Did God Create Time? | Episode 207 | Closer To Truth
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- God and Time are two huge mysteries; relating them probes the nature of God, and perhaps even the existence of a Creator. If God is in Time and experiences its passage, then how could God have created Time? Also Leibniz's famous question: "Why didn't God create the world sooner?" Featuring interviews with Brian Leftow, John Polkinghorne, Ernan McMullin, William Craig, Varadaraja Raman, and Robert Russell.
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One thing I learned from listening to all of these knowledgeable gentlemen..... We don't have a clue.
Love this series. Best channel on UA-cam (subscribed before 100k subs). Love that you guys talk to theologian, physicists, mathematicians, philosophers, etc. Makes the show a joy to watch. Keep up the good work!
Oh wow 300k subs now? I swear a year ago when I subbed it was tiny. I found that so odd given the production quality.
I would like to know if Jesus was a Turner?
You ask all those questions that come in the mind of every pondering soul. I am glad to find this channel.
When we ask questions about time, it feels like the ancient Greeks asking about the sun.
Time, poetically depicted as a relentless thief, scientifically explained as the fourth dimension, and practically seen as a valuable and limited resource, is one of the biggest riddles of the universe. The truth is, our decisions and actions define whether it is our enemy or ally. Taking control of our time means living our own life - not someone else’s - and getting the most out of it.
Slow clapping
sounds like a well being seminar.
Except that objectively speaking, however well you live has absolutely no effect on time. Living well exerts absolutely no control over time whatsoever.
Living well simply means that you exerted very good and wise control over your own body, emotions and choices.
It doesn’t express anything like control of time.
Living well can also be very subjective.
One person living well might easily enslave another as part of their effort to “live well.”
Another person living well could easily shoot you in the head and end your life before you reach say 25.
Even the act of “killing” is objectively and technically not the same as “taking your time away”.
Even though it has that same very effect.
This is because the killer did not in truth control time.
He just controlled his own actions.
Power over time would literally have to be going back into the past or forward into the future.
@@T.image79 you are not speaking objectively, you are giving an opinion.
@@cosmikrelic4815
Ummmm………..no.
repeating facts is not the same as expressing an opinion.
There is something called truth. Objective truth at that.
You not agreeing or accepting a truth does not turn the same truth into an opinion.
It just reveals your inability (it’s usually an unwillingness rather than an inability)to comprehend said truth.
This channel is an INTP's dream. So many interesting conversations, and I don't even have to talk!
Agree.
You say it best when you say nothing at all.
Totally agree, the answers they give and how they elaborate on the answer keeps it very interesting to keep listening.
Me as well BX
Soooo tru I agree
I like this a lot and I feel like there is still a lot more to be discussed in this topic.
Your overcoat in the intro absolutely rocks! Love the content. Thank you.
Wonder if God ever gets tired of being referred to as "he".
God is called father
This is one of the most mind blowing videos on UA-cam. 🤯
This is a masterpiece.
Bravo!👏
This is a real head-scratcher.
Its ez. Time is a consequence of space. Without space there is no time. Time is also relative to the observer. Time is observed only because of cyclical event or motion
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Haha look at pat. So edgy and cool
But our souls are timeless😇🙏
How so. Can you show this?
Hummmm
William Lane Craig is always hilarious.
@@Hhjhfu247
Well you're easily pleased.
Why?
@@Menotyou20245 can't speak for anyone but me but as far as I'm concerned he always seems to simply be making things up. Just positing attributes of his god that he would prefer to be true and he sounds so utterly confident in his statements which are based on not much more than arm chair thinking. Maybe that's what he meant by funny.
I try to take his arguments seriously because they seem to be so pervasive. But he strikes me as a very arrogant individual that enjoys to hear himself talk.
He must keep God entertained!
Robert , your piano is larger than the room in which I live !
But I'm not jealous , what a wonderful show Closer to Truth is !!
You deserve every success !!
In Hindu literture, the trinity gods are shiva(space), vishnu(Time) and Brahma(gravity or illusive hole or the blackhole). Although, all three are required simultaneously for universe to exist, Time exists independent of gravity because time gives birth to gravity and Space exists independent of Time because space gives birth to time.
Space is a combination of consciousness and energy. Pure consciousness is energy held in the core while pure energy is consciousness buried in the core.
I Believe God Is Time And He is neither In time or Outside Of It Just My Belief
You are right. That is what Lord Krishna says in the Gita. He says " Kaalosmi" . It means that I am Time.
So wonderful, really enchanting to an epic degree for me! Thank you so much!
We have never in the history of humanity, had one shred of convincing evidence that shows any gods exist period!
true, but we made up a lot of BS words about it
Do you people hear yourselves?
@@NilsExp After one or two comments on the topic I was snickering a bit thinking about how silly these people are, then after another couple is was getting a bit annoyed seeing how much more ridiculous it sounded, but the end I felt pretty pissed for some reason, that was too much bull in one go for my liking
Time is for us, something like when you are playing quiz you are told your time starts now.
Oh my God, I've got no time for this.
Mans greatest wisdom is as folly to God.
"The Creator of all life loves the human spirit and all the peoples in the world whether they have a religion or not, whether they are wise or foolish, whether they are sinful or virtuous. It just changes the amount of work that must be done to redeem them in time. But to God time is nothing and to you time is everything, as it should be, as it is."
From "The Origin" by Marshall Vian Summers.
By the way, the entire text is available online for free, just google it. :) It's something.
That helps not one iota
Does that mean that God loves Hitler, jimmy Savile, serial killers, Satan and all past evil people who made hundreds & sometimes millions of innocent people suffer ??
@@SIEACharity I recommend to take a curious look at the original text, "Origin". It's easier to get the big picture behind that quote. I think its message is very important to consider.
@@SIEACharity Yes. All of us are forgiven, no matter what. God's plan is to save everyone.
There are in my thinking no limits or constraints as pertain to God. Every thought that we could have concerning God already exists.
That is relativistically speaking we have limitations and constraints and those combine to make the fabric of our understanding.
Would those limitations of understanding result in man's need for a God to provide the best possible explanation for that which we do not understand ?
To which man-made God are you referring?
Yeah, were still waiting for one schred of proof.
God the Creator. There is a very popular book that might help you understand Him better, then everything will make more sense I promise. He was the one who created man, became a man, and will save man. I'm surprised you've never heard of Him?
@@morbidmanmusic don't hold your breath. He hid himself from man and therefore you will never find proof unless through faith. It is such a beautiful thing. It's all explained very clearly (to those who can understand)
@@jap274 must be tons of people not "getting saved" cause they have no natural connection to the religion throughout their life. Seams like a fair concept
@@DaP84 that's up to Him, so I don't care to speak on His behalf. All I know if you obviously deny Him, and that is your choice, though it might be one that you regret. You don't have much excuse, but again, I know not His will and really only worry about my own salvation, so I'll leave it at that.
You are a hero man! That last line:
" if I push God and time, I see a shadow of the invite. The pulsation of reality."
As a spiritual minded person who as diverted away from academic Psychology. And who is now thriving on his heart, spirituality, coming closer to reality. I wanna say this: "you sparked me with these conversations big time! Love science and spirituality coming together
One very important point or aspect, about this video that was surely missed out on is: If God didn't actually create time, because of the famous causation theory, did time created God instead? It's just another way of looking at it. Thank you Johnny, Montréal, Canada
The very idea of creating time is nonsensical because to create is a temporal action.
To create time it would mean that time existed before it was created.
It's absurd
What if god is time?.
@@PranavTheGreat1 scripture does not say god is time
@@gustavmahler1466But doesn't scripture say that God is everything? Everything is within God. God is the "alpha and the omega", so wouldn't time, space, and everything just be contained within God?
@@PranavTheGreat1It is so. God has said so. In the Gita Lord Krishna has said that " Kaalosmi". It means that I am Time.
A being who is truly immortal doesn’t feel time because there is no end point to get to, we are aware because we know there is an end rushing to meet us, so we created time to measure our short existence.
Yeah interesting thought.
Those who dwell on past perfection are the ones that don't want to accept responsibility for their own perfection
I think on a certain level time disappears, for the foundation of cause is already in the effect and Vice versa . But if we’re going to go down that rabbit hole, suppose time is God ? Then When we experience time, we are experiencing God
if you are going down that route then god can be defined to be anything you like.
God is not time, rather God encompasses time. Time is a Creation, or a phenomenon observed because of motion in space.
@@kledmohd4230 and you know this how?
@@cosmikrelic4815 things i read earlier and made more sense.
What you mean by "the foundation of cause is already in the effect"?
"Time is an illusion, lunch time doubly so" - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
So you getting old and die is also an illusion!?
Sigh!
Everything occurring in time is attached to the element of time, hence, all our activities whether good or bad has to do with time; therefore, if time is an illusion then this interview and all life's activities amount to an illusion alos!
I love the intro for this show - very goosebumps-inducing
No you are wrong they there is a god
No, _you_ are wrong! There is a dog!
"That men may not be the dreams of Gods, but rather that the Gods are the dreams of men" -Rig Ved
We know that Einstein taught us relativity is a thing.. We know that the velocity of mass can change the speed that time flows relative to that mass...
If anything could travel at the speed of light, time would stand still for that object... Yet if you were on that object, relativity states that you would see everything around you travelling at the speed of light while you remained stationary, meaning that everything else experienced zero time and not you. If this is the case.. Then, objectively speaking.. Time does not exist at all
However, we know that nothing travels at the speed of light (apart from photons duh) so even if everything in the universe reached a high percentage of lightspeed, time would still trickle by... But..
That still leaves us with the paradox that relativity creates in the first place.
The twin paradox is already intriguing enough in that, if one twin left the Earth in a rocket that travelled so fast it slowed it's time by half, then every year the twin continued to fly that rocket, two years would pass for the twin on Earth. This would mean that they age faster than their space fairing sibling at twice the rate.
But then... Relativity steps in and complicates this scenario even further.. From the rocket pilot's perspective, it is the OTHER twin who experiences the slowing of time due to the speed they are travelling, so no matter how long it takes them to get back to planet Earth, the twins will still be exactly the same age as each other. So many paradoxes... Imma lie down for a bit
"Yet if you were on that object, relativity states that you would see everything around you travelling at the speed of light while you remained stationary"
I sincerely doubt it as when there is no experience of passing of time there is no experience of traveling either. So i disagree with this part of your argument.
However I could agree with the conclusion that from the perspective of someone traveling at the speed of light, time does not exist.
"we know that nothing travels at the speed of light (apart from photons duh)"
So then from the perspective of a photon, there is no time, yet from our perspective as long as the photon does not collide with something else the photon is eternal.
A striking observation is that next to a concept withing physics, light is also a methaphorical represtation of god.
The twin who remained on earth whill have aged twice as much when his brother returns. If from his perpective 10 years have passed and as such he aged 10 years, for his brother returning on earth only 5 years have passed and he only aged 5 years. So no, the twins will not be exactly the same age as each other when the rocket returns to earth, as one twin celbrated 10 bithdays, while the other only celebrated 5.
Same with distance, if we start at the same point and end at the same point geographically, both at the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean we traveled equal distances.
Why, as so many people believe, does the creation of things like the Universe, Time, Life, etc. require the handiwork of a god?
And yet, at the same time no thought seems to ever be given to the need of something creating said god.
the old dude said that was a silly question
@@tukayz254 Proof of that claim? ... and please, don't use circular reasoning.
It's very insulting to one's intelligence.
When I read William Blake's ideas of the arrow of time, of an inifinite order and sequence of events leaving no discernible trace of an instrinsic metric I am brought at once to the precipice of the infinite and with a little help from drummer Stewart Copeland as the timekeeper of synchronicity, am able to discern from the vast tableau the heartbeat of time and reality itself.
I’m gonna call the police
@@garrymcfadden4105 Not again. Every time I invite my friends over they are always turning their amps to '11'.
What chills me brother is being stuck far up North in January! Did God create COLD!
William Lane Craig's propensity and capacity for horseshit is the only thing in this universe that is truly timeless and unchanging.
What specically did he say that was horseshit? Not just that you disagree with him (unless you believe everybody on earth who holds a different view from you is speaking horseshit). Seems more likely to me that everything he said completely flew over your head. Small-minded people tend to disparage what they don't understand.
For me, as a muslim..according to our tradition in the Quran, the tradition of prophet Muhammad sayings as well as the discussion among muslim prominent scholars is that, the most accurate from the four possibilities mentioned by Robert Lawrence Kuhn is the fourth one!
In which minute?
Time is the best way to keep everything from happening at once.
Quantum Theory: What's wrong with everything happening at once?
@@MalikAlMalik For real, dont I have enough to do all ready
NO. Time is why things happen at all. Time means changes without which everything is an picture bcos there is no movement.
If waters don't flow, you don't grow, the changes of hormones and chemicals in you over time, if all the things happening around us which we tried to capture with clock for organization and sequences are not happening, then there is no time bcos there will be no night and day. Changes bring all these. Without changes, what will have is a picture where there are no events.
Wait if I don't believe in God. I still have to ask did god create...
All of this matter and energy didn't just pop into existence from nothing, did it? Not believing in God is I think the laziest thing anyone can decide to do because it means no accountability for their life. Kinda like the current state of our world... hmm..
The host and guests in this video, are all presupposing there IS a god!
I don't know if the interviewer believes in a god or not, but if you want to talk with believers about god, you need at least assume god's existence just for the purpose of carrying out the interview.
@@piotrgoacki9070 Yes he is a Christian & that colors his view of everything
We are God collectively. So I don't even know why the question is valid.
"God in time is less perfect.."
Indeed, have you ever seen programmer who go into his programs in order to make his programs working correctly?
interesting …you can set up the architecture and code for the game…run it over time and watch it do what it does, then at critical junctures tweet and adjust….as long as the fundamental architecture and parameters are not tampered with…if they are then it is not the same game.
A 16 multi-verse may be comprised of 16 different games, with differing architecture and parameters, however what unites them is that they are all games designed to help evolve systems to greater levels of consciousness and/or autonomous capability
"God" is not the programmer. As some may think.
God is not an individual.
We are God. We are our own creators. Are own programmers. We are everything and everyone.
Everything is within....
@@awakenedwarrior952 fly then
@@qhudz_
Fly....
Thats easy.
no but talking about God and giving him the attribute of doing things inevitably limits him to the bounds of time which is said to be created by God himself! this is a paradox and there's no escape out of it
i found it very interesting that the late John Polkinghorne did not accept the implications of relativity.
Us, everything and the whole universe is what you call God so I guess so!
Wy not just call it the universe? 🤔
Time is an eternal set of nested loops.
Honestly, if God created, then he created everything.
Otherwise what are you saying,
That God created everything else but not time???
Eternity is outside of the whole space time phenomenon we struggle to understand. Simple.
There is no time in eternity.
Whether you understand that or not is irrelevant.
God is by necessity outside the whole entire space time equation. But man struggles to imagine outside time. Outside causation.
Yes. There are things outside the imagination and comprehension of man.
The Bible has been saying this for a very very very long time.
Yes. I agree with you.
What you're saying is true, that God by necessity is outside the space time equation, but then how does God come down to earth in flesh, to be contained within time, while it is by necessity that he be outside of it.
And zip zero evidence of any of it
But what we DO have is right before you - God created this world, this earth, gave you this life - but because life is hard, religions came up with Heavens beyond this universe but of course. Funny thing they look like Retirement Homes - billions of people just sitting about/laying about/snoring away, doing nothing, an idle, useless & pointless existence for eternity!
Ah, All part of God's Grand Plan!
Indeed!
@@kledmohd4230 If God is God, by definition He should be able to do whatever He wishes. Otherwise He is not God.
The God of the Bible is God Almighty. Almighty can come down to earth as a human.
@@ramaraksha01 "Zero evidence".
Evidence is good and required to establish something in this physical world.
The problem is you ask for physical evidence for spiritual things.
In Christianity you believe God and in God first and you will get convincing evidence as time passes. This may not be the way physical world works but as I said it's about a higher reality where physical principles have no relevance.
God did not have to create time. It is enough thar He created periodic phenomena that enable us measuring a distance between events.
After all, what is God? God is for us an undefined entity that we are not allowed to describe in human terms. Hence, God may be simultaneously in our time-space and outside of the one because He is not divisible
Very deep thinking 🤔 😶I just got my mind blown with time.😵
If God is the answer to any of these questions, then He is the answer to all these questions. So we need to science better so that He is not needed to answer any science question. Leave him in philosophy.
Unfortunately, there is an EXTREMELY HIGH probability that science will not be able to answer "everything".
The best argument is that of Leibniz: if the God is eternal (thus God), why did he wait for so long to create the world? We can answer that question beautifully from the perspective of science i.e. physics and from the perspective of philosophy.
1. From the perspective of physics: Cyclic Conformal Cosmology states that the universe is eternal. Just like God has no beginning nor end so does the universe.
2. From the perspective of philosophy: "Existence precedes ontology" (Philosophy of existence, Sartre). In other words, existence precedes essence and substance.
The answer comes from understanding that thought creates the multiverse. Time is an evolving thought, just like everything else. It is one of the most fundamental thoughts, as one of the first issues that God dealt with in his slow awakening was "which of my thoughts came first, and why does that matter?"
A better question would be:
"How long did it take GOD to create time?"
Answer:
In no time!
God is time with power to creat & change
GOD is Time with no end, but how long well a day I think from the 6 days of creation
Perhaps this can be summed up as follows: _"'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,' says the Lord. 'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts [higher] than your thoughts.'"_ (Isaiah 55:8-9)
It's maddening to hear astoundingly intelligent Christians explaining God as inherently outside of time and then turning to the Trinity, which explains that God not only interacted with time, but that He limited Himself by it in the form of the Second Person. The more you study God and time from a logical and scientific perspective, the more you are forced to move away from the notion that the Second Person of the Trinity is valid. I expect the lay Christian to adhere to the Christianity, but expect more highly educated Christians to understand the problems with it.
Mind Begs the Question:
If "I dont want to Believe,i want to Know"
But if you have lifespan of 120yrs max
Likely insufficient to know all
Right mindset to have?
Somewhere in that mix is another variation: I want to believe and not know; I want to not believe and not know; I don’t want to believe and I don’t want to know ; I don’t want anything ever;
It seems no matter what we want or do not want, we are still wanting to want or not want. The only way out of all these loops is to be still
Then are you not just a fool blindly believing in some ancient texts? They are right because they say so? Magic, miracle people when there is zero evidence of any such things?
But their words are pleasing? If you believe you will be rewarded with the easy lazy good life? Ever wondered why any magic being is so intent on making sure that you believe in something where there is no evidence and will reward/punish accordingly?
Is that all we are? Who we are as people, what we did in life does not matter
Nazis didn't care about who the Jew was, Racists don't care for blacks as human beings
That is God?
Or is it more likely that Religious people are using these Gods to promote conversions, gain power?
The latter is not pleasing, is it?
@@ramaraksha01 RMSHA…it is so curious that although we love to theorize and hypothesize , we actually are trying to explain to ourselves what already is…the mysteries are not mysteries to themselves, only t those who try to figure them out…
@@Williamb612 And that's what makes life exciting and a purpose to life + figuring these out is how we have come so far ahead today - animals don't figure out anything, they just do with what nature gave them
One guy figured out that air can create a lift and if wings are properly set, a huge body weighing tons can actually fly!
And so we have airplanes!
Scientists and researchers have figured out bugs that we can't see can do and have almost defeated Covid19 - such a disease wiped out 50% of Europe's population - the black plague!
It won't happen now
@@ramaraksha01 RM…fully agree, these questions that yield exploration enable us through pursuit to to develop and grow as a species, create, innovate and make the world a better safer home
Still, it is so amazing to me (this is subtle) that the answers to all these questions already exists all around us, we are not creating anything, but rather figuring out what already has been created
We know what comprises electricity, we know that the major forces in our universe as we know it are:
gravity
electromagnetism
strong nuclear force
weak nuclear force
We can harness these, focus these, we can observe them at quantum and relative levels, but we do not know what made them
God is was and will always be .
God is outside of time..
Jesus: Wait, that's illegal.
Once in awhile that which is illegal does some good…
Time is not an abstraction, but is defined as the interval between specific events. Creating the universe, or even making the decision to create it, would be such an event, so how could it happen “outside of time”? There may be answers to such mysteries, but I fear that our reliance on words to parse them that lose their meaning in such contexts will make it very difficult, and using Bronze Age religions as our springboard definitely won’t help.
God created time, matter, and space, our human arrogance blind us to comprehend the truth.
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? The whole discussion assumes God's existence. That makes this all an intellectual exercise along the lines of asking whether unicorns prefer oats or barley. You have to prove this god exists before you can start talking about how he interacts with time.
@Phillip Evans clearly I was referring to the mythical unicorn that has the body of a horse, not a rhino.
@Phillip Evans That's the point - there is no evidence of any such being and these fools are talking as they knew him
How was he born? Where did he spring up from? Zero answers or cheap answers of he was already there, he is eternal - again zero evidence of this eternal being
There is as much evidence for God as there is for Superman, Spiderman, tooth fairy & the like, but these guys are not going to say they exist - in fact there is more likelihood that Superman or a spiderman could exist than God
But they want only God, why?
Because God will then be pleased and GIVE them the eternal good life in Heaven
God is like a Putin, Saddam, you see - all he wants is your loyalty and he will reward accordingly
Those who support Putin are rewarded by him
And those who spoke out against Putin, Saddam find themselves gassed to death, tortured, beaten, raped & killed!
Yep, God! Unless you believe, that is what is going to happen to the vast majority of humanity while these scum cheer!
Those who support God will enjoy the good life just like any Prostitute/Gigolo/leech does down here - not doing a lick of work, just sit back and sponge off their Rich Sugar Daddies
Ah, All God's Grand Plan!
The stupidity of theists is unbelievable
@@ramaraksha01 you seem angry, as most atheists i encounter are. reframe your thoughts and throw out the bias against God. if you see God as evil - it will always be that to your mind and you have ultimately limited the expansion on who God really is.
@@Emilnananaxo Yeah the Nazi scum dividing people by belief is the nice one & the atheists are the angry ones - sure
Atheists don't see God as evil - they are not bad people - they are simply saying there is no evidence for God - that's all
YOU KNOW THAT - but that is how you preach hate - so much blood on your hands
@@Emilnananaxo If you are in an accident, you will scream "only Christians come help me?" - an Atheist stops by and saves your life and your family's and he gets hell?
The drunk Christian who caused this crash gets heaven?
how you guys embrace such scum bucket morals so easily I will never know
Professor Brian Leftow totally looks like character from a video game.
I have to say, I struggled a lot with this question. But I think it has an answer and the answer is that "God" is both temporal and atemporal; both in time and outside of time. And the key to this is how you define "God" - for me, "God" is math, logic and existence itself, ontology. These things don't need time or space to exist, they simply "are", they are the source of space and time. Yet they continue to exist "inside" of space and time - you can use math and logic to perform computations in space and time, no problem at all. Computations using what? Using ontology - using things that exist, are physical.
So you really have God (or math, logic and ontology) being both in time and outside of time - space and time are ontological properties, just as qualia is ontological but at the subjective level. There's no contradiction. Space and time, therefore, are manifestations or "properties" of ontology, although things get even more complicated when you get into quantum gravity - there you see that space emerges from quantum entanglement (more precisely, the quantum entanglement of the degrees of freedom of the quantum fields) and time emerges from the superposition of all the possible configurations of the universe.
In this view, you see that both space and time are emergent and that time itself cannot be a pertinent answer or limitation for "God". But "God" permits the existence of space and time (as emergent properties) from its ontology and allows for computations to be executed in space and time, therefore God is present both in time and outside of time.
We'll never fully understand God's capabilities. We just know He can exist in both temporal and atemporal
Professor of the Philosophy of the Christian Religion - beats having to work.
Try not sounding illiterate the next time you try to dunk on somebody.
@@NwZ2 Careless editing. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
But, I thought it was already common knowledge that time, space and gravity are byproducts of the curvature of the spacetime metrix, which is caused by the presence of massive objects. No?
We know through quantum physics... There is a concept of retro causality.... So god answering prayers could just be a mechanical in the sense....
Love this episode watching it again
There is no such thing as time. It’s a totally human construct. Think about it for longer than a minute.
i don't think so
Finally someone gets it JO!! I try to explain this and folks throw me out of the room
I have another question!! Did God make me wasting my time again!?
This was a worthy question. The debate on unknown should give voice to other mindset since there is no proof of god either way. However reasoning on omnipotence that has no limit on rules or the lack of them against the known world that has rules is not going to bring any conclusions.
It’s funny watching “god” talk about itself. Defending and questioning its own existence.
You mean the speakers in the video as God.
@@kledmohd4230 “I Am” is the name of “god”. I=Awareness.....Am=Being
I Am(god) with the use of the imagination has created mythology, science, philosophy and religion about itself. Filtering itself through the mind(ego) it can never know itself directly AS god(infinity) through the limitation of the mind.
@@FACEgod_ lol mistranslated perhaps
Not at all. “God”, is a concept created by thought. “God” as an experience would be “consciousness” or aware being, I Am. This is the place to start when defining god. “Consciousness” is the only “thing” we experience that has the same characteristics as “god”. All other things are concepts created by mind/thought.
This is a great and important series asking the big questions.
My theory is time and space is more like an illusion that only appears to beings that exist at a lower level of existence in relation to God. It is the only way we can consume and relate to such a perfect and complete being. It is impossible for us to experience God in fullness. We have to experience God in extremely small increments, and time and space is how that happens.
Of course God created time--but it was easy. He wasn't on the clock!
One funny thing is people complaining why'd it take him billions of years, well if he created it in 5 thousand years, people would be commenting, why 5 thousand years, any number of years he takes Creating, people would find the perfect excuse of why did he takes this much time and not that much time.
Well. He gets to do what he wants however he wants, and the people complaining doesn't have any control on most parts of their own life.
Of course it is the work of philosophers and theologians to consider these most profound questions concerning God's nature, and it is interesting to hear of their conclusions, but it does seem to my small brain that from our perspective, here and now in this universe existing in time, the questions are almost certainly inadequately framed and the answers to any properly framed questions incomprehensible.
"Did God Create Time?" Titles and questions like this is why I can hardly take anything from this UA-cam channel seriously.
I mean seriously.... Just because billions over human history have turned "We don't know" X into some imaginary explanation doesn't make it even remotely correct, nor worthy of intellectual discussion as if it is.
You may as well be talking to people advocating for the flat-earth view of our planet.
@emerald view: I don't think anyone would miss you if you left. before you go though are you upset because you think god did create time or not?
It's a nice thought provoking question. If you don't like it.
There's always looney toons.
@@EmeraldView wow you sound like a real closed minded guy.. trying to be the smartest guy in the room! Even Einstein thought there was a god or something outside of physical science, lighten up and keep an open mind.
@@cosmikrelic4815 , "god" is the most asinine explanation of anything because it explains NOTHING. You can't explain things using something that would have no explanation. It's beyond absurd. If there were a "god" that created anything, then what created it!? Oh right... special pleading, this all powerful thinking entity that has the capacity to do things (apparently even outside of time itself which is beyond non-sensical), just always existed.
God is ALL at once omnipotent, omniscient, and the creator of ALL things, including time. God, has no limitations except what he chooses to impose upon himself. He is the creator of not just time, but ALL parameters, and relationships. which are the laws which our universe MUST abide by. Yet, he is not subject to any of them. Like a giant iceberg, he exists outside of time, while simultaneously existing inside of time. All is before God, who knows all, however God likes "process" and experienceses it through his creation. His gift to his creation, is the ability to experience "process" with him. ALL of these people greatly underestimate God. Who's true Glory and Power are incomprehensible to both man and Angels.
The difference between God and time is, God exists.
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No, because she does not exist.
Abu Huraira reported that God’s messenger Muhammad peace be upon him declared that God said, “The son of Adam injures me by abusing time, whereas I am time. Authority is in my hand. I vary night and day.”
(Bukhari and Muslim) . This text in Islamic tradition solve a lot of issue about God and time. We understand through this how God knows what is going to happen without forcing it.
My Image of God sees all time at once. It's an aspect of his being.
Robert Kuhn creates fictitious time so that UA-cam creates fictitious money in his bank account.
I only hope if God is simply creating an experience with itself, I hope God convinces itself that I am an individual who will forever share different scenarios for ever with my deeply missed Wife and my dear Mother infinitely and with limited dark experiences.❤
If there is no physical change there is no time
I zoned out on the yakky old farts video, and enjoy the comments. Brilliant people mixed in with total numb skulls and that's the problem that leads to comedy.
One thing they forgot is that all things are possible with God. So whether God is or isn't in time, he can answer our prayers either ways. And God can possibly create outside of time. He can also go inside time and go back out of time. He can do just anything.
Wow, this channel is going downhill. Let’s stick with science and credible evidence.
Channels been posting videos for 8 years.. maybe there’s nothing new science can account for. Why not let speculation come into the mix?
@@GebreMMII , yes, I agree. With the caveat that probability is applied, and reality is not ejected. Otherwise it is not even science-fiction, just fantasy.
@@cps_Zen_Run do you honestly not expect us to find any sort of deity in centuries to come?
@@cps_Zen_Run Sorry but God is Transcendent and greater than "science and credible evidence " he created the world with it's laws and limitations whilst he is above it.
@@GebreMMII If you don't like the show don't watch it simple
It is not the matter of if God knows the future or not. God definitely and extremely knows EVERYTHING. Then by logic,whatever has not occurred yet even in someone's imagination is still NOTHING at this particular point.
The answer is simple - there is no time, it doesn’t exist
It does say in the bible that 1,000 years for us is only a day for God.
Yes GOD exist & he GOD created us time & everything else when he was ready. GOD is out side of time
God Time . . . Good times - Thank you Sir for bring us all along on your quest.
The second you bring in the problem of evil in this conversation about time it’s game over for the christian theologians.
The constraints of the Gaia experiment are all around you - the precession of the equinox, solar and lunar cycles, and Earth cycles all give a time limit for the proof of new creative ideas, a chance for God's team to demonstrate their creations and for the monsters to de-god creation. This creative pressure is what drives souls to reach beyond their perceived limitations and reveal themselves as worshipers of freedom or programming
Time and space have a beginning. If we believe something can't come from nothing then that demands time and space have a creator. The reason we can't understand it is because we are human. That's why I value science and honest scientists who try to unravel the universe to the extent that humans can. But when people start making definitive statements like "I know this" about how things came to be I tune them out. Because they don't know and their arrogance is blinding them.
I think, Dr. Kuhn should have some discussion with #Sadhguru over this subject. I am sure Dr. Kuhn will get some more clarity on this.
No doubt God create time as he create heaven and earth...
God is absolute.It's not that he needs wants or anything.But when you're absolute you can't observe yourself unless you put yourself in a dual universe to see the opposite of what you are so when you go home you can know it for the first time
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