Helldivers 2 - The Buffed Railgun is an Absolute MONSTER (Helldive Difficulty, Solo)
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
- I am in luv again.
The railgun against automatons is probably my go to now, didnt get back to its former state for terminids, but for automatons, it feels just as great as it used to
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I love that you guys are out there saying the amr is better or the laser cannon or autocannon!
I think it goes to show that a lot of the support weapons are all at a fairly similar level in terms of Performance, better to have this than the "one clear winner"
I think I'm preferring the rail gun for my playstyle atm but I think all of those weapons are indeed all insane. (My preferences seem to change every other day 😅)
it would be nice to see your current favourite loadout options for bots and bugs in the description or smth like that, i like testing new builds :)
they buffed safe mode too much in my opinion. They should have left it as it was and massively buffed 99% overcharge mode instead
@@cephon6198I don't think so coz on safe mode it takes a lot of shots to bring down a charger
Tough to solo with x4 the bugs. Everything slows you down even some grass lol, and railgun doesn't ever kill spore towers, unloaded a whole 20 shots, ands nothing wasting a whole raise the flag run with how long they take
ikr? nice to see a game where every weapon feels like it has a purpose or viability
"I'm pretty sure I turned off auto climb" -Takibo for the past 3 videos
It keeps haunting me
@@the_takibo It only turns off auto climb when sprinting. If you are not sprinting it still auto climbs.
@@the_takiboat this point you gotta keep it on for the memes hahaha
I hate going to get supplies or equipment in a rush and instead climbing the pod.
@@JoeSaidReptilesdied so many times when i try to get my gears or supply but nope, my diver decided to be a monkey then got shot with a rocket to the face.
"I think that shot was clean. I'm not sure if I landed it, though" is one of the best lines I've heard today.
HE FINALLY SAYS "HELLDIVE" AND NOT "HELLDIVER" DIFFICULTY
It said 9, helldiver difficulty.
He also calls nursing spewers bile spewers. Guess it's just not that important :)
@@Stormrider-Flight the only thing u need to know is that u die to their spit either way
Never ever turn auto-climb off. Just keep forgetting forever in every video, it builds character.
15:04 - The AMR. The AMR two-shots hulks and striders, one-shots devastators, kills tanks and cannon turrets very quickly from behind, deals with gunships easily, deals with factory striders. It also has better ammo economy than the railgun, and you can combine it with different backpacks for different playstyles. And comes with a long scope to boot. Against bots, to me AMR is number 1, laser cannon and autocannon make podium. Railgun is one of my favorite support weapons, but it's not in top 3 in my opinion.
Also Takibo states that the railgun is "more versatile than other options because it can deal with everything on its own". I don't think this is accurate. It's actually autocannon, laser cannon, and AMR that do that; the railgun struggles against a list of threats that AMR, AC, and LC take down easily - gunships, tanks, turrets, they can even open containers and the railgun can't.
Laser cannon is actually the most versatile, takes down everything any other weapon can but slower on some and faster on others, and at infinite range. This includes bile titans.
AMR is a more mobile AC without a backpack slot, so it has less ammo and less penetrating power, and anything both can take down AC takes down in half the shots. Only hulks are 2-shots for both AC and AMR, but AMR's larger bullet hitbox means it's easier to aim.
Railgun has more penetration, so it's good for taking down heavier targets like chargers, but if the target is within the armor parameters of the other choices, the other choices win out every time. Even with hulks, railgun may be a OHKO, but consider you have to charge it just under 3 seconds, you can easily pull off lasering hulks to the face, or 2 shots from AMR/AC.
@@thepromman Precisely. At the moment, Laser Cannon is the most purely combat effective weapon for Bot play (but only if you have the hold on target muscle memory down). It doesn't close fabs, unlike AC or AMR, but grenade pistol does, so that's less of a big deal these days. Still, Railgun is basically just an easier to use Laser Cannon that can't handle gunships.
@@piercearora7681 the issue with the laser canon is 0 stagger. You might not insta beam a devastators head, and if that millisecond you don't stagger him, you get a volley of rockets or machine gun fire. AC>all for automatons.
@@FrozenByFire3 yep the laser cannon lacking stagger is a pretty big downside
How do you deal with Factory Striders with the AMR ? its my Top Tier Loadout ( AMR, Ammo backpack, Laser and Airstrike, + Scorcher and Grenade Pistol with Stun Granades ) but against factory Striders i only can shoot down the Small guns on the Bottom of his head ... Would be great for gettin tipps :) Ty
Loving the frequent uploads and your commentary, thank you
I have to disagree with your versatility argument for the Railgun. Its low ammo count and powerlessness against the really big stuff like Tanks, Striders, and Gunships railroad it (see what I did there) into its singular role of a hulk killer. The AC, AMR, and LAS-98 all perform much better against every single type of bot, except hulks, which they still destroy rather easily. The Railgun still needs some help to even be on par with those 3. The relatively small ammo pool and risky charge system make it feel like it should be a really heavy hitting gun, but it’s not. Its structure damage is pitiful, so it suffers greatly against Factory Striders, Tanks, and Gunships. It makes no sense that it’s as weak against large enemies as it is. Its projectile velocity is also surprisingly low, for a railgun, at least. The Railgun needs to bring the big stuff down easier, and some more projectile velocity would be very helpful for taking out Gunships. 4 max charged shots on a single Gunship engine is ludicrous. It can’t even down Factory Striders without resupplying mid fight, while the other 3 take them down without breaking too much of a sweat. The railgun needs some personality, something to make it unique and competitive. Not sure what that might be, but it needs something of that kind.
Yeah it's kinda weird that the sniper rifle is more effective against massive targets than the rail gun
For real. Railguns fire reliably at around 5400 mph dealing around 9 megajoules of K E. Its enough to turn a 10 ft tin can into metal scrap for sure
Railgun should probably Pen Everything in every Side and destroy Tanks in like 5 shots when charged over safe while.
I dunno something also like 3/2 shots gunships everywhere while keeping it useless against bots structures or maybe even 5 shotting turrets from every side
The problem is that this may be too strong, but would make sense for the Ultimate armor Penning weapon in the game, the idea should be “if i can see i can damage it no matter what it is”
I guess should be balanced in a way that should make you choice what you want to kill, not just letting you kill some specific stuff fast:
If i want to kill a Tank i dump 5 shots on it
If i want to kill a gunship i dump 3 on it
And in this way it would just make his shots valuable since they can “potentially” kill everything
Downside Ammo Pack with this would be beyond Broken likely
I don't know what you're talking about but the railgun seems to do better against devastators to me.
Auto Canon typically takes more shots, which means the extra ammo is not so much an advantage.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 AC 2/3 shots them (plus it staggers them)
If you are fancy you can even Headshot them
Auto Cannon is overall best for bots above average at killing everything and can take out factories
AMR is 2nd best, very similar to Auto Cannon doesn't require back pack slot but it cant take out factories
Rail gun is Elite at killing Hulks and Devastator variants, but struggles against factory striders, tanks, vents and gunships.
My problem with the railgun is that it's basically a strict down-grade of the Anti-Material rifle.
The AMR is semi-auto, can fire multiple times before reloading, has the highest tier of scope in the game, and in total lets you carry more than 30 shots.
The RG has a charge time, fires a single shot before reloading, has a very poor scope, and only holds 20 shots. For this, you get a weapon that does equivalent damage, and still can't engage more powerful enemies.
For what it is, the Railgun needs to be able to punch through the heaviest armor in the game, even on safe-mode. Any weapon that risks killing the user if you fail to use it correctly, just to make itself viable, needs to have something that it is better at than any other weapon in the game. The railgun just does not have that.
"For what it is, the Railgun needs to be able to punch through the heaviest armor in the game, even on safe-mode"
Not really, it just needs enemies that let it work well.
Bots favor the AMR and Autocanon because every bot has a weakpoint that allows their notably lower armor pen to still do its job.
In theory the railgun has a role of little damage but consitent armor pierce which would make it great against heavy armor enemies that have spots carrying not much health.
Unfortunately that role isn't being filled in the game as it is, all bots have weakpoints so you never need as much armor pierce as the Railgun can give.
Bugs with armor a fair bit of health on their weakpoints making rockets more suitable.
Suggestion: Do a video where you just go through all of your settings -- video, gameplay, audio, keybinds, etc -- and explain what you've got, and why you've chosen it, and supply some tips & tricks that people can do in the settings.
My tip: I remapped the Stratagem callin buttons to the Arrow Keys instead of WASD ; and put "stratagem menu" to be on a mouse button toggle.
Result: I can sprint/move while typing in stratagems. Click mouse button to pop menu open, move that hand over to the keyboard and punch in the code, then throw.
Takes some getting used to, but I could NEVER go back to WASD arrows now. It's so good to be able to continue retreating from bugs while setting up an airstrike.
Other tips could include: optimizing the game (there's a couple good vids on how to preserve graphics while improving framerate) , the smart-aim/ADS mode, turning up SFX over music to hear small things more, etc.
These kinds of videos go over pretty well usually and are very easy to do!
Fantastic suggestion. I would keep the control key the same though. I use my mouse buttons for weapon swapping
Whats up legends
The problem with the railgun isn't dealing with hulks and devastators. The railgun is arguably the best weapon against them. It's the fact the railgun takes 10-15 high charge shots above 90% to take on tanks and turrets. With factory striders taking up to 18 shots on their belly or faceplate.
It’s not supposed to take out tanks and turret. That’s what stratagems are for. People can’t understand that support weapons aren’t supposed to solve all fights/engagements.
Exactly this, they have put the railgun into the medium weapon category alongside the AMR when it was previously able to deal with the big monsters without an issue, and to me this category doesn't make a lot of sense unless you have friends that are hardcore on tankbusting. I personally don't see any reason to not just take the expendable anti tank and use them when necessary alongside a very strong primary like the Eruptor that can deal with devastators, hive guards, etc.
@@The-Caged-King People seem to forget that this is a multiplayer game and you're not supposed to fill every role
@@hellsregect can’t fix stupid
@@The-Caged-King The Autocannon can though - so is the AC overtuned?
Decided to try the rail gun for the first time after this patch and I LOVE it. It might not be the best but it’s soooo satisfying to charge up a shot in unsafe mode and blow the head off of something. Probably one of the most satisfying weapons if you time it right.
TITTIES,
good, now that i have your attention:
Hey, hey Takibo.
TURN OFF AUTO-CLIMB
I tried 😭
What up legend
i run the dominator as my main so anything smaller than a hulk is no threat, railcannonstrike for hulks and rocket-eagle for turrets and tanks. i have no need for a supportweapon, so i usually just bring the spear to blow up factories from afar. lol
dude how is your Helldive experience so calm LMAO
You make ds4 windows look really fun on helldivers 😊
every single time I bring stun grenades I immediately regret not having contact nades
they need to let it actually do something to gunships and it would be great. AC just handles every situation
Ac performs as one of the best in every scenario. It's too well rounded, it's amazing
@@the_takibo AH has said it's the pinnacle of supply weapon balance in their eyes
@@the_takibo nerf soon lol
The weapon swapping to the big iron then back to your other weapons reminds me of your Remnant videos my dude
a Remnant 2 collab Warbond would go hard.
Btw if you put it into unsafe mode and just shoot like a half second after it gets to safe, there seems to be a damage/armor threshold that dramatically increases its effectiveness. It’ll probably 1 hit through shields.
The railgun back to my main slot. I love it
Man you give me so much empty mag anxiety!! I'm like RELOAAAADDDD
Btw idk if yk this but you can click around on the map and find side objs i didnt know this for a while but made my life so much easier on planets where the map is obscured
The auto cannon can deal with everything the bots can throw at you and take out the fabricators so it's my go to
u gotta make a discord or smth these videos and the community is great
I only just noticed that you can see the stratagem pad on your arm in first person, how have I not seen this before. :/
Been having a lot of fun with the Railgun lately. The thing wrecks chargers. two shots its legs and the armor is off. dont even need to charge it to 90%
Unless they've sorted it with today's patch I wasn't finding that - was taking 4-5 shots to take the armor off a charger's leg when I tried it a couple of days back. 2 would be OK but it still feels like a weapon in a kind of odd place.
Bro is straight up lying I'm weak
Wow it can kill chargers in 2 shots AND you have to shoot the leg with your primary to finish it? Or I could just one shot them with EAT, RR, or Quasar lmao why would you take Railgun over that?
@@cd8086 because a quasar/EAT isn't going go to have as much of a good time against the 20 bile spewers, brood commanders, and the other "medium" enemies lmao. In my games, most people don't get killed by chargers, it's the other mobs that overwhelm them. It's nice to have a balance of EAT/Quasars and the railguns/autocannons/AMR on the team
@@Goofy-Goobs.you have a primary that can deal with anything but chargers and titans.
I think the railgun is still great for bugs too if you pair it with the expandable Anti Tank, use the railgun to quickly take care of medium armored enemies and the anti tank for chargers and bile Titans and you still have 2 slots for eagles and orbitals
Just use AMR like joozies
@the_takibo
I think when ranking support weapons it is all about the playstyle of the individual. For me, I run the below build and have great results on helldive diffulculty. You should give it a try sometime :D
1 AMR (Devastators, Hulks, and walkers)
2 Orbital Laser (Large groups, Motars, Factory Strider, Bunkers, and Heavy Factories)
3 Orbital Rail Cannon (Large Targets such as tanks and turret towers)
4 Shield Pack (Personal Defense)
Load Out:
Primary: R-63CS Diligence Counter Sniper (Devastators and small guys)
Secondary: Grenade Pistol (Destroys factories and gives you some area damage if needed)
Grenade: Stun Grenade (gets you out of tough spots and helps with hulk shooting.)
Armor: (I run heavy, but totally up to you.)
Booster: Stamina
NOTE: BESERKERS ARE YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE WITH THIS BUILD.
I hope you like it 😁
-Drake
By the way stun grenades open those Conex box things. Laser and AMR are my favorite for bots, they dethroned the quasar for me after the nurf.
also noticed they fixed the iron sights with the senator
Buch more accurate now.
can hold reload to twirl it too!
The railgun could already one shot hulks before the buff. Personally, it doesn't feel much different now, because a single shot is still all that's needed.
What I've been doing is smg 72 pummeler, gp-31 gp, g-23 stun, railgun, supply pack. Eagle smoke strike and EMS strike. So far a good team support for bots.
Ps Eagle smoke strike can also destroy factory if anyone didn't know.
Also Armour recommend med kit perk, I use Cm-10 Clinician
26:05 thats my spirit animal moment hahahaha.
When everything like fucks up xD
Shoot striders in the crotch area with the scorcher. Before the last update they went down in 2 hits to that area. Might be 3 now, not sure.
Btw you probably know this but the rail gun can one hit devastators nearly anywhere if you slightly overcharge it
bro, we just ran a test, because I could not even come close to doing anything on Helldive bots. Their aggressiveness and accuracy was nothing like what you encountered. My friend was having issues with his network and they could not hit him for shit. Meanwhile me, with sub 40 ping am getting lasered from half-way across the map accurately. Bots on your map were shooting wild, even sitting and waiting while you reloaded. I think you have shitty wifi, because there is NO way in hell that mission was representative of a real Helldive solo experience.
I think the Autocannon and the Railgun are very good for Bots, but for me the Top Tier loadout is the AMR, Scorcher, Ammo Backpack Orbital Laser and Eagle Airstrike, i run LVL 9 missions with that loadout like its Kindergarden ... of course there are sometimes a few Heavy Enemy Opponent situations where i also sweat a little bit, but all in all its a dream loadout :)
Fun fact, you can instakill a factory strider by firing an unsafe (Idk if safe works) railgun shot at its underbelly and firing an eruptor shot into the hole it creates. This ALWAYS kills it instantly.
That chain of events at 28:36 was so funny! Blasted into a first person glitch, then into 4th wall mode, ended up in front of a confused Automaton, who then gets deleted by his buddies! 🤣
"im going to fight a factory strider with the railgun so we can see how its done" proceeds to kill a factory strider using only strategems
I have to know why you leave the weapon flashlights on? I can't stand the way it lights up the fog and have it off for night missions even.
Using Unsafe mode for the Railgun can still be useful.
You're capable of one shotting devastators if you miss their weakpoints when it's moderately charged.
(This is from my experience, feel free to correct me)
what happened to you at 28:40 was happening to me constantly during a defend mission everytime i was laying down until i realized i had to stop laying down lol. I would be put into some sort of spectator mode above just watching everything and had to get someone to TK me because when I laid down while getting barraged by bots I stopped getting hit since that was why I laid down to begin with. not sure if it was because I was on some sort of slant ledge on the map like you were on the hill or what. super annoying but thankfully you continued to get attacked and looked like that knocked you back out of it. weird stuff
for me the railgun is the most mobile/range-versatile heavy weapon, and I say that over the AMR because the scope makes it less viable for me at close ranges
what kind of pc are you playing on my guy? looks nice!
The issue is that all it took was a factory gunship, and god forbid if you're unlucky 2 of them side by side, then you're gonna feel the big downside to having a railgun, as oppose to a LC, AC, or AMR.
i knew rail gun was mediocre vs bot and this video just confirmed. The only good thing it excels is at killing hulks, but people play with the stuff they have fun with.
And that's fine..
hey can you try next the erruptor vs automatons
"Did a blow it's backside?" ahahah!
Any reason for the heavy armor? Is it worth the lack of stamina and speed?
DAY 2
challange for you :- complete a mission helldive difficulty with heavy armor without speed booster (loadout your choice) against terminds
I find side objectives by either just stumbling upon them or spam pinging all over the mini map on what might be the right spots and then all other the rest of the map if the initial pings didn't get everything. Lol
I would have brought the grenade pistol myself :P
As for support weapons - it's Auto-cannon vs Laser and now vs Railgun. Though need to see how the Railgun handles gunships, as those are bloody hard.
I love the las-98 Laser Cannon for Gunships. Aim max. 2 seconds at their engine. Down goes the gunship. xD
One shot hulks you say? Railgun is back on the menu boys!
18:40 no. a player with autocannon main. biggest difference is i dont have shield pack. so no protection from impacts. with autocannon you can 2 shot hulk but needed to hit head. plus you can kill factory strider from below with 7 shot. bu railgun looks impressive. i love that gun.
Having most of the squad run versatile loadouts that can deal with anything imo is much nicer than everyone running specialized unless playing with friends or decent pugs. Doing helldives with people running specialized builds/fun builds isn't impossible but definitely is much harder and is pretty apparent with many in the community always complaining about devs since so many people run quasar to only be good for taking out dropships and hulks. With the increase in patrols, being a rat scurrying around can't be half assed imo, you either need to be a ninja or duke it out quickly and move asap. Alot of people half ass either playstyle and their loadouts don't help.
For my own playstyle, I like hotjoining people on helldive to help out and I often see that the autocanon is a must have for that role. I often jump in missions that are fubar and the biggest reason I see is the simple fact that their loadouts are not reliable for helldive. The amount of times I see people having 10000 gunships or the mother of all devs rushing them and they're just running around waiting for their quasar and stratagems to come off cooldown is just funny.
In the end though, 4 man helldive is still a joke so people should just run w/e is most fun for them, it is just a game afterall and a pve one at that.
Return of the king?
That should be a pretty nice improvement from taking two shots to kill an automaton grunt to the head
Try the punisher plasma next time you fight automatons, 4 shots to body to kill devastators, staggers and damages heavy devastators through their shield, can stunlock multiple devastators at once
I still think that the normal Laser Cannon is underrated against Automatons, even after the buff/nerf in the last patch. I still play it on Planets who aren´t have the faster overheating thing.
The railgun was decent against the bots even before the buff, the bigger difference is on bugs where u can actually feel the buff
Hitting the visor always one shot hulks
Should give the punisher plasma a go against bots. Actually my number 1 now since the buff
ok i tend to turn videos on while im doing other stuff but at 13:20 in the video you stopped me dead in my tracks
As much as I adore the railgun, I believe the AMR is a better choice.
But, I'm a really big fan of both. I do wish the railgun has a dmg buff, but im content with whre it's at. Hopefully they give it more love in the future.
8:58 Same here man. Same here😔
The railgun was never crap vs automatons. Been running it pre buff vs them regularly to great success. Still 1 shots scout striders and hulks and anything not a tank.
Double gunship factories will always be railgun's major weakness
@@chocorosette1254 how does it fare against them now? Before I would try and get under them with the scorcher
@@kylehallman8183 it's better to stick with scorcher against gunship if running with railgun. Takes several shots to take one down with it and you get staggered so much while charging and aiming
So I’m currently taking a break from the game for a week or two due to enemy spawn frustration, but something baffles me here:
There are way, way, WAY fewer enemies here at 9 than what I fight at 3-5 solo. That’s actually low key irritating when I watch others do solo runs. Bots, bugs, both of them will have so many enemies and patrols, my game will end up lagging when it usually runs pretty smooth. Too many units to count, and that’s using stealth. But here it looked fun. Scary at times, sure, but not impossible or broken.
I’m confused. Is 3 just *really* broken or is higher difficulty, weirdly, more approachable solo than it seems? I need rare and super samples but have a hard time dealing with people, so I stick to what is fun by myself (3-6). Or I did, until patrols seemingly doubled when there were already swarms for me. It’s like I always had the numbers for a full group.
I dunno. Maybe the break will help but I can’t shake the feeling that something is just off.
I think the railgun needs a better sight, faster projectile speed, and higher damage at close to max unsafe charge. There's too much risk for too little reward with Unsafe.
What's this new mission? It would be sick if they finally gave us the chest bump emote from this mission.
Man watching these folks play on the PC feels like it is so much easier than playing on PS5. All these 1 hitters dont happen on PS5 man.
Learn to use gyro aiming.
So real, i know it’s a skill issue but man aiming on ps5 is so hard
@@wabbit2099 can you give some tips? I’ve tried it out but it doesn’t seem to do much for me
dont worry, I play on PC and its not that easy for me neither 😅
@@idobenotvibing is Like Max Payne 3 all over again
Nice.
You can no longer ping the map and find secondary objectives sadly that was a "bug" that got "fixed"
What FOV do you use?
I go auto cannon and AMR for bots . I like to keep a distance and pick them off
I personally use the ballistic shield with an SMG. Add in a rail cannon and oooo boy the bots are way easier..
New one handed SMG coming may 9th, hopefully it has medium pen.
I'm glad you made this, railgun wasn't even on my radar for bots. I'm gonna try out Eruptor/Senator/Railgun to see how that goes, seems like you can handle most things with the senator and railgun, then eruptor for specific explosions you need.
I think Eruptor and Railgun seem kind of overcompensate
I need those stun nades, hulks are my worst enemy 😂
Is it because of me or is there someone else who got the felling, actually hitting the target with auto Canon, feels a bit harder for some reason. Compared to rail gun for exsmpl. Maybe it's because of the fall off flight height of the auto Canon bullet. I mean by shots starts at 40-50 meter distance
Wasnt the Auto Climb toggle only for Sprint Mode?
this game has some hiden atributes right ? whats the diference between this weapon and autocannon ? seeing u play...it looks better than autocannon
Idk how you play with the flashlight on literally completely blinding
I think the rail gun is no better against bots than it was pre buff. I used it before and after and found similar results but against bugs the rail gun is so much better against chargers.
Probably gonna be an unpopular opinion. but I like Quasar nerf.
Because it puts my beloved Recoilless Rifle back on the table.
Automatons have started like soldiers in Vietnam... Climbing trees 😅
Jesus H finally someone that isn’t delusional about this stupid gun lol. It was just fine before the patch and now they made it even better. You don’t even need unsafe mode anymore. It’s completely redundant now.
only reason im starting to dislike the automatons is purely the flying ones. expendable or quasar is like the only good things against them.
so is the spear, the AMR and the lazer canon
I think they have increased the ragdoll, i spend my time flying even with cover.
I've never stopped using the railgun against Automatons. It's still very funny, just simply not good enough to justify using it when you expect at-ats and tanks.
I do tend to use it a lot (even pre-buff) if people bring sufficient amount of anti tank weapons and/or stratagems.
I have been using the railgun against bots before the patch and nothing has really changed. Its always been able to one shot hulks even after the big nerf. It still sucks against bugs. Its still nothing special
this FOV is crazy
even pre-buff the RG was great for bots, 1 shoted everything up to a Tank. now you just dont gotta charge it up quite as high
On which platform do you play?
Honestly, I'd bring this thing in on bot missions more if they gave it a scope. A nice 50m would do
Top 3
Autocannon
Amr
Laser canon
Railgun cant deal with gunships without ridiculous aiming
Bro unlocked 5th person view, lmao