@@Bowmans-Woods All I can say is the guys from Neel are schmucks! Missed opportunity. On youtube you guys are synonymous with Cat tours. (and princess seas, double sinks as well as rounded corners) I for one appreciate your videos to keep up with the latest industry offerings. Not to mention that you are introducing these boats to a next generation of buyers. When it comes to these companies, one stands out in my mind and that is Xquisite with the X5. I love that the owner gave you a tour personally and really dedicated quite a bit of time to give every last detail. Keep up the great work with the videos!!
Thanks Herman. Really nice to hear feedback like that. And yes, I'm wearing my Cruising Off duty T-shirt and filming everything with my big gimballed camera and Janice is filming with her gimballed camera and talking about features she sees. If the Salesperson ignores us then we read that they are not interested in being on camera. So we show what we see. Other builders saw us filming and offered to show us things. That is how they get the longer guided tour videos. We had a lot of boats to film in 2 days so we couldn't stand around waiting for an appointment with a Salesperson who didn't mind getting filmed. Next year we will probably only film boats we haven't filmed before. With fewer boats, we will probably have more time for each boat and will ask for tours.
I think it’s a great boat for family. The port and starboard hulls are kids rooms. Forward is a guest room. But yah you missed the engine room and lazarets. The engine room with massive tools storage is a real plus for a guy lol
Yep. No one in the sales team pointed out the entrance door in the floor so we didn't know it was there. Maybe if we look at it again in the future we will film it. Probably not a boat we would consider because, as you can see from the thumbnail photo, it still heels over when it sails so it has the same downside a Mono has. You have to stow everything each time you put up the sails.
This is by far my favorite boat of the multihulls you have reviewed so far. Would not be surprised if this new cruising trimaran concept is adopted by some of the other top catamaran companies. Love the engine room and how it helps center the heaviest weight. Make sure you film it next year when you review the new 47. Can't wait to see it!
For sure. We will be more pushy to get a full tour on camera next year. There was a lot of interested viewers on this boat. We filed it at the end and were tired and did it with no assistance and it showed. Better next year and 47 will be more our size.
Greg, glad you were able to check the Neel. One area you missed was the "man cave" / engine room. There some walk-through that show it and I think you would find it "impressive". Thanks for sharing... 👍👍👍👍👍😊⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵
I hear that we missed that. There was no indication where we could have gotten to that engine room. I guess the door is in the floor of the main salon. No salesperson that saw us filming even said hi to us so no one pointed out that option. I guess we will look for that next year when we look at the 47.
Nice boat. I would expect this Neel tri to be smoother riding & slightly faster than a similar size catamaran, as all the weight is concentrated in centre hull. Be nice to see this sailing at cruising speed. Tx Guys.
Sometimes I get the feeling you guys are not really in the market for a sailing boat? I know you are not looking for speed, which is fine. But what about safety? Easy to handle? Easy to repair? It is more than a "house" right?
Those extra features will be looked into in detail when we narrow down the few boats we will look for on the used market but we are a few years away so it is just window shopping time for now.
So are we. Every time we watch other UA-camrs sailing around the world, I say, "I wish we could go now". Damn pension has me handcuffed. Either stay and work until it vests or find another way to make money until the pension starts paying me in 5 years. Believe me, if we could go now we probably would.
@@Bowmans-Woods But you do look at VERY expensive boats. You would be very comfortable in something for 250k - just not as comfortable as the ones you consider. But thats a choice right?
@@johanwesterberg8744 You have to keep in mind, whatever they are looking at used now, will be a bit older when they are ready to buy. And also keep in mind, this will be their house and boat combined for as long as they choose to travel and live in. You want extra bedrooms for all who visit where ever you are at the time too ;)
The outriggers are called amas,I knew you would like the big tri,it's just to expensive.but that huge engine and mechanical room,is awesome I wish you had shown that,as a cruising couple you will learn to like that big easy to access diesel.
Ya, so I've heard from other comments. No one showed any interest in us or offered to show us anything. Sorry we missed the engine room. We will try and see it next year when the 47 is there.
I have to agree with everyone else. You totally missed the engine room... Tell me where else you can stand up and work on your engine? It seems as if you missed one of the points on these boats that there are 4 staterooms with heads including a Master. You don't find that on any cat this size. I realize you two are looking for yourself and maybe you can use this as future information to see the boat again. I specifically went to the show this year to compare the kneel to the outremer and was quite happy with both.
We went onboard with both of us carrying cameras on gimbals and my camera rig is quite large so I was hard to miss. No one from the boat showed us any interest or tried to answer any questions or even said hi to us. It's not our style to get on a boat demand someone show us around or give us a guided tour. Other boats the people on board saw us with the big gimballed cameras and asked if we wanted to know anything about the boat and then we asked if they would like to give us a tour. That's how we get them. Salespeople have to show interest or we figure they don't care enough for a tour. We are not going to demand anything. Sorry if we missed the engine room in our walkabout.
I don't think there is much better than this for family cruising... great combination of speed, room/confort, usability (the engine bay is simply in a different league compared to cats and the day you have some issue it will be a huge difference) and safety. The 47 maybe even better when it becomes available.
So I hear. Too bad no one saw us filming and pointed out the engine room to us. We would have filmed it. Next time we see it at the show we will know to look for that feature. I hear it is quite something. My only concern (if you look at the thumbnail) is it appears to need to heel over to sail. That means everything has to be stowed so that things don't slide around and break. One reason we want to move to a Cat from a Mono is we hate having to stow everything we own each time we are planning to raise the sails. So, that probably will steer us away from this Tri.
No doubt the mail salon and galley area on a tri is huge. It’s the cabins on the thinner hulls that can be small. Plus it does heel when sailing vs a Cat.
Thank you for doing an episode on the NEEL 51. Can't wait to see your episode on the 47 next year! So far the Lagoon 52 and the NEEL 51 are my favorite multihulls.
Really liked it guys, would of liked to see the engine room and see what you thought, I believe they are very large and great for working in and adding things to etc 👍
Sorry guys, just read all the previous comments, should have read them first. You still did a good job. Don’t be shy next time to get them to give the informed tour. Their loss if not interested but I can’t see them being like that though, if they want to sell boats , I’m sure they will oblige 👍
Thanks Jet. You would be surprised. We were asked by the Bali built boats what we were doing with our cameras and we told them about our channel and that we would put the footage on our UA-cam channel and they told us they were not willing to let us film their boats. That's why you don't see any boats from Bali. So you then realize not everyone wants the exposure. Or they were afraid we wouldn't like it?
One thing I'd point to on that incredible boat is as you descended into the first hull, that very sharp corner(to the left) on that cabinet is a hazard in rough seas with a wine buzz to boot. Falling against that will leave a mark.
Thanks for the walk-through. Everyone shows aspects that are of particular interest to them and it’s good to get a wide variety of impressions. I imagine that it would be great sleeping in the almost silent windward ama as it lifts clear of the water (even in light winds). Also, waking up with that view from the on-deck master cabin window would be a unique experience (and only a few level steps from the morning coffee machine).
You say it's for people who want performance, but I have yet to see one of these go over 10 knots. Either they don't perform that well or there just isn't any video evidence of it. Seen a number of reviews on these trimarans and they're really intriguing. I like the look, although not some of the layout. Just a shame there aren't more blue water performance runs to look at for this boat.
I don't know how the current versions compare, but the family on "sailoceans" channel remodeled one for themselves and they have multiple videos of it running 16-18 knots. They've done at least 2 Atlantic crossings with it so far. Their interior is set up for family life plus charter guests (they live on it full time), and I think their layout is more space-effective and practical than the one you see here.
@@animistchannel2983 - Well, that is encouraging to hear. I'll have to look up that channel. Those are the sorts of speeds everyone has been talking about, but it's been difficult to find any actual video evidence of it. Thanks for sharing that!
Hi. We are thinking in living aboard but we are in south norway. Do you think this boat can (is built to) stand in winter? what are the things you less like about the neel 50. Thanks :)
@@filipesantos8210 yes, get a diesel heater which is an option and also if you dont want to use the batteries with the webasto option available from the shipyard I would recommend to have an old fashioned diesel heater in the salon that doesnt require batteries to operate.
@@filipesantos8210 it's impressively able on bad seas and points to the wind well in gale, in fact more comfortable this way. Make sure you shake it down properly if buying new, it's built in France not Scandinavia......it's quick but it's not carbon so won't perform miracles. In my view it's a good trade off for the money and space.
What about the tender? On cats, it is virrually allways hanging on davits on the stern between the hulls, most natural position by default. But here on a trimaran?
That central storage space under the floor hatch would make this my first choice, although I would suspect this would operate very differently from a catamaran under power around the harbor.
We liked the Leopards a lot more this year. They seemed to have dressed them up a bit more and made them seem more like liveaboards. Feelitrising's snippy comment notwithstanding, if you want to sell your Cats to liveaboards you cant have every surface (including the tables) be hard fibreglass. It just classy and doesn't seem like a home. It feels like a cheap charter cat.
@@Bowmans-Woods I agree with the cheap look of the fiberglass which is why I am more impressed with the Antares, Maverick and Majestic. As for the Leopards, they offer a few features that really set them apart. The narrower hull below the waterline with the wide chines above make it narrow and wide where it counts. That easily accessed fwd cockpit is a biggie with me. For what it's worth department.
Thanks Floyd. We did like the Leopards and they do have a lot of features that you don't see in the other 2 mass production builders (Lagoon and FP). The front seating area is nice!
If you think the 51 is big then you will think the NEEL 65 EVOLUTION is massive. The 51 is 14 tons, the 65 is 49,600 tons. Measurements Overall Length: 65 ft LWL: 63,2 ft Overall Width: 39,50 ft Standard air draught: 88,56 ft Draught: 5,9 ft Half load displacement (CE norms): 49 600 lbs Full battened mainsail: 1 227sq.ft Furling genoa: 1000 sq.ft Self-tacking, furling staysail: 430 sq.ft Genaker (optional): 1,722 sq.ft Water: 263 U.S. gal Fuel: 263 U.S. gal Engine: 1 × Diesel 150 HP / 113 kW Architects: Joubert-Nivelt Interior Design: Franck Darnet Manufacturer: NEEL Trimarans CE certification: ICNN
Interesting design but a lot of sharp corners everywhere. Too many places to hurt yourself. This guy bumped his head with the boat in dock, what would it be like in a rough sea?
Ya. Well maybe next year we can dive deeper into this boat if we get a guided tour. This walkthrough was at the end of a long weekend of filming and no one from the boat showed us any attention. Looking at the thumbnail photo of the boat you do see that when this Tri sails it is actually heeled over. So not sure Janice would like this as much as a Cat that stays pretty flat. We want avoid having to stow everything each time we go sailing, like we do on a Mono.
You know what. After I filmed this and we looked at the photos, I decided I also do not want a Tri because the boat would always be heeled over. Main reason to get a Cat is to not live on a lean.
The point of this design is performance and handling in bigger weather. So maybe a skinner passage is not at all a big tradeoff, again considering just how much faster this boat is than a same sized/weight cat, and also how much better she will cut the waves in larger seas especially.... I am not sure it is fair to just this boat on just how much of house boat it is, compared to a cat, again it seems those things are worth digging into a big more in a review... but again, if you are more a fair weather sailer, than of course yea, likely a cat is going t have the tradeoffs that are important for you...
Late to this video by a couple years but I've noticed on some of your videos (which I really do like seeing and watching your videos) but your shots are not wide, it's like a zoom right in on things and is bit tough to gauge things or perspective. There's also rarely a panoramic shot of an area; lots of glances and peak at things but they're short and close up. It sometimes feels if you don't like it, it's not going to get a full shot and moved on quickly. Like we know Janice loves dolphin seats and this one didn't have them and so we missed seeing the entire front deck, trampolines, anchor and storage. Or the seat in the cockpit and gauges with no look around of the view or true feeling of what it would be like sitting there. Just a food for thought process as perspective watching a lot of your videos, great information and I appreciate all the time you put into going on boats, viewing them, filming them and then the editing. I'll keep watching for sure but just throwing out little things that may help improve the channel, thanks again for the video still.
This tour was an afterthought and Janice shot it with just the vlog camera. It was not our best video effort for sure. We hadn't planned to review this boat. We just had a bit of time at the end of the show so Janice took a quick walk through.
The fit and finish are still a bit sus. I wonder if they have solved their massive delimitation issues........ I think we would need to see their boats cross oceans for a couple of years to prove they will actually go the distance and not fall apart...
Hi Guys! Do you know iff the majestic new hull shape will be on the 530 or is it just the 570? Still about 2 years away but would like to know. Thanks. Happy sailing.
I was told it was on the 530 and I was shown a photo and it looks way more modern than the present hull. I really can't wait for that. Im just worried that the price will go up when they start producing with this new hull. The 530 has the best bang for the buck. The owner of the company told me he they sell the 530 as if it was at fire sale prices. Which implies they know they are underpriced. The new hull may make them re-price because their older style hull may be the reason some potential buyers pass. The new hull will get lots more interest.
Love the boat !! But no engine views or any mechanical info. I'd rather have the large single sink, as you can actually wash a large pot or cookie sheet without getting water everywhere.
Ya, sorry we did a walkthrough and no one pointed out how to get into the engine room. No salesperson even offered to show us anything even though they were just standing there and saw us filming. Other builders would run over to us and ask if we wanted a tour or any questions answered. Not a great effort by their sales team. Next year we are only going to film boats where we get a tour. No more random walkthrough videos from us. We clearly miss things when we just do it ourselves. :-)
Thanks for the response, very sad to here, but not shocked from what I've been reading. Apparently builders need to realize potential buyers are actually researching via UA-camr's like yourself prior to ever going to a show. My husband and I are about 5 years out from selling it all and your channel was like finding pot of gold. Mahalo
It appears to me that trimarans lose one of the most prominent features of a catamaran; that being level passages. All of the under-sail photos and videos I've seen of trimarans show them with a more than 10 degree list. For that reason alone I'd go with a cat.
The reviewer from Yacht World gave it an extremely positive review, especially that center hull mechanical space. Hatch is near the TV. Personally I was not impressed with the master stateroom. Smaller than a 50' cat owners hull. Those AMA cabins are really small and especially do not like wet heads.
@@DE1049 Actually that wasn't a positive review. It was a "nice" review as in being nice to the vendor. Did you notice how loud the engine noise was? The review was damning with faint praise. You can also search here on youtube about build quality issues. Most of the professional review/magazine channels will never give a truly negative review on anything. They don't want to be cut off.
@@terranborn56Here is the underway review. Same gentleman did the moored review. Seems pretty good review if he would seriously consider it for himself. ua-cam.com/video/GGlcmqRF4EI/v-deo.html
Well, the hull in the middle tends to be lower and the side hulls are there more for support so it does (as you see from the photo) heel over a bit. Since the weight is supported by 3 hulls instead of 2 it has a shorter draft and because of that some say a Tri can sail faster. But I would need to test sail a NEEL to say for sure if that is the case.
The Neel was a little too cramped in the hallways for me. I think I talked with you about this one at the boat show. The hallways were so thin in some places I was able to get caught. Especially a forward birth down the lower stairs, I actually got stuck and banged my head. Eh...I wasn't overly impressed with this boat. Also the people showing the boat had absolutely no desire to engage those going on board whatsoever.
Yes. We mention that in the review. The hallways into the outer cabins were very narrow. Not really unexpected on a Tri. The narrow outer hulls is the reason we have never really seriously considered getting a Tri.
6' tall. Perhaps the Camera was lower than my eyes? Not sure what footage you are referring to but its possible you can't see the bows. I'd have to watch the video again to say.
Too bad you blew off the machinery/work space & engine room, one of the main selling points & very impressive features of this vessel. The access is very good & its a huge space, they were letting anyone who asked go down for a look when we toured the boat.
There is a huge tech room where I store all my tools and also the engine is huge. I would recommend covering the engine pulleys with a guard though for working underway
Hm, so many sharp edges, the lack of basic hand-holds through-out, less info on what is running the ship that its interior, which frankly, does not appeal to me. I'm interested in what this boat can handle in a storm on an ocean crossing, where does everything go for example, cushions. What can the rigging take? What's the standing rigging made of? Can you get up the mast in a good blow? All sorts of questions about craft like this, but luxury withstanding, I am not a fan of not having a wheel helm, or the inability to set one up, and because this is a boat show, I'm sure any manufacturer worth their salt would be happy to make this how-you-like anyhow. What I do like is the amount of available space, and the sheer potential, like if a zombie thing happened, or we broke the weather and had to move, but the way is now seems fairly 'fair weather'.
@@Bowmans-Woods No, I actually did not know who y'all were at the time. When I got back I was trying to look up videos of the majestic 530(without flybridge), and your video came up. I watched and was like I think I recognize them from the show. Now I am catching up on your videos.
Also I thought it was weird you didn't get offered a tour. We got on the boat about the same time and was offered a tour twice. Maybe they didn't want to interrupt your filming.
I have no numbers to say how much faster it would be. I just assume. But, perhaps not. The heeling over may be a huge detractor for us. Kind of negates the benefit of being on a cat.
here are the numbers average cruising speed of around 10 knots, over 200 nautical miles are easily achievable each 24 hours. Speeds from 15 to 18 knots are often reached when the breeze freshens.www.neel-trimarans.com/performance/
I assume that is there room for that if you wanted it. It seems not everyone wants a clothes washer, so often it is plumbed for it but the washer may not be included as a standard option. But if there is a dishwasher (even less common) I am sure they have designed a spot for it.
Are you guys an extended sales couple ... this review is bypassing everything what matters at sea ... besides that the interiors are gonna start falling apart in ...say at 3 months at blue waters ..its a sailing boat right ...not a house boat lol ... i mean give me a break hehe ...we need to see where we would be depending on at sea besides neat and clean looking sharp edges ..
This was a quick boat show walk-through, not a detailed test sail. You need to have reasonable expectations of what you can get at a boat show with many boats being filmed. It was one of the boats we had never studied before we walked on. Not our best episode in terms of detail. Probably not a boat we would consider as it still heels when sailing as opposed to a Cat.
I didn't have the stats and it isn't really a boat we are serious about getting. If I was so inclined, I would have researched it more. This was just a walkthrough video.
Neel Trimaran, the boat of my dream for my retirement. But for this kind of money spent, this boat seem to build with Ikea furnitures! to many sharp edges for a moving object. My 2 cents opinion.
Ha Ha. It's a thing for Janice. Although she didn't hate on the boat so clearly it didn't bother her that much. We walked around separately and I was surprised how much she liked it.
I’m sure you could add a better princess seat than come standard on a lot of the other boats. They have left it a good option addition of your choice 👍
Ya. I didn't see one. So I assume you have to mount your own davits after you buy it. Ot pay them extra to have one put on. Clearly it must not come included. That is definitely a strike against it.
Yes. I see that from the sailing photos. Probably not a sailing feature we would want. We love that on a bigger cat you can sail and don't need to stow everything all the time. With this, you might have to, just like a Mono.
@Robert Piccerillo it's a lot better now thanks. The yard is small and new so one has to remember that. I've started posting videos to give you an impression of what life is like. The performance and space is unparalleled. Sure you can get faster but not without the compromise of space. Lots of teething issues which is normal I'm told for all boats really. This past few weeks I'm entirely at anchor and happy enough.
Ya, ours was a quick walkthrough of a boat we have never been on. No salesperson ever pointed out the door in the floor that would get us to that nice storage/engine room, or we would have filmed it.
Bonjour, pourquoi parlez vous si vite, je suis français et j'ai beaucoup de mal à suivre ce que vous dites. D'autres perso,nnes font des videos, et elles parlent bien plus lentement que vous. Bien des français parlent vite, et j'ai du mal à les comprendre également. Vous êtes si préssés d'aller faire autre chose, prenez votre temps, c'est bon pour votre tension, et vous vivrez bien plus vieux. A moins que vous ayez envie de mourir plus tôt. Prenez le temps de réspirer. Merci pour vos vidéos.
@@Bowmans-Woods Sorry this was the only thing I could say about this boat but I sailed in it in Mallorca in 2016 and the owner was very upset about the boat in general. Its got lots of potencial but the shipyard has still lots to learn in terms of building procedures and technics. Luckily if this kind of boat attracts part of the market other shipyards will build more trimarans too.
Hi, interesting to hear. Which hull was it? Was it the one boat that we heard of that had some water come in? I believe it was one with a very heavy dinghy and also some water toys like jetski at the back. It seems there was some issue the shipyard fixed but clearly aggravated by the use which was done of the back of the boat... It's a bit of a pity to add big weights on a boat built to be light and fast. I've met 3 other owners and all 3 were happy (and I am not talking about clients): a French (hull 4) family, a Swiss family and another French family (the one hull which won a transatlantic ARC race, carbon rigging). I have not heard of any other leakage problem. mc
this boat is a pos ( why is it leaning even when moored? ) , everything is out of place, and i do mean everything! imo not a safely built boat, don’t buy this boat unless you want to sink!
Disappointing vid.. Typically you guys do far better at showing and talking pros and cons.. This time were many missed rooms.. I'm not used to her talking the whole time.. Sorry to say she sounded scatter brained in her trying to review this kneel boat.. I watch your vids given when he reviews / speaks he sounds like he understands what is going on in a given boat
And yet in ALL your other videos.. You made sure you gave a well informed video of a particular model.. You guys are Not the only one looking for a boat.. I like Neels at having much of the boat on the main deck..given i can not walk down stairs well at all... The neel has a goodnsize cabin and head on the main deck.. I know they have build issues.. But in seeing how you take the time doing good vids on other models ( including performance cats you guys nearly hate but still do a good informed vid on them.. But since you already pre determined the neel is too expensive and too skinny on outer hulls.. You simply gave a horid fully useless and uninformed video.. Prior to this vid.. You guys did a good job
Wow. That is more than I would have thought. I do notice in the photos of it sailing that it heels over a lot more than a big 50' Cat too. That may not be a selling feature for us, as you are going back to stowing everything like you have to do on a Mono.
But tris are supposed more compfortable than cats. The draft though would be a deal breaker to me. When I decide for a boat, that's not selfrighting, I want it to come with ALL the advantages the concept offers and shallow draft is one essential.
So, any kind of bad weather and you are ..... screwed... Ok... move on. What the heck is up with all these modern Cats/Tris which play make believe you are never going to see waves over 4m? I suppose it is true that 90% of people will never leave the Caribbean or the Med, but honestly.....
Just our first quick walk-through look at a Tri. You may be right. Big waves might be an issue with such a wide boat. Just not sure what to think of these.
I cruised eleven years on a 40' Piver Victress and can't imagine this Neel seeing any of the weather I had to endure, My next will be a Jim Brown Searunner to retire on.
The width is NOT the problem. That helps actually. All counters do not have lips... No protection from the rear for waves crashing over from the rear... @@Bowmans-Woods
I have taken mine through some bad weather and have found it does well so far thanks God. Yes, closing doors and hatches would be basic seamanship. In comparison to myfriend onboard a carbon catana we found my 51 pointed well under the storm Jib to get where we were going and did so higher than the catana. Running free with it when it is veryyyyy bad the autopilot and boat did a sterling effort. I sail this boat singlehanded FYI
Your review is very Poor!There is three hulls and I can only see the main cabin one cabin in one of the put riggers hull.What an unprofessional reviewer you two are!
The mechanical room is a huge highlight of this boat. Full standing room and everything within reach.
Ya, so I've heard from other comments. No one showed any interest in us or offered to show us anything. Sorry we missed the engine room.
@@Bowmans-Woods All I can say is the guys from Neel are schmucks! Missed opportunity. On youtube you guys are synonymous with Cat tours. (and princess seas, double sinks as well as rounded corners) I for one appreciate your videos to keep up with the latest industry offerings. Not to mention that you are introducing these boats to a next generation of buyers.
When it comes to these companies, one stands out in my mind and that is Xquisite with the X5. I love that the owner gave you a tour personally and really dedicated quite a bit of time to give every last detail.
Keep up the great work with the videos!!
Thanks Herman. Really nice to hear feedback like that. And yes, I'm wearing my Cruising Off duty T-shirt and filming everything with my big gimballed camera and Janice is filming with her gimballed camera and talking about features she sees. If the Salesperson ignores us then we read that they are not interested in being on camera. So we show what we see. Other builders saw us filming and offered to show us things. That is how they get the longer guided tour videos. We had a lot of boats to film in 2 days so we couldn't stand around waiting for an appointment with a Salesperson who didn't mind getting filmed. Next year we will probably only film boats we haven't filmed before. With fewer boats, we will probably have more time for each boat and will ask for tours.
Glad to see you guys back. Your videos are great. Janice did a great review. Keep it up yall
@@Bowmans-Woods Shame on NEEL and their customer service! Great job on your video. Informative . Thank you.
I think it’s a great boat for family. The port and starboard hulls are kids rooms. Forward is a guest room. But yah you missed the engine room and lazarets. The engine room with massive tools storage is a real plus for a guy lol
Yep. No one in the sales team pointed out the entrance door in the floor so we didn't know it was there. Maybe if we look at it again in the future we will film it. Probably not a boat we would consider because, as you can see from the thumbnail photo, it still heels over when it sails so it has the same downside a Mono has. You have to stow everything each time you put up the sails.
This is by far my favorite boat of the multihulls you have reviewed so far. Would not be surprised if this new cruising trimaran concept is adopted by some of the other top catamaran companies. Love the engine room and how it helps center the heaviest weight. Make sure you film it next year when you review the new 47. Can't wait to see it!
For sure. We will be more pushy to get a full tour on camera next year. There was a lot of interested viewers on this boat. We filed it at the end and were tired and did it with no assistance and it showed. Better next year and 47 will be more our size.
@@Bowmans-Woods Thanks for your reply and keep up the good work. You two are doing a great job!
Thanks Brown.
Greg, glad you were able to check the Neel. One area you missed was the "man cave" / engine room. There some walk-through that show it and I think you would find it "impressive". Thanks for sharing...
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I hear that we missed that. There was no indication where we could have gotten to that engine room. I guess the door is in the floor of the main salon. No salesperson that saw us filming even said hi to us so no one pointed out that option. I guess we will look for that next year when we look at the 47.
Nice boat. I would expect this Neel tri to be smoother riding & slightly faster than a similar size catamaran, as all the weight is concentrated in centre hull. Be nice to see this sailing at cruising speed. Tx Guys.
You may be right. Only downside may be that this tri heels over when sailing.
Sometimes I get the feeling you guys are not really in the market for a sailing boat? I know you are not looking for speed, which is fine. But what about safety? Easy to handle? Easy to repair? It is more than a "house" right?
Those extra features will be looked into in detail when we narrow down the few boats we will look for on the used market but we are a few years away so it is just window shopping time for now.
@@Bowmans-Woods okey then I forgive you :) Looking forward to that
So are we. Every time we watch other UA-camrs sailing around the world, I say, "I wish we could go now". Damn pension has me handcuffed. Either stay and work until it vests or find another way to make money until the pension starts paying me in 5 years. Believe me, if we could go now we probably would.
@@Bowmans-Woods But you do look at VERY expensive boats. You would be very comfortable in something for 250k - just not as comfortable as the ones you consider. But thats a choice right?
@@johanwesterberg8744 You have to keep in mind, whatever they are looking at used now, will be a bit older when they are ready to buy. And also keep in mind, this will be their house and boat combined for as long as they choose to travel and live in. You want extra bedrooms for all who visit where ever you are at the time too ;)
The outriggers are called amas,I knew you would like the big tri,it's just to expensive.but that huge engine and mechanical room,is awesome I wish you had shown that,as a cruising couple you will learn to like that big easy to access diesel.
Ya, so I've heard from other comments. No one showed any interest in us or offered to show us anything. Sorry we missed the engine room. We will try and see it next year when the 47 is there.
You missed the engine room and the lazarettes in the side hulls.
Was just going to say that. The machinery room is impressive and larger then any multi hull I have seen.
I have to agree with everyone else. You totally missed the engine room... Tell me where else you can stand up and work on your engine? It seems as if you missed one of the points on these boats that there are 4 staterooms with heads including a Master. You don't find that on any cat this size. I realize you two are looking for yourself and maybe you can use this as future information to see the boat again. I specifically went to the show this year to compare the kneel to the outremer and was quite happy with both.
The engine room is amazing. A true garage for working. She would've liked the laundry room too. Missed that.
We went onboard with both of us carrying cameras on gimbals and my camera rig is quite large so I was hard to miss. No one from the boat showed us any interest or tried to answer any questions or even said hi to us. It's not our style to get on a boat demand someone show us around or give us a guided tour. Other boats the people on board saw us with the big gimballed cameras and asked if we wanted to know anything about the boat and then we asked if they would like to give us a tour. That's how we get them. Salespeople have to show interest or we figure they don't care enough for a tour. We are not going to demand anything. Sorry if we missed the engine room in our walkabout.
@@Bowmans-Woods asking isn't a demand. Their style may be to wait to be asked which is what I prefer for a sales person.
I don't think there is much better than this for family cruising... great combination of speed, room/confort, usability (the engine bay is simply in a different league compared to cats and the day you have some issue it will be a huge difference) and safety. The 47 maybe even better when it becomes available.
So I hear. Too bad no one saw us filming and pointed out the engine room to us. We would have filmed it. Next time we see it at the show we will know to look for that feature. I hear it is quite something. My only concern (if you look at the thumbnail) is it appears to need to heel over to sail. That means everything has to be stowed so that things don't slide around and break. One reason we want to move to a Cat from a Mono is we hate having to stow everything we own each time we are planning to raise the sails. So, that probably will steer us away from this Tri.
Very interesting boat !!! Very unique indeed !!!
I'm was visiting the Neel 51 in real-life and it is very very spacious, the living space is 90 m2 and the kitchen is very big
No doubt the mail salon and galley area on a tri is huge. It’s the cabins on the thinner hulls that can be small. Plus it does heel when sailing vs a Cat.
Thank you for doing an episode on the NEEL 51. Can't wait to see your episode on the 47 next year! So far the Lagoon 52 and the NEEL 51 are my favorite multihulls.
It was an interesting boat. I think the 47' will be more to our size. This Salon seemed huge.
Really liked it guys, would of liked to see the engine room and see what you thought, I believe they are very large and great for working in and adding things to etc 👍
Sorry guys, just read all the previous comments, should have read them first. You still did a good job. Don’t be shy next time to get them to give the informed tour. Their loss if not interested but I can’t see them being like that though, if they want to sell boats , I’m sure they will oblige 👍
Thanks Jet. You would be surprised. We were asked by the Bali built boats what we were doing with our cameras and we told them about our channel and that we would put the footage on our UA-cam channel and they told us they were not willing to let us film their boats. That's why you don't see any boats from Bali. So you then realize not everyone wants the exposure. Or they were afraid we wouldn't like it?
One thing I'd point to on that incredible boat is as you descended into the first hull, that very sharp corner(to the left) on that cabinet is a hazard in rough seas with a wine buzz to boot. Falling against that will leave a mark.
Ya. Sharp edges for sure. Not our favorite boat.
An excellent series of video's!
Thanks Brian.
Nice review. Not our style but that's okay. Looking forward to the Leopard Reviews!
Thanks Michael. Leopards are next
I have to say a boat like this appeals to me on many levels, but in the end way too large and expensive for me. Lovely video guys.
Thanks. I agree. Too large for me too. Thats why I would be interested in seeing the 47. Maybe a bit more our size.
Thanks for the walk-through. Everyone shows aspects that are of particular interest to them and it’s good to get a wide variety of impressions. I imagine that it would be great sleeping in the almost silent windward ama as it lifts clear of the water (even in light winds). Also, waking up with that view from the on-deck master cabin window would be a unique experience (and only a few level steps from the morning coffee machine).
Yes. The Master cabin being right there on the main floor would be really nice.
Good job with the real specs,
Thanks.
I'm so interested in a trimaran setup now but I'm very curious about the Neel 65 Evolution.
OK. Not sure if we will see one of those. Plus, that would be huge at 65'. Too big for us.
You say it's for people who want performance, but I have yet to see one of these go over 10 knots. Either they don't perform that well or there just isn't any video evidence of it. Seen a number of reviews on these trimarans and they're really intriguing. I like the look, although not some of the layout. Just a shame there aren't more blue water performance runs to look at for this boat.
It will do over 12 knots with a parasail in a 23 knot wind.
I don't know how the current versions compare, but the family on "sailoceans" channel remodeled one for themselves and they have multiple videos of it running 16-18 knots. They've done at least 2 Atlantic crossings with it so far.
Their interior is set up for family life plus charter guests (they live on it full time), and I think their layout is more space-effective and practical than the one you see here.
@@animistchannel2983 - Well, that is encouraging to hear. I'll have to look up that channel. Those are the sorts of speeds everyone has been talking about, but it's been difficult to find any actual video evidence of it. Thanks for sharing that!
I live aboard one happy to help
Hi. We are thinking in living aboard but we are in south norway. Do you think this boat can (is built to) stand in winter? what are the things you less like about the neel 50. Thanks :)
@@filipesantos8210 yes, get a diesel heater which is an option and also if you dont want to use the batteries with the webasto option available from the shipyard I would recommend to have an old fashioned diesel heater in the salon that doesnt require batteries to operate.
@@carryonsailing thanks
@@filipesantos8210 it's impressively able on bad seas and points to the wind well in gale, in fact more comfortable this way. Make sure you
shake it down properly if buying new, it's built in France not Scandinavia......it's quick but it's not carbon so won't perform miracles. In my view it's a good trade off for the money and space.
Thanks Jim for the info.
What about the tender? On cats, it is virrually allways hanging on davits on the stern between the hulls, most natural position by default. But here on a trimaran?
That central storage space under the floor hatch would make this my first choice, although I would suspect this would operate very differently from a catamaran under power around the harbor.
Ya sorry. No one onboard showed us any interest and there was no obvious entrance to any engine room. Good to know for next time.
I'm thinking about buying one as soon as the Starlink system is running and available to marine transports.
Awesome but the rocking from side to side at anchor would drive me nuts. If they could solve that itnwould be a sale!
Can't wait for the leopard 50 walk-through..
They will hate it because it won't have cushions and won't be able to get passed it.
We liked the Leopards a lot more this year. They seemed to have dressed them up a bit more and made them seem more like liveaboards. Feelitrising's snippy comment notwithstanding, if you want to sell your Cats to liveaboards you cant have every surface (including the tables) be hard fibreglass. It just classy and doesn't seem like a home. It feels like a cheap charter cat.
Cruising Off Duty I've seen a 50 vid where they had teak tables option, except in the bow. Yea, don't like those white fiberglass ones..
@@Bowmans-Woods I agree with the cheap look of the fiberglass which is why I am more impressed with the Antares, Maverick and Majestic. As for the Leopards, they offer a few features that really set them apart. The narrower hull below the waterline with the wide chines above make it narrow and wide where it counts. That easily accessed fwd cockpit is a biggie with me. For what it's worth department.
Thanks Floyd. We did like the Leopards and they do have a lot of features that you don't see in the other 2 mass production builders (Lagoon and FP). The front seating area is nice!
That's what One needs in the catamaran while sailing beautiful islands - a fucking TV.
If you think the 51 is big then you will think the NEEL 65 EVOLUTION is massive. The 51 is 14 tons, the 65 is 49,600 tons.
Measurements
Overall Length: 65 ft
LWL: 63,2 ft
Overall Width: 39,50 ft
Standard air draught: 88,56 ft
Draught: 5,9 ft
Half load displacement (CE norms): 49 600 lbs
Full battened mainsail: 1 227sq.ft
Furling genoa: 1000 sq.ft
Self-tacking, furling staysail: 430 sq.ft
Genaker (optional): 1,722 sq.ft
Water: 263 U.S. gal
Fuel: 263 U.S. gal
Engine: 1 × Diesel 150 HP / 113 kW
Architects: Joubert-Nivelt
Interior Design: Franck Darnet
Manufacturer: NEEL Trimarans
CE certification: ICNN
Ok. Way too big for us then. 😁
Interesting design but a lot of sharp corners everywhere. Too many places to hurt yourself. This guy bumped his head with the boat in dock, what would it be like in a rough sea?
I agree. Lots of sharp edges. We prefer rounded cabinets.
This is the only only episode that I wish you could do a retake, it's a shame you didn't feel 100 comfortable to go a little deeper.
Ya. Well maybe next year we can dive deeper into this boat if we get a guided tour. This walkthrough was at the end of a long weekend of filming and no one from the boat showed us any attention. Looking at the thumbnail photo of the boat you do see that when this Tri sails it is actually heeled over. So not sure Janice would like this as much as a Cat that stays pretty flat. We want avoid having to stow everything each time we go sailing, like we do on a Mono.
Sail Oceans "POLY" is the prototype for the Neel 51
The Neel 45
In fact the 45. I came accross those guys in Le Matin/Martinique last Nov, great boat!
Neel 50 (prototype). They told ( SailOceans) only one made.
Great video, you missed "the basement".
Will you cover the St Francis 50? That is a really nice Catamaran. Seems the Antares is a smaller copy.
Ya, we were not made aware of the basement. Next time. The St Francis was not at the show.
How can I get a brochure of the Neel 51?
The thing I hate about tri's is they're always leaning to one side or the other. They never sit flat.
You know what. After I filmed this and we looked at the photos, I decided I also do not want a Tri because the boat would always be heeled over. Main reason to get a Cat is to not live on a lean.
yes. a tri is really just a monohull with outriggers. cat much more stable.
My pref would be for trimaran motor yacht. But I haven’t seen one yet.
There are motor cats but I am not sure if there are any motor trimarans?
The point of this design is performance and handling in bigger weather. So maybe a skinner passage is not at all a big tradeoff, again considering just how much faster this boat is than a same sized/weight cat, and also how much better she will cut the waves in larger seas especially....
I am not sure it is fair to just this boat on just how much of house boat it is, compared to a cat, again it seems those things are worth digging into a big more in a review... but again, if you are more a fair weather sailer, than of course yea, likely a cat is going t have the tradeoffs that are important for you...
Yep. Speed is the point of this boat.
Late to this video by a couple years but I've noticed on some of your videos (which I really do like seeing and watching your videos) but your shots are not wide, it's like a zoom right in on things and is bit tough to gauge things or perspective. There's also rarely a panoramic shot of an area; lots of glances and peak at things but they're short and close up. It sometimes feels if you don't like it, it's not going to get a full shot and moved on quickly. Like we know Janice loves dolphin seats and this one didn't have them and so we missed seeing the entire front deck, trampolines, anchor and storage. Or the seat in the cockpit and gauges with no look around of the view or true feeling of what it would be like sitting there.
Just a food for thought process as perspective watching a lot of your videos, great information and I appreciate all the time you put into going on boats, viewing them, filming them and then the editing. I'll keep watching for sure but just throwing out little things that may help improve the channel, thanks again for the video still.
This tour was an afterthought and Janice shot it with just the vlog camera. It was not our best video effort for sure. We hadn't planned to review this boat. We just had a bit of time at the end of the show so Janice took a quick walk through.
The trampolines at the front is the seating…
The fit and finish are still a bit sus. I wonder if they have solved their massive delimitation issues........ I think we would need to see their boats cross oceans for a couple of years to prove they will actually go the distance and not fall apart...
Yes. We can't speak to the quality of the hull. This was our first real look and it was a simple walk through at this point.
Hi Guys! Do you know iff the majestic new hull shape will be on the 530 or is it just the 570? Still about 2 years away but would like to know. Thanks. Happy sailing.
I was told it was on the 530 and I was shown a photo and it looks way more modern than the present hull. I really can't wait for that. Im just worried that the price will go up when they start producing with this new hull. The 530 has the best bang for the buck. The owner of the company told me he they sell the 530 as if it was at fire sale prices. Which implies they know they are underpriced. The new hull may make them re-price because their older style hull may be the reason some potential buyers pass. The new hull will get lots more interest.
first prize for most beige boat ever
ha ha
Love the boat !! But no engine views or any mechanical info. I'd rather have the large single sink, as you can actually wash a large pot or cookie sheet without getting water everywhere.
Ya, sorry we did a walkthrough and no one pointed out how to get into the engine room. No salesperson even offered to show us anything even though they were just standing there and saw us filming. Other builders would run over to us and ask if we wanted a tour or any questions answered. Not a great effort by their sales team. Next year we are only going to film boats where we get a tour. No more random walkthrough videos from us. We clearly miss things when we just do it ourselves. :-)
Thanks for the response, very sad to here, but not shocked from what I've been reading. Apparently builders need to realize potential buyers are actually researching via UA-camr's like yourself prior to ever going to a show. My husband and I are about 5 years out from selling it all and your channel was like finding pot of gold. Mahalo
Good interview but you sadly missed the best part...the engine room :
Ya. We've seen it since. Spoiler alert. Its a single engine with lots of room to work around it.
It appears to me that trimarans lose one of the most prominent features of a catamaran; that being level passages. All of the under-sail photos and videos I've seen of trimarans show them with a more than 10 degree list. For that reason alone I'd go with a cat.
We agree completely. It may be faster than a mono but it sails on a lean like a mono. We prefer a cat and its level sailing characteristics.
If you spend half a million dollars on a boat you can spend a few uhndred or even a thousand to add a seat up front.
Yep. Some things can be changed after market. But room inside the hulls for comfort and storage is not one of them.
Other reviews have not been kind to Neel. You guys are too nice. :-)
You may be right. It was a cool Salon and Galley but being heeled over when you sail may not win us over.
The reviewer from Yacht World gave it an extremely positive review, especially that center hull mechanical space. Hatch is near the TV. Personally I was not impressed with the master stateroom. Smaller than a 50' cat owners hull. Those AMA cabins are really small and especially do not like wet heads.
Could you tell who you are talking about. Many of the sailing magazines, have been positive.
@@DE1049 Actually that wasn't a positive review. It was a "nice" review as in being nice to the vendor. Did you notice how loud the engine noise was? The review was damning with faint praise. You can also search here on youtube about build quality issues. Most of the professional review/magazine channels will never give a truly negative review on anything. They don't want to be cut off.
@@terranborn56Here is the underway review. Same gentleman did the moored review. Seems pretty good review if he would seriously consider it for himself. ua-cam.com/video/GGlcmqRF4EI/v-deo.html
What's the difference other than the extra hull between a cat and tri
Well, the hull in the middle tends to be lower and the side hulls are there more for support so it does (as you see from the photo) heel over a bit. Since the weight is supported by 3 hulls instead of 2 it has a shorter draft and because of that some say a Tri can sail faster. But I would need to test sail a NEEL to say for sure if that is the case.
How do you get 360deg view, with the master cabin behind you, dont rate your review
The Neel was a little too cramped in the hallways for me. I think I talked with you about this one at the boat show. The hallways were so thin in some places I was able to get caught. Especially a forward birth down the lower stairs, I actually got stuck and banged my head. Eh...I wasn't overly impressed with this boat. Also the people showing the boat had absolutely no desire to engage those going on board whatsoever.
Yes. We mention that in the review. The hallways into the outer cabins were very narrow. Not really unexpected on a Tri. The narrow outer hulls is the reason we have never really seriously considered getting a Tri.
Are you really short or bending down deliberately? If not, you can't see the bows from the helm station.
6' tall. Perhaps the Camera was lower than my eyes? Not sure what footage you are referring to but its possible you can't see the bows. I'd have to watch the video again to say.
Too bad you blew off the machinery/work space & engine room, one of the main selling points & very impressive features of this vessel. The access is very good & its a huge space, they were letting anyone who asked go down for a look when we toured the boat.
See the previous comments with answers. No one showed us anything on this boat or even said hi to us.
There is a huge tech room where I store all my tools and also the engine is huge. I would recommend covering the engine pulleys with a guard though for working underway
Hm, so many sharp edges, the lack of basic hand-holds through-out, less info on what is running the ship that its interior, which frankly, does not appeal to me. I'm interested in what this boat can handle in a storm on an ocean crossing, where does everything go for example, cushions. What can the rigging take? What's the standing rigging made of? Can you get up the mast in a good blow? All sorts of questions about craft like this, but luxury withstanding, I am not a fan of not having a wheel helm, or the inability to set one up, and because this is a boat show, I'm sure any manufacturer worth their salt would be happy to make this how-you-like anyhow. What I do like is the amount of available space, and the sheer potential, like if a zombie thing happened, or we broke the weather and had to move, but the way is now seems fairly 'fair weather'.
You cant manage the winches/lines while steering, right?
Most modern Cats have all the main lines running to the helm. So you can sail solo.
I made it in the video!
You did? Awesome. Did you say hi?
@@Bowmans-Woods No, I actually did not know who y'all were at the time. When I got back I was trying to look up videos of the majestic 530(without flybridge), and your video came up. I watched and was like I think I recognize them from the show. Now I am catching up on your videos.
Also I thought it was weird you didn't get offered a tour. We got on the boat about the same time and was offered a tour twice. Maybe they didn't want to interrupt your filming.
How much faster is she to a comparable fitted cat?
I noticed she heels too. How stable is she? Up wind and down? How high can she point?
I have no numbers to say how much faster it would be. I just assume. But, perhaps not. The heeling over may be a huge detractor for us. Kind of negates the benefit of being on a cat.
Hi Andrew, they're actually more stable than cats thanks to the floats.
here are the numbers average cruising speed of around 10 knots, over 200 nautical miles are easily achievable each 24 hours. Speeds from 15 to 18 knots are often reached when the breeze freshens.www.neel-trimarans.com/performance/
Why would you want to sit on the bow with sails swinging back and forth?
Unless you are tacking there is no reason for sails to be going back and forth? The dolphins always swim at the bows. What better way to see them?
6 bedroom sailboat the 43 & 47 is plenty for me that is way to big
You and your wife are very beautiful people! the most perfect match.. goodluck with the present and future
Thanks Tsar. Such nice words. All the best to you!
Great to see a dishwasher. Are there laundry provisions?
I assume that is there room for that if you wanted it. It seems not everyone wants a clothes washer, so often it is plumbed for it but the washer may not be included as a standard option. But if there is a dishwasher (even less common) I am sure they have designed a spot for it.
Are you guys an extended sales couple ... this review is bypassing everything what matters at sea ... besides that the interiors are gonna start falling apart in ...say at 3 months at blue waters ..its a sailing boat right ...not a house boat lol ... i mean give me a break hehe ...we need to see where we would be depending on at sea besides neat and clean looking sharp edges ..
This was a quick boat show walk-through, not a detailed test sail. You need to have reasonable expectations of what you can get at a boat show with many boats being filmed. It was one of the boats we had never studied before we walked on. Not our best episode in terms of detail. Probably not a boat we would consider as it still heels when sailing as opposed to a Cat.
mentioning as you did the word ‘performance’, I expected you to talk figures, but no cigar 😩
I didn't have the stats and it isn't really a boat we are serious about getting. If I was so inclined, I would have researched it more. This was just a walkthrough video.
Neel Trimaran, the boat of my dream for my retirement. But for this kind of money spent, this boat seem to build with Ikea furnitures! to many sharp edges for a moving object. My 2 cents opinion.
I hear what you are saying. A lot of the builders have switched to the IKEA cheap looking cabinets.
It appears that they will go with a more marine interior look for the 47.
The BIG problem not engine room, the BIG PROBLEM is nobody speak about, why the trimaran not have princess chair ??????? ;-)
Ha Ha. It's a thing for Janice. Although she didn't hate on the boat so clearly it didn't bother her that much. We walked around separately and I was surprised how much she liked it.
I’m sure you could add a better princess seat than come standard on a lot of the other boats. They have left it a good option addition of your choice 👍
"me" 👋
where's the dinghy? did I miss it?..
Ummm, not sure? I didn't see one either. You probably have to buy that separately.
@@Bowmans-Woods But I dont even see a place to store one, no davits, no deck gear....
Ya. I didn't see one. So I assume you have to mount your own davits after you buy it. Ot pay them extra to have one put on. Clearly it must not come included. That is definitely a strike against it.
@@Bowmans-Woods Ya but, I guess when you have that kinda space and speeds, it doesnt matter...
A million USD ?? My word
Ya. None of these boats are cheap. Probably why we will end up buying ours next boat used.
Trimarans heel over quite a lot don't they - not as much as monohull - but enough not to be as stable as a cat?
Yes. I see that from the sailing photos. Probably not a sailing feature we would want. We love that on a bigger cat you can sail and don't need to stow everything all the time. With this, you might have to, just like a Mono.
@@Bowmans-Woods Have you ever sailed on a Tri ??
No. Never even considered buying a Tri. Just did the walkthrough because some viewers asked for it when they knew we were going back to the show.
my own neel 51 heels about 10 degrees under high performance on a reach
@Robert Piccerillo it's a lot better now thanks. The yard is small and new so one has to remember that. I've started posting videos to give you an impression of what life is like. The performance and space is unparalleled. Sure you can get faster but not without the compromise of space. Lots of teething issues which is normal I'm told for all boats really. This past few weeks I'm entirely at anchor and happy enough.
That guy on the upper deck was definitely doing something embarrassing!!
Neel cuts to many corners and doesn't really construct things with much strength in the joints.
I've heard that from others.
You didn't get to sail it?
That's not a thing at these big boat shows. Unfortunately.
Se desarrollará un nuevo catamarán . quien quiera .participar.es autónomo.
THE DAY IGET ONE IM GONE ( FOR Å WILD )/
I’m sure it would be quick.
"Catamaran Chanel" shows the engien room. But it's not as good vid as this one.
Ya, ours was a quick walkthrough of a boat we have never been on. No salesperson ever pointed out the door in the floor that would get us to that nice storage/engine room, or we would have filmed it.
Bonjour, pourquoi parlez vous si vite, je suis français et j'ai beaucoup de mal à suivre ce que vous dites. D'autres perso,nnes font des videos, et elles parlent bien plus lentement que vous. Bien des français parlent vite, et j'ai du mal à les comprendre également. Vous êtes si préssés d'aller faire autre chose, prenez votre temps, c'est bon pour votre tension, et vous vivrez bien plus vieux. A moins que vous ayez envie de mourir plus tôt. Prenez le temps de réspirer. Merci pour vos vidéos.
NEELs are poor quality built. In no time leaks start showing up and wall kracking up. Not worth it
OK. A few people have made comments like that. Thanks for your input.
@@Bowmans-Woods Sorry this was the only thing I could say about this boat but I sailed in it in Mallorca in 2016 and the owner was very upset about the boat in general. Its got lots of potencial but the shipyard has still lots to learn in terms of building procedures and technics. Luckily if this kind of boat attracts part of the market other shipyards will build more trimarans too.
Thanks for the heads up. Always good to know.
Hi, interesting to hear. Which hull was it? Was it the one boat that we heard of that had some water come in? I believe it was one with a very heavy dinghy and also some water toys like jetski at the back. It seems there was some issue the shipyard fixed but clearly aggravated by the use which was done of the back of the boat... It's a bit of a pity to add big weights on a boat built to be light and fast. I've met 3 other owners and all 3 were happy (and I am not talking about clients): a French (hull 4) family, a Swiss family and another French family (the one hull which won a transatlantic ARC race, carbon rigging). I have not heard of any other leakage problem. mc
Way too much sharp edges.
Ya, I hear that. We like rounded edges too.
this boat is a pos ( why is it leaning even when moored? ) , everything is out of place, and i do mean everything! imo not a safely built boat, don’t buy this boat unless you want to sink!
Meh
Disappointing vid..
Typically you guys do far better at showing and talking pros and cons..
This time were many missed rooms..
I'm not used to her talking the whole time..
Sorry to say she sounded scatter brained in her trying to review this kneel boat..
I watch your vids given when he reviews / speaks he sounds like he understands what is going on in a given boat
It was a quick walkthrough of a boat we were never interested in before. Next year if we film a Neel it will only be if we get a guided tour.
And yet in ALL your other videos.. You made sure you gave a well informed video of a particular model..
You guys are Not the only one looking for a boat..
I like Neels at having much of the boat on the main deck..given i can not walk down stairs well at all...
The neel has a goodnsize cabin and head on the main deck..
I know they have build issues..
But in seeing how you take the time doing good vids on other models
( including performance cats you guys nearly hate but still do a good informed vid on them..
But since you already pre determined the neel is too expensive and too skinny on outer hulls..
You simply gave a horid fully useless and uninformed video..
Prior to this vid..
You guys did a good job
It draws 6ft. 👎
Wow. That is more than I would have thought. I do notice in the photos of it sailing that it heels over a lot more than a big 50' Cat too. That may not be a selling feature for us, as you are going back to stowing everything like you have to do on a Mono.
But tris are supposed more compfortable than cats. The draft though would be a deal breaker to me. When I decide for a boat, that's not selfrighting, I want it to come with ALL the advantages the concept offers and shallow draft is one essential.
4’11” I believe ?
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.sailmagazine.com/.amp/boats/boat-review-neel-51
1.75m vs 1.40 for a Lagoon 50
Tirant d’eau 1.8 m / 5.9′
www.neel-trimarans.com/fr/modele_bateau/neel-51/
So, any kind of bad weather and you are ..... screwed... Ok... move on. What the heck is up with all these modern Cats/Tris which play make believe you are never going to see waves over 4m? I suppose it is true that 90% of people will never leave the Caribbean or the Med, but honestly.....
Just our first quick walk-through look at a Tri. You may be right. Big waves might be an issue with such a wide boat. Just not sure what to think of these.
I cruised eleven years on a 40' Piver Victress and can't imagine this Neel seeing any of the weather I had to endure, My next will be a Jim Brown Searunner to retire on.
The width is NOT the problem. That helps actually. All counters do not have lips... No protection from the rear for waves crashing over from the rear... @@Bowmans-Woods
I hear what you are saying. Big wave from behind and you better have those big sliding doors closed. :-)
I have taken mine through some bad weather and have found it does well so far thanks God. Yes, closing doors and hatches would be basic seamanship. In comparison to myfriend onboard a carbon catana we found my 51 pointed well under the storm Jib to get where we were going and did so higher than the catana. Running free with it when it is veryyyyy bad the autopilot and boat did a sterling effort. I sail this boat singlehanded FYI
Your review is very Poor!There is three hulls and I can only see the main cabin one cabin in one of the put riggers hull.What an unprofessional reviewer you two are!
i know im a little late to the comments but on a trimaran theres 3 sugar scoops shouldn't the middle one be called a raisin scoop? just saying