Why Runways Are Wavy

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  • @FusionAviation
    @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +276

    ★★★ *FACT UPDATES / ANSWERS TO FAQ's* ★★★
    *1) I said in the video "The Russian Antonov"* - The Antonov was not made in Russia, it's Ukranian made by Antonov Design Bureau, a Ukrainian aircraft manufacturing and services company.
    I think I originally heard the title of the plane "Antonov An-124 Ruslan" and heard Russian not Ruslan, and thought it was Russian from that moment on. My mistake.
    *NOTE TO ALL FACT CHECKERS ON MY VIDEOS* : I appreciate the feedback and the enthusiasm with which you like to fact-check informative and educational videos. Please understand that I am new to this format of video. I know I have gotten some facts wrong at this early stage of trying this format, I will try harder for future videos.
    To be clear, I do not know much, if anything, about the airplane industry, and I don't claim to be any kind of expert. What I was trying to do with this video, and others like it, was to answer questions that multiple people asked me in the comments of one of my videos. I have been doing this for over eight years on another channel, and I started this new channel to try going in a new direction.
    So bear with me while I try to improve.

    • @sundragon7703
      @sundragon7703 4 місяці тому +1

      Okay...So after trial & error, one could land a wide body or 4+ engine military transport on a short runway on the flight simulator. Could they take-off on it?

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +1

      @@sundragon7703 A military plane made an emergency landing on a short runway a year or 2 ago, it was on the news, but they were not sure if they were going to be able to take off from it.

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab 4 місяці тому +6

      Your demeanour and your positivity i respect.
      And subscriber number #769 reporting🫡🙂
      Yes, it is a technical thing after the fall of the erstwhile U.S.S.R. else it is okay to call it Russian too.
      Appreciate you keeping it brief yet informative.
      And as a non native English speaker.. i was reasonably happy that I did not have to rewind much or have to keep captions ON for most part.. except technical terms.
      You pace, clarity, diction was easy to understand.. for me at-least. Although I am a bit dumb to figure out the region/part of the world such accent is from.
      It surely is not from North America (U.S.) as it was much more clear.
      It would eventually help to add manual subtitles.
      I and others can help you with them.. if ever you feel like trying to add subtitles in any of the south Asian languages (Hindi Urdu Tamil Telugu Bangla Malayalam and so on).
      Appreciate you taking up a topic which even the regular aviation channels do not really speak of.
      Or maybe they are too focused on what can quickly make money for them and so they create such content.
      You put enough research and editing tine to intersperse the video with relevant clips, animations. THAT in my view was worth looking for in the future too.
      At my age and routine.. i obviously do not have that much leisure time on the internet.. but such content made with sincere efforts and without over the top hyper-animated voice or fake enthusiasm is always appreciated by me at-least.
      Maybe in the years to come you too would look at things more commercially with intro, outgoing, plug-ins and sponsors.
      Will try to be there then too, if i am alive.

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +5

      @@sailaab I have to say reading this comment (and i did read the whole thing) i was confused, it started off with a compliment, then looked to correct me on facts, then looked to sell me subtitle services, then went back to being a normal comment, just commenting on the video. i went through so many emotions, of oh that's nice of him, oh he is just nit picking me, no wait he is selling me services, no wait it's just a long honest comment. such a rollercoaster of emotions.
      I am glad you liked the video, I hope you like what I come up with in the future.

    • @dahawk8574
      @dahawk8574 4 місяці тому +3

      Subscriber #864 checking in.
      I was hoping to hear:
      "Airplanes simply do not need runways to be perfectly flat."
      Congrats on your channel here, and the refreshing attitude you handle corrections with. Almost Seth Meyers level.

  • @DavidFrostbite
    @DavidFrostbite 4 місяці тому +414

    5:55 "This video was not to explain why runways are wavy"
    Sir, the video title is
    *WHY RUNWAYS ARE WAVY*

    • @bpmgaming3351
      @bpmgaming3351 4 місяці тому +28

      My exact thought when he said that. I was like, wtf is the point of the video title then? Clickbait?

    • @wayne-lj4in
      @wayne-lj4in 4 місяці тому +5

      :>) Was a bit odd for him to add. Did fine on the reasons for the most part.

    • @norbertnagy5514
      @norbertnagy5514 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@bpmgaming3351but he did explain it tought so its even more confusing.

    • @gokulsubedi4048
      @gokulsubedi4048 3 місяці тому +3

      As soon as he said that
      I said youtube to not recommend me this channel.
      Pointless video!

    • @nhso789
      @nhso789 3 місяці тому +1

      Completely pointless .. he says its too expensive to make the ground flat thats why runways are wavy, then he says if money is not an issue you can make your runway flat. So whats the point of the video?

  • @PYROMANIZAC
    @PYROMANIZAC 4 місяці тому +669

    FYI Antonov is Ukranian and not Russian! Unfortunately the An-225 Mriya WAS the largest aircraft in the world until it was destroyed in February of 2022 by Russia when they invaded Ukraine

    • @marilson84
      @marilson84 4 місяці тому +123

      This is not correct. The company was originally established in Novosibirsk, Russia then moved to Kiev. His founder was born in Moscow, so very much Russian. The lead engineer for the Mriya programme was Viktor Tolmachev, Russian engineer born in Kursk.

    • @HontasFarmer80
      @HontasFarmer80 4 місяці тому +70

      @@marilson84 So I guess that means Sikorsky helicopters are Russian even though Sikorski is a US company now and has been forever.

    • @The-Cat
      @The-Cat 4 місяці тому +42

      It's Russian engineering my friend....

    • @vector3d23
      @vector3d23 4 місяці тому +34

      ​@@marilson84 That's not right, you're talking about the time of so called ussr, ruzzia is not ussr. The An-124/224 were developed in Kiiv, ukrainian part of ussr.

    • @fordwrc2006
      @fordwrc2006 4 місяці тому

      NATO invaded Ukraine in 2014 with a coup.

  • @caprica_13
    @caprica_13 4 місяці тому +58

    @3:35 as a pilot, i can tell you that "undulations" on the runway don't matter much, the overall slope may affect takeoff and landing distances, but that's all counted for in our calculations. when it comes to "enhanced vision systems" or EVS, this is not something you'd find in any airliner. At least for the time being, this is only in private jets, military and general aviation aircraft, and it's not meant to see undulations on the runway. It's designed for low visibility operations, and in some cases spotting wildlife on the runway when landing in remote areas.

  • @ralfbaechle
    @ralfbaechle 4 місяці тому +72

    The Antonov shown has six engines and a twin rudder so this is a An-225, not an An-124 which has a boring four engines and single rudder. Only one complete An-225 did exist early in 2022 which is when the aircraft was destroyed in the Russian-Ukrainian war. Due to the age of the aircraft you might also call the aircraft Soviet. It was designed and built by the USSR for the Buran space program and was the Soviet equivalent to the US Boeing 747s modified as shuttle carriers.
    Wavy runways can be a bitch when you're a new pilot. They can also be a bitch at night when there is a hump in the middle which for the pilot of a small aircraft can make it impossible to see the end of runway lighting at the far end.

    • @manifestgtr
      @manifestgtr 4 місяці тому +2

      Duuuuude…
      The airport I train/fly out of services AN-124s on a weekly basis and I’m telling you…they’re anything but boring. Those planes are big and cool as hell. Incidentally, I also see 747s (passenger *and* cargo variants), all manner of military refueling jets (whatever the designations are for the military 767s and DC-10s) and even an odd RAF a400 here and there. A few weeks back, I actually departed directly behind an Atlas 747 in my weenie little RV-12 😬. TLDR: The AN-124 is awesome IRL

    • @ralfbaechle
      @ralfbaechle 4 місяці тому +3

      @@manifestgtr Heh, I had a feeling my previous posting had the potential to be missunderstood. What I meant is that four engined stuff is pretty standard and thus boring. Six engined aircraft are rare and these days none of the types I know of (An-225, XB-70) is still flying.
      I started flying a bit too late so I missed the opportunity to see some interesting aircraft such as the SR-71 operating from near my home airfield. Though 747s were being serviced, the more common types of larger aircraft were all types of Citation which were being serviced by the company operating the airport or Hercules some coming from pretty far even outside NATO which came for special conversions. Other fun stuff was when for training purposes the PAPIs were switched to 5.5° so pilots could train approaches to London City without scaring the living daylights out of their passengers. Or once the Frankenhercules with two different types of engines. Three standard ones and for testing purpose the # engine had been replaced with a prototype of the future powerplant of the A400. Did look really odd because its much larger. Or the last airworthy Vulcan bomber XM558 on its first flight after the Vulcan to the Sky restored its airworthyness. With the boss of my flying club in the cockpit. Or the Red Arrows. But sadly no An-124.

    • @manifestgtr
      @manifestgtr 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ralfbaechle
      It’s interesting that the most exciting airports in any given region aren’t always the class b international airports. If there’s a large, class d with an airforce presence…you’re likely gonna see some really sweet stuff there.

    • @andrewday3206
      @andrewday3206 4 місяці тому

      It was sabotage by management that allowed the AN-225 to be stuck Ukraine and purposely destroyed by the Russians.

  • @Nonoatfirst
    @Nonoatfirst 4 місяці тому +115

    Nobody has Ever landed "down the runway" in Courchevel. It's Up to land, Down to take off.

    • @Nonoatfirst
      @Nonoatfirst 4 місяці тому

      @EA-18G_Sky_Eye Yes, the very idea of landing that way is absurd. It's one-wayx traffic only. Even if you wanted to, how on earth would you make the approach?
      ua-cam.com/video/6pK9uqF4y7c/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TufanSevincelEarthrounderFlyingAdventures

    • @des_smith7658
      @des_smith7658 4 місяці тому +9

      Because people have spent all of their money and are lighter

    • @orbitalpotato9940
      @orbitalpotato9940 4 місяці тому +9

      ​​@EA-18G_Sky_Eye would you rather go off the edge of a cliff or into a snowbank in case of an overrun?

    • @Dav5049915
      @Dav5049915 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, outside of a flight simulator I highly doubt this has ever been done in an airplane.

    • @garethanddylanjohn3213
      @garethanddylanjohn3213 Місяць тому +2

      Smallest of planes do. ! I've been there !

  • @walterpleyer261
    @walterpleyer261 4 місяці тому +138

    Talking about short runways: The largest aircraft to land and take off from an aircraft carrier was a C-130 Hercules, and the did it without arrester hook or catapult gear

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 4 місяці тому +2

      your hair is so shiny!

    • @charlie_armstr0ng
      @charlie_armstr0ng 4 місяці тому +2

      is that because of the huge lift natural it gets from the wing area?

    • @martin309
      @martin309 4 місяці тому +3

      @@charlie_armstr0ng That and probably strong winds.

    • @badlandskid
      @badlandskid 4 місяці тому +3

      Did it use Rocket Assisted Take Off?

    • @walterpleyer261
      @walterpleyer261 4 місяці тому

      @@badlandskid Nope:
      ua-cam.com/video/iS3KPu3X7vM/v-deo.html

  • @virtual-atc
    @virtual-atc 4 місяці тому +9

    Runway 33 at Birmingham is just as wavy as runway 15 at Birmingham. In fact, it is the exact same runway.

  • @legitscoper3259
    @legitscoper3259 4 місяці тому +12

    Shortening Kilometers "KLMS" is the most stupid thing I've seen today.
    it's "km"

    • @SabotsLibres
      @SabotsLibres 29 днів тому

      and it is kilo-metres, not kilom eaters!

  • @jgrab1
    @jgrab1 4 місяці тому +19

    "The runways' original construction in 1939 may not have fully anticipated the current volume and weight of current aircraft." Of course not. Who could have imagined an A380 in 1939?

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 4 місяці тому +2

      Jules Verne? 😊
      (Edit: Nooo... probably not; he had been dead for 34 years in 1939! 😮)

  • @CycloneCyd
    @CycloneCyd 4 місяці тому +77

    Err❗ Excuse me❗ The Antonov is Ukranian, NOT Russian. I suppose it could be described as Soviet, but NOT Russian. Given the Russian destruction of that huge Antonov has been in the news several times, that's your 'cred' blown right there❗

    • @uriahstivers8125
      @uriahstivers8125 4 місяці тому +12

      Um actually 🤓

    • @henthust9784
      @henthust9784 4 місяці тому +5

      The Antonov is Soviet. That includes the financing. Take out the Soviet finance and there is no Antonov.
      By the way, the name Antonov is Russian.

    • @dwightk.schrute8696
      @dwightk.schrute8696 4 місяці тому

      @@henthust9784 Soviets survived WW2 only because lend-lease from the USA, take out USA finance there's no USSR. Keep dreaming tankie pidar.

    • @artgreen6915
      @artgreen6915 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@henthust9784 yeah but that particular one has yellow and blue stripes on it. Maybe that's a made up paint scheme? I thought it was a bit crass. The narrator didn't say 'an American Boeing 747' did they? Unnecessary at best.

    • @holesmak
      @holesmak 4 місяці тому

      Antonov neither name or russian. The company is named after the founder who was Soviet citizen and was neither Ukrainian nor russian. Antonov is his surname and it's slavic. From after the fall of USSR the company Antonov is fully Ukrainian, located in Ukraine and operates by Ukrainian workers. By all definition from the fall of the USSR the company and all its planes are Ukrainian ​@@henthust9784

  • @d34dmor0ze2
    @d34dmor0ze2 2 місяці тому +3

    5:30 here is actually easy to notice with a naked eye that the runway IS wavy. Is does not appear flat at all.

  • @PeetSneekes
    @PeetSneekes 4 місяці тому +32

    Not sure where the abbreviation ‘klms’ comes from, but kilometers are commonly abbreviated as ‘km’: kilo, meter. No plural, no bonus ‘l’. 🤷

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +1

      yes my wife and I covered this last night, she is even a teacher and even she thought it had an "s" as a plural, I myself have been using Klms for over 30 years, no one ever said anything before. so it's so engrained in me to write it like that. But we googled it last night and their is no plural and no need for the "s" at least we now know that much, but it just feels and looks weird not to right Klm and just write Km.

    • @PeetSneekes
      @PeetSneekes 4 місяці тому +9

      @@FusionAviation I don’t know what to say. I just know, living in Europe and using the metric system for over 45 years: kilometer is abbreviated as km. Even when pronounced, you skip the plural ‘s’. Check wikipedia, or any metric science book, map, or any sign in Europe.

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +4

      @@PeetSneekes no no I believe you , we googled it after seeing your comment, and were both stunned, that not only I was wrong, but my wife who is a primary school teacher was wrong, she thought it was "Kms"

    • @PeetSneekes
      @PeetSneekes 4 місяці тому

      @@FusionAviation Ah, I understand. 😅

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@FusionAviation The SI unit of length is the metre. 1000 metres is one kilometre (kilo for 1000, abbreviated to [small case] k) abbreviated as km. If more than one kilometre, it is simply the plural when written out, ie kilometres, but units wise, no need for the 's'. It's as easy as that and if your wife is a teacher, sorry but another 'cred' destroying mistake IMO
      Are you from the USA perchance? Would you express two feet as 2fts?

  • @Ozzah
    @Ozzah 4 місяці тому +48

    Is this video AI generated? The script is all over the place. Things getting repeated unnecessarly with subtle differences; the whole things as a weird flow.

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +14

      no I have been writing scripts for 8 years, I thought I did a pretty good job on this one, but I am no professional, I have only ever worked for myself. 3 of my best videos have 32, 30 and 25 millions views each. and that was from 4 years ago, I feel I am much better now. But like I said I am no professional and I have no writing background or experience.

    • @joeythelemur2
      @joeythelemur2 4 місяці тому +15

      @@FusionAviation I think maybe it was the very end, where you mention runway 33 in Birmingham for a second time, and then the video just ends, which is a bit of a strange way to sign off.

    • @BlackTecc
      @BlackTecc Місяць тому +3

      The video could have been just 2 minutes long without all the repetition without losing any information.

  • @kissurscreenimonline
    @kissurscreenimonline 4 місяці тому +99

    Antonov is not russian, it’s Ukrainian plane

    • @SR-71Fan
      @SR-71Fan 4 місяці тому +22

      It's soviet

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +14

      yes you are correct, I see that now, I would could have sworn it was Russian, I did not bother to check that small fact when I wrote the script, as I would have said 100% it was Russian, not sure why, but that is what I thought, so I never bothered fact checking it. Like saying the sky is blue, water is wet, why fact check something you know to be true. Well I was wrong, I will try harder next video.

    • @josue_kay
      @josue_kay 4 місяці тому

      Antonov is American, since Ukraine sold its soul to the said devil in 2014.

    • @CunningQuestion
      @CunningQuestion 4 місяці тому +2

      @@FusionAviationhow would it be to revoice that part of the video to recognise your mistake and avoid negative press ?

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +3

      @@CunningQuestion too late now, will check facts better in the future.

  • @simonbrunner3062
    @simonbrunner3062 4 місяці тому +6

    You had me in the first half, I'm not gonna lie. Last Friday I was flying out of Birmingham for the first and only time in my life, and looking down the runway from my window seat before we lined up for takeoff, I noticed how undulated it was. So I clicked this video when it popped up. And from the first four minutes I learned that what I saw was perfectly normal and maybe I never really paid proper attention to it at other airports. Only for then to have confirmed that Birmingham is indeed that one weird airport with the really wavy runway. 😂

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +2

      am both amazed that camera lens's can shrink a 2+ mile runway down to the visual length of a car driveway + it's not as wavy as you would think when landing and looking down the runway from the cockpit.

    • @martysmith9167
      @martysmith9167 4 місяці тому

      Perspective can be sneaky 😂

  • @frenchcountryball3138
    @frenchcountryball3138 4 місяці тому +29

    bro has a degree in yap

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +13

      I have a Masters in Yap. Just ask my wife :(

    • @Nightskyzz_
      @Nightskyzz_ 4 місяці тому +9

      @@FusionAviationlol, its okay they are just joking.

    • @stephenjones2356
      @stephenjones2356 4 місяці тому

      There's much truth in the jest.

  • @michaelwallace1861
    @michaelwallace1861 4 місяці тому +20

    Not to disagree , but MCO , Orlando International is as flat as a table top.
    Former Stategic Air Command base and it was an emergency landing location for the Space Shuttle

    • @itsskip
      @itsskip 4 місяці тому +3

      I could name off a good couple runways that are pretty flat as well. Then again, where I live everything is flat to begin with.

    • @946towguy2
      @946towguy2 4 місяці тому +7

      It is technically slightly convex because it follows the curvature of the Earth. A 2 mile runway would need to have an elevation about 8.5 inches higher at the 2 ends to be flat.

    • @tyrekegordon2492
      @tyrekegordon2492 4 місяці тому +2

      Honestly a lot of airports in that area are I did my flight training in Kissimmee Fl and I’d be hard pressed to find an airport that wasn’t flat

    • @itsskip
      @itsskip 4 місяці тому

      ​@@tyrekegordon2492 I mean it really does come down to geography.

    • @martysmith9167
      @martysmith9167 4 місяці тому

      Isn't Florida pretty flat itself? 🤔

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 24 дні тому +1

    I explained to a flat-earther a few months ago that the earth is actually concave so they're wrong
    that runway isn't wavy, that's just what relativity does over a 6000 foot distance.

  • @Sonnell
    @Sonnell 4 місяці тому +2

    I think you could have also added that it is not as simple as flattening the runway alone... for planes I am sure you can not have an elevated or lower tarmac than the dirt around it. Planes in emergency want to use the ground around the tarmac.
    So to make a runway flat, you would need to flatten the whole surrounding area as well. This makes the work super expensive.

  • @FusionAviation
    @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +12

    I made this video because of people asking why are runways wavy / undulated on the *"Cleaning Rubber off Runways"* video. Also because so many people want to know why can't you put motors in the wheels to get them spinning up to speed before landing so they don't leave any skid marks. I will be doing that video next.

    • @fixpacifica
      @fixpacifica 4 місяці тому

      Seems like the "Cleaning Rubber off Runways" video had a lot of little factual errors. This one was much better.

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +2

      @@fixpacifica I knew I had made some minor errors on that video, so I tried much harder on this video. I am always trying to improve.

    • @grahamcracker659
      @grahamcracker659 4 місяці тому

      this is scare, cat is sad

    • @ginbei711
      @ginbei711 4 місяці тому

      ​@@FusionAviationMentour Pilot has made a video about "motors in wheels" topic
      Maybe you can use his video as reference when you make a video about it

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 4 місяці тому

      ​@@fixpacifica : Apart from the "Antonov in the room"?

  • @Stormchasing101
    @Stormchasing101 5 днів тому +1

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  • @andrewday3206
    @andrewday3206 4 місяці тому +7

    Landing on a short runway reminds me of a pilot accidentally landing his C-17 landing on Peter O Knight (KTPF). Their runway is about about 1/3 the length of MacDill Air Force Base (KMCF) where they intended to land.

    • @overyourheadtampa
      @overyourheadtampa 4 місяці тому +2

      And take off a few days later. Pilot claimed they thought it was MacDill, fatigue can really mess with interpretation and decision making. Hard to believe they mistook airfields since rwy 5 (rwy 4 at the time of occurrence if im not mistaken) KMCF is 11500 ft long x150 ft wide compared to 3500 ft x 100ft at TPF and this occurred in the daylight with clear skies.

    • @CASA-dy4vs
      @CASA-dy4vs 4 місяці тому

      @@overyourheadtampaI once stayed up for 3 days straight and I couldn’t even interpret what people were saying and I could barely read, fatigue is definitely a killer and if you survive it disorientates real bad

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 4 місяці тому

      The C-17 had to be defueled and all cargo and passengers removed to get it back off the runway. Probably just coincidence the short flight was done at night.

  • @chesterfield5704
    @chesterfield5704 4 місяці тому +3

    brilliant video. subbed

  • @nclsDesign
    @nclsDesign Місяць тому +5

    1:38 A RUSSIAN ANTONOV??? YOU MEAN THE ONE WITH THE UKRANIAN FLAG ON THE SIDE???

  • @СтаниславСорокин-ъ3б
    @СтаниславСорокин-ъ3б 4 місяці тому +17

    1:40 its not russian

    • @ZedNinetySix_
      @ZedNinetySix_ 4 місяці тому +1

      It is Russian.
      Ukraine was Russia until 1991, the AN 225 is from 1985, it *IS* Russian.

    • @СтаниславСорокин-ъ3б
      @СтаниславСорокин-ъ3б 4 місяці тому +8

      @@ZedNinetySix_ Ukraine NEVER was russia lmao, soviet union is not russia, the chief designer of the An-225, Petro Vasilyovich Balabuev, is Ukrainian by nationality. Cry about it Z-kid.

    • @lenajk2004
      @lenajk2004 4 місяці тому +4

      @@ZedNinetySix_ don’t be so confidently incorrect, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, not Russia. It was a separate constituency called the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (UkSSR). Antonov is Ukrainian.

  • @TheByard
    @TheByard 4 місяці тому +7

    I have landed at Birmingham airport several times aboard an Emirate's A380 and each time it was a really hard landing. After seeing the wavy photos I did wonder if the pilot had lined up for a dip but touched down on a high spot.
    Landings at Heathrow and Dubai are a lot softer aboard A380s, so still wondering????
    Having worked in road construction where we graded high spots and filled low ones. With special attention to backfill compaction up against bridge abutments. Soft spots are removed and filled with suitable material from a burrow pit.
    That sadly doesn't happen in Vietnam where I now live, new roads have huge dips either side of the many river and streams bridges along there routes. When traffic has to slow right down to a near stop action is taken to fix them. They are then filled by laying several layers of asphalt with staggered ends cut into the road surface to feather the joints.

    • @deanfowlkes
      @deanfowlkes 28 днів тому

      The hard landings are not likely to be caused by the undulations in the runway. Each airliner generally lands in roughly the same spot regardless of size. Small aircraft have more of an option to land at different spots on the runway.

  • @mach37
    @mach37 3 місяці тому +1

    Runways just LOOK wavy when long telephoto lenses compress two miles of gradual and shallow elevation changes into what looks like just a few hundred feet.

  • @garybpuckett8061
    @garybpuckett8061 4 місяці тому +1

    You might want to cross check between two of your videos. If the patches of runway with the most rubber are also the low stretches of the runway, then the repeated impacts of heavy planes hitting the touch down sweet spots are likely adding some subsurface compaction to the undulation.

  • @claycassin8437
    @claycassin8437 4 місяці тому +2

    Because they're built on planet Earth, maybe?

  • @mitchellminer9597
    @mitchellminer9597 4 місяці тому +1

    If they did try to make a runway perfectly flat and level, it would have to be cut into the terrain or built up or both. Runway excursions would be much more dangerous.
    Making a wide safe area alongside the runway would be very expensive.

  • @alexsaibel134
    @alexsaibel134 4 місяці тому +1

    The Antonov is glitching hard 😂

  • @JarvidVenport
    @JarvidVenport Місяць тому

    Landing a big jet on a short runway is one thing but getting the jet back up in the air is a whole different story

    • @A350DUKK
      @A350DUKK 29 днів тому

      Yeah good luck turning that AN225 around

  • @Awesomes007
    @Awesomes007 4 місяці тому

    My OCD requires that I replace my entire bucket list with one item - find a way to flatten all the extra wavy runways.

  • @dannydaw59
    @dannydaw59 4 місяці тому +2

    That runway at 1:06 looks like the one in the James Bond film where Pierce Brosnan stole the military jet.

  • @DigitalDiabloUK
    @DigitalDiabloUK 4 місяці тому +1

    I love that my local airport, EGBB/BHX Birmingham is used as the first example 😂

    • @suttoncoldfield9318
      @suttoncoldfield9318 4 місяці тому

      Me too (Sutton Coldfield, where you?). I live under the take off route by Pype Hayes Park just as they're banking to head east/south, can usually tell then the daily Emirates A380 is on its way.

  • @Brian_Friesen
    @Brian_Friesen 4 місяці тому +1

    Leveling an undulating isn't as difficult as you make it sound. Good roadway construction crews do it all the time.

  • @markanthony1004
    @markanthony1004 27 днів тому

    I fly about 45 weeks out of the year for work and sometimes I do notice runways look ethier like a slope or kind of wavy and I always assumed it was heat or in cold weather like in Denver or Chicago in the winter that it was just the fact that I don't have my glasses and I can't see well to save my life lol

  • @bipl8989
    @bipl8989 4 місяці тому +1

    Runways do not need to be perfectly flat. Moving dirt from high to low spots costs big money.
    P.S. Perfectly flat runways could easily be made, just costs too much.

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock 4 місяці тому +1

      "easily be made, just costs too much" - Dude, you fundamentally failed economics.

    • @bipl8989
      @bipl8989 4 місяці тому

      @@Anvilshock Sorry. I am a Professional Civil Engineer that did not fail Economics. You only need to get the runways flat enough to meet FAA design specifications. Anything else is a waste of money (according to Economics Rule #1).

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock 4 місяці тому +1

      @@bipl8989 Yes, and I'm the King of China. If something is expensive, it's not easy. It means a lot of costly effort and/or material must be spent to get it done. Fundamentally, "it's easy, but costs too much" is a contradiction. And if you still can't see that, maybe hand in your "Professional Civil Engineer" diploma. I dread to think what infrastructure you professionally civil-engineered with that attitude that I (or anyone else) depends on in their daily life.

    • @bipl8989
      @bipl8989 4 місяці тому

      @@Anvilshock Yes, "easy but costs too much is a contradiction". Engineers spend their day to day finding the optimum solution to such problems. The solution is something you can afford yet still meets your requirements. Surprising you can't deal with such a common "contradiction". Are you still looking for the biggest chocolate bar you can find for $1. Most 2nd graders can handle that.
      Maybe you should stick to gravity powered airplanes. And I hope you can find your perfectly flat runway. There may be one at the salt flats in Utah.

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock 3 місяці тому +1

      @@bipl8989 That just means a lot of engineering was invested _once_ so that the solution is cheap in the long run (while still recovering the engineering investment initially spent). But you weren't talking about the engineering investment. You were talking about the cheap solution. So, yes, "easy but costs too much is a contradiction" still applies. That's what the "too much" in there means. Not considered worthwhile the expense to get the product enhancement or service improvement in return. That's how economics works. Hell, that's how _grammar_ works.
      Seriously, dude, I wouldn't trust you with a lemonade stand with your fundamentally broken grasp of economics.

  • @TheManFrayBentos
    @TheManFrayBentos 24 дні тому

    Congratulations on telling us precisely eff all.

  • @alonzobrickman7418
    @alonzobrickman7418 4 місяці тому +1

    Just curious, was the person who landed the 747 in MS Flight Simulator able to get the plane back up in the air from the same runway?

  • @ChrisCooper312
    @ChrisCooper312 4 місяці тому +1

    Lamding planes on short runways isn't a problem. Planes usually land with plenty of runway to spare, and that's without using maximum braking. There is even a case where a medium sized soviet airliner landed in a field (it was withdrawn and being delivered to it's final resting place). The big problem is taking off. There are cases where planes have landed ot airports with short runways, either due to an emergency or mistake, and getting them moved has been very difficult. In one case they had to empty the plane as much as possible, and put just enough fuel in to get it to the correct airport (which was only a few miles, hence the confusion), just to get it back in the air. Again, most planes will get off the ground with plenty of runway to spare (often around half way), but that extra runway is needed incase of an engine failure, either to stop or to get off the ground.

  • @stargazer2504
    @stargazer2504 2 місяці тому

    Conversely: Dunno if it's the flattest, but the Space Shuttle runway in Florida is no more than 2/10 per 1000 feet. So on it's 15000 foot runway, that's no more than a 3 foot difference the whole length.

  • @richardlangdon1096
    @richardlangdon1096 3 місяці тому

    C130 had several small rocket engines, 4 or 5, on each side. This allowed them to takeoff in such a short distance on the carrier.

  • @kaizersolze
    @kaizersolze 4 місяці тому +1

    There is plenty of flat land -- ever heard of the Great Plains? It's as flat as a table and so are quite a few American cities (Miami, Minneapolis, Vegas, Sacramento, etc.).

    • @danh6720
      @danh6720 3 місяці тому

      Over two miles even "flat" land isn't perfectly flat.

  • @zippydogthemisanthrope483
    @zippydogthemisanthrope483 22 дні тому

    When I think of wavy runways I think of Anderson Air Force base in Guam where if you stand at the end and watch a B-52 start it’s takeoff roll you will lose sight of the tail halfway down the runway.

  • @rustyshackleford48
    @rustyshackleford48 4 місяці тому

    I'll be honest.... I was hoping for an answer that wasn't obvious, and to learn that it was done intentionally.
    But I have actually wondered about wavy runways before, & it's cool to have a definitive answer.

  • @gregoryheim9781
    @gregoryheim9781 4 місяці тому +1

    It's interesting that you have made a lot of speculative guesses as to why Birmingham's runway is undulating. But no answers. Why?

    • @Hummerbird99
      @Hummerbird99 29 днів тому

      Because all those factors contribute.

  • @marianb584
    @marianb584 4 місяці тому +8

    Antonov An-225 Mriya is Ukrainian! Not a bloody ruSSian!

    • @rhino6634
      @rhino6634 4 місяці тому +1

      It’s a Soviet plane

    • @marianb584
      @marianb584 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@rhino6634 It was designed and built in Ukraine and it does NO matter that the country was occupied by ruSSian bastards then. Moreover, even under this circumstance the plane got an authentic Ukrainian name, Mriya (Dream).

  • @Thiago100Zwetsch
    @Thiago100Zwetsch 2 місяці тому

    Great video, nice explanation. Great job. Although, kilometer is km, not kms or klms.

  • @JFBence
    @JFBence 4 місяці тому

    How did you come up with KLMS and MTRS? It's km and m. Nothing fancy

  • @Tina-d8f
    @Tina-d8f 4 місяці тому

    Nice work.

  • @isaaclarson
    @isaaclarson 4 місяці тому

    4:16 I was sitting here for 2/3 of this video, waiting for the reason why we intentionally builds wavy runways. Then I realized.

  • @FakeItalianoII
    @FakeItalianoII 4 місяці тому

    Excellent video ! Tanks !!!

  • @SukhdevSingh-ge5rj
    @SukhdevSingh-ge5rj 2 місяці тому

    😊😊😊😊😊😊 from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾

  • @Lizzardlover988
    @Lizzardlover988 3 дні тому

    “The Idea of this video was not to give a detailed explanation as to why runways are wavy” yet the title of this video is why are runways wavy 😭

  • @jeffreywenger281
    @jeffreywenger281 4 місяці тому +1

    Ok, but railroads built long flat rights of way all the time, although not as wide, generally.

  • @FletchBrendanGood
    @FletchBrendanGood 3 місяці тому

    Sure, that Antonov landed at Courcheval (in the simulator), but it will never leave

  • @sailaab
    @sailaab 4 місяці тому

    1937: oh that stinky pile of garbage is a sight to avoid.
    21st century: yeah, i am here to film this century old airport runway which has seen numerous renovations, maintenance.

  • @PiefacePete46
    @PiefacePete46 4 місяці тому

    I spent more than thirty years looking out my office window at a runway with no waves in it... was there something wrong with it? 😮

  • @JeffBirdOfficial
    @JeffBirdOfficial 28 днів тому

    5:37 the computer just laying slurs on the pilots.

  • @Fusion_AV
    @Fusion_AV 27 днів тому

    Wait, our user are similar
    Also i didn’t knew u existed before putting my user

  • @A92CB7
    @A92CB7 4 місяці тому +1

    Most times ive ever heard "undulation" in my life

    • @virtual-atc
      @virtual-atc 4 місяці тому

      Slope would have been a more appropriate word

  • @Azivegu
    @Azivegu 29 днів тому

    Flattening a runway could lead to environmental damages...
    Sir, you are talking about an airport. The trees are the first to go and they would shoot the birds if given the chance.

  • @Penguin_Aviation_22
    @Penguin_Aviation_22 4 місяці тому +3

    Classic BHX

  • @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
    @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 4 місяці тому

    I was guessing it had to do with expansion in summer, contraction in winter...

  • @MountFPV
    @MountFPV 4 місяці тому

    I have never noticed a runway being wavy. In 1939 they kept records of the first 4 layers of earth? Is America there are plenty of flat places that would suit a runway.

  • @r2jdf
    @r2jdf 4 місяці тому

    That POV at 5:27 raised my cholesterol because it was so buttery.

  • @FusionAviation
    @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому +4

    Also can I get some feedback on this video vs Cleaning Rubber off Runways video. Do you prefer the video with or without background music. I have put a POLL on the community page if you could vote please. www.youtube.com/@FUSIONYTC/community

    • @kg6jay
      @kg6jay 4 місяці тому +1

      Definitely prefer without the background music!

    • @coreybrown3572
      @coreybrown3572 4 місяці тому +1

      No background music.

    • @VermothiaX
      @VermothiaX 4 місяці тому +2

      Put in more substance. Too much repeating of the same information.

    • @fixpacifica
      @fixpacifica 4 місяці тому +1

      I didn't even notice there was background music on one and not on the other. Doesn't matter that much to me, but generally I'd prefer no background music.

    • @TheByard
      @TheByard 4 місяці тому +1

      Haven't watched it yet but I do dislike background music and hate looped music.

  • @BrettAlphonso
    @BrettAlphonso 4 місяці тому

    One wavy uphill downhill runway is at the Yelahanka Airbase at Bangalore.

  • @snowcrest7863
    @snowcrest7863 4 місяці тому

    Telluride, Colorado, U.S.A. 9070 Ft Above Sea Level (2750 Meters) ICAO Identifier is KTEX

  • @nhso789
    @nhso789 3 місяці тому +2

    Title of the video: why runways are wavy.
    5:56 Guy talking in the video: I'm not here to tell you in detail why runways are wavy!!
    Why are you here then? To repeat multiple times that runways take the shape of the ground they're on and its too expensive to make it perfectly flat? You only mentioned this reason btw, for 6 minutes, I didnt get any other benefit from this video other than that. You could have made this a short, or even wrote the answer in the title or the thumbnail .. waste of time

  • @alanjones4622
    @alanjones4622 4 місяці тому

    Manchester Airport runway, well the original one before the second runway was completed, has a noticeable hump in the middle as could be seen on one of my photos taken from the co-pilots seat of a small twin engine plane. Probably this was more noticeable being sat closer to the ground. No doubt not so obvious from the lofty heights of a 747 cockpit. Bembridge Airport on the isle of Wight dips in the middle from either end. One of the pilots landing us there said you had to be careful otherwise the plane starts to lift off slightly half way down the 800 metre runway when you are landing.

  • @Lego_and_avgeekQFA72
    @Lego_and_avgeekQFA72 4 місяці тому

    For next video could you explain what are the roles for poeple in airport cause I’was wondering like what does the guy with red light serve for

  • @airmanfpv964
    @airmanfpv964 4 місяці тому

    What is that airport at 0:40 ?

  • @akizeta
    @akizeta 4 місяці тому

    The Antonov An-225 Mriya _was_ the largest plane in the world. But then the Russians blew it up during the Battle of Hostomel in 2022. There's a spare fuselage in a nearby hanger with other parts that might be combined with parts from the wreck to make another An-225. But Ukrainian industry is busy with other things right now.

  • @GG_Booboo
    @GG_Booboo 4 місяці тому +1

    I actually thought it’s an optical illusion

  • @djvincekline7338
    @djvincekline7338 2 місяці тому

    You could land a big jet on Courchevel, but taking off... Most likely not...

  • @doughy041
    @doughy041 4 місяці тому

    I dont know how old the B roll of all the takeoffs and landings are but RIP FlyBe airlines with both the recent and older liveries and of course the iconic Dash -8 and of course as many have commented BHX and its famous runways.
    Also you could have shown 23R at MAN airport famous for it's uphill start of the runway.

  • @ducksoff7236
    @ducksoff7236 Місяць тому

    "especially when using telephoto lens, compresses the view, exaggerates" So the video should be called "Why cameras make runways look more wavy then they actually are"

  • @krypton13_56
    @krypton13_56 4 місяці тому +1

    Isn't An-225 soviet since it was designed to carry the soviet Buran Space Shuttle?

  • @sixcues
    @sixcues 4 місяці тому

    I watch a lot of Aircraft videos on "Matts Aviation Channel" from Bern Switzerland and Bern's runway appears to be very wavy as well.

  • @Bradleygdyjh02
    @Bradleygdyjh02 4 місяці тому

    TBH my Local airport Has An ETREMELY wavy Runway Which is CBG in cambridge

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech6779 Місяць тому

    You seem to be confusing the terms level and flat in several parts of the video.

  • @SabotsLibres
    @SabotsLibres 29 днів тому

    Runway three-three, not thirty-three... (Of course, 15 is the same runway in the other direction).
    As well as flying, I've driven this runway at high speed a number of times and it never feels as undulating as it appears on telephoto video shots.

  • @jamesau4296
    @jamesau4296 4 місяці тому

    Do airport build on land reclamation like Kansai airport less susceptible to waviness? Cause those airports have done a lot more soil work than counterparts on land did

    • @lyallfurphy
      @lyallfurphy 4 місяці тому

      Might be more as it’s sinking into the ocean

  • @xyyyyx3247
    @xyyyyx3247 4 місяці тому

    What I learnt and was taught at school when I did assignment, do not keep repeating the same information. My teacher would deduct 10% at least from our marks if we did that.

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому

      that may be true, but i have been doing this for 8+ years and I can say with 100% fact, when i mention something once, they don't listen or hear it, so if it's important information, I make sure it gets mentioned twice. Such as the construction date of the runway 1939, I mentioned early in video and at the point of trying to explain why it's wavy. so people understand it's an old runway.

  • @Anvilshock
    @Anvilshock 4 місяці тому

    The hell is a KLMS? Or a MTRS? And why do you spell "Miles" normally capitalized but "FEET" in all caps??

  • @perli216
    @perli216 4 місяці тому +1

    Was this written by a person? Its really weird how some sentences more or less repeat one to one as said before , it sounds really unnatural

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому

      it was written by me, I am still getting the hang of how to write a detailed script. I have been writing youtube videos scripts for over 8 years, but they were much simpler and easier to do when not really adding much detail into it, so I found myself rewriting certain parts again to state another point. I will get better in time.

    • @perli216
      @perli216 4 місяці тому

      @@FusionAviation ok I see, I was playing devils advocate and thinking that either it's generated or it's a trick to increase runtime. Thanks for the reply

    • @nhso789
      @nhso789 3 місяці тому

      If you've been writing for 8 years and still suck like this, I suggest you find a different hobby ... I would have understood if this was your first video, but 8 years and still this horrible, find something else bro and dont waste your time

  • @bernarddelossantos8083
    @bernarddelossantos8083 Місяць тому

    1:45 that flight simulator needs to patch all those glitch. 😆

  • @Rekuzan
    @Rekuzan 4 місяці тому

    Wavy? Ever been to D.I.A.??? The elevation might be a mile above sea level but everything is FLAT!!!!!

  • @aid0nex
    @aid0nex 4 місяці тому +5

    Other comments explain it quite well, why this video is dogshit and I am giving it a dislike. Calling Antonov Russian and saying that „this video was not to explain why runways are waivy” when this is EXACTLY WHAT THE TITLE PROMISED… bro cmon

    • @danh6720
      @danh6720 3 місяці тому

      But he did say why runways are or appear to be wavy. Runways are constructed to follow the natural contours of the land within acceptable limits, and telephoto lenses have the effect of appearing to compress an image making the elevation changes more apparent.

  • @antontsau
    @antontsau 4 місяці тому +1

    Real lads land real 747! Orly. Qantas once landed old written-off 747 in Wollongong (Shellharbour regional YSHL ), where aviation museum HARS based. 1819m runway, no goaround for such a plane as mountains ahead.

  • @singel09
    @singel09 4 місяці тому +2

    Kilometer in skort is KM, not KLM

    • @FusionAviation
      @FusionAviation  4 місяці тому

      weird I have always done Klm

    • @grahamevans7642
      @grahamevans7642 4 місяці тому

      Actually, Kilometer is abbreviated to Km

    • @benhetland576
      @benhetland576 4 місяці тому +4

      @@grahamevans7642 No, not Km, nor KM, nor Klm, and the plural is not KLMS. In SI it's km in both singular and plural. Btw, Km would mean kelvin-meter/re(s) and Klm is kelvin-liter-meter. They are considered symbols, not letters, and case matters (s = second, S = siemens, M = mega-, m = milli-). Apart from that I suppose anyone can call them anything they like and abbreviate any way they see fit as long as they don't claim to refer to the standard SI symbols :-)

  • @vlad0712
    @vlad0712 2 місяці тому

    I'm wondering how can author , who tells us aviation stories doesn't know whos Antonov planes had been built ?

  • @louiscypher4275
    @louiscypher4275 4 місяці тому

    the runway on which the space shuttles land on is flat to 0.2 feet per 1000 feet.

  • @TheAZPro-yi8bu
    @TheAZPro-yi8bu 4 місяці тому +2

    Because they don't have to be flat?

    • @힐만94
      @힐만94 4 місяці тому

      actually, i'm more concern why runway feels like bumpy road when the plane takes off or lands.... 😁

  • @arunk2238
    @arunk2238 4 місяці тому

    Amsterdam seem to have the flattest ever runways

  • @dexjamspacejam
    @dexjamspacejam 15 днів тому

    0:49 that’s,the same as lukla airport and I think saba airport

  • @onetimeontime
    @onetimeontime Місяць тому

    5:39 repeat that 😂😂😂😂

    • @A350DUKK
      @A350DUKK 29 днів тому

      POV what the plane calls me when I landing it at top speed with no flaps at -2000fpm💀