around opinions rather than facts about either party. Either try and educate someone else or yourselves or don't say anything at all.
Many people in Wisconsin knew she lived "up North". Most figured to leave her alone. She deserved some peace and quiet.
She lived near Spring Green. Her husband (Peters) apprenticed with Frank Lloyd Wright at Taliesin. I think he also was the driving force behind the founding of Taliesin West in Scottsdale AZ. My dad had told a few times over the years that Stalin's daughter lived near Spring Green. I didn't believe him until she died, and I think there was a write-up in the local paper about her. May she rest in peace now.
@Me Dna Jesus is Lord .
@Lazar Cvetkovic/videos And I hope you all drop that silly religion nonsense. ;)
it is funny what people in southern WI consider "up North"
@Lazar Cvetkovic I hope you become a tongue talking, Jesus Name Baptized, shouting jumping Apostolic Christian! Obey Acts 2:38! 🙂🙂
I never knew this. learning a lot about history that we generally don't get taught in my country.
I absolutely love your videos.
Honestly, when you were in school odds are you didn't care much about learning. I teach...I see it every day. Then people get old and complain about the education system and demand more money be spent when money does NOTHING to make some one want to learn or arouse curiosity in the majority of people who do not care. Learning is VERY inexpensive.
@@dcpack don't talk about people you know nothing of. I was in a school that suffered lots of political issues. our history constantly was changing, what we were allowed to learn etc. most history teachers came to a point of not caring about it either, as every year the syllabus would change to suit current "view" point.
I loved learning, unfortunately all we had at the time was school and very limited library's. this was before everyone had easy net access.
I despise that "kids don't want to learn bs"
there are who do but did not get or don't have the opportunity
@@wwar5237 I think you're both correct. Probably the most frustrating thing for me during the brief time that I taught was trying to get some of the kids to care about school. Many do care.
However, many do not.
@@ghendar I think too many of the folks today don't actually understand how important knowledge is.
I would like to blame social media but at the same time many use it in a manner to learn. I guess it just goes down to the individual.
@@dcpack When I was in school in the '60's & '70's, most of the time I was thinking about or chasing girls, rather than learning academic subjects. ...Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have separate boys and girls schools?
Interesting ''snippet of history''".
Was completely unaware of her, and her history.
Thanks.
The History Guy's choices are quite thought provoking.
Interesting history. Stalin's daughter was forgotten by US, or she herself wanted to remain obscure? She should have been into limelight snd should have been talking about democracy & freedom. In 1991, Russian Communism collapsed. At thst time, did she ever go back to Russia?? If she did not, why she didn't?
@Han Lockhart Relax hardo
I remember back then reading a human-interest article about her in the American news magazines (Time/Life/Look). The way I heard it at the time, her American husband was described as an airline pilot, while THG here reports that he was an architect. This brings closure to that story for me.
when all the wars, battles and politics are done, all that is left is people.
Yes but War, War never changes.
Yes and we are all the same
@gamiezion
Indeed ...
Northman we are all unique. Hence we miss some and not others. I am exhausted hearing we are all the same. Those who have children recognize this fact. Stalin and Democrats are evil. Power hungry and lustful for control. She wanted none of this and was unique
@@joemajarucon9090 Geez Joe you really are a special kind of unique 🤣
It seems to me that the only thing worse than being Stalin's enemy was being Stalin's friend. Or relative.
Or in the case of Bernie Sanders, his son.
Vasily Stalin would agree with you.
Solzhenitsyn called Stalin "that murky Soul". He also said, "Pride grows in the human heart like lard on a pig." I just love that quote. 😆
@@QuantumRift What a stupid comment! Stalin is closer to Trump,! - a thief who managed to become leader of his country and wants to lead for life, jail political opponents and doesn't care about the people of the nation. Bernie is the antithetical to all that.
SteelFisher jail political opponents, really? Better than knowing the Clintons. One might become suddenly suicidal...
My wife's great grandfather died because of the collectivization in Ukraine sometime around 1929. Fortunately her grandfather was able to get out during the war. This is definitely history worth being remembered.
Mr.History, you have a way of putting history that makes it undeniably human. It's fact based raw emotion. You are talented and thank you for sharing that talent along with the history.
I've been blessed to have known so many wonderful historians throughout my life. The History Guy may not be a personal acquaintance, though I am thrilled to have come across his work on You Tube because he is now one of my favorite teachers.
Hear! Hear!
We are so ignorant , when history hits us. After graduating in 1971, spent many evenings smoking and drinking with a friend who was studying Russian history. What an eye opening experience . Have spent a lot of time trying to catch up. Glad you gave up your day job, need more like you.
A truly humbling story, from the Little Sparrow and the darling of Stalin's eye to relative obscurity in the great white wild north of Wisconsin. I am reminded that many of the actors of history are often just ordinary people like us, everyday human beings striving to find a way to make their mark in the world. I believe she would have been proud of this episode and with your final thoughts of her escaping her father's shadow, very well done my friend.
I'm old enough to have actually remembered the news of her defection to the United States. The U.S. news never went into much explanation about how she got here. I assumed it was all very cloak and dagger. Later my family actually lived in India for a couple of years when my father took a WHO assignment there, but never heard any story of her going through the U.S. Embassy there to gain asylum just 4 years earlier. As I grew older I learned of her distaste of her father, but she was never quoted much and her picture almost never made it to the papers. Though we all know Stalin's appalling history it always made me wonder how hard it must have been for her to turn her back on her father and the only world she ever knew. Thank you.
Thank you for your story.
Also what was your family doing in India ?
My father was the head of a WHO research facility in Dehli working on eliminating Ades Egypti, otherwise known as malaria mosquito.
@@donlabrecque1663 ok. Amazing ! Thank you for sharing.
I remember when the news broke of her defection. I was in the 8th grade, almost 14 years old, and perhaps a bit more aware of global politics than the average kid because of my reading. The Cold War tensions were a huge factor in our lives; hard to sort out now what was greatest, what with the intensity of the Civil Rights struggles and the growing impact of the war in Viet Nam.
I remember hoping that her defection would trigger a massive reversal of Soviet policies; maybe now they would admit that democracy was better than communism, and just quit!
Well, they did; just took them another 24 years. I wonder what she thought about that? Actually, I'm glad that she had achieved enough anonymity by that time , that no one thought to ask her.
Democracy made ex-soviet people lose 40% of their country territory , 40%of their GDP, unemployment, no elder care, people without house, work or medical care... must I continue?
Perhaps, you Americans take LIBERAL democracy at a higher level than it deserves, bc liberal democracy make US citizen going Cuba for Health care.
Democracy and health care are not tied. How are you comparing democracy and communism? That’s like comparing apples and hammers. Do you mean to say you don’t like capitalism? Did you know that under capitalism we can have universal healthcare? We can VOTE for a representative who supports it. We are not a democracy, we are a democratic republic.
Tell me, how many people have starved since capitalism took over there? Hmm...
Also, the loss of WWII made Germany lose a lot of territory too. Really unfortunate right? I can’t believe we have people who defend the USSR in this day and age. You can defend communism, but you’re really going to defend the USSR and act like it was something good? Man you must be brain washed or something because we didn’t have any gulags, mass killings, brutal oppression, or starvation going on over here..... We have a few things to fix, but we don’t have to be socialist or communist to do so. We can be a social democracy. Lefties this day don’t understand the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism and it REALLY shows lmao.
I would say that Russia and other former Soviet States have been slow in adopting democracy. In some ways some of there countries have ever regressed. But Russia has a long shadow following it. It is a country which have been haunted past since even USSR. A countries that has always has a lot of enemies. A harsh country made rugged by war and internal strife. It is somewhat understandable that is clings to it past. Always weary of outsiders. Always trying to protect it boarders. Because others may forget Russia and is people do not.
I do hope Russia move towards a more open and democratic society. A society less lead by autocrats and embraces progressive values. Since I think that would make Russia a strong and happy country. And yes, for me that include embracing true socialist values of caring about you fellow man. Not the sham version that USSR adopted where you sacrifice your life for the state. But that self sacrifice is what the state of Russia have always demanded of you weather you agree to it or not. Even back during imperial times and even before that.
@@CitizenSnips69 What is the difference btw a democracy and a democratic republic?
Do you know that we are living under capitalism, not any democracy? for example, did Obama's presidency took away racism in US? NO, so political power is under economic(capitalist) power. And so, if economically universal health care is not good for those who rule your country it is never going to happen, even if a real US president "try" to.
Tell me, why Ukranian landowners preferred burn their harvest before selling it at a fixed price in what you know as Holodomor? Do you defend private capitalist profit more than human right to feed? And at the same time that in US Al Capone was serving soups for the US hungries...mmmmh propaganda you know
USSR was not perfect, but pls, attack it in a proper fault, not by lying about famines. Claim that there was no seasonal sales, or disneyland or poor whores in each city and you will be right.
"Daddy issues" becomes a very, very different meaning for whoever ends up dating the lady.
"Twenty letters to a friend" is worth a read. Svetlana was a very, very good writer.
Thank you again for bringing us all the History that deserves to be remembered and passed on.
Always enlightening, and entertaining!
I was made aware of Svetlana through her book, "Twenty letters to a friend". Thank you for a very enlightening video.
Wow !!! Amazing story and extremely well told !!! I don't know how you do it , but you have a gift of bringing people , places and times gone by to life ,,, even for those brief moments , you can transport us all into the situation that you're covering .
Thank You so much ,,, for all that you and your wife do !!!
Wow, this really hits home of all the kinds of history we are not aware of, let alone never taught. Thanks!
I've always felt great pity for the children of Stalin, but especially for Svetlana. Hope she found peace and at least a little happiness.
I am a history buff, obviously like many here. I watch this channel and constantly discover knew things. I was aware of this event and am glad to have been further informed. While I am glad to hear stories that cover a broader scope of history, I am impressed with this mans ability to make such minutiae as the history of screws interesting. I can't praise this channel more.
I met her daughter. She's an artist in Portland, Or. She used to work for the IRS, which did not surprise me.
Portland-that figures too.
...proving that tyranny runs in the family!
@@joeyjamison5772 but skips a generation.
The architect she married was "Wes" Peters who was Frank Lloyd Wright's right hand man. Lots of interesting turns in that part of the story. Some of the locals refer to Svetlana's daughter as Stalin's granddaughter. I had the chance to talk to her about FLLW's architecture school in '92. She was working as a waitress at a restaurant in Spring Green, WI.
Ha! Stalin’s granddaughter a waitress!
Thank you as always.
Thank you, History Guy. Even if only for being a kind and generous person, Svetlana does indeed deserve to be remembered.
That IS history that deserves to be remembered. Thanks, H.G.
What a touching account of a tragic life. So many times, the story of the families behind those in power are swept to obscurity. You have presented this story with much grace. Thank you for sharing a part of your day with us!
Heartfelt, interesting, sad and wonderful history at the same time. ! Thank you so much History Guy for making me aware of Svetlana.
I will be reading Twenty Letters To A Friend soon
Excellent video,I hope she has the peace she so well deserved,I read about her years ago,you cannot pick your father that is in the hands of fate!!!!!😳🇬🇧
having grown up during krushchov (russian spelling), and living this, i was stunned to hear her story. i knew of her, but nothing about her. from my own perspective, i consider this the best one you've done so far. thank you.
Just loved the video. Thank you.
Dear History Guy, I always love your posts but this one stands out spectacularly. So deeply human and very well narrated. Thank you.
Wow. Very human story. Wasn't expecting to be moved to tears this morning. Best one of yours i've seen!
Thank you. Another great video.
I'm so glad that you have a passion for history and you share it with us. Thank you
Remarkable episode. Tragic, heroic , especially now that domestic/ relationship abuse is finally being more apropriately addressed
I had the good fortune to see the farm that they hid her when she arrived in the United States. It is located outside of Gettysburg, PA and is still very remote. Thank you History Guy for filling in the rest of the story.
I remember in the mid1960s the UK newspapers serialising her story but I have heard little about her since then. Thanks for bringing me up to date.
Marvelous. Thank you for bringing such a human story to its historical place. Sometimes it’s difficult to place the people inside of history, a feat that you do so well.
Thank you History guy..I love learning from you.Always appreciate your channel.
I met Lona while working in the grocery store in my hometown of Richland Center, Wisconsin. She was a sweet, friendly lady. She prized her solitude, but was quick with a positive comment. No one knew who she was, just as she wanted it.
Wow! Thank you for this. I'm sure she did find paradise by living a normal regular life and being forgotten by the public.
@wargent99 you've asked a lot of "elites" this question? seems an odd conversation starter.
@wargent99 they aren't quitting. they aren't moving, mostly do to other obligations. most will be reassigned to other jobs. calling the rank and file at Interior "elites" is preposterous. you shouldnt make assumptions based on reading something in a news article
@wargent99 that isn't the definition of elite, not even figuratively.
That poor woman. Your talk was great. MORE PLEASE
Thank you history guy for another great story I was born in Wisconsin and I knew that she lived in Wisconsin thank you for reminding me that history is everywhere
Very well done, History Guy. The measure of a person's life is the entire life, not just the childhood, not just the death, but everything in between.
I recall when this happened and she did cause a stir. She lived in Princeton, N.J. for several
years.
She did, as well as in California and Arizona, and later in England and Switzerland.
Wow... Never knew about her. Thank you for telling these little historical stories and helping us not to forget.
I've never heard any of this. Thanks for the lesson!
Excellent piece. Thanks THG.
My sister rented a house in the redwood forest area of California. One day there was some commotion about a shack she did not even know of, a shack where an old recluse had lived in and had been found found dead within. Various federal law enfocement agencies suddenly flooded the area removing all contents of the shack.
The hermit had been one of the fellow Bolshevists of Stalin, he had so feared retribution that he hid most obscurely as a hermit for decades. A vast trove of Bolshevists and Communist literature was found on his premises. Whether those materials were saved or archived I have no idea. The few people who had contact with him had nothing to say against him and were surprised of the circumstances of his life.
That is how much Stalin was feared.
Can you provide us with more real information, pls?
@Fat Freddy's Cat Maybe because that was where he was.
@Fat Freddy's Cat Purrrrfect place to hide from an Ice Axe.
Beautiful little piece of history.
I always feel bad about those we've lost over the course of the Cold War. It's not fair. Remarkable people completely erased by those who hate them.
What a world we live in.
Well I never knew any of this. This to me was very fascinating. Always glad to learn little snippets of the oft forgotten side of human relationships in history.
Another reason why I enjoy your History Lessons.....they must be told!....we must never forget. Thank-you yet again for you're post.
One of your very best, H.G. Very well researched, excellent writing and great presentation. You are the BEST of UA-cam! Thank you and Mrs. H.G. for all of your work in presenting "History that deserves to be remembered...."
I learn something with every video you share with us... Thank you so very much...
Alilueva - Allelujeva this name comes from Hallelujah
Correct
Thank you again [ THG ], for another piece of " History that deserves to be remembered. " I very much agree and enjoy.
Another great video. Thank you ☘️👍
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Why the shamrock?
Irish GOY , because I’m Irish ☘️ and live in Ireland.
Wonderfully done as always, History Guy!
In case anyone was wondering, the German general offered for trade for Iosif Stalin's son Yakob was Field Marshall Friedrich von Paulus, the man who had surrendered Germany's 6th Army at Stalingrad.
I'm somewhat certain he didn't want to be repatriated. After hitler ordered his suicide by promoting him to field marshal stating No field marshal has ever been taken prisoner.
@@dragonsword7370 I agree. In a twist of irony, Stalin most likely (through no intent) saved von Paulus' life.
Stalin's reply was: 'Just think how many sons ended in camps! Who would swap them for Paulus? Were they worse than Yakov?' There was no way Stalin could accept the offer of trading a lieutenant for a field-marshal, without morale in the Soviet Union hitting rock bottom.
If there was anything that scared the young recruits trying to take Stalingrad in that horrible winter- it wasn't anything less than being captured by the brutal Russians.So a German POW would rather die than be beaten and tortured for months on end after starving in a freezing prison cell
Centuries of anger and hatred of the Germanic tribes and Anglo-Saxons that they descended from was unleashed by Hitler's advances into Russia
Casualties=850,000 Axis troops dead,wounded or missing, more than 1.1 million Soviet soldiers dead,wounded or missing and 40,000 civilians also perished
The most dangerous animal on Earth will always be Man until he ceases to exist.It could happen again, as a pandemic spreads across the globe as in no other time.
@ Those casualty figures are awfully low ...
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The stories you tell are compelling on their own and your scripts make them even better. But, for me what takes the cake is your narration. Thank you for your work History Guy! You're doing a great job!
The most desirable and most difficult thing to find is peace. She may have found that toward the end of her life.
I am 55, and you, sir, are the most gifted story teller I have ever seen. The best part is... the stories are all true. Thank you
As always, outstanding.
I just want to say, as a scientist and technologist, I really appreciate your channel. Without history, we have not future. There are no alternative facts, but there may be disputed facts, and that is the province of the historian. We live in historical times. Keep up the great work. From a dedicated viewer and a student of history.
I’d be curious how her American daughter dealt with finding out who her grandfather was
@Stop the BS that's bullshit.
Stop the BS it is entirely possible that she could be a card carrying member of AntiFa
The Romanovs were G.O.A.T. Long live the Czar!
@Stop the BS - isn't it beautiful how you are entitled to express your opinion, even if it only goes to show that you have no functional understanding of history, or the society we live in? Be careful when you open your fridge next time, there might be a KGB agent hiding between two slices of bologna!
@@steve1978ger That's a lot of assumptions and straw men arguments supported by zero substance. lol
Well done, History Guy.
A difficult subject handled with care and without prejudice. Thank you.
Thank you for the lesson.
Even if she was not Stalin's daughter she deserves to be remembered for her charity work.
There is NO doubt she was Stalin's daughter. 100% fact.
I find it shocking you have doubts, as no other gov't or person ever has.
@@THE-HammerMan I think you misintrepeted my meaning.
I was saying that no matter who she was that her charity work deserved to be remembered.
I was not trying to imply she was not Joe's daughter. That I do believe.
@@shawnr771 Ok. The wording does imply doubt. Maybe: "Had she not been..." Just saying, don't be surprised when others note that too.
@@THE-HammerMan Well hopefully they will read our exchange first. History Guy has smart viewers.
@@shawnr771 True enough... Wait!, does that mean I gotta stop watching History Guy? Dang it!
Thank you for sharing these videos. It allows new insights into my life. I am still young, yet learn have learnt about how easy it is to forget, or to simply be ignorant of history.
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I always knew Stalin had a daughter (a son as well, captured by the Germans) from watching WWII documentaries. I often wondered what ever happened to that cute little girl. Thank you for filling in the missing history.
He had anther son as well- Vasily, Svetlana's brother. He was a general in the Soviet Air force, but drank too much. He became an embarrassment after his father's death and was imprisoned for seven years, essentially for being indiscreet. He died of alcoholism in 1962.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel You're always filled with forgotten history. Thank you.
Wow, this was your very best work so far of the 15 or so videos of yours I've watched. That last sentence, bringing everything full-circle, made me well up. Well done, good Sir.
Living in Wisconsin, I never knew that she was here... it would have been wonderful to sit down and talk with her... And she lived in Richland Center a small town in Western - Midwest Wisconsin.... it is a beautiful area.
Same here -- had to look up where (Richland) she died, and where that place is (almost in Iowa!).
I live about 15 miles from there. She was not a fan of her father, and very few people knew who she truly was. It was a very rare occasion that she would talk about it.
I live in Wisconsin too, and we all heard about her in the news when she married Wesley Peters, because of the Frank Lloyd Wright connection. I read that ehen the marriage broke up she returned to the USSR. I did not know until now that she came back to Wisconsin in the end.
Born and raised in the ten. Knew where she lived. My cousin is the maintenance man there. He knew her well.
You do an exceptional job sharing these bits of history with no judgement and great humanity. I think these would be great tools for teachers.As a history lover, I so appreciate well researched and the high quality of the presentation. Thank you so much for all you do making sure these moments in time are remembered- and these historical figures are viewed clearly. 💐
Absolutely fascinating.. Especially the 'cult of personality' (I think you know who I mean)
Obama? Don't remind me.
Uhhh...Stalin?
@Stephen Murphy When B. Hussein Obama was awarded his Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING, a Texas gas station quickly swung into action. They put up a sign that read: "Free Nobel Peace Prize with every oil change.". Brilliant!!!
@Stephen Murphy
Continued by Trump.
@Stephen Murphy
And Trump's continuation of American hegemon.
Very very touching portrait, it actually made me cry.
It is hard to imagine how it would affect a person knowing that their father was one of the most vile monsters to have ever lived. It is truly sad that our children aren’t taught the truth of this period of history, the truth that given the power of dominion over others the evil within all of us will creep out.
schools do not teach these things because they want children to think socialism is a wonderful way of life.This would blow there theories.
@@lindanizamoff7981 yeah schools in america want to teach socialism, good joke, second learning about Stalin doesn t make One stop being a socialist.
I thought I was the only one making comments about how ugly any of us can be because we're all infected with fear.
Still, I don't want to be discouraging. We have a propensity to do evil, but God made us with beauty and the capability of doing good. I don't want to forget that and Who deserves the credit.
Our children are taught almost nothing in school these days!
We learned about stahlin in school. What are you smoking?
THANK YOU for these mostly forgotten moments in history.
I like how you put together a piece of history, the tempo of the presentation could be polished but a gem in the necklace we call knowledge :
Jeez, Man. I do not know how you do it...but you knock some of the most amazing stories right out of the park.
Hearing the story of Stalin's daughter reminded me of the old Soviet joke from Khrushchev's days about the foreign diplomat who while out walking with his KGB minder asked about a small house which had armed female soldiers standing guard outside it.
"Who lives there?"
"Stalin's mother."
"What? Why, she must be over a hundred years old! Surely no-one would want to hurt her!"
"You don't understand. They aren't there to protect her. Khrushchev wants to make sure she doesn't have another child."
Good one!
Sensitively done, History Guy.
just to say
Alliluyeva is a name derived from the word Hallelujah and should be read as Hallelujaheva (daughter of one called Hallelujah) with the same stress pattern... Svetlana, means girl of light(one of the four non Biblical feminine Russian names)... a fitting name for her.
throughout her fathers life, though escaping the worst, she had lived with as much fear of her father as all who surrounded him, only, knowing better his brutal and dark moods... her main fear seemed to have been that whoever showed kindness to her was always either murdered or imprisoned... for stalin feared that through her they might plot against him. nevertheless, from all who met her, she was a person of amazing light and strength, an amazing light and strength broken in the end, through decades of various psychological pressure. I am not sure how much of the madness of her later years is true and how much is pro-soviet propaganda, but maybe the obscurity of her old age was something of the peace that Bulgakov's Master & Margaret got from God as a substitute to heaven.
Thank you!
Excellent work, thanks.
Young Stalin looks like a Starbucks Socialist barista.
Hipster Stalin
Coincidence? I think not.
wanna bet he picture was "touched up ?
Cherubino my thoughts exactly! It’s probably as faithful to reality as a photo of JP Morgan’s nose....
:crying: Brilliant!
Your presentation is always spot on.....and the way it’s written is flat out inspiring,
It’s the way history ....should be remembered
While Stalin was communism irreplaceable man, Lana Peters was one of many victims of the brutal and unforgiving system that tried to bring a utopian vision to the world (creating a hell on earth in reality in the attempt).
This is a good one here. Thanks HG!
I was thinking about USS Pueblo yesterday. That is a piece of history people have also forgotten and thus, deserves to be remembered.
Here I go again learning new shit I was clueless about..
A lesson for life that everyone should embrace: "Learn new shit you are clueless about"! :)
ptroinks, I think that should be THG’s new byline!
I highly recommend the “Goy Guide to World History” by Dr. E Michael Jones if it’s still up on UA-cam
one of your best ones so far.. Rest in peace Svetlana.. May God grant you mercy..
Brilliant writing.
This piece of history was a hidden treasure. Thanks for revealing such important information that helps to complete the puzzle.
In an odd chain of “knowing people,” I happened to know Svetlana’s doctor from the Richland Center Hospical. I live in the Richland County area and always find it interesting that I am both linked to the Stalin regime by my great grandfather, who was killed by the government and his daughters doctor.
Wow, that was fascinating and very touching.
You should check out the dark comedy "The Death of Stalin" . Release in 2017
Great cast and script.
I honestly think that much of the script had to have been derived from Lana's autobiography.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel
The movie was based on a graphic novel based on the same name. But yes, the graphic novel did you Svetlana's book as a source.
When I have a bad day at work or something as equally as trivial. This will be another story I add to my reportuois of knowledge, that indeed it is trivial...
Another fantastic story, delivered with aplomb...
To the History guy:
Your skills as a orator excel, when doing these unknown deeply personal historical stories.
I think, and could be wrong.
But, I well bet. Your fine other half, has a very good understanding of human drama. And greatly helps direct you.
You remind me of Paul Harvey in your delivery and speech. Thanks for this
She sound like a great Lady ! It is sad that she had to go through a lot of rough times in her life ! Thank you for a very interesting piece of history !
Reminds me about your bit on Josephine the common law wife of Wyatt Earp and how all she wanted was privacy to live her life.
So I met Svetlana Alliluyeva once when I was a small child, I was playing with my scooter going up and down the road outside my house when an old lady shouted at me to 'stop playing in the road and get on the pavement'. Rather meekly I did she said 'thank you' and carried on her way. Eventually I came inside my dad who had seen the whole thing asked if I was alright and only years later told me it was Stalin's daughter and she lived on the next road down. All I really remember of her appearance is her big blue coat and I only remember that because its my favourite shade of blue
After Yakovs capture the Nazis proposed exchanging him for their captured field marshal Friedrich Paulus, Stalin retorted “I will not trade a Marshall for a Lieutenant.”
If you think of him acting as a father, that sounds incredibly cold. But if you think of him acting as a national leader, which he was, then it was right for him not to let family connections influence that decision. Stalin's crimes were many, but refusing that trade is not high among them.
@@bxdanny uh huh
Hitler tried to trade Stalin's son for one of his cousins who was in Soviet captivity, and Stalin also said no to that.
What a concise yet profound account of a very singular life! Fantastic work.