You did a nice job constructing it, I'm sure it took a great deal of effort and know how. The reason he calls it "Poor mans" is all the automated functions which make it faster are replaced by manual devices. $3,000 not $30,000. For home use its Ideal, plus he can upgrade as he can afford it. It's 100 % better than nothing which most of these haters have. Well done and thanks for posting.
Well said. That wood, whatever it is, looked dense; very heavy. I felt that the speed of the machine would minimise the risk of serious injury to an older operator (I'm a baby boomer too) especially if working alone. Everything on the machine had the hallmark of good design and construction.
Nice one, Arnold! I could just about cope with that speed of operation myself! Like you, I value the integrity of my spine and muscles more than trying to recreate the heroics of my earlier years. Let's see what some of the smart-arses look like when they're 65! Cheers, Peter NZ.
Damn I started to nod out watching this, then I woke up went to drop my own log in the bathroom, came back and you were still working on those. This is only good if you are like 80 years old. Otherwise I would just use a chainsaw and an axe.
It's cool that you built this and everything, but I think the heating season will be done by the time you get the wood processed. Maybe a bigger pump so things move a little quicker? :)
You know what Arnold....i think it's brilliant. You built it yourself and enjoyed doing it. Yes it's slow but who cares! You haters don't have to use it. Give the man a break - this guy is rich on life and more contempt than anyone being negative about this machine. Hi five Arnold!
I don't know what everyone else was watching but I saw a well thought out machine running at a speed that the operator could cope with doing work that keeps a man that's maybe not as capable as he once was (we are all going to get old) cant avoid that and lets face it folks if half of us are still keeping our homes and families warm by the sweat of our own brows at that age I will be very surprised. well done good machine.
Several things come mind when observing this machine's operation. First is the fact that this is anything but a poor man's machine. Were this to mass produced, it would be very expensive. Second is inefficient. This machine is slow and uses a lot of energy to do what it does. Third is ingenious. I'm assuming it is homemade and it is an outstanding example of ingenuity. I think a better title would be "Old man's labor saving machine."
Nicely done. You have all the basics of one of the larger commercial wood processors. For some one who's just going to use this around the farm/house/property it's great. Only thing I could see is a better log loading system (Maybe faster winch) and making it a two man operation (One cutting lengths and the other splitting the cuts. Would speed it up a little. Poor Mans? Seeing what you've done it wasn't cheap unless you already had all the system parts.Other wise great job!
Arnold, it looks to be a well thought out machine and the fabrication looks to be quite good. I'm anxious to see your 'upgrades' video and also anxious to see something designed and fabricated by all the 'Negative Ninnys' that seem to always boast that they could do better. Keep up the good work sir.
I wouldn't call this contraption the poor man''s wood processor, rather I would call it the lazy man''s wood processor. A poor man could not afford this wood processor.
Wow. What a bunch of haters commenting! Looks awesome, good job! Building machines is such a joy. Seems like your only problem is a dull chain. Maybe some more leverage on your saw handle system or just adding another ram to engage the saw..
Nice job on building the unit A little slow on the pulling the log up but that looks like about the speed a standard winch travels. Thank you Thank you
I believe a maul is a poor mans wood splitter? This looks rather expensive. I could also probably do it faster with a Stihl and a Fiskars lol. That said: I realize this is a pensioners machine, good on him for staying somewhat active.
OMG, the basic idea is a good one, now speed this up x 10, and maybe, just maybe, the house won't cool down before you get another log in the fire . I gave this a 'like' only for the concept!!!
Yawn, I though you were going to impress me and split the whole log at one shot. And this is NOT a system for a poor man. A poor man just cuts small trees that doen't even need splitting.
It certainly is a well thought out machine. All that is needed to make it run a little more smooth and efficient would be a faster/more powerful winch and a higher flow (gallons per minutes) hydraulic motor. Also if he could figure out how to make the chain saw part cut more smoothly that would help tool. This machine has lots of ways to load the logs to be cut and spilt which makes it a versatile machine.
The reason he's a poor man is he spent all his money putting this piece of junk together and the machine is so slow he can't turn a profit with it. I could cut a true, saw it, bust it and split it by the time he got the first split done. He's got 4 pieces of firewood to about 40 I could have finished in the same time.
***** I know what you are saying but the amount of wood he can process in a 12 hour period, I can have done in 3 hours and he can't pass me unless he stays at it for another 12 hours. I'm sure he would never catch me at this rate.
You should just make a small adjustment to the second smaller log lifter just beside the splitter. I saw that you actually had to lift that log leaning forward to get it on the cradle. You should make the slope of the steel a bit more gradual and not so abrupt to make it easier to simply roll the log on the platform with your foot. I am saying this because I cut over a thousand cords of wood manually with a sledgehammer and wedges. I bent over so many times until one day my left leg paralyzed.
I guess its a fun little toy for grandpa. It's certainly not going to keep the wood bins full for winter. You'd be burning wood 3x faster than this thing could make it. However, if it's gets the old man out of the house and grandma off his back for a while, more power to ya.
The title should be enough to go on for those of you bitching of the speed of operation. "Poor Man's Wood Processor". He likely put the damn thing together with bits and pieces he had laying about. Besides, if it is for his own firewood, it is his time and labour in exchange for winter comfort. He is no kid and is likely proud as Hell of his achievement and you people piss in his corn flakes. His machine is light years better than my firewood processor because I have only a hydraulic splitter and a chainsaw. What about you? Enjoy the post for what it is, an attempt at making HIS life easier, not to please us.
Heard that shortly after this video was shot he found inner peace and became a mindfulness teacher. Sorry for the joke, I know you have put a lot of effort into building this, good job sir!
Thats a cool machine however I cant help thinking, that is one very slow saw and you have to sit there and manually run it, it would be easier to just cut it up on the ground and have someone running a log splitter. Be nice if it was somewhat automated because from what I see it is indeed saving your back but not alot of time
i love it. bloody good effort as a design and build with about 100 quid spent on research and development, every new Posch model is probably about 200k. Does seem like you got a wacker plate powering it though?
Blunt saw chains is what you get from handling the logs on the ground, one small stone stuck in the bark and it's ruined. Also, you need a higher hydraulic flow to speed it up a bit. Otherwise a good machine, it does the job, right?
I like the look of this (for an older guy like me) as swinging an axe is hard work! Cutting the log into lengths with chainsaw I'll do the usual way, but I really like the compressor just cutting through the wood with that nifty 4-way knife, like cutting butter. Yummy!
Despite three operations, the feeling and strength never came back. I can't emphasize enough the importance of protecting your back. I turned fifty when that happened and the disks in our backs get so much more brittle with age that you can bust one of them by just leaning forward or twisting your body. Imagine the stress of lifting something heavy like a log while bending at 90 degrees from the waist and not using the knees to keep our back straight. I did not understand this until I was ...
i think it does the job a machine that moves fast is a machine that creates stress and than ultimately failures. with that speed give him enough time to safely keep an eye on his machine and himself. better than cutting 20 tons with a block buster like i had to last year
Too many people look for opportunities to jeer. My psychiatrist aunt calls it small willy syndrome - makes them feel a little bigger. I say well done, even if other setups may be quicker - job done with much less effort than by hand with a maul, and a lot of applications made from one small winch. And if home made, bravo for invention & practical skill - I couldn't have done it. The saw was clearly fighting you though, Arnold.
I honestly think the amount of effort to get the logs on that thing and the time would be equivalent to a well sharpened buck saw along with a friskars splitting axe. I know that wood, I truly believe totally manual tools can bet that easy..
It is a time machine. The guy started the log when 18 years old and finished at 21 years old. Now I ordered him to build a pea splitting of highest productivity = 1 pea in an hour.
You certainly got all the answers. Will the machine also stack the split wood for you.\? I think I would chosen a warmer day. I got cold just watching.
For a Poor Man's Wood Processor, it looks like a lot of money was spent on it. I saw another Homemade Processor here on UA-cam where everything was made from scrap, and the operator didn't have to bend over to run the processor. Now that was a poor man's processor.
The chainsaw itself is the limiting factor here. it either isn't being fed into the wood fast enough or it is very dull. Fix that and it will do a good job.
To be fair it's not a bad design and i'm sure it could be developed. It seems like the hydraulics just don't have enough flow to make the process efficient. Maybe look at running a hydraulic pto pump off a tractor.
well done. The only thing was the cutting speed. you have less speed but more power than a chainsaw. I bet if you filed the rakers way down on that chain it would cut much faster.
It's slow because the wood coming off that thing is going directly into the furnace being used to power that thing. Sounds like a government project. Version 2 actually takes more wood to run than it cuts. Ironic? How much labour went into that thing to avoid labour? Not much difference between it and a $300.00 electric log splitter with a chain saw, except for feeding the logs, which is probably the reason for it's existence - from felled to firewood by machine, not on his back. I have to say I like this guy. It's slow but it's mobile, a lot safer than a lot of home made stuff, has multiple ways of loading and looks sturdy enough that I wouldn't have to worry if my family was using it.
Looks pretty cool man, Keep an eye out for a faster winch with a nice heavy cable. I'd rather take my time and watch a winch than hurt my back wrestling 10 foot logs.
I will stick with a splitting maul. If i ever get too old or am unable to split my own wood, I will be more than happy to hire some local kids to split it for me. For the amount of gas this thing is sucking in (let alone cost of the build) I am sure you could hire someone to split the wood for you. Nice creation though.
in fairness, i think this thing would work very well with 2-3 men operating and a freshly sharpened chain. 1 loading 1-2 operating the ram/saw. also, the cost of building this is probably less than a back injury or the reduced quality of life from sciatic nerve irritation.
You did a nice job constructing it, I'm sure it took a great deal of effort and know how. The reason he calls it "Poor mans" is all the automated functions which make it faster are replaced by manual devices. $3,000 not $30,000. For home use its Ideal, plus he can upgrade as he can afford it. It's 100 % better than nothing which most of these haters have. Well done and thanks for posting.
I think Its a really creative and interesting build he has made....Some might call him lazy but i think he has talent and good ideas...
It may be slow, but you can cut and split wood with a bad back or other ailment. Nice engineering, sir!
Well said. That wood, whatever it is, looked dense; very heavy. I felt that the speed of the machine would minimise the risk of serious injury to an older operator (I'm a baby boomer too) especially if working alone. Everything on the machine had the hallmark of good design and construction.
I give the guy credit for all the time and effort he put in it
Very ingenious, Arnold! I enjoyed the video very much. Congratulations on keeping alive the spirit of ingenuity!
Nice one, Arnold! I could just about cope with that speed of operation myself! Like you, I value the integrity of my spine and muscles more than trying to recreate the heroics of my earlier years. Let's see what some of the smart-arses look like when they're 65! Cheers, Peter NZ.
Damn I started to nod out watching this, then I woke up went to drop my own log in the bathroom, came back and you were still working on those. This is only good if you are like 80 years old. Otherwise I would just use a chainsaw and an axe.
***** Maybe if it has a faster wench
Winch
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It's cool that you built this and everything, but I think the heating season will be done by the time you get the wood processed. Maybe a bigger pump so things move a little quicker? :)
I love how he came up with three different ways to load it: length-wise, sideways, or the previously cut short bolts that just need splitting.
Even with this video sped up 4x, it still is more interesting to watch paint dry.
The machine looks good, I will say that.
You know what Arnold....i think it's brilliant. You built it yourself and enjoyed doing it. Yes it's slow but who cares! You haters don't have to use it. Give the man a break - this guy is rich on life and more contempt than anyone being negative about this machine. Hi five Arnold!
I don't know what everyone else was watching but I saw a well thought out machine running at a speed that the operator could cope with doing work that keeps a man that's maybe not as capable as he once was (we are all going to get old) cant avoid that and lets face it folks if half of us are still keeping our homes and families warm by the sweat of our own brows at that age I will be very surprised. well done good machine.
Several things come mind when observing this machine's operation. First is the fact that this is anything but a poor man's machine. Were this to mass produced, it would be very expensive. Second is inefficient. This machine is slow and uses a lot of energy to do what it does. Third is ingenious. I'm assuming it is homemade and it is an outstanding example of ingenuity. I think a better title would be "Old man's labor saving machine."
Nicely done. You have all the basics of one of the larger commercial wood processors. For some one who's just going to use this around the farm/house/property it's great. Only thing I could see is a better log loading system (Maybe faster winch) and making it a two man operation (One cutting lengths and the other splitting the cuts. Would speed it up a little. Poor Mans? Seeing what you've done it wasn't cheap unless you already had all the system parts.Other wise great job!
Arnold, it looks to be a well thought out machine and the fabrication looks to be quite good. I'm anxious to see your 'upgrades' video and also anxious to see something designed and fabricated by all the 'Negative Ninnys' that seem to always boast that they could do better. Keep up the good work sir.
I bet he could cut and split more wood with this in a day than most people could with a saw and axe. Probably wouldn even break a sweat.
Very good. Speed is maybe slow, but the process has a nice flow, making the job easy and enjoyable. You have done a great job!
It may not be the fastest, but it sure beats doing it by hand! Great concept, and with a bit of tweaking, it could probably be pretty productive.
I wouldn't call this contraption the poor man''s wood processor, rather I would call it the lazy man''s wood processor. A poor man could not afford this wood processor.
Slow, but has all the stuff you'd want. Great effort, sir.
What I see here is something most all 4 year engineering degree's do not care to cover - the "tack time" of the human body. Very, very well done.
Wow. What a bunch of haters commenting! Looks awesome, good job! Building machines is such a joy. Seems like your only problem is a dull chain. Maybe some more leverage on your saw handle system or just adding another ram to engage the saw..
Winter would be over by the time you have enough wood to warm an outhouse.
Great job for a backyard mechanic. Just needs some fine tuning & bigger motors!
Nice job on building the unit
A little slow on the pulling the log up but that looks like about the speed a standard winch travels.
Thank you Thank you
I find these log splitting videos absolutely fascinating! Just love them . Maybe I was a lumberjack in another life... Great stuff.
cool idea , and it is not that slow , this is not about speed
it is about letting the tools do the work , and just watch and grab a beer and relax
Nice job - interesting design. I'm 55 and can't sling those tree trunks around like I used to. This looks like it would do a good job of it.
Nicely done!
At least more trees will have matured by the time he's done working with what he's got, holy Christ on a Pogo Stick that was slow.
I believe a maul is a poor mans wood splitter? This looks rather expensive. I could also probably do it faster with a Stihl and a Fiskars lol. That said: I realize this is a pensioners machine, good on him for staying somewhat active.
OMG, the basic idea is a good one, now speed this up x 10, and maybe, just maybe, the house won't cool down before you get another log in the fire .
I gave this a 'like' only for the concept!!!
Thank you for sharing Arnold ☺
Nothing poor man about this. A poor mans wood processor is a late '70's Stihl and a maul.
Yawn, I though you were going to impress me and split the whole log at one shot. And this is NOT a system for a poor man. A poor man just cuts small trees that doen't even need splitting.
I like it. Well designed. Just needs a faster winch, sharp chain and a faster ram
BRAVO !!! Great JOB !!
It certainly is a well thought out machine. All that is needed to make it run a little more smooth and efficient would be a faster/more powerful winch and a higher flow (gallons per minutes) hydraulic motor. Also if he could figure out how to make the chain saw part cut more smoothly that would help tool. This machine has lots of ways to load the logs to be cut and spilt which makes it a versatile machine.
It took less time for the tree to grow than to process the log.
That's pure genius! You'll never run out of firewood.
I like this. This has to be nicer than doing it all manually in the cold of winter.
The reason he's a poor man is he spent all his money putting this piece of junk together and the machine is so slow he can't turn a profit with it. I could cut a true, saw it, bust it and split it by the time he got the first split done. He's got 4 pieces of firewood to about 40 I could have finished in the same time.
***** I know what you are saying but the amount of wood he can process in a 12 hour period, I can have done in 3 hours and he can't pass me unless he stays at it for another 12 hours. I'm sure he would never catch me at this rate.
You should just make a small adjustment to the second smaller log lifter just beside the splitter. I saw that you actually had to lift that log leaning forward to get it on the cradle. You should make the slope of the steel a bit more gradual and not so abrupt to make it easier to simply roll the log on the platform with your foot. I am saying this because I cut over a thousand cords of wood manually with a sledgehammer and wedges. I bent over so many times until one day my left leg paralyzed.
brilliant machine, a 2 man team could run this thing non stop and have all their firewood ready for winter in a weekend flat
Looks good to me.....(perhaps a sharpening of the chain may be in order...or a new one), other than that, looks good to me.....
I guess its a fun little toy for grandpa. It's certainly not going to keep the wood bins full for winter. You'd be burning wood 3x faster than this thing could make it. However, if it's gets the old man out of the house and grandma off his back for a while, more power to ya.
I think a poor mans processor would be an axe, not a machine that costs thousands of dollars.
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yeah isn't it meant to be the lazy mans machine
A Sharp Saw and a good Axe would be faster.... painfully SLOW
The title should be enough to go on for those of you bitching of the speed of operation. "Poor Man's Wood Processor". He likely put the damn thing together with bits and pieces he had laying about. Besides, if it is for his own firewood, it is his time and labour in exchange for winter comfort. He is no kid and is likely proud as Hell of his achievement and you people piss in his corn flakes. His machine is light years better than my firewood processor because I have only a hydraulic splitter and a chainsaw. What about you? Enjoy the post for what it is, an attempt at making HIS life easier, not to please us.
+Mike Lamothe What's wrong Mike, can't poop?
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Sorry, but you will get no pity from me,
Sorry mike, the question in question, is still there, maybe you should use your good eye!
Heard that shortly after this video was shot he found inner peace and became a mindfulness teacher.
Sorry for the joke, I know you have put a lot of effort into building this, good job sir!
nice idea, waaayyyyyy too slow, faster by hand
This is great thanks for posting the video!
ok log splitter was kewl ,the cut to length to split pretty dern ideal but the pulling the log to the unit was like watching paint dry in the rain
Love it. If I had a fireplace and the logs, that is what I would buy (money permitting)!
Thats a cool machine however I cant help thinking, that is one very slow saw and you have to sit there and manually run it, it would be easier to just cut it up on the ground and have someone running a log splitter. Be nice if it was somewhat automated because from what I see it is indeed saving your back but not alot of time
i love it. bloody good effort as a design and build with about 100 quid spent on research and development, every new Posch model is probably about 200k. Does seem like you got a wacker plate powering it though?
VERY nice set up!!
He is richh because he has good ideas! And he makes them reality! Congratulations!
Blunt saw chains is what you get from handling the logs on the ground, one small stone stuck in the bark and it's ruined. Also, you need a higher hydraulic flow to speed it up a bit. Otherwise a good machine, it does the job, right?
All looks good except for the saw. My consider using another hydraulic cylinder to work your saw. But overall nice design!
does your saw run @ 10 rpm
I like the look of this (for an older guy like me) as swinging an axe is hard work! Cutting the log into lengths with chainsaw I'll do the usual way, but I really like the compressor just cutting through the wood with that nifty 4-way knife, like cutting butter. Yummy!
Looks good, can you speed up this machine please, spring will be here and you won't need the wood.
That's the best processor I have seen in a while, simple yet productive. Very nice setup,I love it
Fantastic!!! Nice job!
very creative man to design something like this.
i am impressed.
Pretty cool invention. But think I could process a cord faster with a nail file and the back of a claw hammer.
Despite three operations, the feeling and strength never came back. I can't emphasize enough the importance of protecting your back. I turned fifty when that happened and the disks in our backs get so much more brittle with age that you can bust one of them by just leaning forward or twisting your body. Imagine the stress of lifting something heavy like a log while bending at 90 degrees from the waist and not using the knees to keep our back straight.
I did not understand this until I was ...
Brilliant now thats what I call labour saving!
Not enough time in my life for this. How many hours to do 1 cord?
i think it does the job a machine that moves fast is a machine that creates stress and than ultimately failures. with that speed give him enough time to safely keep an eye on his machine and himself. better than cutting 20 tons with a block buster like i had to last year
Too many people look for opportunities to jeer. My psychiatrist aunt calls it small willy syndrome - makes them feel a little bigger. I say well done, even if other setups may be quicker - job done with much less effort than by hand with a maul, and a lot of applications made from one small winch. And if home made, bravo for invention & practical skill - I couldn't have done it. The saw was clearly fighting you though, Arnold.
thats a cool rig man a bit of tweaking and you can put out a few chords in an easy days work
Very innovative! I think if you could speed up the mechanics, this could be a commercialized product!
undoubtedly a commercial product, and by now I am sure that a few of these concepts have been hotwired by the big shots
Looks like a really well though out design. This would be great with a bit more power and speed.
I honestly think the amount of effort to get the logs on that thing and the time would be equivalent to a well sharpened buck saw along with a friskars splitting axe. I know that wood, I truly believe totally manual tools can bet that easy..
whats the cord per hour with this? Or should i say cord per day?
Please show it. Always interesting to see what other people have made, especially as you boast of it.
i think the logs actually move by the wind blowing them , that or continental drift .
It is a time machine. The guy started the log when 18 years old and finished at 21 years old. Now I ordered him to build a pea splitting of highest productivity = 1 pea in an hour.
Pretty cool,but i don't think a poor man could afford it even if he built it himself.
Please wake me when the log gets there..................
You certainly got all the answers. Will the machine also stack the split wood for you.\? I think I would chosen a warmer day. I got cold just watching.
10/10 for effort and making a bloody decent machine that is enough for 1 person to steadily work away with to earn a few pounds
Is his chain saw dull?
Amazing machine! Well done, sir.
His design is great but it needs to be sped up greatly.
For a Poor Man's Wood Processor, it looks like a lot of money was spent on it. I saw another Homemade Processor here on UA-cam where everything was made from scrap, and the operator didn't have to bend over to run the processor. Now that was a poor man's processor.
The chainsaw itself is the limiting factor here. it either isn't being fed into the wood fast enough or it is very dull. Fix that and it will do a good job.
To be fair it's not a bad design and i'm sure it could be developed. It seems like the hydraulics just don't have enough flow to make the process efficient. Maybe look at running a hydraulic pto pump off a tractor.
Is the wood going to the ramp or the ramp going to the wood.
Just needs fine tuning, like a backoe attachment with a grapple. Judging by the video I would say you are processing -1.5 cords and hr.
well done. The only thing was the cutting speed. you have less speed but more power than a chainsaw. I bet if you filed the rakers way down on that chain it would cut much faster.
good for during wartime, picking up dead hadjis, they make good firewood too
It's a real life Transformer that splits logs. A log eating machine if you will. A log processor extraordinaire.
Good for you my friend! I like to see a sharp mind at work solving real life problems. Pay no attention to the armchair youtube critics.
It's slow because the wood coming off that thing is going directly into the furnace being used to power that thing. Sounds like a government project. Version 2 actually takes more wood to run than it cuts. Ironic? How much labour went into that thing to avoid labour? Not much difference between it and a $300.00 electric log splitter with a chain saw, except for feeding the logs, which is probably the reason for it's existence - from felled to firewood by machine, not on his back. I have to say I like this guy. It's slow but it's mobile, a lot safer than a lot of home made stuff, has multiple ways of loading and looks sturdy enough that I wouldn't have to worry if my family was using it.
Looks pretty cool man, Keep an eye out for a faster winch with a nice heavy cable. I'd rather take my time and watch a winch than hurt my back wrestling 10 foot logs.
oh my GOD man! over 3 minutes before you even split your first piece of wood!!!!! I don't have the patience to dog fuck all day like that....
I will stick with a splitting maul. If i ever get too old or am unable to split my own wood, I will be more than happy to hire some local kids to split it for me. For the amount of gas this thing is sucking in (let alone cost of the build) I am sure you could hire someone to split the wood for you. Nice creation though.
in fairness, i think this thing would work very well with 2-3 men operating and a freshly sharpened chain. 1 loading 1-2 operating the ram/saw. also, the cost of building this is probably less than a back injury or the reduced quality of life from sciatic nerve irritation.