Agreed man. The entire team he was handed from the previous drafts 2000-2005 are the players who were the real core pieces to the 2011 bruins cup. He's one of those GMs that 95% of fans could do a better job than him.
@@SamGautreau7 ... how do you figure? Erat was acquired in 2013, and traded in 2014. Caps won the Cup in 2018. That trade was 100% irrelevant to the Caps winning - except they might have done it a few years earlier if they had kept Forsberg.
Jason Williams Because the Erat trade got George Mcphee fired. And their current gm, Brian Mclellan is one of the reasons why they were even able to win the cup. He made some key trades after being hired which led them to win the cup. If that trade never happened, Mcphee would probably still be gm or he would’ve been fired a couple years too late and they never would’ve won the cup
@@RobTalksHockey As a sens fan that trade hurts, Zibanejad is a beast. It could still work out though, we got Gustavsson and a 2018 1st rounder (Bernard Docker) when we traded Brassard.
The point of the video isn't 'bad trades', it's ones that specifically backfired. Nobody looked at that trade when it happened and thought the Habs won the deal.
@@FHL-Devils Wasn't it being called the Scott Gomez deal because they thought that? And is now called the McDonough trade because it's clear who won now?
I think you misspoke about the Hawks trade. Hawks won in 2015 against the Lightning, so it wasn't 3 years removed... Also regarding the Danault trade, at the time I think he didn't fit into Joel Quenneville's coaching scheme. Q had that tendency with several young players where they wouldn't get a lot of quality playing time and the limited time they had weren't the most productive. Yes Danault turned into a very solid player, but at the time of the trade and with Anisimov and Toews on the roster there wasn't going to be a way for him to crack the top of the lineup. Little did we know the changes the Hawks would make in trading Anisimov as well as other moves..
You made a mistake here - you said in 2016 that Chicago was 3 years removed from the last Stanley Cup but they won it just a year prior against Tampa in 2015.
To be faiiir the Leafs prospect development was utterly horrendous back then. Tuuka would have likely busted in Toronto and Poigge could have gone on to win Cups elsewhere.
Subban for Mountain man Weber Galchy for Domi Patch for Suzuki Tatar Norlinder LeGuerrier ( best trade ever ) Petry for second and fifth round picks Weise + Fleishman for Romanov + Danault ( second best trade ever ) Kovalchuk for free. One month later he receives a third round pick Round 4 for Scandella and 1 month later he receives a second round pick and a conditionnal fourth round picks Bergevin is a real machine and the best DG in the NHL for the trades. In 8 years, just one so so move with Sergachev vs Drouin. Really smart guy.
Nic C. Well ..... sergachev vs drouin is still debatable because drouin can bring some good offense(sometimes)...... but there is still a mistake for me!!! Acquiring Andrew Shaw for 2 second round(alex DeBrincat) ..... minor mistake
@@NIC-iu5eu to be fair sergachev for drouin was straight up a mistake, that being said, overall he is a fantastic gm, you gm for so long you're not going to have a 100% win record
I personally love your short clips , great content in every one of them. As for live streaming , there is one channel out there that is truly awesome by an ex coach and scout that does a play by play better than some sport broadcasters even. Hockey nation live stream , great stream.
Why am I watching this as a Leafs fan.... I already know it won't be pretty Edit: Omg we actually didn't make the list... I don't know whether to be happy the Leafs didn't make the list, or sad that I'm so shocked by our absence
Ya the Oilers, they traded 1st round pick for Griffin Reinhart. And too add salt in the wound, Barzal and Eberle have great chemistry, Draisaitl and mcdavid could have been the 1st line, RNH Ebs and Barzal could have been the second line. Uhg.
Trading JT Miller and McDonagh for Namestnikov, Howden, Hajek and a first. The killer is JT Miller, we traded him cause Alain Vineaglt didnt like him. Worst parts are AV got fired two months after and Miller blossomed into a star with Vancouver while the rangers are shopping for a 2nd line center, imagine if we still had Miller
Einarinen well ik, but Gorton is shopping for a 2C from articles I read, and how we played in the qualifiers. And I personally think Stromes gone in the offseason
Yes. As a Leafs fan, and more importantly a huge Nazem Kadri fan, owning a signed London Knights jersey, a signed Leafs jersey and a signed rookie card, the Toronto Maple Leafs traded Nazem Kadri for Tyson Barrie and Alex Kerfoot; more accurately, Tyson Barrie, Alexander Kerfoot and a 2020 sixth-round draft pick from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for centre Nazem Kadri, defenceman Calle Rosen and Toronto’s 2020 third-round pick. This has not boded well for the Leafs, but has for Kadri fans, as he has a chance at a Stanley Cup ring for the next 1/2 decade or so.
Forsberg for Erat...McDonagh for Gomez...if you guys think that's bad...here's something even WORSE - Marcel Dionne traded from Detroit to LA. - Phil Esposito (Dominik Hasek) traded from Chicago to Boston (Buffalo) - Ken Dryden traded from Boston to Montreal. - Guy Lafleur trade (Habs GM did that trade with the purpose of getting the 1st overall pick....savage) - Ottawa trades Alexei Yashin for 2nd OA and Zdeno Chara (that Duchene trade might be karma for screwing the Islanders lol) - Scott Niedermayer trade - Rod Langway traded from Montreal to Washington - Chris Chelios traded from Montreal to Chicago. - Red Kelly traded from Detroit to Toronto. - Joe Thornton traded from Boston to SJS. - Kessel for Seguin, Hamilton and a 2nd. - Ron Francis traded from Hartford to Pittsburgh.
Rangers once traded young Rick Middleton for old and broken down Ken Hodge. Middleton ended up having his number retired in Boston, I think Hodge might have ended up in the AHL or something,
I am surprised that you didn't mention Eric Karlsson trade which resulted Josh Noris and Tim Stutzle, Zac Opstapchuck, Tim Stutzle career is 91 goals 156 assist with 247 points, this trade was a complete steal for the Ottawa Senators makes San Jose Sharks embarrassment ,
When Duchene came to Columbus I worked for the team. He came by to pick up a bunch of his luggage from our security office. He didn't have a car yet and asked if I could call him a cab. Without thinking I repleid "Still too soon to go back to Uber, huh?" He did not laugh.
As bad as the duchene trade is isolated. I don’t think Ottawa would have been put in a spot otherwise to commit to a rebuild, trading karlsson and others to get prospects, and ultimately getting 2 top-5 picks in what may be looked upon down the road as one of the deepest drafts in history. Bad trade led to a much needed rebuild and what’s looking like a bright future.
I’m a Canes fan and it sucks that no one really talks about the best trade in our history ever. Chicago Gets: Two 3rd Round Picks Carolina Gets: Brain Bickell and Teuvo Teraviainen. That’s right folks we got Teuvo, a 80 Point player, for 2 3rd round picks.
Wild fan here, here is some of the worst - Nick leddy/Kim johnnson for cam barker. Brent burns for setoguchi, Charlie coyle and 1st rd pick (zach phillips). Nino niederreiter for Viktor rask. 1st round/2nd round/conditional pick and Grayson downing for Martin hanzal(rental), Ryan white, and a 4th Alex tuch to las Vegas during expansion to guarantee they pick erik haula (basicly to prevent loss of defenseman dumba)
I love your lists. I wonder if you could do team lists such as best lines in the NHL, they vould even be best offensive, best defensive, pk, pp, whatever! Anyhow, looking forward to your next list. 😁
I still can't understand why on earth Florida gave up Marhessault. Everyone could see that this guy would be a really good goal scorer. Doesn't make any sense.
Toronto: Russ Courtnall for John Kordic. Toronto.... Rask for Raycroft. Toronto... Lanny McDonald and Joel Quenville for Hickey and Paiement. Toronto" Bernie Parent for a draft pick and future considerations. I could go on but I've been a Leafs fan since 1965 and the list could get long.
Sens we’re making bad trades long before Matt duchane. Sens traded mika zabenijad for next to nothing the year before their playoff push, and with such a high octane player on their side sens might have actually taken the cup in 2017. The sens also really messed up with the Vegas draft, as they lost 2 really important players because of a no trade clause
Trades are more complicated than you make it out to be. Take Panarin for Saad. Everyone said that Chicago lost that trade, Panarin is elite players and Saad is just great. 2 years later Panarin left Bluejackets (which he would have done in Chicago as well since both teams didn't have enough space in salary cap). So sometimes you need to make bad deals.
As bad as the Panarin to Columbus trade is made out to be by hockey UA-camrs (the one that is brought up the most as Bowman's worst trade), he was signed to a "bridge" contract meaning that he was going to be trade at some point during the 2 year deal or let walk in FA when it was up. The Danualt trade was much worse in my opinion, being that it was easily avoidable and didn't need to happen at all. I have it tied for Bowman's worst trade (of the ones that the results have shown for both teams) with the trading of Teravainen (this is were looking ahead via salary cap situation and trading Panarin might've been the better option and more justifiable) to get out of Bryan Bickell's contract for a 2016 2nd round pick (Artur Kayumov is playing in the KHL until at least 2022) and a 2017 3rd round pick (was traded) .Will have to wait to see what Montreal does with the picks that they have acquired from the Andrew Shaw back to Chicago trade either way it is another bad trade by Stan Bowman.
I think one of the things that make your videos good is all the footage you show. Feels like a real TSN segment or something. Not just a 15 minute webcam shot.
Pens fans rake us Caps fans over the coals for the Filip Forsberg trade, but I call their bluff, cause the Pens also made a similar blunder years before we did. Did you know Markus Naslund actually began his career in Pittsburgh, and he used to play on the same line as Super Mario himself? Apparently, Naslund wasn't too happy in Pittsburgh, and that may be why his career started off pretty sluggish, so he was shipped to Vancouver in exchange for Alek Stojanov, who flamed out pretty quickly. I'm guessing this is why a certain bunch of Yinzers are so adamant about the Canucks giving them Elias Pettersson (a fellow Swede like Naslund) as "compensation" for fleecing them. I mean, when a player named Pettersson was traded to them, Yinzers on Twitter were celebrating their "heist of the century", thinking it was Elias when it was actually Marcus Petterson, a defenseman (and no, Elias and Marcus are not related), coming their way.
That Duchene trade was wild from the start. We never were going to contend that year. Ottawa only were winners every two years under Craig Anderson. I would have rather had kept the pick and traded Turris as if we were sellers given that every player we have bought has been a bust since 2009. In addition all smart market teams should be sellers. I hope DeBrincat works out but I'm being realistic given how we have him for 2 years and how are other american sniper we acquired worked out. Imagine Zegras or Byram on the sens and we had Norris and Stuzle in the pipeline as well. Could have drafted a sniper in 2020.
At the time, I used to think Vancouver was absolutely crazy for trading Cory Schneider to New Jersey...but that turned into Bo Horvat so I’m no longer complaining.
Yeah that trade for Ottawa may not of worked out for us but having to trade some of better players we got some good prospects and picks in return, and now we have 2 pick in the top 5 and at least 5 pick through the first two rounds so I think we’ll be ok this is one of the better drafts in a few years
Islanders, if you exclude pretty much every move Mike Milbury made, I would have to say trading 1st and 2nd round picks and Matt Moulson for Thomas Vanek only to dump Vanek later that same year for nothing.
The Smith and Marchessault trade to Vegas was more of throwing Marchessault in as a sweetener to take on Reilly Smith's contract, which freed up $5M in cap.
Thought I would see the Erik Karlsson trade that ended up resulting in Ottawa getting Byfield/Stutzle, Josh Norris (AHL ROTY), Balcers, Chris Tierney, Dylan Demelo (now a 3rd round pick) and a few other assets I might be forgetting. Sharks have a massive Karlsson contract now for 7 more years and a Karlsson that seems to be declining (never know, he might bounce back)
@@metalheadcol Yeah, but I'm looking at an Erik Karlsson on an 11.5 million dollar contract for 7 more years. Currently sitting at 3 points and a -6. No one expected the Sens to be good this season, I expect them to be at least somewhat competitive next season and grow from that. Another top 5 pick wouldn't hurt them either..
You say bad trades and I immediately think about that Scott Gomez for Ryan McDonagh deal...This one will hurt for a while for sure It's also crazy to see so many people saying that Marc Bergevin is a terrible GM while he's in involved in the upside of 2 of your top 5 trades that backfired... I hate to call myself a Montreal fan sometimes maaan
Yep I also find that very interesting. Bergevin very polarizing haha. He is either making tremendous trades, or doing things that make you question his sanity.
My Bruins made a bad trade, and not the Thornton, Seguin, or Hamilton trades. I’m talking about the Rick Nash trade, lost Ryan Lindgren for basically nothing
Hey on the bright side. Somehow after trading away multiple superstar for next to no return. You guys are still consistently one of the most dominate teams in the league haha
As a Caps fan there is that Erat trade that was just simply stupid because they took 4.5 cap hit dump and Latta and that was worth F.Forsberg somehow. Tuukka Rask trade is one bad too. Griffin Reinhart for 1st round pick(Barzal) is awful too. Hall for Larsson is bad and made even worse as they used that Hall cap hit money for Lucic.
Romanov is more likely to become a good top4 dmen then a top pair guy(still good for a second tho). I think the big one that comes to mind is the Gomez trade for montre it was terrible the day it happened and somehow got even worst as time went on....at least it was following an epic draft by mtl in the first and second round (Mcdonagh, Pacioretty and subban)
LoL you clearly don't understand the FLA situation, where they protected Petrovic. It was about the rules on positional protection. Which made it very hard to make solid trades for draft picks during that Vegas expansion draft.
Has your team ever made a trade that BACKFIRED?! And no Danault wasn't the 1st overall pick... lol
Rob Talks Hockey Leafs trading Kadri for Kerfoot and Barrie.
Prospect Ryan McDonagh for Scott Gomez and his 7.3M cap hit...
Pens trading Markus naslund for 1991 7th overall pick Alex stojanov
Ryukasan1 😕
Caps trading Filip Forsberg.
Everything peter charelli did in his lifetime
Haha!
Mcdavid ring a bell?
@@Redditaurus even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Yup, and I'm an Oilers fan. *sigh*
Agreed man. The entire team he was handed from the previous drafts 2000-2005 are the players who were the real core pieces to the 2011 bruins cup. He's one of those GMs that 95% of fans could do a better job than him.
Forsberg for Erat, it hurts “TILL THIS DAY”
Nate Superfighter Devesion Diaz I’m not saying it was a good trade but if it wasn’t for that you guys would’ve never won the cup
@@SamGautreau7 ... how do you figure? Erat was acquired in 2013, and traded in 2014. Caps won the Cup in 2018. That trade was 100% irrelevant to the Caps winning - except they might have done it a few years earlier if they had kept Forsberg.
Jason Williams Because the Erat trade got George Mcphee fired. And their current gm, Brian Mclellan is one of the reasons why they were even able to win the cup. He made some key trades after being hired which led them to win the cup. If that trade never happened, Mcphee would probably still be gm or he would’ve been fired a couple years too late and they never would’ve won the cup
@@SamGautreau7 - I see your point, but that's a big stretch...
Sam Gautreau 100%
Kempny was such a vital cog to the Caps SC win.
You should've added the Mika Zibanejad trade.
Rangers Acquire: Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick
Senators Acquire: Derrick Brassard and a 4th round pick
@Thanh Collie I thought it was a 7th not a 4th
@@taranloses You're right. I made a typo
@@thanhcollie360 On the plus side they flipped Brassard for a blue chip defensive prospect. But this one was horrendous
@Simon Farre we all know swedes are good. They re not underestimate.
@@RobTalksHockey As a sens fan that trade hurts, Zibanejad is a beast. It could still work out though, we got Gustavsson and a 2018 1st rounder (Bernard Docker) when we traded Brassard.
Tyson Barrie trade to Maple Leafs, Sakic made out with that trade too..
Yep...
I'd swear that Sakic is offering drugs and a lot of cash under the table to get some of the deals he gets.
Sakic 4D chess GM skills
Agree, matthews JT and kadri would be the deepest cetre combo in the league, now Toronto is suffering an identy crisis
Kadri and Hutchinson baby!
Nashville is out...Duchene is a legit bad luck charm
NY Rangers trading Scott Gomez to Montreal. Enough said.
Try rask for Raycroft
The point of the video isn't 'bad trades', it's ones that specifically backfired. Nobody looked at that trade when it happened and thought the Habs won the deal.
@@FHL-Devils Wasn't it being called the Scott Gomez deal because they thought that? And is now called the McDonough trade because it's clear who won now?
@@FHL-Devils As a Rangers fan, I was happy to see Gomez go, dude was declining.
Andrew Hammond had more playoff wins with the avalanche than matt duchene had playoff goals with the avs
I think you misspoke about the Hawks trade. Hawks won in 2015 against the Lightning, so it wasn't 3 years removed...
Also regarding the Danault trade, at the time I think he didn't fit into Joel Quenneville's coaching scheme. Q had that tendency with several young players where they wouldn't get a lot of quality playing time and the limited time they had weren't the most productive. Yes Danault turned into a very solid player, but at the time of the trade and with Anisimov and Toews on the roster there wasn't going to be a way for him to crack the top of the lineup. Little did we know the changes the Hawks would make in trading Anisimov as well as other moves..
You made a mistake here - you said in 2016 that Chicago was 3 years removed from the last Stanley Cup but they won it just a year prior against Tampa in 2015.
@@Belevis he said in the video when talking about 2016 that they hadnt won in three years (since ‘13), but hes wrong, they won in 2015.
@@Belevis Yeah I mistyped and put 2013 instead of 2016, which is what he said. Glad to make a year-old edit.
At the very start I thought it was duchene talking lol
Lol so did I, i thought for sure the sound and video weren't synced
Hahaha
Lol
“DuBois, Werenski, and Jones”
This didn’t age well. Never leave us, Werenski
aged like fucking milk
Duchene trade: This is the most lopsided trade the Sens have ever been involved in
Karlsson trade: Hold my skates.
Phil kessel for tyler segin & doug Hamilton 😅😅
Tukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft....
This list can go on...
To be faiiir the Leafs prospect development was utterly horrendous back then. Tuuka would have likely busted in Toronto and Poigge could have gone on to win Cups elsewhere.
Marc Bergevin is probably one of the smartest GM in NHL.
Subban for Mountain man Weber
Galchy for Domi
Patch for Suzuki Tatar Norlinder LeGuerrier ( best trade ever )
Petry for second and fifth round picks
Weise + Fleishman for Romanov + Danault ( second best trade ever )
Kovalchuk for free. One month later he receives a third round pick
Round 4 for Scandella and 1 month later he receives a second round pick and a conditionnal fourth round picks
Bergevin is a real machine and the best DG in the NHL for the trades. In 8 years, just one so so move with Sergachev vs Drouin. Really smart guy.
Nic C. Well ..... sergachev vs drouin is still debatable because drouin can bring some good offense(sometimes)...... but there is still a mistake for me!!!
Acquiring Andrew Shaw for 2 second round(alex DeBrincat)
..... minor mistake
Lowkey
@@NIC-iu5eu The Petry trade was pretty good too.
@@NIC-iu5eu to be fair sergachev for drouin was straight up a mistake, that being said, overall he is a fantastic gm, you gm for so long you're not going to have a 100% win record
Pens fan here. Markus Naslund for Alek Stojanov...
second that
I personally love your short clips , great content in every one of them. As for live streaming , there is one channel out there that is truly awesome by an ex coach and scout that does a play by play better than some sport broadcasters even. Hockey nation live stream , great stream.
Two words, Tyler Seguin
July 4, 2013 is still one of the saddest days of my life
You had to bring up the Vegas expansion draft 😭. I miss Marchy and Reilly in Florida ahhhhh
Yeah sadly :/
Rob Talks Hockey I still get nightmares from it
I loath how much leverage vegas had in that draft. I hate vegas for that. they cheated the system and dum gms took the bait.
Nick Suzuki is a great playmaker and has an incredible hockey IQ! He’s right now the best prospect of the Canadiens with KK
As long as there was Anisimov and Toews, there was no way Danault would’ve become a Top 6 Centerman.
Very true!
He's a very good 3rd line center on the Habs right now
Sir Lilius Peeper bro he’s a first liner
@@kevind.lacroix8900 he's their top centre and one of the best faceoff takers in the NHL lol
I would've rather gave them Marcus Kruger instead.
the Phil the thrill Kessel trade backfired terribly. I know you've covered it before, but damn we missed out on a lot haha
Taylor Hall - Adam Larsson trade backfired right as it happened...
WTF?! No one ever said Ottawa stole Duchene?! Even before the high draft pick.
That O'Rielly trade was just brutal.
Avs have had some awesome trades with Eric Lindros, Duchene, Barrie!
Consider the fact Lindros and Duchene were both cancerous, they ended being the organization's biggest blessing
Yea the avs have been really fortunate with their trades throughout their history. Forsberg, Roy, duchene, barrie, oreilly
Well.
*moment of silence for sharks fans*
They already lost the trade and we don't even know how Ottawa's 1st round pick is gonna turn out
The Bruins gave away joe Thornton to San Jose. I don't feel bad for them lol.
@@gamogi7142 spoiler: the sens rookies from that trade Josh Norris and Tim Stutzle are doing great!!
Why am I watching this as a Leafs fan.... I already know it won't be pretty
Edit: Omg we actually didn't make the list... I don't know whether to be happy the Leafs didn't make the list, or sad that I'm so shocked by our absence
I've been watching so many of your vids so I just had to finally subscribe! 😁
Haha welcome aboard.
Ya the Oilers, they traded 1st round pick for Griffin Reinhart. And too add salt in the wound, Barzal and Eberle have great chemistry, Draisaitl and mcdavid could have been the 1st line, RNH Ebs and Barzal could have been the second line. Uhg.
@2:28 (um...the Hawks won the cup in 2015...so in 2016 they weren't 3 years removed from the last cup)
Yes sir. I goofed
@@RobTalksHockey we all do at one time or another. Doesnt mean the channel still isn't awesome.
O Reilly trade could literally be in every video lmao
yep sadly.
Except this one 🤣
Have you ever covered the MN Wild? You could probably make an entire video on how much of a dumpster fire they are.
Two words (kinda), P.K. Subban
Trading JT Miller and McDonagh for Namestnikov, Howden, Hajek and a first.
The killer is JT Miller, we traded him cause Alain Vineaglt didnt like him.
Worst parts are AV got fired two months after and Miller blossomed into a star with Vancouver while the rangers are shopping for a 2nd line center, imagine if we still had Miller
Strome
Einarinen well ik, but Gorton is shopping for a 2C from articles I read, and how we played in the qualifiers. And I personally think Stromes gone in the offseason
Marvin Santana yea i agree, i know what we need, and thats a good two way 2C
Last time i was tais early Jonathan cheechoo had a rocket Richard
Haha!
Did you call danault a first overall pick 😂
Yes :/ and if I say it, then it’s true. Philip Danault all star and former 1st overall pick
Great first overall pick, fail for Nail? Nah. Don’t know for Danault.
Danault Is better then get ready for it
MILAN LUCIC!!!!!!
Last time I was this early Yakupov was a NHLer
Yes. As a Leafs fan, and more importantly a huge Nazem Kadri fan, owning a signed London Knights jersey, a signed Leafs jersey and a signed rookie card, the Toronto Maple Leafs traded Nazem Kadri for Tyson Barrie and Alex Kerfoot; more accurately, Tyson Barrie, Alexander Kerfoot and a 2020 sixth-round draft pick from the Colorado Avalanche in exchange for centre Nazem Kadri, defenceman Calle Rosen and Toronto’s 2020 third-round pick.
This has not boded well for the Leafs, but has for Kadri fans, as he has a chance at a Stanley Cup ring for the next 1/2 decade or so.
Forsberg for Erat...McDonagh for Gomez...if you guys think that's bad...here's something even WORSE
- Marcel Dionne traded from Detroit to LA.
- Phil Esposito (Dominik Hasek) traded from Chicago to Boston (Buffalo)
- Ken Dryden traded from Boston to Montreal.
- Guy Lafleur trade (Habs GM did that trade with the purpose of getting the 1st overall pick....savage)
- Ottawa trades Alexei Yashin for 2nd OA and Zdeno Chara (that Duchene trade might be karma for screwing the Islanders lol)
- Scott Niedermayer trade
- Rod Langway traded from Montreal to Washington
- Chris Chelios traded from Montreal to Chicago.
- Red Kelly traded from Detroit to Toronto.
- Joe Thornton traded from Boston to SJS.
- Kessel for Seguin, Hamilton and a 2nd.
- Ron Francis traded from Hartford to Pittsburgh.
Amazing the lowly Habs got in on two total steals.
The Tyler Madden + 2020 2nd rounder trade for Toffoli by LA Kings might end up like this haha... Wouldn't be surprised :)
Rangers once traded young Rick Middleton for old and broken down Ken Hodge. Middleton ended up having his number retired in Boston, I think Hodge might have ended up in the AHL or something,
If you want to go old school Bruins you could look at the Neely for Barry Pederson deal.
I am surprised that you didn't mention Eric Karlsson trade which resulted Josh Noris and Tim Stutzle, Zac Opstapchuck, Tim Stutzle career is 91 goals 156 assist with 247 points, this trade was a complete steal for the Ottawa Senators makes San Jose Sharks embarrassment ,
When Duchene came to Columbus I worked for the team. He came by to pick up a bunch of his luggage from our security office. He didn't have a car yet and asked if I could call him a cab. Without thinking I repleid "Still too soon to go back to Uber, huh?" He did not laugh.
As bad as the duchene trade is isolated. I don’t think Ottawa would have been put in a spot otherwise to commit to a rebuild, trading karlsson and others to get prospects, and ultimately getting 2 top-5 picks in what may be looked upon down the road as one of the deepest drafts in history. Bad trade led to a much needed rebuild and what’s looking like a bright future.
I’m a Canes fan and it sucks that no one really talks about the best trade in our history ever.
Chicago Gets: Two 3rd Round Picks
Carolina Gets: Brain Bickell and Teuvo Teraviainen.
That’s right folks we got Teuvo, a 80 Point player, for 2 3rd round picks.
Wild fan here, here is some of the worst -
Nick leddy/Kim johnnson for cam barker.
Brent burns for setoguchi, Charlie coyle and 1st rd pick (zach phillips).
Nino niederreiter for Viktor rask.
1st round/2nd round/conditional pick and Grayson downing for Martin hanzal(rental), Ryan white, and a 4th
Alex tuch to las Vegas during expansion to guarantee they pick erik haula (basicly to prevent loss of defenseman dumba)
Max Pacioretty
: master of shooting in empty nets.
What about the trade that sent karalson to San Jose grade was horrible for San Jose
Columbus knew they were sending the 8th overall pick to Philly. Trade happened a couple days before the 2011 draft so the order was set
I love your lists. I wonder if you could do team lists such as best lines in the NHL, they vould even be best offensive, best defensive, pk, pp, whatever! Anyhow, looking forward to your next list. 😁
I still can't understand why on earth Florida gave up Marhessault. Everyone could see that this guy would be a really good goal scorer. Doesn't make any sense.
He wasnt traded
Joe Sakic was playing 6D chess when building the Avs
Toronto: Russ Courtnall for John Kordic. Toronto.... Rask for Raycroft. Toronto... Lanny McDonald and Joel Quenville for Hickey and Paiement. Toronto" Bernie Parent for a draft pick and future considerations. I could go on but I've been a Leafs fan since 1965 and the list could get long.
Surprised you didn't mention Sam Girard in the Duchene trade. Coming off a Norris caliber campaign
This was a year ago buddy
And that wasn’t a Norris caliber season
Sens we’re making bad trades long before Matt duchane. Sens traded mika zabenijad for next to nothing the year before their playoff push, and with such a high octane player on their side sens might have actually taken the cup in 2017. The sens also really messed up with the Vegas draft, as they lost 2 really important players because of a no trade clause
Phillip danault is the best 1st overall pick
Vasy, Vasy (2012 first round pick) for freakin Kyle-Quincy
"2016 the blackhawks were 3 years removed from their last stanley cup" Did you forget they were the reigning champs that year? Lol
Your vids are insane Rob in my personal opinion I think your the best hockey UA-camr, your my personal favourite hockey UA-camr without a doubt 👏👏
Trades are more complicated than you make it out to be. Take Panarin for Saad. Everyone said that Chicago lost that trade, Panarin is elite players and Saad is just great. 2 years later Panarin left Bluejackets (which he would have done in Chicago as well since both teams didn't have enough space in salary cap). So sometimes you need to make bad deals.
The flames 10 man trade with Leafs which included Gilmore was one of the biggest robberies of all time for the Leafs
Ottawa has been nothing but a tire fire almost from day 1
I decided to suscribe !
Good videos !
Would love to see you livestream Rob! Great video as always, keep up the great work!
Thanks my dude
Robby Fabbri trade . That was a steal for the red wings
Definitely!
As bad as the Panarin to Columbus trade is made out to be by hockey UA-camrs (the one that is brought up the most as Bowman's worst trade), he was signed to a "bridge" contract meaning that he was going to be trade at some point during the 2 year deal or let walk in FA when it was up. The Danualt trade was much worse in my opinion, being that it was easily avoidable and didn't need to happen at all. I have it tied for Bowman's worst trade (of the ones that the results have shown for both teams) with the trading of Teravainen (this is were looking ahead via salary cap situation and trading Panarin might've been the better option and more justifiable) to get out of Bryan Bickell's contract for a 2016 2nd round pick (Artur Kayumov is playing in the KHL until at least 2022) and a 2017 3rd round pick (was traded) .Will have to wait to see what Montreal does with the picks that they have acquired from the Andrew Shaw back to Chicago trade either way it is another bad trade by Stan Bowman.
I think one of the things that make your videos good is all the footage you show. Feels like a real TSN segment or something. Not just a 15 minute webcam shot.
I think we as the Blues have lost the Faulk trade
Bananas who’d you guys trade for him?
Peyton Patenaude Joel Edmonson
@@bananas1471 yea and we spent big money long term money on him SMH signing him probably spells the end for our captian
Pens fans rake us Caps fans over the coals for the Filip Forsberg trade, but I call their bluff, cause the Pens also made a similar blunder years before we did. Did you know Markus Naslund actually began his career in Pittsburgh, and he used to play on the same line as Super Mario himself? Apparently, Naslund wasn't too happy in Pittsburgh, and that may be why his career started off pretty sluggish, so he was shipped to Vancouver in exchange for Alek Stojanov, who flamed out pretty quickly. I'm guessing this is why a certain bunch of Yinzers are so adamant about the Canucks giving them Elias Pettersson (a fellow Swede like Naslund) as "compensation" for fleecing them. I mean, when a player named Pettersson was traded to them, Yinzers on Twitter were celebrating their "heist of the century", thinking it was Elias when it was actually Marcus Petterson, a defenseman (and no, Elias and Marcus are not related), coming their way.
8:03 lmao jones and dubois are gone now
About the Carter trade: the Position of the picks were known at the time of the trade (8 and 68) as the Draft was only a few days away.
Thanks dude👍 For some reason I always had the idea that the picks were for the next season.
I'm an Islanders fan. My team has made tons of bad trades. I'm pleasantly surprised to not see them on here.
kadri for 2 stiffs sakic didnt want
That Duchene trade was wild from the start. We never were going to contend that year. Ottawa only were winners every two years under Craig Anderson. I would have rather had kept the pick and traded Turris as if we were sellers given that every player we have bought has been a bust since 2009. In addition all smart market teams should be sellers. I hope DeBrincat works out but I'm being realistic given how we have him for 2 years and how are other american sniper we acquired worked out.
Imagine Zegras or Byram on the sens and we had Norris and Stuzle in the pipeline as well. Could have drafted a sniper in 2020.
At the time, I used to think Vancouver was absolutely crazy for trading Cory Schneider to New Jersey...but that turned into Bo Horvat so I’m no longer complaining.
Big yes for live streaming RTH!!!!
Yeah that trade for Ottawa may not of worked out for us but having to trade some of better players we got some good prospects and picks in return, and now we have 2 pick in the top 5 and at least 5 pick through the first two rounds so I think we’ll be ok this is one of the better drafts in a few years
Well, I am a Leafs fan....so how much time you got for this video?
I disagree, the Duchene trade did not backfire at all. Honestly one of the best trades in recent history....For avs fans
He's been great for the Preds too. Most goals in one season in franchise history.
The Cancer Duchene trade still has got the Avs winning that one big time #GoAvsGo #AllHailCale #BoByram #StanleyCup2021
Islanders, if you exclude pretty much every move Mike Milbury made, I would have to say trading 1st and 2nd round picks and Matt Moulson for Thomas Vanek only to dump Vanek later that same year for nothing.
The Smith and Marchessault trade to Vegas was more of throwing Marchessault in as a sweetener to take on Reilly Smith's contract, which freed up $5M in cap.
Thought I would see the Erik Karlsson trade that ended up resulting in Ottawa getting Byfield/Stutzle, Josh Norris (AHL ROTY), Balcers, Chris Tierney, Dylan Demelo (now a 3rd round pick) and a few other assets I might be forgetting. Sharks have a massive Karlsson contract now for 7 more years and a Karlsson that seems to be declining (never know, he might bounce back)
🤔 maybe your right but I'm looking at the sens again being another year of dumpster fires
@@metalheadcol Yeah, but I'm looking at an Erik Karlsson on an 11.5 million dollar contract for 7 more years. Currently sitting at 3 points and a -6. No one expected the Sens to be good this season, I expect them to be at least somewhat competitive next season and grow from that. Another top 5 pick wouldn't hurt them either..
Nice to see the Habs on the winning side of a trade once in a while.
Montreal Habs traded : Ryan McDonagh for Scott Gomez :'( (there were 7 players involved in the trade)
You say bad trades and I immediately think about that Scott Gomez for Ryan McDonagh deal...This one will hurt for a while for sure
It's also crazy to see so many people saying that Marc Bergevin is a terrible GM while he's in involved in the upside of 2 of your top 5 trades that backfired... I hate to call myself a Montreal fan sometimes maaan
Yep I also find that very interesting. Bergevin very polarizing haha. He is either making tremendous trades, or doing things that make you question his sanity.
My Bruins made a bad trade, and not the Thornton, Seguin, or Hamilton trades. I’m talking about the Rick Nash trade, lost Ryan Lindgren for basically nothing
Hey on the bright side. Somehow after trading away multiple superstar for next to no return. You guys are still consistently one of the most dominate teams in the league haha
Rob Talks Hockey very true
Watching this after the Laine - Dubois trade!
Future video?
Yea the Kadri trade
As a Caps fan there is that Erat trade that was just simply stupid because they took 4.5 cap hit dump and Latta and that was worth F.Forsberg somehow.
Tuukka Rask trade is one bad too.
Griffin Reinhart for 1st round pick(Barzal) is awful too.
Hall for Larsson is bad and made even worse as they used that Hall cap hit money for Lucic.
Since that trade Reilly has more playoff goals than the Panthers franchise
That dosnt say anything though because panters are trash
@@Aebexz it's still funny as hell
Danault was drafted in the first round not first overall
Whoops. Good catch. That it was I meant to say lol
Romanov is more likely to become a good top4 dmen then a top pair guy(still good for a second tho).
I think the big one that comes to mind is the Gomez trade for montre it was terrible the day it happened and somehow got even worst as time went on....at least it was following an epic draft by mtl in the first and second round (Mcdonagh, Pacioretty and subban)
Title says 5 NHL trades that backfired badly.
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I think a livestream would be cool.
We made not a strategic but dumb forsberg for erat trade
Haha that one really really hurts
All I have to say is “fleury”...
Mike Schwab Marc Andre fleury da goat
Your graphic on the Golden Knights is misleading. You can't list the picks it took to get Tatar and also include him in the OUT section.
LoL you clearly don't understand the FLA situation, where they protected Petrovic. It was about the rules on positional protection. Which made it very hard to make solid trades for draft picks during that Vegas expansion draft.