Rook: "I made a team and we are like family" Morrigan: the Hero of Ferelden once threatened to make me into a Golem if I questioned their decisions. Friendship and teamwork Hero of Ferelden: do not question my decisions or I will strike you down.
I forgot that Hero of Ferelden can be cruel even as a silent protagonist. Slaughtering an entire elven village, dooming orzammar casteless into a life as golem soldiers, annulling an entire circle of magi, etc.
@@anders8461 Don't forget the worst ones of all. Telling Alistair that Duncan got what he deserved. And romancing Alistair just to choose Anora, make Loghain a Warden, and doom him to the life of a drunkard or have him executed.
I can't believe that she was convinced by Rook, for a goddess of lawyers she sure as hell seems to have failed "Bar Exam", personally Rook would not convince me with that whole "Fast and Furious" nonsense "we are family" f off is what i would have told him.
One question, elves were already in Thedas, not the Fade, Thedas before humans and they appeared as they do now, so why the fuck would they have to make themselves look like a race that was as yet to exist when they arrived in Thedas?
Well they make the elves, at least the first elves, as spirits from the Fade. They materialized their physical form through lyrium they got from the Titan War. The second generation elves and their descendants however, are not of the Fade, they're bred and born in Thedas
@@swagdaddy8298 you missed the entire question, dear lol humans came after the elves, it’s recorded history in Thedas. The mere mention of humans is just wrong at the time of Mythal and Solas’ encounter lol
Spirits have always imitated what they observed from the Fade, even before the creation of the Veil. So yes: spirits have shaped their corporeal form (what we know as "Elves") based on a pre-existing race: Humans.
probably due to uninspired writing. frankly whatever excuse there is doesn't change the fact that they used a generic elf design for the sake of showing one of the most important characters in the setting
@@SpardaLDK89 But that's the point, when the spirits turned themselves into the first elves, humans were millennia away from existing, therefore there was no pre-existing race to base their form on
@@anders8461 Doesn't change the fact that Flemeth was Mythal and thus crazy they didn't hire Kate Mulgrew (Flemeth's voice actor) to voice Mythal in this game
That would not have made sense. Morrigan explains before this that this version of Mythal has been sealed away for a very long time and is NOT the same Mythal that was attached to flemeth.
I love that you can get her to peacefully hand over her essence, the way she tests Rook reminds me of the scene with Galadriel in the books, she comes across as arrogant but in fact wants to see if you can rise above and be better and not fall into old mistakes, this coupled with the Mythal ending is so cool as a choice.
This Mythal seems conniving she is an arrogant self-proclaimed God. Who butchered thousands and enslaved even more to make herself the center of worship. But is considered the "good one" in comparison to her peers. I like interpretation.
@@anya8575 calling youself a god doesn't make you one. and the elves are factually wrong and where fooled. why would WE call them gods when we know they aren't? If I called myself a god and tricked people into worshiping me am i a god now?
I don't get that that whole monologue about being able only to watch. Flemeth told Hawke in DA2 that she influences important events, and then DA:I established that Flemeth was what remains of Mythal; not to mention the possibility of Flemeth taking the Archdemon's soul from Kieran. Did the writers of this game even play the previous Dragon Age entries?
I'm going off (tired) memory and i dont follow the lore very well so take my explanation with a grain of salt, but from what I understand it was explained in a different conversation with Morrigan that Mythal was fractured long ago, one side the one you know from previous games, the other this one that's been locked away for centuries. She pretty much said this one was spiteful and would consider her other side an enemy because of how different they'd grown over so many years.
@@PerfectParadox This is the correct explanation and precisely why the character should be different from flemeth. Morrigan paonstakingly explains this. Edit : Also the scattered soul is already hinted from flemeth being resurrected in DA2 possibly from another fractured soul.
@@jonaszpawlacz756 DAO was never designed as a series, wich is why it had so many ending possibilities. it was EA during their sequelcacophony during early 2000s that decided to make sequels for every ip they owned. darkspawn were redesigned in every game,does that look like a consistent narrative for you?
Wasn’t that part of Flemeth’s backstory? It’s been a while since I played origins so I could be misremembering… but yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Andraste had a fragment of Mythal too.
I'd argue that she's exactly the same. In Awakening, she saved the Hero of Ferlden, but she required a price to be paid for it- the saving of her future vessel and daughter, Morrigan. She spoke in riddles and with the tone of someone ancient, wizened and dangerous. Mind you, we're even told how dangerous she is, how volatile, by Morrigan and Flemeth both, especially when told how she normally kills intruders. In DA II, she tricks Hawke into saving her by transporting her locket to Kirkwall, wherein she revives herself and disappears, while also warning him and Merril about the perils of power and the trappings of wisdom. In Inquisition, her plan to pass on her power to Morrigan digs its roots deepest, especially when Morrigan takes up the Well of Sorrow's power, after which Flemeth gives her daughter the power to turn into a dragon and save the Inquisitor. After that, she finds Kieran in the Fade, and prompts him to give her his power, the power bequeathed unto him by the Old God we slay in Origins via Morrigan. Given the new lore, chances are that Old God was one of the remaining servants of an Evanuris, now either dead or imprisoned elsewhere. Either way, she tells Morrigan that she was always free to choose, but her path would basically always lead to Mythal, which was proven when Mythal appears to Morrigan and grants her the last of her fragment's power and memories- whatever wasn't stolen by Solas when he killed Flemeth. This fragment of her is the part of her that refused to be tamed, the part that remained of her divinity. Flemeth alone was more powerful than any mage alive at the time of Origins, having housed most of Mythal's power for well over a millennium. This fragment has slowly amassed power since the time of her original death, and isn't bound to the physical plane in a restrictive shell- so she has even more power and spite than Flemeth did, hence Rook's comment on her artifact "shining like a sun".
We have never met mythal? It’s always been Flemeth, morrigans mother. She nurtured and housed the soul of mythal. In DAI Flemeth dies giving her power to solas. We see just before she does this that she let something go through the mirror, I’m assuming that Flemeth sent the soul of mythal through the mirror and that’s who we meet
Flemeth Morrigan's abusive mother saved the Warden and Hawk. All actions that had ulterior motives. Hawk saved Flemeth's horcrux and the wardenended the blight and may have created the old God baby.
Thank you !! As soon as I saw the saved Treviso instead of dock town & just so happened to have brought Neve with me trying to get her approval up & I looked up this video & saw your comment & it worked like u said ❤❤
This is thee Mythal, she should have a voice that demands you notice and a design that is unique then just using player character creator with glowing eyes and her crown. She just looks like a modded elf Rook ugh.
this is really confusing. Solas has said multiple times that the Evanuris are not gods so why does everyone keep saying gods? Rook and everyone calling them gods is like the Inquisitor calling Corypheuas a god. it makes no sense when we already know that they are just immensely powerful mages.
Because they are gods. What makes them gods is the fact that the elven people worship them as such. Solas doesn’t seem himself that way, but others do because of the Evanuris’ nature and power.
As you don't seem to mind spoiling yourself: The first Elves, including the so called "gods" were spirits who were able to take a humanoid form, including Mythal and Solas. So though while they're mostly Elves they didn't completly lose their spirit aspects, probably why Solas has such kinship with them, anyway when Mythal died her soul retained enough of it's spiritual aspects to live inside hosts and magical objects.
@@dylanbratton2176 but they factually ARENT gods. they are worshiped LIKE gods. but it makes no sense that you aka someone who does not worship them would call them gods. I'm playing as Maker worshiping Human why the fuck would i call them gods when i know they aren't
@@Mr-Rinn sorry but that didn't really answer anything i said. we don't call any of the other spirits gods so why do we call Elvanuris gods still? this would be like calling Cole a god
That's because that wasn't the point. You stand before a broken thing, barely a being at all. The fact that it's sentient is a testimant to the raw magnitude of the real mythal. But this creature? It's a sad avatar of a god. And yet, I found the lore ramifications of speak to a shard of mythal fascinating.
Lovely, shot and reverse shot. Amazing scene construction. This is what we see of the mighty Mythal, a boring ass puzzle conversation lol Amazing work, BioWare, simply exquisite! 👏🏻 They didn’t even bother make this cutscene more compelling, they did the bare minimum and said “Yeah, that’s perfect” lmao Jesus Christ, guys.
so today we're going to have the player meat one of the most important characters in the entire series who people have been theorizing and speculating for years.. alright lets just put a glow effect on a random elf model and have her stand around in the middle of nowhere and just have a regular talk. also have her be convinced to help you just by saying you're worthy of a gods trust by saying you have friends that you like.
I do like 80% of this game but the layoffs and original writers leaving made a massive impact in the story quality. I see why they are trying to soft reboot it. They barely know the lore themselves, so we would have gotten out of character dialogue at all times if they brought back any previous companions/characters. They didnt even get Mythal right. Arguibly the most built up villain/character in the entire franchise. In Origins, DA2, DAI, we were sold Mythal was this grander than life secretive character. And she's just... this. What was the point of the past 3 games? Our choices didnt even matter in the end.
The issue is if 20% thats bad is as you say the writing, worldbuilding and story then there is no good reason TO play a Dragon Age Game because thats the reason you play Dragon Age, other games have better gameplay or action etc
Flemeth Morrigan's abusive mother saved the Warden and Hawk. All actions that had ulterior motives. Hawk saved Flemeth's horcrux and the warden ended the blight and may have created the old God baby.
I laughed hysterically when Mythal agreed to help me when I said that Neve loved to pet cats! What a remarkable argument. You nailed it, Rook, a true king of diplomacy. ...you know, Hitler loved his dog and was a vegetarian... It made him a good person, right? RIGHT?
Omg even a godess had to fall victim to being an insecure brat compaining about mansplaining?? And the writing sounds like bad AI: "Incorrect answer. Try again".
So Mythal the best of eleven people and most loved one is the most ruthless and lacks empathy now all of a sudden?. My god what happened to this game?. Goddamn DEI is all over the game. Bioware you are done!. Stop making Mass effect, you are gone.
Let me guess you came from asmongold and other far right grifters dude get over the dei stuff cause that's not the issue with this game right now and so far anyone who isn't a gaming reviewer on UA-cam is loving this game personally I don't know what to think but I definitely find the dei backlash hilarious and dumb
All choices and weak ass rebuttals Rook made, then he just mentions "I made a team and we are like family" and suddenly its now compelling? *D F+++* with this writing
Man these comments I've seen on this game are just pure facts. I love Dao, da2 and Dai they were great to me. Yeah they had some issues but no big deal the story and everything else made up for that but this is not dragon age. It's trans age the gayguard.
They're not facts though. It's small details blown out of proportion, lack of media literacy, and inability to just have fun. Is the writing weak and the story watered down at times? Yes. Is it because of the fact you can be gay? No. Because you could be gay in every single game. Zevran explains he's slept with men and asks if you're okay with that even if you play a woman, all of DA2's companions are open for both genders, and Dorian's whole arc revolved around him being gay and his father wanting to change him. They were a bit better written and less heavy-handed, sure, (and in DA2 never even mentioned even) but they were still there, and those are only the companions and not even side characters. Literally what are you on. Find a new hobby maybe.
@@bubblybobabubbles I remember they gave you the option to get rid of Zevran in one of the first scenes he appeared! Guess what are the options in Wokeguard?!?
@bubblybobabubbles yet there's tons of videos that say other wise. It's garbage pure and simple and its not small things. They made the character creator one of the main points and that was terrible. It's all about trans and in your face about it. You can't even play as a straight male. I played it for 20 maybe 30 mins and wasn't going to force myself to play it. Maybe keep it to yourself and keep scrollin instead of meat riding a shit game. It's sales say enough.
@@hadriusreznor3247 Okay.... and....? Why does that matter? In DA2 the only companion you could skip was Fenris, and in DAI you always had Josephine (who is pan) and Leiliana (who, while not romanceable by the Inky, is able to be in a relationship with a female Warden). But you're not complaining about that. And if you argue that oh, you can kill them off... you can kill off your companions in Veilguard too at the end. But you can't kill off Josie or all DA2 companions in one go. Which again, you aren't complaining about. So that doesn't hold water either. Be consistent at least. And again, this isn't even counting side characters and the characters in the books and show that came out years prior to Veilguard. And the extra media was all written really well. And uh... that's also not even a response to any of my main arguments anyway. So. Way to cherry-pick the one relatively tiny point you actually have a reply for. Truly shows how well thought out and genuine your opinion is.
Rook: "I made a team and we are like family"
Morrigan: the Hero of Ferelden once threatened to make me into a Golem if I questioned their decisions.
Friendship and teamwork
Hero of Ferelden: do not question my decisions or I will strike you down.
I forgot that Hero of Ferelden can be cruel even as a silent protagonist. Slaughtering an entire elven village, dooming orzammar casteless into a life as golem soldiers, annulling an entire circle of magi, etc.
@@anders8461 that's why Hero of Ferelden is the GOAT
The executions will continue until morale improves.
@@anders8461 Don't forget the worst ones of all.
Telling Alistair that Duncan got what he deserved.
And romancing Alistair just to choose Anora, make Loghain a Warden, and doom him to the life of a drunkard or have him executed.
@@anders8461 a true RPG experience
From a goddess of justice to a goddess of lawyers, demands to be convinced in things she already admits.
@@undershaft8828 💀💀💀
I can't believe that she was convinced by Rook, for a goddess of lawyers she sure as hell seems to have failed "Bar Exam", personally Rook would not convince me with that whole "Fast and Furious" nonsense "we are family" f off is what i would have told him.
All off this just to make you chant: friendship is magic. Ugh.
I never would have guessed that Flemmeth was the "good" one in the relationship, but here we are!
One question, elves were already in Thedas, not the Fade, Thedas before humans and they appeared as they do now, so why the fuck would they have to make themselves look like a race that was as yet to exist when they arrived in Thedas?
Well they make the elves, at least the first elves, as spirits from the Fade. They materialized their physical form through lyrium they got from the Titan War. The second generation elves and their descendants however, are not of the Fade, they're bred and born in Thedas
@@swagdaddy8298 you missed the entire question, dear lol humans came after the elves, it’s recorded history in Thedas.
The mere mention of humans is just wrong at the time of Mythal and Solas’ encounter lol
Spirits have always imitated what they observed from the Fade, even before the creation of the Veil. So yes: spirits have shaped their corporeal form (what we know as "Elves") based on a pre-existing race: Humans.
probably due to uninspired writing. frankly whatever excuse there is doesn't change the fact that they used a generic elf design for the sake of showing one of the most important characters in the setting
@@SpardaLDK89 But that's the point, when the spirits turned themselves into the first elves, humans were millennia away from existing, therefore there was no pre-existing race to base their form on
I played as a dwarf and was immediately like "die, killer of titans!" :p
@@Sp33ddialz 🤣🤣🤣 love it
a shame they didn't get flemeth's va
Yes. A lot of missed opportunities in this game and it suffers for it.
how would that make sence? the whole point is that she isnt Flemeth but actualy Mythal
@@Seraphr416 she was killed back in the trespasser dlc tho?
@@anders8461 Doesn't change the fact that Flemeth was Mythal and thus crazy they didn't hire Kate Mulgrew (Flemeth's voice actor) to voice Mythal in this game
That would not have made sense. Morrigan explains before this that this version of Mythal has been sealed away for a very long time and is NOT the same Mythal that was attached to flemeth.
Mythal is acting like Galadriel in Rings of Power
So what happened to mythal that resided in morrigan and or flemeth?
It’s still in her this is just another fragment she literally tells the player that
@@VivieneMaraWhat? Solas pulls Mythal out of Flemeth at the end of Inquisition.
@@RazielTheUnborn he took her power before he did that it showed Flemeth putting a piece of Mythal into the eluvian which then went to find Morrigan
@@VivieneMarafragments were mention in da 2
I love that you can get her to peacefully hand over her essence, the way she tests Rook reminds me of the scene with Galadriel in the books, she comes across as arrogant but in fact wants to see if you can rise above and be better and not fall into old mistakes, this coupled with the Mythal ending is so cool as a choice.
This Mythal seems conniving she is an arrogant self-proclaimed God. Who butchered thousands and enslaved even more to make herself the center of worship. But is considered the "good one" in comparison to her peers. I like interpretation.
She was always like this and it shows in how the rite of petitioners in her temple works
why does everyone call them gods? we already know they aren't gods but the game just ignores it
@joedatius But they are. They see themselves as such, the dalish worship them as such. The only one who doesn't see himself as a god is Solas
@@anya8575 calling youself a god doesn't make you one. and the elves are factually wrong and where fooled. why would WE call them gods when we know they aren't? If I called myself a god and tricked people into worshiping me am i a god now?
@@joedatius But what are they then? Ghila`Nain for example doesn't look like any race we ever encountered. She's like an eldtrich being. What is she?
I don't get that that whole monologue about being able only to watch. Flemeth told Hawke in DA2 that she influences important events, and then DA:I established that Flemeth was what remains of Mythal; not to mention the possibility of Flemeth taking the Archdemon's soul from Kieran. Did the writers of this game even play the previous Dragon Age entries?
this game should been a reboot.
@@bladerj nah, it should have been made by competent people as a proper send-off for the series.
I'm going off (tired) memory and i dont follow the lore very well so take my explanation with a grain of salt, but from what I understand it was explained in a different conversation with Morrigan that Mythal was fractured long ago, one side the one you know from previous games, the other this one that's been locked away for centuries. She pretty much said this one was spiteful and would consider her other side an enemy because of how different they'd grown over so many years.
@@PerfectParadox This is the correct explanation and precisely why the character should be different from flemeth. Morrigan paonstakingly explains this.
Edit : Also the scattered soul is already hinted from flemeth being resurrected in DA2 possibly from another fractured soul.
@@jonaszpawlacz756 DAO was never designed as a series, wich is why it had so many ending possibilities. it was EA during their sequelcacophony during early 2000s that decided to make sequels for every ip they owned.
darkspawn were redesigned in every game,does that look like a consistent narrative for you?
I'm sorry why isn't anybody talking about what morrigan just told me about this fragmented part that FELL IN LOVE WITH AN ALAMARRI chieftain... ???
Yeah could that be a andraste
Wasn’t that part of Flemeth’s backstory? It’s been a while since I played origins so I could be misremembering… but yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Andraste had a fragment of Mythal too.
This Mythal seems conniving. She’s not the same Mythal who saved Hawke in Awakening, and she’s nothing like the Mythal who aided the Inquisition.
Mythal who saved Hawke in awakening? Wtfnaee you talking about?
I'd argue that she's exactly the same. In Awakening, she saved the Hero of Ferlden, but she required a price to be paid for it- the saving of her future vessel and daughter, Morrigan. She spoke in riddles and with the tone of someone ancient, wizened and dangerous. Mind you, we're even told how dangerous she is, how volatile, by Morrigan and Flemeth both, especially when told how she normally kills intruders. In DA II, she tricks Hawke into saving her by transporting her locket to Kirkwall, wherein she revives herself and disappears, while also warning him and Merril about the perils of power and the trappings of wisdom. In Inquisition, her plan to pass on her power to Morrigan digs its roots deepest, especially when Morrigan takes up the Well of Sorrow's power, after which Flemeth gives her daughter the power to turn into a dragon and save the Inquisitor. After that, she finds Kieran in the Fade, and prompts him to give her his power, the power bequeathed unto him by the Old God we slay in Origins via Morrigan. Given the new lore, chances are that Old God was one of the remaining servants of an Evanuris, now either dead or imprisoned elsewhere. Either way, she tells Morrigan that she was always free to choose, but her path would basically always lead to Mythal, which was proven when Mythal appears to Morrigan and grants her the last of her fragment's power and memories- whatever wasn't stolen by Solas when he killed Flemeth. This fragment of her is the part of her that refused to be tamed, the part that remained of her divinity. Flemeth alone was more powerful than any mage alive at the time of Origins, having housed most of Mythal's power for well over a millennium. This fragment has slowly amassed power since the time of her original death, and isn't bound to the physical plane in a restrictive shell- so she has even more power and spite than Flemeth did, hence Rook's comment on her artifact "shining like a sun".
We have never met mythal? It’s always been Flemeth, morrigans mother. She nurtured and housed the soul of mythal. In DAI Flemeth dies giving her power to solas. We see just before she does this that she let something go through the mirror, I’m assuming that Flemeth sent the soul of mythal through the mirror and that’s who we meet
@@Keram-io8hv Flemeth
Flemeth Morrigan's abusive mother saved the Warden and Hawk. All actions that had ulterior motives. Hawk saved Flemeth's horcrux and the wardenended the blight and may have created the old God baby.
>> ANOTHER EASIER WAY!!!
Thank you !! As soon as I saw the saved Treviso instead of dock town & just so happened to have brought Neve with me trying to get her approval up & I looked up this video & saw your comment & it worked like u said ❤❤
This is thee Mythal, she should have a voice that demands you notice and a design that is unique then just using player character creator with glowing eyes and her crown.
She just looks like a modded elf Rook ugh.
havent played the game have you?
this is really confusing. Solas has said multiple times that the Evanuris are not gods so why does everyone keep saying gods? Rook and everyone calling them gods is like the Inquisitor calling Corypheuas a god. it makes no sense when we already know that they are just immensely powerful mages.
Because they are gods. What makes them gods is the fact that the elven people worship them as such. Solas doesn’t seem himself that way, but others do because of the Evanuris’ nature and power.
As you don't seem to mind spoiling yourself: The first Elves, including the so called "gods" were spirits who were able to take a humanoid form, including Mythal and Solas. So though while they're mostly Elves they didn't completly lose their spirit aspects, probably why Solas has such kinship with them, anyway when Mythal died her soul retained enough of it's spiritual aspects to live inside hosts and magical objects.
@@dylanbratton2176 but they factually ARENT gods. they are worshiped LIKE gods. but it makes no sense that you aka someone who does not worship them would call them gods. I'm playing as Maker worshiping Human why the fuck would i call them gods when i know they aren't
@@Mr-Rinn sorry but that didn't really answer anything i said. we don't call any of the other spirits gods so why do we call Elvanuris gods still? this would be like calling Cole a god
@@joedatius Cole never claimed to be a god. They did, even though they’re actually really powerful mages who used to be spirits.
I was shocked to find out that Mythal is actually Hope Sandoval. I expected her to sing Fade Into You
Why does she look like a cheap knock off of Galadriel? 😢
a black Galadriel :)
Authors weren't the most original ones
You can say that for any elven light haired woman with long hair
@@durshurrikun150 true, but this looks like she's about to do the "dark queen" monologue with the facial coloring and everything
@@MrBALAKUMARA shes not black tho?
There’s no flare or soul to this… this could’ve been convincing any random npc in any other franchise.
That's because that wasn't the point. You stand before a broken thing, barely a being at all. The fact that it's sentient is a testimant to the raw magnitude of the real mythal.
But this creature? It's a sad avatar of a god. And yet, I found the lore ramifications of speak to a shard of mythal fascinating.
Can't.you.tell.how.full.of.emotions.characters.in.this.game.are...beep...beep
Lovely, shot and reverse shot. Amazing scene construction. This is what we see of the mighty Mythal, a boring ass puzzle conversation lol
Amazing work, BioWare, simply exquisite! 👏🏻
They didn’t even bother make this cutscene more compelling, they did the bare minimum and said “Yeah, that’s perfect” lmao
Jesus Christ, guys.
so today we're going to have the player meat one of the most important characters in the entire series who people have been theorizing and speculating for years..
alright lets just put a glow effect on a random elf model and have her stand around in the middle of nowhere and just have a regular talk.
also have her be convinced to help you just by saying you're worthy of a gods trust by saying you have friends that you like.
@@joedatius I know right? Astounding!
It is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
Some other parts of the game look good.
Felt anticlimatic to me too 😢 why don't they treat her as the important character she is? She needed more respect, effort and work.
@@beatrizvera5043 it’s a problem of every other interaction in the game: characters stand still while spewing exposition at each other
I’m bitter they didn’t get Kate Mulgrew back to voice Mythal. It’s so disappointing.
Why? This Mythal is NOT Flemeth's
Flemeth>Veilguard Mythal
I do like 80% of this game but the layoffs and original writers leaving made a massive impact in the story quality.
I see why they are trying to soft reboot it. They barely know the lore themselves, so we would have gotten out of character dialogue at all times if they brought back any previous companions/characters.
They didnt even get Mythal right. Arguibly the most built up villain/character in the entire franchise.
In Origins, DA2, DAI, we were sold Mythal was this grander than life secretive character.
And she's just... this. What was the point of the past 3 games? Our choices didnt even matter in the end.
The issue is if 20% thats bad is as you say the writing, worldbuilding and story then there is no good reason TO play a Dragon Age Game because thats the reason you play Dragon Age, other games have better gameplay or action etc
this is a fragmant of mythal..one which is trapped a thousand years in crossroad. Most of the mythal is dead
Damn, I really could’ve avoided a whole ass fight.
Flemeth Morrigan's abusive mother saved the Warden and Hawk. All actions that had ulterior motives. Hawk saved Flemeth's horcrux and the warden ended the blight and may have created the old God baby.
Or in this case, a baby with high dragon's soul connected to an Evanuris lol
Why should you help? bruh look at my team of people who never actually get mad at each other and can't be made mad angry enough they leave the party!
I laughed hysterically when Mythal agreed to help me when I said that Neve loved to pet cats! What a remarkable argument. You nailed it, Rook, a true king of diplomacy.
...you know, Hitler loved his dog and was a vegetarian... It made him a good person, right? RIGHT?
This dialogue makes my brain hurt.
Veilguard feels very uninspired.
It's the wrong decision to ask her to aid you when it was you who cause it all to begin with.
Ew, that was compelling? Lmoa
Pfffff… the friendship is magic vibe in veilguard is nauseating. From sword and sorcery to my little pony. This is terrible writing.
who the hell wrote this?? this is awful dialog for characters that we made with so much depth! Dragon Age died with Inquisition.
Bruh and I figured she wouldn't have helped me either way so I just choose to fight her. Never listening to Morrigan again 😤
Wow. Promise to make a safe space and s/he helps you.
Uh... do you need to get your ears checked or do you need lessons on media literacy?
But if we fight her do we get the good ending or not ??!
You can still get the good ending if you fight her
@ tnx ❤️
Seriously? The power of friendship? Who the hell wrote this?? Hahaha!! And Mythal looks and sounds so disappointingly... plain..
Omg even a godess had to fall victim to being an insecure brat compaining about mansplaining?? And the writing sounds like bad AI: "Incorrect answer. Try again".
So Mythal the best of eleven people and most loved one is the most ruthless and lacks empathy now all of a sudden?. My god what happened to this game?. Goddamn DEI is all over the game. Bioware you are done!. Stop making Mass effect, you are gone.
This is just one piece of her soul did you not hear her say? It's probably the pride piece of her soul
From the looks of it Marrigan had the good piece of her soul
@@Iqbalx1 But FleMythal in the Inquisition was screaming about seeing Mythal avenged. What happened to that?
did you play any of the bloody games?
Let me guess you came from asmongold and other far right grifters dude get over the dei stuff cause that's not the issue with this game right now and so far anyone who isn't a gaming reviewer on UA-cam is loving this game personally I don't know what to think but I definitely find the dei backlash hilarious and dumb
All choices and weak ass rebuttals Rook made, then he just mentions "I made a team and we are like family" and suddenly its now compelling? *D F+++* with this writing
What would you have done that might’ve sounded better?
@@finnfraser2228 YES!
Man these comments I've seen on this game are just pure facts. I love Dao, da2 and Dai they were great to me. Yeah they had some issues but no big deal the story and everything else made up for that but this is not dragon age. It's trans age the gayguard.
Basically they give you the option to select a queernari, a gaylf or a homo 😂😂😂
They're not facts though. It's small details blown out of proportion, lack of media literacy, and inability to just have fun. Is the writing weak and the story watered down at times? Yes. Is it because of the fact you can be gay? No. Because you could be gay in every single game. Zevran explains he's slept with men and asks if you're okay with that even if you play a woman, all of DA2's companions are open for both genders, and Dorian's whole arc revolved around him being gay and his father wanting to change him. They were a bit better written and less heavy-handed, sure, (and in DA2 never even mentioned even) but they were still there, and those are only the companions and not even side characters. Literally what are you on. Find a new hobby maybe.
@@bubblybobabubbles I remember they gave you the option to get rid of Zevran in one of the first scenes he appeared! Guess what are the options in Wokeguard?!?
@bubblybobabubbles yet there's tons of videos that say other wise. It's garbage pure and simple and its not small things. They made the character creator one of the main points and that was terrible. It's all about trans and in your face about it. You can't even play as a straight male. I played it for 20 maybe 30 mins and wasn't going to force myself to play it. Maybe keep it to yourself and keep scrollin instead of meat riding a shit game. It's sales say enough.
@@hadriusreznor3247 Okay.... and....? Why does that matter? In DA2 the only companion you could skip was Fenris, and in DAI you always had Josephine (who is pan) and Leiliana (who, while not romanceable by the Inky, is able to be in a relationship with a female Warden). But you're not complaining about that. And if you argue that oh, you can kill them off... you can kill off your companions in Veilguard too at the end. But you can't kill off Josie or all DA2 companions in one go. Which again, you aren't complaining about. So that doesn't hold water either. Be consistent at least. And again, this isn't even counting side characters and the characters in the books and show that came out years prior to Veilguard. And the extra media was all written really well.
And uh... that's also not even a response to any of my main arguments anyway. So. Way to cherry-pick the one relatively tiny point you actually have a reply for. Truly shows how well thought out and genuine your opinion is.