@adnanmir2873 You can't be serious. You're anti-religion about 99.9% of the religions that have ever been made, right? You wouldn't prefer to live under Islamic Sharia Law or the Hindu Caste System rather than Secularism, would you? Pangburn is only against anti-intellectualism. It just so happens that popular forms of religious expression are the greatest sources of this at the moment. But they also host debates on other anti-intellectual topics like "alien visitations".
As an Australian, and I think I can confidentiality speak for all developed nations, I am jaw-droppingly staggered at the religiosity of America in the 21st century. Of course, the blame must go to the inward looking bubble that Americans have lived in since WWII. We have all moved on and left the US wallowing in the last century
It would be shocking if you spoke for even the drunken inbreds of Tasmania. At any rate, I'm sure Americans appreciate your gratitude to them for preventing you God-forsaken bogans from being an oversized province of the People's Republic of China.
@@rationalmuscle "Why do you want an abortion?" "Because it's fun!" No one has ever said that about abortions who wanted one. THAT is a strawman argument. You are giving a position no one holds that is extreme to make it easy to attack.
@rationalmuscle he starts by describing the most ridiculous scenario he can think of to discredit the argument instead of engaging with it. He literally said no SCJ uses religion to make decisions then describes God needing to speak to them directly in order for them to be influenced by religion. I honestly find these talks with Dinesh to be kind of boring as the man can barely defend his points.
I try to explain this to Christians, the reason the founding fathers put freedom of religion in the constitution is because they saw firsthand the damages the Vatican and Church of England had on local politics. It’s frustrating for sure
So why one nation under God... you are exfoliating your own personal disdain for religious belief, and projecting it. I'm not gonna say you are right or wrong, idk. However, please don't project personally motivated claims, leaving out key factors as factual.
This should rather be a discussion on whether BATMAN actually walked the streets of Gotham City. How grown up so called adult brains can believe in a talking snake, an Arc that was built to house male every species of male and female mammals in the Middle East. A woman turning into a pile of salt. Departing oceans that create a highway for escape. A woman falling pregnant at the age of 100 and giving birth. A man who lived for 400 years. Flying off to paradise on a unicorn. WTF !!!
259102--Already Danesh is incorrect. Hitchens did not believe anything. WHY? Becsuse the word, believe, indicated to accept some thing as true for which you have no evidential proof.
Christs precepts and parables were not irrational, he culturally created the moral yardstick everyone (including atheists) use today. Its the bald guys choice to say the belief in Jesus as God is irrational but that belief we hold is not harming society, it makes it far better as at least some of us dont do certain things we would if we didn't believe God is watching us.
fallacious appeal to authority that cannot be demonstrated.... just drop the microphone please. bam. late term... someone please prove this late term nonsense that's being used to "radicalize" the issue... dinesh. having him debate is like bringing a fork to a gunfight.
I really do wish men would just shut up about abortions. They have no say. They aren’t risking their lives these to birth to a child. This is why I tune out when men start talking about abortions because they really don’t have any opinion and I don’t value any of their opinions on abortion.
Maybe this is why the pro side keeps losing. You won’t engage in the discussion and are clearly sexist yourself. For clarity I’m not anti-abortion, but since I’m male it’s a crime in your eyes to have any opinions on it all I guess.
Let’s assume religion is removed from politics and scaled down to a household practice, if not entirely eradicated from the collective social mind. Would this reduce inequality? Would it curb corruption? Would it halt humanity's descent into chaos? Consider for example the deliberate and codified mechanisms used to manipulate human behavior-such as advertising, consumption and political ethos pathos relationship which often fused with manipulative tactics. The advertising industry employs empirical psychological findings to sell products, often without consumers realizing they are being manipulated. Is this the fault of religion? I wager that both simple and nuanced answers are 'no.' This is yet another discussion, reduced to vibrating molecules of conversation, seemingly deaf to historical and anthropological insights. A philosopher who debates human faculties without grounding their arguments in anthropology, I would contend, is likely to produce a shallow thesis. To claim that "religion poisons politics," and by extension humans-since humans are inherently political animals-is a thesis that strikes me as overly reductive. It seems more like yet another regurgitative mill for likes, shares, and clickbait, rather than a serious engagement with the complexities of history, culture, and human nature.
Cultural values is one of the factors in why people vote a certain way, including both religious and secular folks. Always been that way and always will. It's just democracy. Debating this in the abstract is a waste of time.
@@Gerryjournal Religious communities are part of the larger culture. Just as atheist or secular humanist or scientific or business or artistic circles are parts of the larger culture. Etc. Voting decisions are made by people and their values. That isn't going to change.
Full discussion here: ua-cam.com/video/yR_ueXuBiww/v-deo.htmlsi=4oJ74mnaGP-n2vrW
I still don't understand why people give Dinesh airtime. He is full of shit.
Asky ur Anti religion grift channel. This Pangburn shit gives more coverage other grifts becoz this is also a grift channel
Haha, he's only famous from getting buried by atheists in UA-cam uploads. He's gotta be finished by now
@adnanmir2873 You can't be serious. You're anti-religion about 99.9% of the religions that have ever been made, right? You wouldn't prefer to live under Islamic Sharia Law or the Hindu Caste System rather than Secularism, would you? Pangburn is only against anti-intellectualism. It just so happens that popular forms of religious expression are the greatest sources of this at the moment. But they also host debates on other anti-intellectual topics like "alien visitations".
Coming out his eyeballs.
As an Australian, and I think I can confidentiality speak for all developed nations, I am jaw-droppingly staggered at the religiosity of America in the 21st century. Of course, the blame must go to the inward looking bubble that Americans have lived in since WWII. We have all moved on and left the US wallowing in the last century
How is Australia benefiting by doing away with Christianity?
It would be shocking if you spoke for even the drunken inbreds of Tasmania. At any rate, I'm sure Americans appreciate your gratitude to them for preventing you God-forsaken bogans from being an oversized province of the People's Republic of China.
Dinesh has to create a strawman with each objection. It shows how dishonest his arguments are.
What was his strawman in this argument?
@@rationalmuscle "Why do you want an abortion?" "Because it's fun!"
No one has ever said that about abortions who wanted one. THAT is a strawman argument. You are giving a position no one holds that is extreme to make it easy to attack.
@rationalmuscle he starts by describing the most ridiculous scenario he can think of to discredit the argument instead of engaging with it. He literally said no SCJ uses religion to make decisions then describes God needing to speak to them directly in order for them to be influenced by religion. I honestly find these talks with Dinesh to be kind of boring as the man can barely defend his points.
I try to explain this to Christians, the reason the founding fathers put freedom of religion in the constitution is because they saw firsthand the damages the Vatican and Church of England had on local politics. It’s frustrating for sure
So why one nation under God... you are exfoliating your own personal disdain for religious belief, and projecting it.
I'm not gonna say you are right or wrong, idk.
However, please don't project personally motivated claims, leaving out key factors as factual.
@@zodiacmusic5029 Yeah, why did they want independence from a ruler ordained by God?
@@zodiacmusic5029One nation under God is a phrase that came about in the 1950s
A key phrase there was, “converted by Portuguese missionaries.”
Yet he remains oblivious, like latinos with the Spaniards and black americans with their european slavemasters. The stupidity is shocking
This should rather be a discussion on whether BATMAN actually walked the streets of Gotham City. How grown up so called adult brains can believe in a talking snake, an Arc that was built to house male every species of male and female mammals in the Middle East. A woman turning into a pile of salt. Departing oceans that create a highway for escape. A woman falling pregnant at the age of 100 and giving birth. A man who lived for 400 years. Flying off to paradise on a unicorn. WTF !!!
8 minuets of D'Souza is 8 minuets of wasted time.
Straight away D'Souza uses immature names and stupid sayings ?
When you can prove your God exists, then I'll believe there's a God that's a monster !
what DOESN’T religion poison?
Dinesh is a professional liar.
2,000 Mules.
"Ok , ok, i lied. It was 350 Mules and a shetland pony."
-not really Dinesh DeSouza
Was so ready for full WHOLE debate/discussion! This ‘teaser’ snippet was still quite riveting tho.. TY!
Edit: I now see link for full.. TY AGAIN! 👍🏻👍🏻
Isn't this the doosh that made 2000 mules .
Absofuckinglutely? A lot of people in office cannot keep church and state separation ?
Dinesh is basically known as the Indian guy who is always getting schooled by atheists. Must suck to him, just an embarrassing apologist.
Not only is USA is intricate in our culture. No country escaped this theater of horror and monsters...
Religion doesn't poison politics. Religious people do.
How much bullshit does Dillahunty have to Listen to before Explosion?
Any ideologies poison US politics.
Does Dinesh's god think voting fraud is a sin?
Out of the gate Dinesh says he was Christian as a child, when it was Catholic. Hmm.
259102--Already Danesh is incorrect. Hitchens did not believe anything. WHY? Becsuse the word, believe, indicated to accept some thing as true for which you have no evidential proof.
What do you know about Indic philosophy
Whats the difference between advertising and religion? Both are selling you something, trying to get you to give money and time to a product.
Christs precepts and parables were not irrational, he culturally created the moral yardstick everyone (including atheists) use today. Its the bald guys choice to say the belief in Jesus as God is irrational but that belief we hold is not harming society, it makes it far better as at least some of us dont do certain things we would if we didn't believe God is watching us.
fallacious appeal to authority that cannot be demonstrated.... just drop the microphone please. bam. late term... someone please prove this late term nonsense that's being used to "radicalize" the issue... dinesh. having him debate is like bringing a fork to a gunfight.
De Sousa is so smug in his stupidity
Dineshes religious views are irrational Matt's political views are irattional
Awful lot of clowns in these comments 😂😂
I really do wish men would just shut up about abortions. They have no say. They aren’t risking their lives these to birth to a child. This is why I tune out when men start talking about abortions because they really don’t have any opinion and I don’t value any of their opinions on abortion.
Maybe this is why the pro side keeps losing. You won’t engage in the discussion and are clearly sexist yourself. For clarity I’m not anti-abortion, but since I’m male it’s a crime in your eyes to have any opinions on it all I guess.
Ok, then women need to STFU about war, because they don’t fight and die in it. How about that?
Damn woke craps lol
Let’s assume religion is removed from politics and scaled down to a household practice, if not entirely eradicated from the collective social mind. Would this reduce inequality? Would it curb corruption? Would it halt humanity's descent into chaos?
Consider for example the deliberate and codified mechanisms used to manipulate human behavior-such as advertising, consumption and political ethos pathos relationship which often fused with manipulative tactics. The advertising industry employs empirical psychological findings to sell products, often without consumers realizing they are being manipulated. Is this the fault of religion?
I wager that both simple and nuanced answers are 'no.' This is yet another discussion, reduced to vibrating molecules of conversation, seemingly deaf to historical and anthropological insights.
A philosopher who debates human faculties without grounding their arguments in anthropology, I would contend, is likely to produce a shallow thesis.
To claim that "religion poisons politics," and by extension humans-since humans are inherently political animals-is a thesis that strikes me as overly reductive. It seems more like yet another regurgitative mill for likes, shares, and clickbait, rather than a serious engagement with the complexities of history, culture, and human nature.
Since religion isn't the cause of ALL problems, it shouldn't be criticized for the problems that it does create? Wtf are you talking about?
lots of countries where religion plays a very small role.
and they are also top of the list countries.
What's overly reductive is Messiah, prophet, Noah's ark, monotheism claims
Every species and life form ever known in the cosmos.. is here, on Earth.
And life coming from nothing has never been replicated.
Let that sink in.
Define life.
Has life ever come from nothing?
Cultural values is one of the factors in why people vote a certain way, including both religious and secular folks. Always been that way and always will. It's just democracy.
Debating this in the abstract is a waste of time.
Culture is changed by religiosity
@@Gerryjournal Religious communities are part of the larger culture. Just as atheist or secular humanist or scientific or business or artistic circles are parts of the larger culture. Etc.
Voting decisions are made by people and their values. That isn't going to change.
@@stephenbailey9969 That's not what I remarked on