shes right in every way the toxic league is the league we want cuzz i dont wanna see valorant energy in league i bet in 2030 will be more gay characters than normal character
@@Boshin "i bet in 2030 will be more gay characters than normal character" Sounds like a great plan! Let's make the "straight" identifying characters the odd ones out for a change
I quit playing league in high school and I’ll be 30 next year. I think arcane is an amazing show and who tf cares if vi is gay. Im more of a conservative myself and I have no idea why you’re ranting about this. League isn’t a good game anyways. Arcane is a good show though.
Same! I'm not a liberal but Arcane wasn't really bad as she makes it look like. Season 2 was just a bit rushed, that's only issue i have and gay stuffs were never my concern. I used to play LoL for years in the high school. The reason why I quit was because game gone really bad long before Arcane happened. WoW is arguably better than LoL. I knew what was Riot Games doing when Arcane first released. They were clearly trying to retrieve the popularity of LoL. I'm glad that it failed to bring new fans to LoL. Deserved! 😂
There's this thing called grass, it grows outside. I think they have that stuff in league too but it looks a bit different out there. It's easy to find and feels nice to run your hands through.
@cherryaenue fan art, maybe, there has never been official art confirming any relationships outside of them existing in the same universe. Even Graves and TF haven't had official artwork of them being gay.
@cherryaenue yep seen almost all and can't recall anything confirming the relationship beyond a shadow of a doubt. There has been art that may suggest, but nothing confirming.
I love Arcane but can't stand when nearly every fan of the show looks for a gay relationship between Victor, and Jayce when that was never even hinted at. Especially when Jayce said Victor was like a brother to him.
Literally! Not to mention, Viktor is more machine than man. A ship like that, even if it /was/ hinted at, would be doomed to fail from the start as Vik isn't capable of those kinds of feelings. Plus, as I saw someone on Instagram point out, it's honestly harmful to society to constantly be finding ships between platonic characters. Bc it erases the fact that intimate FRIENDSHIPS do exist irl & romanticizes EVERYTHING (gay or straight, it doesn't matter).
Arcane was great, Vi and Caitlyn was a good build-up. Vi looked great, she's a Fighter.. Of course she would be jacked and still sexy. As someone who doesn't support a lot of the woke nonsense, you're wrong about Arcane.
You guys are infamously one of the most toxic fan bases in existence, to the point where people won’t even play the game after watching the show. I don’t think there’s anything left to ‘ruin’ at this point
0:13 Whoa whoa whoa, hang on. Arcane has _not_ spoiled the League of Legends community. The League of Legends community spoiled the League of Legends community. All of the people who play that game are either terrible at it and they're assholes about it, or they're good at the game and they're assholes about it, or they're the embodiment of the meme of the dog sitting in the flaming house saying "this is fine."
No No, There is a the Arcane fandom and then there is the League of Legends Community. This is about the Arcane Fandom vs the League of Legends Lore Community. All it looks like that the Arcane fandom is becoming the Gay Shipping side that everyone doesnt talk about or vocally doesnt like. So when they insert themselves into things that involves everyone like cinematics, their sensitivity will be tested because the League Community is not kind at all
I'm beginning to think you're screaming at a wall? Like having one gay couple in a show, updating some dated character designs and like 1-2 comments about headcanoning Katarina as gay didn't ruin league. League has been a toxic dempsterfire for years. Not to mention, you have a clear bias in this discussion, given your past actions of clear homophobia. You're incapable of giving an objective argument, this is nothing but personal bias
@@jackspratt7264 sure mate , that s why you re saying the same stuff we have been hearing for almost 10 years and yet league is still as successful as ever . Try to be original for once .
@@Butter-keks85 Bro, what are you talking about, man? Are you mentally challenged? Nobody is questioning or denying League's success. That's not even what the conversation is about.
I disagree with your comments about Jinx, Vi, Udyr and Leblanc. 1) Before Arcane, Jinx was the classic Harley Queen and had no depth. And this Harley Queen things are boring today. But Arcane made her one of the best charachter ever written. 2) Vi being muscular makes sense. Her whole thing is punching things. She must have strong arms right?? Arcane tries to be as realistic as possible. 3) I think it makes sense that Udyr is fat. He is not fully fat tho. More like caveman physics. And in a place like Freljord it makes sense. Freljord is so cold and It is very important to eat fatty foods in cold weather. He's living in the forest. You can't expect perfect physics from a person living in such a place like that. And I know he is running so much in game but in lore his strenght more important than his speed. (My man can crushing rocks with his fists. And as you can see his "Spirit Guard" skin has more clean physics. Guess why? Because in that skin-line he stayed in the Ionia. The zone of Peace. Very diffirent from Freljord) 4) Arcane made Leblanc BETTER. Her old model is sucks. She is over +1000 thousand years old and she is a manipulator and master tactician. But her old model doesn't feel that way. LoR made her better but I prefer her newest model. I love her lore so much. Don't get me wrong. I don't like this attitude of some people either. But I think it's not Arcane's fault, it's people who like that. League has 170 champs right know. How many of them are homosexual? 10? 15? (In short, not that much)
Since the first season they adapted the game to Arcane and censored every sexy skins and make VI as a men, instead to adapt the series to the game they just trashed and transformed in to uglyest g*y show lol
What both pathetic and ridiculous is that they think there the good guys by forcing these dei crap and pushing alphabet stuff in to this and this will make people be more accepting but it does the opposite. By pushing and forcing stuff like alphabet stuff into these media or changing established to be gay, bi, lesbian or whatever it makes people hate them because it not makes no sense but you have the stupid crazies with pronouns and stuff will attack you and be psychotic which make people hate them even more. It pathetic. Not every show or media needs to be diverse or have alphabet stuff in it. Especially when it doesn't make sense
Which is why I’m so glad Disney outsourced Marvel Rivals to a Chinese dev. Yes the game has censorship (try typing I love Taiwan), but at least the marvel characters actually look like their iconic comic counter parts, I’m not guessing what gender they are, and it’s actually fun
Season 2's story was shit, actually. Your token lesbian couple was shown having sex in the same jail cell where unwashed Jinx sat for an untold amount of time. Her fucking sister, Vi, also ignores her suicidal state in the process. If this is the "story" and representation you call good, then TV is doomed for ever.
As someone who likes all of Arcane, I 100% agree that the Arcane fanbase, or the "Arcane onlys" are a toxic poison to the greater LoL fanbase. Pure toxic gay shipping trash and socially inept morons. And the "Welcome to Noxus" cinematic was amazing from beginning to end. Top lane rep, Elise vs Katarina was gorgeous, and LeBlanc and Vladimir and Mel all look fantastic.
They went through extreme breast size reductions though. It's like an animator thought the Jinx boobs are the standard and now all females get the Jinx reduction treatment.
@@Chraan Personally I think Mel is exposed enough with her new fit, then Katerina and Elise awesome honestly. Big/Small knockers are the least of my concern.
@@GypsyDangerOW Honestly in real life I always start laughing when I see women with small tits but try to expose as much as they can, which is still nothing. Mel is not an original LoL character, so I didn't count her, but it's a crime that they crippled the rest. What's with that body shaming on big tits?
So you’re saying one is a ‘toxic poison’ to another poison that came before that. It’s league, crazy stuff is bound to come out anyways and most of the time it’s the players
it not even Arcane Fans it just weirdo who are fake fans they see go into popular thing and try change it like remember when my hero academia first came out, and there was no weird shit then my hero academia went mainstream and all sudden these weirdo come out of nowhere and start drawing gay shit even threat the studio and the create of manga make everyone gay and it the same with Arcane, I bet all my money those people don't even play the game
Remember when Mineta, the resident pervert from My Hero Academia, began clutching the main dude's legs in a teary-eyed, impassioned plea for him to get a hold of himself after behaving strangely throughout one episode? It was a response to strange behavior, mind you. However, the journo press misfired or hastened to speculate that Mineta was now at least bisexual despite no history of such inclinations (his attention was purely on chicks). So, I don't think it was fake fans. It was just very loud fans, amplified by the indiscretions of a permissive wing of media, who then rang in the ears of impressionable artists and marketers at the company. The latter then capitulated in ways that are detrimental to their vision, the initial fans' assessment of League and Hero, and their ability to reel in new audiences while retaining the old guard. If it was fake fans, then it's viral marketing, but then we'd see some receipts emerge. You know, community managers influencing forum opinion-making--that kind of thing. I don't think a bunch of mid-management types could get away with telling their PR networks to emphasize "the gay" without first consulting with the authors first. Unless, of course, the authors felt pressured into changing their vision. Tragic, either way.
Yeah, same here 😢 But there still hope!! As long as Alex Yee and Christian Linke are still the co-creators of the next show. Amanda Overton ruined everything
In my opinion, Arcane is the new Avatar. A lot people praised the heck out of it, and I can respect that, but I just don't see the appeal, in the first place. Even my cousin tried to get me to watch it and I just repeatedly say that its not my cup of tea. Maybe I'm too judgmental but its just how I feel.
Maybe this is a new avatar, but after reviewing these projects, Avatar is much more interesting and a more developed world of this series than the Arcane. There are many details there that are being praised by the arcane today in the same way.
avatar the movie or atla? arcane is honestly really great, the first season had some great buildup and I wish they focused more on the sisters and the repeating cycle compared to silco and vander.
I clicked on this video because I thought it was going to have good points, but its just a bunch of homophobic shit. So what, there was a tweet, it was a JOKE, jeez man.
I'm not a League player. A friend was really amped about the series so I checked it out, but I got bored and turned it off a few episodes in. Considering the reaction Season 2 got (even my amped up buddy hated it), I'm glad I didn't invest myself in it. I love animated stuff normally, but couldn't even bring myself to watch all the episodes I downloaded.
jayce and viktor being gay was always a joke before arcane was around for years. whats next? ezreal is gay with Taric? i wouldnt even be surprised if that becomes a real thing at this point.
These same femcel shippers will ship straight men like Jayce and Viktor yet call you all names under the sun if you ship 2 straight women or a lesbian with a man. The double standard and no self awareness is crazy.
They barely qualify as shippers. Shippers made fanart and fanfiction. These people are activists that do nothing but CONSUME and DEMAND their fantasies be made reality. Actual shippers of olden days are perfectly content to play in their own sandbox, despite what's canon or not. It's the difference of kids playing with the toys happily, by themselves, making up their own fantastic stories, and kids smashing toys on the ground and throwing the pieces at others because the other kids don't like their petty rules or games.
Let's be honest, Arcane was produced to retrieve the popularity of LoL. I've played that game for years and it already went downhill long before Arcane happened. I'm against woke stuffs but I'm not gonna sit here to lie about what ruined LoL. I liked Arcane but season 2 was bit rushed and it's still good to me. I don't understand why would "gay stuffs" scare you 😂
League of legends has been ruined for a while and let me tell you it is definitely not the arcane fandoms fault the lol fanbase is honestly kinda disgusting on how they treat new players
Because for the Left, EVERYTHING is politics, and every platform they use for PROPAGANDA. We need to ban the Left from the entertainment (and our life altogether) for good.
Oh dear, are people making their own versions of fictional characters? That's not what entertainment is for! The government should decide all details of a character, and no fan art and fan depictions are allowed! What a sour video, that simply asks that all fun be taken away from people because Riot themselves didn't create it.
that’s not what this is about though, people can do whatever the hell they want with fictional characters- the problem is when these people become so insufferable and try to force everyone to have the same opinions as them, and they’d attack you if you reject their own verizon of a certain character, it’s such a toxic behavior
@@crystal2967 if you "reject" it? What do you mean? Are you going around saying whether someone's art is cannon or not? if so I totally understand why people get angry at you because everyone knows it's not cannon and no one cares.
@@Xethl Funny enough, the studio who created my hero academia and attack on titan got "bad wishes" by "fans" as soon as as anime became mainstream and it all started from fanart.🤷🏻
@@Xethl phrasing, both anime I mentioned had no problem with gender and when anime become mainstream, the new fans (and shipper) sending "ill wish" to the studio because there is no rainbow relationship. Everything now must include lgbt or those people will tantrum And it all started from shipping or those kind of fanart
So the problem wasn’t that gay characters were forced, even when they are meant to be gay and it’s well written you don’t want gays. At least the truth of who you people really are show up at some point : )
they dont care about lore or chemistery, they just want it to be gay giving the same vibe as this boy and girl should kiss because they are both blonde ahh
8:20 Longtime League player here. YOU are the one throwing around labels, making it seem woke-r than it is, not the show. Vi being a lesbian doesn’t cancel out the rest of her character. She doesn’t even mention being a lesbian, not once! Aside from kissing and forming a relationship with Caitlyn, her sexuality never interfered with the rest of her “story role”; so what characterization are we losing through the adaptation? Haven’t Vi and Cait always flirted with each other in the game? You make it seem as though Vi looked into the camera to spew propaganda. All she did was kiss a girl, because she likes girls. This is like if they adapted Ionian lore and portrayed Rakan and Xayah as a couple… because they are. Like how Caitlyn and Vi are cop partners that are interested in each other.
Lol oh no the gays liked arcane wah wah wah 😂 this screams "i can't consume lol content because the gays have their own opinions and head canons and fan fiction and instead of not consuming those I'm gunna be homophobic on the internet" LMAO
@christianclark347 according to riot themselves what ? Did you read what tryndamere posted ? Let me guess you didn't and went straight for the clickbait videos because it made you feel all warm and fuzzy inside
@@Of_infinite_Faith How could she have known about Jinx's mental state when she was stuck in jail for 7 years. After they reunited again at the end of S2 Vi didn't say anything about what happened to Jinx because she did not know what happened to her. If she did, she'd have obviously said something about it. There are absolutely no hints that show that she was aware of what's happening. This is your conclusion, and that's fine.
This video was wild to me. I understand the dislike of excessively gay stuff. I genuinely dislike a lot of the forced gay stereotypes in media. However, I kind of feel like you’re assuming some things are gay or had some sort of agenda when they’re not.
Arcane didn't have an agenda. But League? I mean, Udyr and Lee Sin? You're telling Sejuani's Freljordian father likes D? Yeah, the fan service weirdos (who do have agendas) have taken over the IP and are making their fantasies canon. That is Melonie's point.
i’m not gay but why does it bother u so much?? cait and vi are literally a couple in the game and the fact that you’re so bothered by it is actually hilarious 🤣🤣
It was even worse when they made Graves and TF (actual friends turned enemies) gay. They made these guys a gay couple. Like WTF, they're supposed to hate each other.
Notice how the male character gets stripped almost half naked out of his armor in the cinematic, but all the female champs have gotten desexualized redesigns that barely show any skin anymore.
Try mention that Leblanc looks shitty from this cinematic anywhere and you'll have a million weirdos jump in saying "What you prefer her ugly outdated stripper design??? gooner" Yes, I prefer designs on characters that play up to them being good to look at, that goes for any champ in any game. Riot out here trying to be the next Concord of character designs.
Kata's legs looked fine. I think that's a good parallel. I really doubt they'll double down on wokeness considering how huge of a market they have in China.
In my opinion, and I fkng hate woke crap, Elise, Katarina and Mel look really pretty and sexy, they look very hot and very accurate to their reality. The thing about LeBlanc is that she's older than she looks in the game right now, I don't say she looks better in the cinematic but it makes sense when you see her like an older woman in her late 30's. What Melonie sais about Vi, Cait and Jinx in Arcane I think is true, specially Cait, all her sex appeal dessapears in Arcane, she doesn't look like a sexy police anymore.
you know, there's a incident with a UA-camr by the name of Streetwise Rhapsody. So he was a playing a game called Weathering Waves, I think everyone may know it? He was getting backlash because, if I remember correctly, he didn't switch to a female male main character, coz they want to see the female main character have some sort of "romantic" interaction with the female characters of WuWa. In Weathering Waves, you can pick from male or female character. This is just absolutely ridiculous. Heck, they even said that Acheron from Honkai: Star Rail is lesbian. I mean, how do they know? The creator and the devs didn't confirm anything yet people are already saying this and that
@donarthunaraz9361 gooners + troons it's something Melonie coined on her last stream. It's really gay people that see characters they like and make them gay to pander to themselves.
Udyr is not fat, he's just not trimmed. Really big guys usually don't have abs even if they're strong. And Vi and Cait have been hinted to be a couple for a long time by now. Jayce and Viktor however was never even close to that, that's just stupid.
Cait and Vi is what it is. What triggers me more than anything is the arcane community trying to force Jayce/Viktor into a gay relationship. Like..no lol. They are brothers in the most brotherly loving sense you can have. It's as if brotherhood between men is non existent now. You're either gay or not. 🙄
The largely femcel fanbase will ship Jayce and Viktor, (no semblance of a gay relationship), will simultaneously call others who ship female characters together, or lesbian characters with a man, or just any man who says they like a lesbian character (for any reason at all), call them weird, incels and fetishisers. The complete lack of their own self awareness amazes me. They will gatekeep liking characters yet at the same time promote and champion inclusivity and diversity.
Yep it's 15 years worth of cinematics, comic books, side games, and the base lore for champions gets updated when the champs get reworked. Warwick has had 3 other origin stories before his current one which is shown in arcane. He used to be besties with singed
Gaming for some years has been extremely woke. When I was noticing it was around 2017. The other night, I played Army of Two, a game I haven't touched since it came out when I originally beat it, and I forgot how Chad-like the characters were. As a gay guy, I LOVE playing hot dudes, so I was taken aback honestly because all these modern games have men that look like women and women that look like men. It's gross and off putting. Also, I would like to say that these developers/publishers employ people that align 100% with what we are seeing in the entertainment sector. While we may be frustrated or annoyed by it, the truth is Kevin the farmer from the mid west isn't looking to work at these companies. Masc type men just aren't running to warm the seats at these companies anymore. They are picking up trade work/construction, etc. The art style of the games today speak for themselves in terms of who the artists are.
I've always thought that people should just put their money where their mouth is and either venture into said space or build their own that either caters to the audience or at least challenges these companies' half-asked approach. Of course, should is shit. That said, I prefer playing women, not just because of the obvious, but the cornered mouse dynamic where they're far more savage and have no decorum in armed conflict, knowing full well their relative physical disadvantage. I'll look up Army of Two at any rate.
I never thought about this, but I can understand why non-Communist LGBTQ people hate wokeness as well. I hope you are the majority, and you should let your voice heard more frequently!
I agree, I've been saying this for years! Riot should keep lgbtq non sense out of league, when they introduced heart seeker skins I uninstalled league of legends right away why couldn't they left things the way they were when we had heterosexual relationships in league and none of that gay garbage
Honestly, I love Arcane so much. Imo, it isn’t worth ruining the show for yourself by emphasizing the whole gay aspect of it (I understand that it’s thrown in your face) but it’s really as simple as [+10] [+10] [+10] and you’re back to enjoying the masterpiece which is Arcane.
@@tyranuel I'm saying you shouldn't be proud that your game thrives through toxicity and gatekeeping. What's the point? Online Games are suppose to be fun, not full of men telling kids to kys over a digital character then making videos calling other fanbases bad
*Preemptive note* This is NO reflection on you, MM. Is there ever any GOOD news for you to bring us in video games? Like I say, this isn’t your fault. I just wish we could see something positive in gaming once in a while.
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (created by displaced devs of Ubisoft) looks promising and the veteran devs that were ousted from CDPR have formed their own studio. Rebel Wolves.
@@julitakamaki4386 Clair Obscur looks like a really cool game. I am preventing myself from getting excited in case it turns out to be more alphabet nonsense.
Convoluting fanon and canon in such a weird way only adds up to the perception that you are just an homophobic pick me. Yes, the fandom has a problem and yes, Arcane sucks at its overall portrayal of Leauge lore. That does not take away from the fact that Riot has a very present problem with queer representation (specially male) and that shipping two pixels doesn't have to follow canon. The problem comes when people purposefully erase canon and spews shit about it (happened just now with KataGaren the same it happened two months ago when people started to erase Ekko's bisexuality)
So this whole rant is based off one tweet? Like sure some people are idiots and just want gay relationships everywhere all the time but I think for the most part people don't think like this.
« Vi wasn’t a lesbian » babe, did you listen to Vi and Caitlyn lines when they came out in league??? Even with Miss Fortune? « Vi I should have brought flowers -Ah! Try Cupcakes » Anyway, happy that lol and arcane are more gay than ever, your homophobia is showing. Cope ❤️
Varus's backstory was changed in late 2017, and the first LGBT character was Neeko, released in 2018. Since then, queer concepts have been added to several existing characters. I'm pretty sure that all characters released before 2017 were not originally queer. Can you argue?
Am I the only one who likes Jinx more as she was in LOL as this unhinged unpredictable guncrazy joker/junkrat like psycho before arcane and thought that the sad sob story made her lame, no fun and just uncompelling?
I disagree. For the game the Joker/Harley persona is fine but... you know, in a story characters need growth. Not to mention they deeply explored Jinx's mental health struggle in a mature, sensitive way. They can't keep her personality frozen as an unhinged crazy lunatic without coming off as dissonant at best, insulting at worst.
How can something as shitty as LOL be ruined? And also Arcane is shit too, which has the art style used which is beautiful, but the story... I wouldn't wipe my ass with the script because I don't want to get dirty with more shit.
I’m a person who generally hates the actual fanbases that I technically belong to. Tourists are even worse than cringe fanboys who actually know their lore.
I have to say I started to roll my eyes with all the Jayce Victor stuff, Having said that even though it's not canon I kind of liked the Jinx Ekko teasing dynamic. The Timebomb thing. Jinx and Ekko in a straight relationship,boy that got a lot of Star Guardian fans upset. So that got me all for Jinx and Ekko Dynamic all the more. LOL.
@@Billy-bc8pk Because they had already formed a community shipping Jinx with Lux, another character from League of Legends (not in Arcane). Jinx and Lux are friends in the Star Guardian universe, and shipping Jinx with Ekko made many of them furious.
8:39 Hold on, hold on, because I distinctly remember that Riot didn't officially confirm that Vi and Jinx were sisters until Arcane came out. Like yeah, that was speculation amongst the fans, but it wasn't outright confirmed until Arcane. But I do agree with you that shippers ruin everything they touch. I kinda do like the direction they took with Jinx though from a storytelling perspective. Mostly because I like how they explored her character a bit more and gave her more depth. I think the closest thing we got to that prior to Arcane was her comic with Ziggs (Paint the Town) where she briefly felt remorse over the idea that innocent people may have gotten hurt in her explosion. She actually said "Um... is this what feeling bad feels like?" And that's the closest thing she got to some sort of introspection/character growth. Not that I don't like the funny, quirky Harley Quinn vibes she had going on though. It WAS a lot of fun. But seeing how Harley Quinn is currently being treated in comics (Ie the fart fetish comic) I just feel like writers tend to not really know where to take a character like that a lot of the times. So I don't mind the development that Arcane gave to Jinx. In my opinion, it made her a lot more interesting from a character and storytelling perspective. Although, I don't like how they treated her in season 2. That third act was abysmal. What even were they thinking with having CaitVi getting it on in Jinx's depression cell and then completely skipping over Jinx's suicidal recovery with Ekko? That entire plot point was shafted to something that happened off screen. And then the ending where Jinx sacrifices herself and fakes her death (The writers confirmed she's still alive) to "end the cycle" like... is the message SUPPOSED to be that mentally ill people are a burden on the people around them and that they should just erase themselves from the equation to make everyone's lives better? Was that supposed to be the takeaway? Awful. Jinx deserved better. Also, IS Udyr fat? When I think of fat, I think of Gragas. But Udyr to me kind of looks more like... sort of samoan powerlifter. Like a strongman versus a bodybuilder. Udyr to me seems like he has a strongman body type.
Lefties only know how to write nihilism. Think about it. Jinx had no future. Cait and Vi have no future (and can't start an organic family). And ultimately their stories are almost all about nihilism. The Last Of Us 2 was the exact same way -- it's about erasing lineages (Ellie being a full blown Taco Hunter despite being the only one immune to the vegetable zombies, so no offspring and no hope for humanity). They did the same thing with Horizon. Almost all of their stories are about lineage-ending nihilism when you look at them from their top-level concepts.
@ Yeah, and it’s honestly such a massive shame to see. I miss the stories that end on a hopeful note. Heck, a perfect character for that would have been Ekko, who’s entire theme is hope! I mean, he rounded up all of the orphans and people displaced by Silco’s drug empire and brought them to the firelight tree. The tree in it of itself is meant to represent hope as it’s the one place in Zaun that’s actually capable of growing a tree that large and giving the people of Zaun clean, fresh air and sunlight. Whereas the rest of Zaun is plagued by bad air and shade. So you have Ekko saving Jinx from suicide (off screen 🙄) and then you have Ekko literally saving the day by throwing the Z-drive at Viktor and how does he end up? Well, half the firelights were killed in that war with Ambessa and Jinx has faked her own death and left altogether. So Ekko is just all alone and he gets ZERO reward for being the MVP of the show. It’s so unsatisfying.
Agreed, particularly on Jinx. There are rumours there's another project to continue Jinx and Ekko's story and close these gaps in their story, but even if true it will be years before anything is released
"ruined league"
yeah who's gonna tell her
shes right in every way the toxic league is the league we want cuzz i dont wanna see valorant energy in league i bet in 2030 will be more gay characters than normal character
@@Boshin there are over 150 champs in the game. like 6 of them are gay, relax.
@@Boshin "i bet in 2030 will be more gay characters than normal character"
Sounds like a great plan! Let's make the "straight" identifying characters the odd ones out for a change
@@Boshin tell me... how many champions in league are queer out of all 169 of them
@@Boshin and whats wrong.with that,? Sounds like you.are imsercure.
"Boys are gonna love this"
Like this is bare minimum pandering. You can hear the insincerity in her voice bro lol
I quit playing league in high school and I’ll be 30 next year. I think arcane is an amazing show and who tf cares if vi is gay. Im more of a conservative myself and I have no idea why you’re ranting about this. League isn’t a good game anyways. Arcane is a good show though.
Same! I'm not a liberal but Arcane wasn't really bad as she makes it look like. Season 2 was just a bit rushed, that's only issue i have and gay stuffs were never my concern. I used to play LoL for years in the high school. The reason why I quit was because game gone really bad long before Arcane happened. WoW is arguably better than LoL. I knew what was Riot Games doing when Arcane first released. They were clearly trying to retrieve the popularity of LoL. I'm glad that it failed to bring new fans to LoL. Deserved! 😂
That’s what I’m saying! It’s literally as simple as
[+10] [+10] [+10]
@@morbidgirl6808 The game got 30 million new players. WE are currently having 300 million monhtly palyers. I dont think you are correct here.
Agree 100%. Who cares? It is such a non-issue ...
There's this thing called grass, it grows outside. I think they have that stuff in league too but it looks a bit different out there. It's easy to find and feels nice to run your hands through.
Your first mistake was playing leauge of legends be so fr
Hate to break it to ya but I'm pretty sure the Caitlin and Vi thing has been a thing in lol canon for a long time.
Yeah not confirmed but has been heavily suggested for a while.
@@kainnak it was confirmed in a lot of artwork actually
@cherryaenue fan art, maybe, there has never been official art confirming any relationships outside of them existing in the same universe. Even Graves and TF haven't had official artwork of them being gay.
@@kainnak yes they have, have you not seen what the offical accounts posted? they have been hinted at for a while, the show just made it canon
@cherryaenue yep seen almost all and can't recall anything confirming the relationship beyond a shadow of a doubt. There has been art that may suggest, but nothing confirming.
people in real life: hi how are you
Yall care too much💀
fr when is it ever this serious ahahha
LoL who've had queer relationships for YEARS:
I love Arcane but can't stand when nearly every fan of the show looks for a gay relationship between Victor, and Jayce when that was never even hinted at. Especially when Jayce said Victor was like a brother to him.
Literally! Not to mention, Viktor is more machine than man. A ship like that, even if it /was/ hinted at, would be doomed to fail from the start as Vik isn't capable of those kinds of feelings. Plus, as I saw someone on Instagram point out, it's honestly harmful to society to constantly be finding ships between platonic characters. Bc it erases the fact that intimate FRIENDSHIPS do exist irl & romanticizes EVERYTHING (gay or straight, it doesn't matter).
These same people tried to make Cap and Bucky gay, and Sam and Frodo. Nevermind that both Cap and Sam went on to marry women.
@@laracroftstan "Viktor is more machine than man" you truly didn't get Viktor's character at all
@@lucylu184 Viktor from League of Legends is working toward that.
These folks have zero clue what male friendship and brotherhood are.
Imagine being 38 n saying stupid shi like that
„I’m not homophobic but…”
She’s clearly not scared of gays so your comment sucks.
It's nice to see an adequate person here.
and?
She never supported that to begin with
@@steveosborn7224melonie isn’t scared, but you are lol
This is such a none issue LMAO
At some point they'll update the name to League of Lesbians.
😂😂😂
HAHA
With an emphasis on the "L".
More like League of LGBTQIA++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sounds like a.....well~
“It is too gay” in our year of 2025???
league of legends was alr bad, a couple people on twitter headcanoning a character as a lesbian is not “ruining” the game 😭
Its not "a couple people on twitter" its litteraly in riot games headcanon. People are just fangirling over something that is ACTUALLY in the lore
These characters ain't gay in China though lmao
Nor in the Middle East XD
ah what happened?!
sarcasm
And the characters aren’t black either. China censors everything. This isn’t a flex.
China is less Communist now than America, LMAO.
@@bigstronkgorl2138Compared to what US is doing, it is a flex.
Arcane was great, Vi and Caitlyn was a good build-up.
Vi looked great, she's a Fighter.. Of course she would be jacked and still sexy.
As someone who doesn't support a lot of the woke nonsense, you're wrong about Arcane.
anyways i love elise x katarina
Yall weird asf💀
@@rimahaddad1976 why... garen and katarina are not canon
@@123forafurryit might seem crazy what I’m boutta say but
They actually are
@@Speedingclovers 😂😂😂
@@Bercovani-777 was i funny for being right?
You guys are infamously one of the most toxic fan bases in existence, to the point where people won’t even play the game after watching the show. I don’t think there’s anything left to ‘ruin’ at this point
0:13 Whoa whoa whoa, hang on. Arcane has _not_ spoiled the League of Legends community. The League of Legends community spoiled the League of Legends community. All of the people who play that game are either terrible at it and they're assholes about it, or they're good at the game and they're assholes about it, or they're the embodiment of the meme of the dog sitting in the flaming house saying "this is fine."
toxic community is better than gay community
Yeah but now all the they/them shippers who hang out with minors on discord have joined in the mix 😂
At least they ain't tourist
Yet, it's not fixing the problem
No No, There is a the Arcane fandom and then there is the League of Legends Community. This is about the Arcane Fandom vs the League of Legends Lore Community. All it looks like that the Arcane fandom is becoming the Gay Shipping side that everyone doesnt talk about or vocally doesnt like. So when they insert themselves into things that involves everyone like cinematics, their sensitivity will be tested because the League Community is not kind at all
I'm beginning to think you're screaming at a wall? Like having one gay couple in a show, updating some dated character designs and like 1-2 comments about headcanoning Katarina as gay didn't ruin league. League has been a toxic dempsterfire for years. Not to mention, you have a clear bias in this discussion, given your past actions of clear homophobia. You're incapable of giving an objective argument, this is nothing but personal bias
League has been ruined for like a decade.
nobody told her LMAO
Talk about it. The cognitive dissonance with this chick is off the charts.
fun fact riot said that the show failed to bring more fans to league of legends
thank god for that else shampoo companies boutta go bankrupt
The damage its already done, they removed and censored many sexy skins for adapt the game to Arcane, the game its woke now.
@@skyuru still the playerbase will never change and will never shower
The Arcane tourists are not capable to handle the chat during a match XD They would yeet themselves
Off topic but were they ever gay?
Hahahaha. They give smash players a run for their money. If not, they're are on the same field.
I still like Arcane. ;__;
I completely agree. it’s really as simple as [+10] [+10] [+10] and you’re back to enjoying the masterpiece that is Arcane
As a fan, you really deserved better than the story Season 2 gave you.
The title of this video is a lie. League of Legends ruined League of Legends.
The fans are also a bunch of wokies who only want to push their bs
Sure mate ... We ve been told that league is ruined for almost 10 years and the game is still going better than ever .
@@Butter-keks85 That's not what he's saying. He's saying that the players made it whack not some gay characters, man.
Case in point.
@@jackspratt7264 sure mate , that s why you re saying the same stuff we have been hearing for almost 10 years and yet league is still as successful as ever . Try to be original for once .
@@Butter-keks85 Bro, what are you talking about, man? Are you mentally challenged?
Nobody is questioning or denying League's success. That's not even what the conversation is about.
I disagree with your comments about Jinx, Vi, Udyr and Leblanc.
1) Before Arcane, Jinx was the classic Harley Queen and had no depth. And this Harley Queen things are boring today. But Arcane made her one of the best charachter ever written.
2) Vi being muscular makes sense. Her whole thing is punching things. She must have strong arms right??
Arcane tries to be as realistic as possible.
3) I think it makes sense that Udyr is fat. He is not fully fat tho. More like caveman physics. And in a place like Freljord it makes sense. Freljord is so cold and It is very important to eat fatty foods in cold weather. He's living in the forest. You can't expect perfect physics from a person living in such a place like that.
And I know he is running so much in game but in lore his strenght more important than his speed. (My man can crushing rocks with his fists. And as you can see his "Spirit Guard" skin has more clean physics. Guess why? Because in that skin-line he stayed in the Ionia. The zone of Peace. Very diffirent from Freljord)
4) Arcane made Leblanc BETTER. Her old model is sucks. She is over +1000 thousand years old and she is a manipulator and master tactician. But her old model doesn't feel that way. LoR made her better but I prefer her newest model. I love her lore so much.
Don't get me wrong. I don't like this attitude of some people either. But I think it's not Arcane's fault, it's people who like that. League has 170 champs right know. How many of them are homosexual? 10? 15? (In short, not that much)
S2 took Vi's tough attitude and made her a poor puppy who had no agency. That's the greatest sin.
Sadly these days Western devs are so woke that their games are more propaganda gay than a real game.
Since the first season they adapted the game to Arcane and censored every sexy skins and make VI as a men, instead to adapt the series to the game they just trashed and transformed in to uglyest g*y show lol
What both pathetic and ridiculous is that they think there the good guys by forcing these dei crap and pushing alphabet stuff in to this and this will make people be more accepting but it does the opposite. By pushing and forcing stuff like alphabet stuff into these media or changing established to be gay, bi, lesbian or whatever it makes people hate them because it not makes no sense but you have the stupid crazies with pronouns and stuff will attack you and be psychotic which make people hate them even more. It pathetic. Not every show or media needs to be diverse or have alphabet stuff in it. Especially when it doesn't make sense
Poor Katarina
Which is why I’m so glad Disney outsourced Marvel Rivals to a Chinese dev. Yes the game has censorship (try typing I love Taiwan), but at least the marvel characters actually look like their iconic comic counter parts, I’m not guessing what gender they are, and it’s actually fun
@@Lawrence_Talbotand they not made some of the characters into race swap or gender, or uglyfing it.
Hot take, to me Udyr is not fat. Dude looks like a straight up power lifter and he looks bad ass.
Yeah his rework was awesome, for her being a lore nerd she didn't bring up the fact he is Bi-sexual with the rework lol
Also the fact that he lives in the FROZEN wilds. He needs all that extra muscle to stay warm.
He looks more like a gay porn actor
Do you think people like this chick care? They don't know jack shit about human strength and physiology.
Just say it, you're against any gay or lesbian characters. Even if the story and build up was done well.
She'll say anything to get that dick.
Okay we are🤪. I don’t mind Ian Gallagher though. I like him.
@@unknownsoldier6731 then maybe fix yourself?
Yes we are. What’s your point?
Season 2's story was shit, actually. Your token lesbian couple was shown having sex in the same jail cell where unwashed Jinx sat for an untold amount of time. Her fucking sister, Vi, also ignores her suicidal state in the process.
If this is the "story" and representation you call good, then TV is doomed for ever.
As someone who likes all of Arcane, I 100% agree that the Arcane fanbase, or the "Arcane onlys" are a toxic poison to the greater LoL fanbase. Pure toxic gay shipping trash and socially inept morons. And the "Welcome to Noxus" cinematic was amazing from beginning to end. Top lane rep, Elise vs Katarina was gorgeous, and LeBlanc and Vladimir and Mel all look fantastic.
They went through extreme breast size reductions though. It's like an animator thought the Jinx boobs are the standard and now all females get the Jinx reduction treatment.
@@Chraan Personally I think Mel is exposed enough with her new fit, then Katerina and Elise awesome honestly. Big/Small knockers are the least of my concern.
@@GypsyDangerOW Honestly in real life I always start laughing when I see women with small tits but try to expose as much as they can, which is still nothing. Mel is not an original LoL character, so I didn't count her, but it's a crime that they crippled the rest. What's with that body shaming on big tits?
Its mostly the other way around
So you’re saying one is a ‘toxic poison’ to another poison that came before that. It’s league, crazy stuff is bound to come out anyways and most of the time it’s the players
it not even Arcane Fans it just weirdo who are fake fans they see go into popular thing and try change it like remember when my hero academia first came out, and there was no weird shit then my hero academia went mainstream and all sudden these weirdo come out of nowhere and start drawing gay shit even threat the studio and the create of manga make everyone gay and it the same with Arcane, I bet all my money those people don't even play the game
Remember when Mineta, the resident pervert from My Hero Academia, began clutching the main dude's legs in a teary-eyed, impassioned plea for him to get a hold of himself after behaving strangely throughout one episode? It was a response to strange behavior, mind you. However, the journo press misfired or hastened to speculate that Mineta was now at least bisexual despite no history of such inclinations (his attention was purely on chicks).
So, I don't think it was fake fans. It was just very loud fans, amplified by the indiscretions of a permissive wing of media, who then rang in the ears of impressionable artists and marketers at the company. The latter then capitulated in ways that are detrimental to their vision, the initial fans' assessment of League and Hero, and their ability to reel in new audiences while retaining the old guard.
If it was fake fans, then it's viral marketing, but then we'd see some receipts emerge. You know, community managers influencing forum opinion-making--that kind of thing. I don't think a bunch of mid-management types could get away with telling their PR networks to emphasize "the gay" without first consulting with the authors first. Unless, of course, the authors felt pressured into changing their vision. Tragic, either way.
yeah because the game is shit and has a really toxic fanbase. who cares that they're creating gay fanart, it's fanart. it can't hurt you.
@@hello-lz4xj This is until the moment they make a fanart of Vi and Jayse for example, then it can bring a cross, right?
Facts
Yeah everyone thought mha was good until that happened now its known for its fanbase
Arcane S1 massively increased my interest in LOL and it's lore, Arcane S2 killed my interest in League...
it should have started sooner.
Yeah, same here 😢 But there still hope!! As long as Alex Yee and Christian Linke are still the co-creators of the next show. Amanda Overton ruined everything
@@Waynezxc-u1f how?
EDIT: i mean like how did Amanda ruin everything?
You are really a guy with original opinions and definitely not someone that mindlessly follows trends.
@@Waynezxc-u1fsur Amanda , the person who wrote the best scenes and the best episodes of the show ruined it ... Go to sleep ...
In my opinion, Arcane is the new Avatar. A lot people praised the heck out of it, and I can respect that, but I just don't see the appeal, in the first place. Even my cousin tried to get me to watch it and I just repeatedly say that its not my cup of tea. Maybe I'm too judgmental but its just how I feel.
Maybe this is a new avatar, but after reviewing these projects, Avatar is much more interesting and a more developed world of this series than the Arcane. There are many details there that are being praised by the arcane today in the same way.
avatar the movie or atla? arcane is honestly really great, the first season had some great buildup and I wish they focused more on the sisters and the repeating cycle compared to silco and vander.
@@hello-lz4xj a TV series about Aang. I think the project is still the best. And the best in the plot and in the elaboration of the universe.
to be fair, League of Legends was ruined a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago
I clicked on this video because I thought it was going to have good points, but its just a bunch of homophobic shit. So what, there was a tweet, it was a JOKE, jeez man.
With every online game, the majority of fans seem to be obsessed with making everyone gay, look at Overwatch.
Season 2 was genuinely so boring, I couldn't finish the last 3 episodes
I'm not a League player. A friend was really amped about the series so I checked it out, but I got bored and turned it off a few episodes in. Considering the reaction Season 2 got (even my amped up buddy hated it), I'm glad I didn't invest myself in it. I love animated stuff normally, but couldn't even bring myself to watch all the episodes I downloaded.
@@John_Smith_ReturnsI am that amped up buddy for most and I can't explain it but somehow I was never interested in Arcane
Season 1 was genuinely so boring, I couldn't finish the last 2 episodes
I recommend watching the rest, you’ll love it
If you found s2 boring, you must have some incredibly shit taste for entertainment lmao
list out some stuff you enjoy, please, I'm genuinely curious
The LGBT fan base in League of Legends is so damn rabid. But it’s Riot’s doing for catering to it. I also quit when the game went full gay.
based
Just quit the game, anti cheat program is mining your data.
Haha loser minority crying
It was a joke from a random page. Yall are literally insane.
@@bigstronkgorl2138 you’re who Mel’s talking about in the video
NO MORE EGGS. DO NOT REDEEM.
jayce and viktor being gay was always a joke before arcane was around for years. whats next? ezreal is gay with Taric? i wouldnt even be surprised if that becomes a real thing at this point.
My standards are incredibly low. I'm impressed they didn't give Leblanc a California jawline.
Her head and jawline is a fucking square
You're almost 40 years old.. Give ts a rest..
Are you scared? 👀
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Shippers are a menace to society.
These same femcel shippers will ship straight men like Jayce and Viktor yet call you all names under the sun if you ship 2 straight women or a lesbian with a man. The double standard and no self awareness is crazy.
No they arent
They barely qualify as shippers. Shippers made fanart and fanfiction. These people are activists that do nothing but CONSUME and DEMAND their fantasies be made reality. Actual shippers of olden days are perfectly content to play in their own sandbox, despite what's canon or not. It's the difference of kids playing with the toys happily, by themselves, making up their own fantastic stories, and kids smashing toys on the ground and throwing the pieces at others because the other kids don't like their petty rules or games.
*FINALLY!* Someone else said it!
@@thsxi Are they confirmed straight?
It's okay. Just drink some water and calm down.
Let's be honest, Arcane was produced to retrieve the popularity of LoL. I've played that game for years and it already went downhill long before Arcane happened. I'm against woke stuffs but I'm not gonna sit here to lie about what ruined LoL. I liked Arcane but season 2 was bit rushed and it's still good to me. I don't understand why would "gay stuffs" scare you 😂
"Arcane Fans Have Ruined League"
Pick Me girl doesn't understand that the post was joking and not serious.
League of legends has been ruined for a while and let me tell you it is definitely not the arcane fandoms fault the lol fanbase is honestly kinda disgusting on how they treat new players
Why can’t we just have a good story!?
wdym?
@ You know what I mean. Why can’t we just have a good story and not have their bullshit agenda pushed in our face?
Because for the Left, EVERYTHING is politics, and every platform they use for PROPAGANDA. We need to ban the Left from the entertainment (and our life altogether) for good.
We did. Arcane was a great story
@@Omegeddon facts
Oh dear, are people making their own versions of fictional characters? That's not what entertainment is for! The government should decide all details of a character, and no fan art and fan depictions are allowed!
What a sour video, that simply asks that all fun be taken away from people because Riot themselves didn't create it.
that’s not what this is about though, people can do whatever the hell they want with fictional characters- the problem is when these people become so insufferable and try to force everyone to have the same opinions as them, and they’d attack you if you reject their own verizon of a certain character, it’s such a toxic behavior
@@crystal2967 if you "reject" it? What do you mean? Are you going around saying whether someone's art is cannon or not? if so I totally understand why people get angry at you because everyone knows it's not cannon and no one cares.
@@Xethl Funny enough, the studio who created my hero academia and attack on titan got "bad wishes" by "fans" as soon as as anime became mainstream and it all started from fanart.🤷🏻
@@FreaknFrets thata just anime gatekeeping, I'm not sure what the relevance is
@@Xethl phrasing, both anime I mentioned had no problem with gender and when anime become mainstream, the new fans (and shipper) sending "ill wish" to the studio because there is no rainbow relationship.
Everything now must include lgbt or those people will tantrum
And it all started from shipping or those kind of fanart
Make it gay and lame!
*sigh*, they truly were pretty accurate with that episode, huh...
So the problem wasn’t that gay characters were forced, even when they are meant to be gay and it’s well written you don’t want gays. At least the truth of who you people really are show up at some point : )
"put a chick in it and make her gay!"
@yabara_ "You people"?
@SetnaktSpears who thinks like the comment I replied to
they dont care about lore or chemistery, they just want it to be gay
giving the same vibe as this boy and girl should kiss because they are both blonde ahh
Oh yes
2 characters meant to be gay and well written
The problems is not they don’t care about lore, is that you just don’t want gays
Um actually they do. But whatever. Theres chem with vi and caitlyn. But ok jerk. Show ur true colors
So jayce and mel was okay, but Vi and Caitlyn that were always meant to be together not. I see what you really mean...
@yabara_ I'm talking about elise and katerina smarty pants
Ain’t no way fictional characters and fan head canons have y’all crashing out on the internet at y’all big age 😭
8:20 Longtime League player here. YOU are the one throwing around labels, making it seem woke-r than it is, not the show.
Vi being a lesbian doesn’t cancel out the rest of her character. She doesn’t even mention being a lesbian, not once! Aside from kissing and forming a relationship with Caitlyn, her sexuality never interfered with the rest of her “story role”; so what characterization are we losing through the adaptation? Haven’t Vi and Cait always flirted with each other in the game?
You make it seem as though Vi looked into the camera to spew propaganda. All she did was kiss a girl, because she likes girls.
This is like if they adapted Ionian lore and portrayed Rakan and Xayah as a couple… because they are. Like how Caitlyn and Vi are cop partners that are interested in each other.
Btw I’m not denying that Vi and Caitlyn are both lesbians respectively. However it is fact that labels and sexuality is NEVER brought up in Arcane.
Lol oh no the gays liked arcane wah wah wah 😂 this screams "i can't consume lol content because the gays have their own opinions and head canons and fan fiction and instead of not consuming those I'm gunna be homophobic on the internet" LMAO
I remember you ranting about Udyr in a video :)
Remember, Riot lost money on Arcane. They're chasing an audience that doesn't exist.
Where the hell did you get that riot lost money on arcane ?
@@Butter-keks85 From every article that was written about it.
@@Butter-keks85 According to Riot themselves.
But, hey, maybe you know better?
@christianclark347 according to riot themselves what ? Did you read what tryndamere posted ? Let me guess you didn't and went straight for the clickbait videos because it made you feel all warm and fuzzy inside
@@Butter-keks85 Take your meds, schizoid.
piltover's finest ❤ piltover's finest ❤ piltover's finest ❤
someone living off the land woulda been even skinnier than he originally was, the rework really doesnt make any sense
Felt really weird when Jinx was having suicidal thoughts meanwhile VI is making out with Caitlin and more, no wonder she a terrible sister
She clearly did not know Jinx would do that
@@Katriiify she would have to be stupid to not know that. Jinx was at her most unstable, anyone would have known she was up to no good
@@Of_infinite_Faith How could she have known about Jinx's mental state when she was stuck in jail for 7 years. After they reunited again at the end of S2 Vi didn't say anything about what happened to Jinx because she did not know what happened to her. If she did, she'd have obviously said something about it.
There are absolutely no hints that show that she was aware of what's happening.
This is your conclusion, and that's fine.
Brooo she came to get her and then jinx locked her in a cell how is she a terrible sister what more was she supposed to do
2011 league is not that league u have today,not that company,not that story,not that vibe
i quit LoL and now playin Dota
you guys are so fricking boring and serious about EVERYTHING. Chill, it’s fictional and no one is touching your pixels bruh💀
It’s a good day when we get a rant from Melonie Mac.
Always nice to tune in for another yap session lol
You just need your dose of stupid, don't you?
Yes another pick me rant
This video was wild to me. I understand the dislike of excessively gay stuff. I genuinely dislike a lot of the forced gay stereotypes in media. However, I kind of feel like you’re assuming some things are gay or had some sort of agenda when they’re not.
Arcane didn't have an agenda. But League? I mean, Udyr and Lee Sin? You're telling Sejuani's Freljordian father likes D? Yeah, the fan service weirdos (who do have agendas) have taken over the IP and are making their fantasies canon. That is Melonie's point.
lol this whole video is basically "I liked it when all the characters were shallow and one dimensional"
i’m not gay but why does it bother u so much?? cait and vi are literally a couple in the game and the fact that you’re so bothered by it is actually hilarious 🤣🤣
It was even worse when they made Graves and TF (actual friends turned enemies) gay. They made these guys a gay couple. Like WTF, they're supposed to hate each other.
even in cinematic they censored and "changed" a billion things compared to the original desighn
Notice how the male character gets stripped almost half naked out of his armor in the cinematic, but all the female champs have gotten desexualized redesigns that barely show any skin anymore.
Try mention that Leblanc looks shitty from this cinematic anywhere and you'll have a million weirdos jump in saying "What you prefer her ugly outdated stripper design??? gooner" Yes, I prefer designs on characters that play up to them being good to look at, that goes for any champ in any game. Riot out here trying to be the next Concord of character designs.
Kata's legs looked fine. I think that's a good parallel. I really doubt they'll double down on wokeness considering how huge of a market they have in China.
In my opinion, and I fkng hate woke crap, Elise, Katarina and Mel look really pretty and sexy, they look very hot and very accurate to their reality. The thing about LeBlanc is that she's older than she looks in the game right now, I don't say she looks better in the cinematic but it makes sense when you see her like an older woman in her late 30's. What Melonie sais about Vi, Cait and Jinx in Arcane I think is true, specially Cait, all her sex appeal dessapears in Arcane, she doesn't look like a sexy police anymore.
Mel and Katarina are desexualized. Okaaaaay, re you lying, delusional or retarded?
@@JulitoRM why its so important That characters look sexy? That’s some creepy obsession you all got
you know, there's a incident with a UA-camr by the name of Streetwise Rhapsody. So he was a playing a game called Weathering Waves, I think everyone may know it? He was getting backlash because, if I remember correctly, he didn't switch to a female male main character, coz they want to see the female main character have some sort of "romantic" interaction with the female characters of WuWa. In Weathering Waves, you can pick from male or female character. This is just absolutely ridiculous. Heck, they even said that Acheron from Honkai: Star Rail is lesbian. I mean, how do they know? The creator and the devs didn't confirm anything yet people are already saying this and that
I hate the fact that the trooners had si much influence over Arcane. It’s really gross. 🤮
They’re taking over the lore, man. Diana and Leona went gay too. Fuck it.
@@xilh42TF and Graves too
What are trooners??
@donarthunaraz9361 gooners + troons it's something Melonie coined on her last stream. It's really gay people that see characters they like and make them gay to pander to themselves.
@@donarthunaraz9361 Similar to a gooner I would imagine, just different demographic.
Udyr is not fat, he's just not trimmed. Really big guys usually don't have abs even if they're strong. And Vi and Cait have been hinted to be a couple for a long time by now. Jayce and Viktor however was never even close to that, that's just stupid.
Cait and Vi is what it is. What triggers me more than anything is the arcane community trying to force Jayce/Viktor into a gay relationship.
Like..no lol. They are brothers in the most brotherly loving sense you can have. It's as if brotherhood between men is non existent now. You're either gay or not. 🙄
The largely femcel fanbase will ship Jayce and Viktor, (no semblance of a gay relationship), will simultaneously call others who ship female characters together, or lesbian characters with a man, or just any man who says they like a lesbian character (for any reason at all), call them weird, incels and fetishisers. The complete lack of their own self awareness amazes me. They will gatekeep liking characters yet at the same time promote and champion inclusivity and diversity.
I'm guessing League of Legends must have a ton of lore and storytelling behind every single character behind the game.. 🤔 Now that's interesting.
Yep it's 15 years worth of cinematics, comic books, side games, and the base lore for champions gets updated when the champs get reworked. Warwick has had 3 other origin stories before his current one which is shown in arcane. He used to be besties with singed
Why would show watchers and rpg gamers associate?
Gaming for some years has been extremely woke. When I was noticing it was around 2017. The other night, I played Army of Two, a game I haven't touched since it came out when I originally beat it, and I forgot how Chad-like the characters were. As a gay guy, I LOVE playing hot dudes, so I was taken aback honestly because all these modern games have men that look like women and women that look like men. It's gross and off putting. Also, I would like to say that these developers/publishers employ people that align 100% with what we are seeing in the entertainment sector. While we may be frustrated or annoyed by it, the truth is Kevin the farmer from the mid west isn't looking to work at these companies. Masc type men just aren't running to warm the seats at these companies anymore. They are picking up trade work/construction, etc. The art style of the games today speak for themselves in terms of who the artists are.
I've always thought that people should just put their money where their mouth is and either venture into said space or build their own that either caters to the audience or at least challenges these companies' half-asked approach.
Of course, should is shit.
That said, I prefer playing women, not just because of the obvious, but the cornered mouse dynamic where they're far more savage and have no decorum in armed conflict, knowing full well their relative physical disadvantage. I'll look up Army of Two at any rate.
I never thought about this, but I can understand why non-Communist LGBTQ people hate wokeness as well. I hope you are the majority, and you should let your voice heard more frequently!
@@tomigun5180 He is the minority, as evident by just how ruinous so many companies/properties/communities have become.
@@hello-lz4xj Not in recent Western games.
I know you think being anti woke will make them like you but they will come for you next
Garen's her man and Katarina's his girl. It's been like that since the beginning, it's still that now. That's my stance.
This is why I never liked Arcane. Saw this happening a mile away.
Not all arcane fans are like that
I agree, I've been saying this for years! Riot should keep lgbtq non sense out of league, when they introduced heart seeker skins I uninstalled league of legends right away why couldn't they left things the way they were when we had heterosexual relationships in league and none of that gay garbage
I agree with you.
Honestly, I love Arcane so much.
Imo, it isn’t worth ruining the show for yourself by emphasizing the whole gay aspect of it (I understand that it’s thrown in your face) but it’s really as simple as
[+10] [+10] [+10]
and you’re back to enjoying the masterpiece which is Arcane.
The League of Legends community was already toxic before Arcane even came out.
someone pls tell her. The League of Legends died because of the toxic community not the Arcane fans LMFAO.
@@koyapol League is still thriving , it is far from a dead game
@@tyranuelyeah but it's partly known for a very gatekeeping, toxic player base. Not something to be proud of, exactly
@@clint-thenormalguy-rockwell365
That is completely irrelevant to what I said
@@tyranuel I'm saying you shouldn't be proud that your game thrives through toxicity and gatekeeping. What's the point? Online Games are suppose to be fun, not full of men telling kids to kys over a digital character then making videos calling other fanbases bad
this is a full grown woman crying about people loving eachother btw 💀💀
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13:11 Nothing is holding you back from creating dark design and mystery with a beautiful woman.
you said nothing in the span of 16 minutes, congratulations
*Preemptive note* This is NO reflection on you, MM.
Is there ever any GOOD news for you to bring us in video games?
Like I say, this isn’t your fault. I just wish we could see something positive in gaming once in a while.
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (created by displaced devs of Ubisoft) looks promising and the veteran devs that were ousted from CDPR have formed their own studio. Rebel Wolves.
@@julitakamaki4386 Clair Obscur looks like a really cool game. I am preventing myself from getting excited in case it turns out to be more alphabet nonsense.
Convoluting fanon and canon in such a weird way only adds up to the perception that you are just an homophobic pick me. Yes, the fandom has a problem and yes, Arcane sucks at its overall portrayal of Leauge lore. That does not take away from the fact that Riot has a very present problem with queer representation (specially male) and that shipping two pixels doesn't have to follow canon.
The problem comes when people purposefully erase canon and spews shit about it (happened just now with KataGaren the same it happened two months ago when people started to erase Ekko's bisexuality)
oh poor you
So this whole rant is based off one tweet? Like sure some people are idiots and just want gay relationships everywhere all the time but I think for the most part people don't think like this.
Thank you for having common sense! Like seriously, a tweet that went viral for being cringe shouldn't validate a video ranting about an entire fanbase
« Vi wasn’t a lesbian » babe, did you listen to Vi and Caitlyn lines when they came out in league??? Even with Miss Fortune?
« Vi I should have brought flowers
-Ah! Try Cupcakes »
Anyway, happy that lol and arcane are more gay than ever, your homophobia is showing. Cope ❤️
They just can’t stand gay people, but then they say they’re not homophobic💀
Varus's backstory was changed in late 2017, and the first LGBT character was Neeko, released in 2018. Since then, queer concepts have been added to several existing characters. I'm pretty sure that all characters released before 2017 were not originally queer. Can you argue?
@@american_renaissance All characters released before 2017 were not CONFIRMED queer, doesn't mean they were not originally/hinted queer.
During Caitlyn's voice line, she had a line where she offered cupcakes to players who chose a Yordle champion in Co-op vs. AI mode.
@@lenawinters2065 However, while Caitlyn and Vi's backstories have changed, there has been no mention of their relationship.
Justice for Viktor
JUSTICE FOR VIKTOR
Am I the only one who likes Jinx more as she was in LOL as this unhinged unpredictable guncrazy joker/junkrat like psycho before arcane and thought that the sad sob story made her lame, no fun and just uncompelling?
Yeah, same as Vi. The story they made was good, I really think so, but both characters are just normal people now and not distinctive.
No, especially in S2 I felt that way about her. They should have made her cause some chaos but now she’s “quirky and depressed”
@@hello-lz4xj This might surprise you, but we don't want real persons in our fantasy stories. There's real life for that.
I disagree. For the game the Joker/Harley persona is fine but... you know, in a story characters need growth. Not to mention they deeply explored Jinx's mental health struggle in a mature, sensitive way. They can't keep her personality frozen as an unhinged crazy lunatic without coming off as dissonant at best, insulting at worst.
Riot ruined league long ago
How can something as shitty as LOL be ruined? And also Arcane is shit too, which has the art style used which is beautiful, but the story... I wouldn't wipe my ass with the script because I don't want to get dirty with more shit.
This comment actually made me laugh out loud.
season two or season one. if season one your taste is terrible, if season two I can kinda understand
Thank you very much for pointing out the hypocrisy
I’m a person who generally hates the actual fanbases that I technically belong to. Tourists are even worse than cringe fanboys who actually know their lore.
I have to say I started to roll my eyes with all the Jayce Victor stuff, Having said that even though it's not canon I kind of liked the Jinx Ekko teasing dynamic. The Timebomb thing. Jinx and Ekko in a straight relationship,boy that got a lot of Star Guardian fans upset. So that got me all for Jinx and Ekko Dynamic all the more. LOL.
Huh? Why were the Star Guardian fans upset?
@@Billy-bc8pk Because they had already formed a community shipping Jinx with Lux, another character from League of Legends (not in Arcane). Jinx and Lux are friends in the Star Guardian universe, and shipping Jinx with Ekko made many of them furious.
1:22 RIP Udyr 😭
They better not mess up Azir, Kaisa, Qiyana, and Jhin.
Buddy
They made silco and singed
They won't mess up jhin
True
Kaisa/Taliyah please
8:39 Hold on, hold on, because I distinctly remember that Riot didn't officially confirm that Vi and Jinx were sisters until Arcane came out. Like yeah, that was speculation amongst the fans, but it wasn't outright confirmed until Arcane. But I do agree with you that shippers ruin everything they touch.
I kinda do like the direction they took with Jinx though from a storytelling perspective. Mostly because I like how they explored her character a bit more and gave her more depth. I think the closest thing we got to that prior to Arcane was her comic with Ziggs (Paint the Town) where she briefly felt remorse over the idea that innocent people may have gotten hurt in her explosion. She actually said "Um... is this what feeling bad feels like?" And that's the closest thing she got to some sort of introspection/character growth. Not that I don't like the funny, quirky Harley Quinn vibes she had going on though. It WAS a lot of fun. But seeing how Harley Quinn is currently being treated in comics (Ie the fart fetish comic) I just feel like writers tend to not really know where to take a character like that a lot of the times. So I don't mind the development that Arcane gave to Jinx. In my opinion, it made her a lot more interesting from a character and storytelling perspective.
Although, I don't like how they treated her in season 2. That third act was abysmal. What even were they thinking with having CaitVi getting it on in Jinx's depression cell and then completely skipping over Jinx's suicidal recovery with Ekko? That entire plot point was shafted to something that happened off screen. And then the ending where Jinx sacrifices herself and fakes her death (The writers confirmed she's still alive) to "end the cycle" like... is the message SUPPOSED to be that mentally ill people are a burden on the people around them and that they should just erase themselves from the equation to make everyone's lives better? Was that supposed to be the takeaway? Awful. Jinx deserved better.
Also, IS Udyr fat? When I think of fat, I think of Gragas. But Udyr to me kind of looks more like... sort of samoan powerlifter. Like a strongman versus a bodybuilder. Udyr to me seems like he has a strongman body type.
Lefties only know how to write nihilism. Think about it. Jinx had no future. Cait and Vi have no future (and can't start an organic family). And ultimately their stories are almost all about nihilism. The Last Of Us 2 was the exact same way -- it's about erasing lineages (Ellie being a full blown Taco Hunter despite being the only one immune to the vegetable zombies, so no offspring and no hope for humanity). They did the same thing with Horizon. Almost all of their stories are about lineage-ending nihilism when you look at them from their top-level concepts.
@ Yeah, and it’s honestly such a massive shame to see. I miss the stories that end on a hopeful note. Heck, a perfect character for that would have been Ekko, who’s entire theme is hope! I mean, he rounded up all of the orphans and people displaced by Silco’s drug empire and brought them to the firelight tree. The tree in it of itself is meant to represent hope as it’s the one place in Zaun that’s actually capable of growing a tree that large and giving the people of Zaun clean, fresh air and sunlight. Whereas the rest of Zaun is plagued by bad air and shade.
So you have Ekko saving Jinx from suicide (off screen 🙄) and then you have Ekko literally saving the day by throwing the Z-drive at Viktor and how does he end up? Well, half the firelights were killed in that war with Ambessa and Jinx has faked her own death and left altogether. So Ekko is just all alone and he gets ZERO reward for being the MVP of the show. It’s so unsatisfying.
Agreed, particularly on Jinx. There are rumours there's another project to continue Jinx and Ekko's story and close these gaps in their story, but even if true it will be years before anything is released