When I first heard of the vale revamp sacrificing his skill path mechanic for "better" gameplay, I was fully expecting his skin changes to suck, and oh boy was this skin revamp worse than I expected. They just combined the colors and kept the effects of the cc path, completely ditching the effects of the damage path (the blast effect on his hero skin and the fiery lion effects on his collector for example), and they straight up erased some effects present in both paths as well, like the yinyang pattern of his epic buyable skin. His kannagi skin was also straight up ruined, the pattern on the ground and the flying shikigami papers for his cc ult will be missed.
So true I can't burst any hero with this new vale even in late game. Before he got revamped I can Burst a hero with only using The damage enhanced first skill. I was using this skillet for vale 1st-damage 2nd-cc 3rd-cc. Even with these skillet I can easily burst down a hero
broe been a vale main for almost two years now. In the past, i could always finish off a mage or mm or any squishy heroes in the late game with just first damage and second knockup skill combo but now even with the full three skill combo i could barely scrap any HP off the enemies. He used to be brewing a thunderstorm but now, coughing out some air is the best he could do from today onwards
Bring back old Vale's unique skill mechanics...i don't care if most players choose damage-knockup-burst. As a Vale main, I don't like the revamp honesty, sure some players say it's a buff, but for me it's not. I want the freedom to choose what set of skills and combos I want to use for certain situations and enemy heroes. 😢
@@Unknown-jg4uq he always was a team oriented, just pick mosr of the cc variant. Now they just compromise the damage and cc, sad for burst vale like me
As a Vale Main, for me it’s hard to hit the target. I don’t know, the second skill is kinda distracting. Before, it’s easy to make combo but now, hmm I don’t know I guess I just have to use him continuously to grasp the combo I want to create.
Hey broo the combo is still easy....u know....if u throw 2nd skill's with carelessly....and u using Ult then....the windstrom from ur 2nd skill Will come to center of ur ult with slowly.....and make annoying CC for enemy
@@rapirapi8424 No, compared to the old version those combo are smooth unlike the new ones, aside from it's hard to hit it lacks damage. It looks to me like Vale is support rather than mage.
@@xmjercx yeah you're true but the CC from Vale revamped is more annoying....u know.....is Soo....aahhh.....i till ban Vale from 2 days ago till now....
Glad I wasn't the only one who doesn't like Vale's revamp, like seriously not only did Vale can't one shot enemies anymore but also the skin's skill effect aren't flashy
No wonder it feels weird to use his 2nd skill with epic skin. They made the effect smaller 😭 a nerf of effects but gameplay wise is pretty nice now idk
Skill revamp? Good! Skin effects revamp? 🤡 It almost feel like moonton got tired of producing too much skin effects for just one skin so he decided to revamp vale to make his skins so easy to make.
Let's be honest here, it's not above Moonton to revamp Vale just to simplify his skill effects so they can use less time & budget to produce his skins. Tsk tsk tsk.
everytime i use vale's 2nd skill i feel sad because of how weak it looks due to its size and shape. makes you wonder what was their logic in approving this.
is it just me or the new vale kinda lacking damage? and his 2nd skill hitbox kinda smaller? i had almost zero issue hitting enemy with 2nd skill. but now it's kinda harder? also i can hardly 1 shot squishy with 1 combo :/
Moontoon is notorious for giving downgrades for good skin effects for example, nana's collector skin which was expensive as hell, suddenly there is a noticeable downgrade after the new one showed. Honestly, moontoon is making buyers disappointed if they have to nerf skill effects for new ones especially nerfing collectors. These are collectors for a reason
AS A VALE MAIN WE MUST RALLY TO MOONTOONG THAT THIS REVAMPED IS A BIG NERFED!!!!AND HIS SKILL EFFECTS TOO I HOPE THEY LISTEN TO US HIS BURST NOW IS TO WEAK HE'S KINDA SUPPORT NOW!!!WTF HE'S WEAK AND THEY MAKE HIM WEAKER THAN BEFORE HIS SKILL 2 CAN'T EVEN HELP HIM NOW!!!!
I think they just combined all his skills so they can avoid making 3 versions of skill effects when a new skin is released. Rip to his skins all of them were a downgrade
As a CC ult + Damage 2nd user, I feel so upset about the revamp. It doesn't burst as much as before. I have 4 items already but the damage is just meh. 😭
As a main user of vale and have all the skin,, im totally upset with this revamp,,😢 all the effect skill is minimized and the second skill burn effect is hard to aim to enemy not like before, if it hit enemy it auto burn,,
We should! The fact that they call this a revamp when they just took away the mechanic that makes him unique angers me. No new model, no new voicelines, no re design why even call it a revamp 😞
moonton literally forgot that we got a2zei who always here to compare their inconsistents works @ shitty works. for examples vale skillsset effects.shame on you moonton
As my main, I have all of Vale’s skins. I felt I got cheated. Fck moneytoon! Old vale mechanics is more versatile than the new one. And also I paid much for all those dope skill fx only to be reduced down to sht. Only thing I like about the new vale is the windblow coming back to the Ult field.
Agreed. I like his playstyle why would moonton change it so he'd be easy to use???. That literally just takes away the fun of mastering a hero. Choosing high cc or high damage on his skill set is what made him unique from other mages, now he's just a plain easy to master hero and the skins didn't even do justice... it's bad really bad
HATE how they keep changing characters’ skills to dumb it down for idiots, if the character is too hard for them then that’s their own skill issue not an issue with the character 🤦♂️
When I first heard of the vale revamp sacrificing his skill path mechanic for "better" gameplay, I was fully expecting his skin changes to suck, and oh boy was this skin revamp worse than I expected. They just combined the colors and kept the effects of the cc path, completely ditching the effects of the damage path (the blast effect on his hero skin and the fiery lion effects on his collector for example), and they straight up erased some effects present in both paths as well, like the yinyang pattern of his epic buyable skin. His kannagi skin was also straight up ruined, the pattern on the ground and the flying shikigami papers for his cc ult will be missed.
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That notorious downgrade applied on revamped collector skin... I'm speechless. 😞
I know right😑
That can't be more true
A hahahaha collector Vale more like elite Vale 🤣🤣🤣 rip who have his collector skin
@@Buzz_Burst.2 No, i still love vale collector model on the game although the skill effect downgraded now.
So true I can't burst any hero with this new vale even in late game. Before he got revamped I can Burst a hero with only using The damage enhanced first skill. I was using this skillet for vale 1st-damage 2nd-cc 3rd-cc. Even with these skillet I can easily burst down a hero
Literally no one asked for Vale’s revamp yet they still decided to fk him up.
The fact that most of vale players are now confused on what vale's role is supposed to be on the revamped version is already a big L.
broe been a vale main for almost two years now. In the past, i could always finish off a mage or mm or any squishy heroes in the late game with just first damage and second knockup skill combo but now even with the full three skill combo i could barely scrap any HP off the enemies. He used to be brewing a thunderstorm but now, coughing out some air is the best he could do from today onwards
Bring back old Vale's unique skill mechanics...i don't care if most players choose damage-knockup-burst.
As a Vale main, I don't like the revamp honesty, sure some players say it's a buff, but for me it's not. I want the freedom to choose what set of skills and combos I want to use for certain situations and enemy heroes. 😢
You like it or not , You don't have a choice . They revamped it because they want that hero to be good on teamfight and more easy to use
be already is easy to use and good at team fights @@Grang.
30% revamped
70% downgrade
very much a downgrade 😭
We need to make a petition or a mass report on this matter, I really hate this revamp.
Damn my boy Vale. Skill effects nerfed so hard 😫
Tried this earlier,its hard to burst enemies.mostly he became like a support
He's extremely team fight oriented now, if the enemies are grouping he deals insane dmg but on 1v1... hard to burst
Yeah most of my damage when using vale was when I used dire hit but yeah overall the revamp is kinda okay
You gotta use Gen + Glow wand now
Yesss :( dmg gone
@@Unknown-jg4uq he always was a team oriented, just pick mosr of the cc variant. Now they just compromise the damage and cc, sad for burst vale like me
Give me back the old Vale 😭
As a Vale Main, for me it’s hard to hit the target. I don’t know, the second skill is kinda distracting. Before, it’s easy to make combo but now, hmm I don’t know I guess I just have to use him continuously to grasp the combo I want to create.
Hey broo the combo is still easy....u know....if u throw 2nd skill's with carelessly....and u using Ult then....the windstrom from ur 2nd skill Will come to center of ur ult with slowly.....and make annoying CC for enemy
@@rapirapi8424 No, compared to the old version those combo are smooth unlike the new ones, aside from it's hard to hit it lacks damage. It looks to me like Vale is support rather than mage.
@@xmjercx yeah you're true but the CC from Vale revamped is more annoying....u know.....is Soo....aahhh.....i till ban Vale from 2 days ago till now....
@@rapirapi8424yeah but no damage now use all skills , enemy leaves with just 25% health bar down
This was a major nerf on Vale. Tried him and he felt so weak to use
I only miss the old elite. The effects were new, now is just a recolor
Old one with paper spirits look better for the elite skin
His damage is so bad now 😢
So basically they combined all skill effects into one THEN CALLING IT A REVAMP EVEN THOUGH THEY OBVIOUSLY LIKE LITERALLY NERFED THE EFFECTS MEHHHHH 😢
All they had to do was to let us change his ability types throughout the game and they ruined it.
This is what I also think would be best
Glad I wasn't the only one who doesn't like Vale's revamp, like seriously not only did Vale can't one shot enemies anymore but also the skin's skill effect aren't flashy
Where did the lion go from his burst skills?😢
the collector went📉🤧
They ruined him. Vale skills is unique in its way hut they still go for the revamp because its makes the gameplay more *easy*
No wonder it feels weird to use his 2nd skill with epic skin. They made the effect smaller 😭 a nerf of effects but gameplay wise is pretty nice now idk
What have they done to my kanagi... My heart is breaking right now💔
Look at how they massacred my boi 😭😭
they did the collector skin so dirty what the hell, the buyable epic actually looks good tho
Whoever made this revamp needs to be fired urgently
Rip Kannagi 😂
Skill revamp? Good!
Skin effects revamp? 🤡
It almost feel like moonton got tired of producing too much skin effects for just one skin so he decided to revamp vale to make his skins so easy to make.
They just combined both of the skill colours into one . Ngl , I like that revamp effect but not the size of the tornado , it's small.
Let's be honest here, it's not above Moonton to revamp Vale just to simplify his skill effects so they can use less time & budget to produce his skins. Tsk tsk tsk.
They remove the ying yang symbol in his epic ult skin lol
They should improve the skill effects of the skins because its not flashy even the collector, starlight and hero skin. The epic its look better
everytime i use vale's 2nd skill i feel sad because of how weak it looks due to its size and shape.
makes you wonder what was their logic in approving this.
skill 1 and ultimate vale revamp are a combination of the two previous vale skills
is it just me or the new vale kinda lacking damage? and his 2nd skill hitbox kinda smaller?
i had almost zero issue hitting enemy with 2nd skill. but now it's kinda harder?
also i can hardly 1 shot squishy with 1 combo :/
Yeah ur not the only one. I tried him 2x and I could def feel the huge change they made to him
I still miss old vale 😢
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Meh there always people like you, just ssssstttttuuuuffffffff
They nerf the damage so bad. Hard to burst any hero now
Bruh the collector's effect is a big nerf
Is that a tornado? Soooo cuteeee 😂😂😂
At this point I want my money back for the collector
new 2nd skill is small but overall nice revamp
WHATS NICE ABOUT NERFING AN UNPOPULAR HERO?
WHAT AS A VALE MAIN THIS IS NOT A GOOD REVAMPED THIS IS A BIG NERFED AND TO HIS SKILL EFFECTS TOO
@@arjhay9582 what i mean is the skill effects
@@chyllapla-on6480 im not talking about the revamp skill im talking about the effects it's not bad though unlike the other heroes revamp effects
@@chyllapla-on6480I mean, is his dmg 2nd and cc ult any useful most of the time?
His ultimate is hard to see it's like a low graphic effect
Moontoon is notorious for giving downgrades for good skin effects for example, nana's collector skin which was expensive as hell, suddenly there is a noticeable downgrade after the new one showed. Honestly, moontoon is making buyers disappointed if they have to nerf skill effects for new ones especially nerfing collectors. These are collectors for a reason
He got the Hanabi vibe now, poor skill effects after the revamp
AS A VALE MAIN WE MUST RALLY TO MOONTOONG THAT THIS REVAMPED IS A BIG NERFED!!!!AND HIS SKILL EFFECTS TOO I HOPE THEY LISTEN TO US HIS BURST NOW IS TO WEAK HE'S KINDA SUPPORT NOW!!!WTF HE'S WEAK AND THEY MAKE HIM WEAKER THAN BEFORE HIS SKILL 2 CAN'T EVEN HELP HIM NOW!!!!
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Poor vale....moonton destroyed vale ...he is more support now because of low damage...
0:26 yeh storm is c-
the sound effects gone? wtf!?
Downgrade for all the skins bcs of this stupid revamp
hellooo, can u do Odette revamped virgo skin vs her mermaid skin please?? :D
i hope the Revamp Aurora All skin skill effects comparison is Next. 🥺💕
Epic shop revamped is nice tho.
Whys the hurricane became so small😭😭😭😭 it looked so strong before
the starlight skin has lesser effect than before 🤡
I think they just combined all his skills so they can avoid making 3 versions of skill effects when a new skin is released. Rip to his skins all of them were a downgrade
Okay i m so pissed at his starlight skin change. Why put so much orange in it
they obviously mix the thow
The last Skin The Sign of ☯️ is Missing in Ultimate
I feel bad for them who spend lot of money for his collector
Bruh...revamped effects of vale collector seem like effects of Special skin at most 😖
For me, i think old is better it's very unique to choose what role the dmg or cc
moonton never beating the lazy allegations
Second skill got smaller bruh
Nice combination
that starlight is epic level wtf🤣🤣🤣🤣
No petition to improve the effects of collector vale??
I paid more than 5K Diamonds for his collector skin just to ruin it’s skill effects for this GODDAMN REVAMPED.
The second skill effect why small? why moontoon?
His Hero Skin Ult Got Nerfed , While others got some little improvement
But ALL his skill 2 effect skins got nerfed,badly.
I AGREE
Tbh i actually like (not saying its better) what the revamp did but I do agree skill 2 effect looks so much worse, I prefer all the old ones better
I wish they kept the petals in kannagi skin😢
As a CC ult + Damage 2nd user, I feel so upset about the revamp. It doesn't burst as much as before. I have 4 items already but the damage is just meh. 😭
They did Vale so dirty
As a main user of vale and have all the skin,, im totally upset with this revamp,,😢 all the effect skill is minimized and the second skill burn effect is hard to aim to enemy not like before, if it hit enemy it auto burn,,
My collector skin looks so cheap now😢
everytime moonton do revamp, they always f up somehow. Except zodiac skins
Only the buyable epic got better 😂
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duh the explosion effect was nerf
No it just looks so messy and rushed, the second skill effect was a massive nerf too
I'm disappointed to it especially his second skill, they must optimize it
Downgrade for his collector skins and heroes skins
Need Petition To Bring back Old Vale
No more Blast on hero, Hoping for "Kablast" Word but just Kaboom.
Guys we should protest to montoon to add more details to his skill effects because the skill effects really downgraded 💀
We should! The fact that they call this a revamp when they just took away the mechanic that makes him unique angers me. No new model, no new voicelines, no re design why even call it a revamp 😞
His tornado became fucking small wtf
Old vale better then 😢❤
moonton literally forgot that we got a2zei who always here to compare their inconsistents works @ shitty works. for examples vale skillsset effects.shame on you moonton
Old is gold😢
Is it still possible to change between control or damage? Cause I can't
no, they simplified vale's kit and nerf the damage too?
Vale epic skin😢😢
The revamp is one of the reasons for me to quit the game, rip Vale
He's not yin and yang anymore😢😢
Why does Moonton reduce the effect when Revamping?
To make it even more "simple" for the players I guess.And also to make them gain more money.
Almost all 2nd skill effect is nerfed
I BIG nerfed not only the damage but also in skin effects, Moonton fix my MAIN hero pleaseeee??!!
why couldn’t they let us change like beatrix wtf moonton
As my main, I have all of Vale’s skins. I felt I got cheated. Fck moneytoon!
Old vale mechanics is more versatile than the new one. And also I paid much for all those dope skill fx only to be reduced down to sht. Only thing I like about the new vale is the windblow coming back to the Ult field.
Agreed. I like his playstyle why would moonton change it so he'd be easy to use???. That literally just takes away the fun of mastering a hero. Choosing high cc or high damage on his skill set is what made him unique from other mages, now he's just a plain easy to master hero and the skins didn't even do justice... it's bad really bad
Vale revamp the effect on nerf
Can you add the skin effect and voice over of annual Karrie?
I think they didnt change the effects, you can listen to the voice over ingame tho
Why the 2nd skill revamp effect like a trash 😢
HATE how they keep changing characters’ skills to dumb it down for idiots, if the character is too hard for them then that’s their own skill issue not an issue with the character 🤦♂️
By looking at moontons history, after every revamp effects are okayish but with time they fix them. And it kinda makes sense