So true I can't burst any hero with this new vale even in late game. Before he got revamped I can Burst a hero with only using The damage enhanced first skill. I was using this skillet for vale 1st-damage 2nd-cc 3rd-cc. Even with these skillet I can easily burst down a hero
Bring back old Vale's unique skill mechanics...i don't care if most players choose damage-knockup-burst. As a Vale main, I don't like the revamp honesty, sure some players say it's a buff, but for me it's not. I want the freedom to choose what set of skills and combos I want to use for certain situations and enemy heroes. 😢
When I first heard of the vale revamp sacrificing his skill path mechanic for "better" gameplay, I was fully expecting his skin changes to suck, and oh boy was this skin revamp worse than I expected. They just combined the colors and kept the effects of the cc path, completely ditching the effects of the damage path (the blast effect on his hero skin and the fiery lion effects on his collector for example), and they straight up erased some effects present in both paths as well, like the yinyang pattern of his epic buyable skin. His kannagi skin was also straight up ruined, the pattern on the ground and the flying shikigami papers for his cc ult will be missed.
broe been a vale main for almost two years now. In the past, i could always finish off a mage or mm or any squishy heroes in the late game with just first damage and second knockup skill combo but now even with the full three skill combo i could barely scrap any HP off the enemies. He used to be brewing a thunderstorm but now, coughing out some air is the best he could do from today onwards
As a Vale Main, for me it’s hard to hit the target. I don’t know, the second skill is kinda distracting. Before, it’s easy to make combo but now, hmm I don’t know I guess I just have to use him continuously to grasp the combo I want to create.
Hey broo the combo is still easy....u know....if u throw 2nd skill's with carelessly....and u using Ult then....the windstrom from ur 2nd skill Will come to center of ur ult with slowly.....and make annoying CC for enemy
@@rapirapi8424 No, compared to the old version those combo are smooth unlike the new ones, aside from it's hard to hit it lacks damage. It looks to me like Vale is support rather than mage.
@@xmjercx yeah you're true but the CC from Vale revamped is more annoying....u know.....is Soo....aahhh.....i till ban Vale from 2 days ago till now....
@@Unknown-jg4uq he always was a team oriented, just pick mosr of the cc variant. Now they just compromise the damage and cc, sad for burst vale like me
Skill revamp? Good! Skin effects revamp? 🤡 It almost feel like moonton got tired of producing too much skin effects for just one skin so he decided to revamp vale to make his skins so easy to make.
No wonder it feels weird to use his 2nd skill with epic skin. They made the effect smaller 😭 a nerf of effects but gameplay wise is pretty nice now idk
Glad I wasn't the only one who doesn't like Vale's revamp, like seriously not only did Vale can't one shot enemies anymore but also the skin's skill effect aren't flashy
Let's be honest here, it's not above Moonton to revamp Vale just to simplify his skill effects so they can use less time & budget to produce his skins. Tsk tsk tsk.
is it just me or the new vale kinda lacking damage? and his 2nd skill hitbox kinda smaller? i had almost zero issue hitting enemy with 2nd skill. but now it's kinda harder? also i can hardly 1 shot squishy with 1 combo :/
everytime i use vale's 2nd skill i feel sad because of how weak it looks due to its size and shape. makes you wonder what was their logic in approving this.
AS A VALE MAIN WE MUST RALLY TO MOONTOONG THAT THIS REVAMPED IS A BIG NERFED!!!!AND HIS SKILL EFFECTS TOO I HOPE THEY LISTEN TO US HIS BURST NOW IS TO WEAK HE'S KINDA SUPPORT NOW!!!WTF HE'S WEAK AND THEY MAKE HIM WEAKER THAN BEFORE HIS SKILL 2 CAN'T EVEN HELP HIM NOW!!!!
Moontoon is notorious for giving downgrades for good skin effects for example, nana's collector skin which was expensive as hell, suddenly there is a noticeable downgrade after the new one showed. Honestly, moontoon is making buyers disappointed if they have to nerf skill effects for new ones especially nerfing collectors. These are collectors for a reason
As my main, I have all of Vale’s skins. I felt I got cheated. Fck moneytoon! Old vale mechanics is more versatile than the new one. And also I paid much for all those dope skill fx only to be reduced down to sht. Only thing I like about the new vale is the windblow coming back to the Ult field.
As a CC ult + Damage 2nd user, I feel so upset about the revamp. It doesn't burst as much as before. I have 4 items already but the damage is just meh. 😭
As a main user of vale and have all the skin,, im totally upset with this revamp,,😢 all the effect skill is minimized and the second skill burn effect is hard to aim to enemy not like before, if it hit enemy it auto burn,,
moonton literally forgot that we got a2zei who always here to compare their inconsistents works @ shitty works. for examples vale skillsset effects.shame on you moonton
HATE how they keep changing characters’ skills to dumb it down for idiots, if the character is too hard for them then that’s their own skill issue not an issue with the character 🤦♂️
His second skill is huge disappointment and distracting it's make thin and small, and it's also doesn't give the right effect and effort to change though. I donno but im expecting to justify the skills effect all of his skin ,and i hope they optimize the effect as soon as possible cuz its giving me suck to play with and also his damage was so insanely weak it's wasn't a buff but it's look like a nerf to him. And besides it was so hard for me to ambush and to one skill combo to a particular squishy heroes unlike before that I almost did. Sadly I wasn't expecting the results either.
2nd skill of all skins kinda lacking. the collector skin the cow beast ( orange color) was removed while the Deer creature (blue color) is maintained. Vale Epic skin ultimate doesnt yinyang anymore,
That notorious downgrade applied on revamped collector skin... I'm speechless. 😞
I know right😑
That can't be more true
A hahahaha collector Vale more like elite Vale 🤣🤣🤣 rip who have his collector skin
@@Buzz_Burst.2 No, i still love vale collector model on the game although the skill effect downgraded now.
So true I can't burst any hero with this new vale even in late game. Before he got revamped I can Burst a hero with only using The damage enhanced first skill. I was using this skillet for vale 1st-damage 2nd-cc 3rd-cc. Even with these skillet I can easily burst down a hero
Bring back old Vale's unique skill mechanics...i don't care if most players choose damage-knockup-burst.
As a Vale main, I don't like the revamp honesty, sure some players say it's a buff, but for me it's not. I want the freedom to choose what set of skills and combos I want to use for certain situations and enemy heroes. 😢
You like it or not , You don't have a choice . They revamped it because they want that hero to be good on teamfight and more easy to use
be already is easy to use and good at team fights @@Grang.
When I first heard of the vale revamp sacrificing his skill path mechanic for "better" gameplay, I was fully expecting his skin changes to suck, and oh boy was this skin revamp worse than I expected. They just combined the colors and kept the effects of the cc path, completely ditching the effects of the damage path (the blast effect on his hero skin and the fiery lion effects on his collector for example), and they straight up erased some effects present in both paths as well, like the yinyang pattern of his epic buyable skin. His kannagi skin was also straight up ruined, the pattern on the ground and the flying shikigami papers for his cc ult will be missed.
+1
+1
30% revamped
70% downgrade
very much a downgrade 😭
The fact that most of vale players are now confused on what vale's role is supposed to be on the revamped version is already a big L.
Damn my boy Vale. Skill effects nerfed so hard 😫
Literally no one asked for Vale’s revamp yet they still decided to fk him up.
broe been a vale main for almost two years now. In the past, i could always finish off a mage or mm or any squishy heroes in the late game with just first damage and second knockup skill combo but now even with the full three skill combo i could barely scrap any HP off the enemies. He used to be brewing a thunderstorm but now, coughing out some air is the best he could do from today onwards
As a Vale Main, for me it’s hard to hit the target. I don’t know, the second skill is kinda distracting. Before, it’s easy to make combo but now, hmm I don’t know I guess I just have to use him continuously to grasp the combo I want to create.
Hey broo the combo is still easy....u know....if u throw 2nd skill's with carelessly....and u using Ult then....the windstrom from ur 2nd skill Will come to center of ur ult with slowly.....and make annoying CC for enemy
@@rapirapi8424 No, compared to the old version those combo are smooth unlike the new ones, aside from it's hard to hit it lacks damage. It looks to me like Vale is support rather than mage.
@@xmjercx yeah you're true but the CC from Vale revamped is more annoying....u know.....is Soo....aahhh.....i till ban Vale from 2 days ago till now....
@@rapirapi8424yeah but no damage now use all skills , enemy leaves with just 25% health bar down
Give me back the old Vale 😭
Tried this earlier,its hard to burst enemies.mostly he became like a support
He's extremely team fight oriented now, if the enemies are grouping he deals insane dmg but on 1v1... hard to burst
Yeah most of my damage when using vale was when I used dire hit but yeah overall the revamp is kinda okay
You gotta use Gen + Glow wand now
Yesss :( dmg gone
@@Unknown-jg4uq he always was a team oriented, just pick mosr of the cc variant. Now they just compromise the damage and cc, sad for burst vale like me
We need to make a petition or a mass report on this matter, I really hate this revamp.
This was a major nerf on Vale. Tried him and he felt so weak to use
I only miss the old elite. The effects were new, now is just a recolor
His damage is so bad now 😢
So basically they combined all skill effects into one THEN CALLING IT A REVAMP EVEN THOUGH THEY OBVIOUSLY LIKE LITERALLY NERFED THE EFFECTS MEHHHHH 😢
All they had to do was to let us change his ability types throughout the game and they ruined it.
This is what I also think would be best
Old one with paper spirits look better for the elite skin
Where did the lion go from his burst skills?😢
They ruined him. Vale skills is unique in its way hut they still go for the revamp because its makes the gameplay more *easy*
Skill revamp? Good!
Skin effects revamp? 🤡
It almost feel like moonton got tired of producing too much skin effects for just one skin so he decided to revamp vale to make his skins so easy to make.
They just combined both of the skill colours into one . Ngl , I like that revamp effect but not the size of the tornado , it's small.
No wonder it feels weird to use his 2nd skill with epic skin. They made the effect smaller 😭 a nerf of effects but gameplay wise is pretty nice now idk
Glad I wasn't the only one who doesn't like Vale's revamp, like seriously not only did Vale can't one shot enemies anymore but also the skin's skill effect aren't flashy
What have they done to my kanagi... My heart is breaking right now💔
Let's be honest here, it's not above Moonton to revamp Vale just to simplify his skill effects so they can use less time & budget to produce his skins. Tsk tsk tsk.
they did the collector skin so dirty what the hell, the buyable epic actually looks good tho
Look at how they massacred my boi 😭😭
I still miss old vale 😢
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Meh there always people like you, just ssssstttttuuuuffffffff
is it just me or the new vale kinda lacking damage? and his 2nd skill hitbox kinda smaller?
i had almost zero issue hitting enemy with 2nd skill. but now it's kinda harder?
also i can hardly 1 shot squishy with 1 combo :/
Yeah ur not the only one. I tried him 2x and I could def feel the huge change they made to him
everytime i use vale's 2nd skill i feel sad because of how weak it looks due to its size and shape.
makes you wonder what was their logic in approving this.
Whoever made this revamp needs to be fired urgently
the collector went📉🤧
They should improve the skill effects of the skins because its not flashy even the collector, starlight and hero skin. The epic its look better
new 2nd skill is small but overall nice revamp
WHATS NICE ABOUT NERFING AN UNPOPULAR HERO?
WHAT AS A VALE MAIN THIS IS NOT A GOOD REVAMPED THIS IS A BIG NERFED AND TO HIS SKILL EFFECTS TOO
@@arjhay9582 what i mean is the skill effects
@@chyllapla-on6480 im not talking about the revamp skill im talking about the effects it's not bad though unlike the other heroes revamp effects
@@chyllapla-on6480I mean, is his dmg 2nd and cc ult any useful most of the time?
They nerf the damage so bad. Hard to burst any hero now
Bruh the collector's effect is a big nerf
AS A VALE MAIN WE MUST RALLY TO MOONTOONG THAT THIS REVAMPED IS A BIG NERFED!!!!AND HIS SKILL EFFECTS TOO I HOPE THEY LISTEN TO US HIS BURST NOW IS TO WEAK HE'S KINDA SUPPORT NOW!!!WTF HE'S WEAK AND THEY MAKE HIM WEAKER THAN BEFORE HIS SKILL 2 CAN'T EVEN HELP HIM NOW!!!!
Moontoon is notorious for giving downgrades for good skin effects for example, nana's collector skin which was expensive as hell, suddenly there is a noticeable downgrade after the new one showed. Honestly, moontoon is making buyers disappointed if they have to nerf skill effects for new ones especially nerfing collectors. These are collectors for a reason
At this point I want my money back for the collector
They remove the ying yang symbol in his epic ult skin lol
hellooo, can u do Odette revamped virgo skin vs her mermaid skin please?? :D
Is that a tornado? Soooo cuteeee 😂😂😂
the sound effects gone? wtf!?
the starlight skin has lesser effect than before 🤡
Bruh...revamped effects of vale collector seem like effects of Special skin at most 😖
He got the Hanabi vibe now, poor skill effects after the revamp
skill 1 and ultimate vale revamp are a combination of the two previous vale skills
Downgrade for all the skins bcs of this stupid revamp
0:26 yeh storm is c-
Poor vale....moonton destroyed vale ...he is more support now because of low damage...
Don't forget to review Barat's Ultimate!
i hope the Revamp Aurora All skin skill effects comparison is Next. 🥺💕
Whys the hurricane became so small😭😭😭😭 it looked so strong before
For me, i think old is better it's very unique to choose what role the dmg or cc
As my main, I have all of Vale’s skins. I felt I got cheated. Fck moneytoon!
Old vale mechanics is more versatile than the new one. And also I paid much for all those dope skill fx only to be reduced down to sht. Only thing I like about the new vale is the windblow coming back to the Ult field.
His ultimate is hard to see it's like a low graphic effect
The second skill effect why small? why moontoon?
Second skill got smaller bruh
Okay i m so pissed at his starlight skin change. Why put so much orange in it
they obviously mix the thow
His Hero Skin Ult Got Nerfed , While others got some little improvement
But ALL his skill 2 effect skins got nerfed,badly.
I AGREE
Tbh i actually like (not saying its better) what the revamp did but I do agree skill 2 effect looks so much worse, I prefer all the old ones better
I'm disappointed to it especially his second skill, they must optimize it
As a CC ult + Damage 2nd user, I feel so upset about the revamp. It doesn't burst as much as before. I have 4 items already but the damage is just meh. 😭
moonton never beating the lazy allegations
I feel bad for them who spend lot of money for his collector
Guys we should protest to montoon to add more details to his skill effects because the skill effects really downgraded 💀
Only the buyable epic got better 😂
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duh the explosion effect was nerf
No it just looks so messy and rushed, the second skill effect was a massive nerf too
I paid more than 5K Diamonds for his collector skin just to ruin it’s skill effects for this GODDAMN REVAMPED.
Downgrade for his collector skins and heroes skins
As a main user of vale and have all the skin,, im totally upset with this revamp,,😢 all the effect skill is minimized and the second skill burn effect is hard to aim to enemy not like before, if it hit enemy it auto burn,,
No petition to improve the effects of collector vale??
Rip Kannagi 😂
everytime moonton do revamp, they always f up somehow. Except zodiac skins
User Vale auto bintang 1 di Playstore 😂
His tornado became fucking small wtf
Need Petition To Bring back Old Vale
The last Skin The Sign of ☯️ is Missing in Ultimate
moonton literally forgot that we got a2zei who always here to compare their inconsistents works @ shitty works. for examples vale skillsset effects.shame on you moonton
My collector skin looks so cheap now😢
I wish they kept the petals in kannagi skin😢
why couldn’t they let us change like beatrix wtf moonton
HATE how they keep changing characters’ skills to dumb it down for idiots, if the character is too hard for them then that’s their own skill issue not an issue with the character 🤦♂️
No more Blast on hero, Hoping for "Kablast" Word but just Kaboom.
Why does Moonton reduce the effect when Revamping?
To make it even more "simple" for the players I guess.And also to make them gain more money.
By looking at moontons history, after every revamp effects are okayish but with time they fix them. And it kinda makes sense
His second skill is huge disappointment and distracting it's make thin and small, and it's also doesn't give the right effect and effort to change though. I donno but im expecting to justify the skills effect all of his skin ,and i hope they optimize the effect as soon as possible cuz its giving me suck to play with and also his damage was so insanely weak it's wasn't a buff but it's look like a nerf to him. And besides it was so hard for me to ambush and to one skill combo to a particular squishy heroes unlike before that I almost did. Sadly I wasn't expecting the results either.
The revamp is one of the reasons for me to quit the game, rip Vale
Can you add the skin effect and voice over of annual Karrie?
I think they didnt change the effects, you can listen to the voice over ingame tho
Epic shop revamped is nice tho.
I BIG nerfed not only the damage but also in skin effects, Moonton fix my MAIN hero pleaseeee??!!
Is it still possible to change between control or damage? Cause I can't
no, they simplified vale's kit and nerf the damage too?
Almost all 2nd skill effect is nerfed
Nice combination
They did Vale so dirty
2nd skill of all skins kinda lacking. the collector skin the cow beast ( orange color) was removed while the Deer creature (blue color) is maintained.
Vale Epic skin ultimate doesnt yinyang anymore,
Why the 2nd skill revamp effect like a trash 😢
Downgrade of vale skin effects from variety of 9 to only 3😭
that starlight is epic level wtf🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's not yin and yang anymore😢😢
Why the revamp effect looks so trash and plain???
normal people: moonton revamp vale because he's not on meta
people who know: They are lazy to do skin on vale because it has different effects