How Practicing With Hymnals Improves Jazz Piano Chords

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @WillsJazzLoft
    @WillsJazzLoft 2 місяці тому +2

    From my years as an engineering student, I'm used to discussions of resonance overtones. So as I listened closely, I could definitely hear what you were doing. I'm not a great reader; so I take time to get through a hymn ( particularly if it's an unfamiliar one ). Yet, I do grasp the significance of what you're pointing out. I actually love practicing hymns since they seem to implicitly lend themselves to reharmonization. However, until I watched this I never considered going the other way around so to speak. Many jazz and gospel piano tutorials do a fine job of stressing the importance of opening up a chord and performing inversions. I think that your video gives more clarity and a new insight to playing chords. Thanks

  • @clares58
    @clares58 2 місяці тому +4

    I never made this connection between hymns and jazz but that must be why I enjoy playing both! Great video.. love your channel!

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому +2

      @@clares58 thank you!

    • @TommyPleasure
      @TommyPleasure 2 місяці тому +2

      I came to this conclusion 13 years ago and then found a church that allowed me to play these hymns. Previously, I was just a jazz pianist but after playing in church and learning these hymns it elevated my playing to a much higher degree!

  • @rebanelson607
    @rebanelson607 2 місяці тому +1

    I taught myself to play piano from a hymn book. I had never realized most of the things you are saying in the lesson. I've been trying to learn jazz for a while because I've always loved the sound of major 7th chords. Thanks for the excellent lesson!

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому

      Thanks! Yes, hymnals are great resources for learning how to smoothly play piano music of all types.

  • @sublibrarian
    @sublibrarian 2 місяці тому

    I really needed this video. Nice tips that my teacher never explained to me. Thank you.

  • @mateo1125
    @mateo1125 2 місяці тому

    Good points. I have played from hymn books all my piano playing life and I always took it for granted that a chord should be evenly distributed. Also, while hymns are often written to be easy to sing, chords in protestant hymn books are often quite complex, a lot of diminished and augmented plus 7, 9, and 11 chords with surprising inversions. Handel, Bach, Mendelsohn, etc. contributed to hymns and that gave competition for the other hymn composers.

  • @internet6695
    @internet6695 2 місяці тому +2

    It is interesting how many great musicians had their beginnings in the church.

  • @mikeragsdale112
    @mikeragsdale112 2 місяці тому +1

    Great advice! Your explanation of how voicing relates to the overtone series is one of the best I’ve seen. BTW, a pretty good jazz pianist named Oscar Peterson has said he practiced playing hymns. (interview with Marian McPartland). Another suggestion would be to practice Bach chorales (which are also a good way to practice sight reading).

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому +1

      @@mikeragsdale112 Thanks! Absolutely with Bach chorales for voice leading, though those are a little more difficult than the average hymn.

    • @WillsJazzLoft
      @WillsJazzLoft 2 місяці тому +2

      I've not been a skilled reader. So, I appreciate your suggestion

    • @TommyPleasure
      @TommyPleasure 2 місяці тому

      Wow, this confirmed what I had always suspected about Oscar he was well versed in just about EVERY facet of music you could imagine! Definitely the greatest jazz pianist that ever lived!

  • @digsjazzalot
    @digsjazzalot 2 місяці тому +2

    Oh man. As a jazz player, am so intimidated by hymns and I’m supposed to play a new one each month at church. I labor over it and sweat and weep and gnash my teeth! This helps!

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому +1

      I never thought about approaching this from reverse, but I'm glad this helps.

    • @digsjazzalot
      @digsjazzalot 2 місяці тому +3

      @@davidlanemusic1 I think I just need to sit down and work through them and not be so anxious about it. I’m fairly good at improvising in a church four part harmony style believe or not so I don’t know why reading it intimidates. Growing up in church that just used lead sheet chord charts (contemporary Christian music) is what I got accustomed to. I’ll figure it out. Thanks again!

  • @prematureoptimism7125
    @prematureoptimism7125 2 місяці тому

    Very informative thx 👍🏽

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 місяці тому +1

    Very helpful video, merci. It's slightly out of my pay grade, but not for long.
    When you're playing like this, shouldn't you emphasize the melody with the right thumb a lot of the time? It seems to me that's another skill to develop, n'est-ce pas?

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому +1

      Not really the right thumb since that would be the middle of your 2-hand voicing, but definitely emphasize the 3-4-5 fingers of the RH. That's more an exercise of weight distribution, and a good idea for a future video.

  • @Notmehimorthem
    @Notmehimorthem 2 місяці тому

    Which Hymnal? Source please.

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому

      I don't think it matters which one. I'm most familiar with various Baptist, Methodist, and Presbyterian hymnals. They're all very similar musically. I used The Celebration Hymnal for the demo.

  • @ugajin7348
    @ugajin7348 2 місяці тому +1

    There's maybe more here than you might think!

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому +1

      No doubt! Like so many videos I've posted, I immediately thought of other things I could have said...in this case about the commonalities of hymnal playing and lead sheet chords.

  • @dkant4511
    @dkant4511 2 місяці тому +2

    What's wrong with the Catholic hymnal just kidding don't get me started 😅 I would recommend the Episcopal 1982 Hymnal ❤

    • @davidlanemusic1
      @davidlanemusic1  2 місяці тому

      @@dkant4511 I have no experience with either hymnal but would love to check them out.

    • @dkant4511
      @dkant4511 2 місяці тому +1

      @@davidlanemusic1 I'm a protestant too but I go where the money is. Don't waste any time with Catholic anything. The Episcopal will open your mind and heart!