E.R. Having 3 flights with 2 different planes. Here's a better video of the yellow plane: • Control Line Stunt Flying And here are some .049 flights: • Control Line Airplanes
I'm 75, and built and flew about five kit models ..plus some self-designed, made-from-scratch models.. this brings back many memories .. I had a "Thunderbird" stunt airplane (a Veco kit ??)..it had flaps working in opposition of the elevator, and a cowled, inverted mounted McKoy 35. I had a Cox .020, a .049, McKoy .19, .29 (really great motor !), .35, Fox .15, and a pesky,1 hp Fox Combat Special (with pressurized tank system (hard to start, but boy!! when it did ....!! Even experimented with free flight.. losing one Cox .020 over the horizon.. Great memories 1959 - '63 (Jamaica)
Brings back such memories. I flew control line for years before going to R/C. I flew aerobatics and combat. One of these days, maybe when I retire, I'd like to build a C/L model and a 'stoogie' just so I could relive some of those fun days. BTW, I recognize your plane as a "Top Flight 'Flight Streak' " .. good slow combat plane.
Classic set up with the Flite Streak and Fox .35. That's what I had, and my buddy had the Ringmaster and Fox .35. We flew each others planes. They were both great. I even tried a Fox .19 on mine, and it still flew great, but the .35 was more fun.
I love this and RC both. I am his age. I have had a few of the .049 Cox powered plastic models. I have a poor equilibriam. Three circles and I am dizzy and disoriented and had to bring the plane in on high grass at full speed. I love watching this anyway. It is sadly fading. The boys of today seem to be only interested in having a phone pressed to their ear, video games and such. No more mechanical know how and craftsmanship building.
We used to go across the street from my parent's house to the grade school where there was a lot of grass to practice flying these planes. Then we attached ribbons on the end for dog fights. I also had a Cox funny car that ran on a line, and once it hit a bead in the line a chute would active and the engine would shut off. WIth those 0.49 and 0.20 Cox engines we built things from scratch.
I built a jr. Ringmaster with a.15 o.s engine when I was 15 years old in the mid 70's. I used the paper covering on the wing that came with the kit using the dope.
I cut my teeth on control line - you simply cannot convey the excitement of this branch of the hobby. You've just got to try it - I guarantee, one session and you're HOOKED!
COX models probably discouraged more people from CL flying than they encouraged. Could never get them to fly either, then a friend let me fly a Jr. Streak and i could finally do all the different stunts. Best flying plane I ever had. Everything else was just too heavy.
I'm familiar with the old Top Flite "Flight Streak", but this appears to be a hybrid. I flew a lot of C/L when I was younger, and got mostly into slow and fast combat and stunt. I was a FOX engine fan, so I use them in all my .35 cu. in. aircraft. I loved to fly inverted in a grass field and see if I could get grass stains on my vertical fin. Fast combat was crazy, with pressurized fuel systems and engines turning 20K+ rpm. I had a Riley Wooten Voodoo actually disintegrate in the air from going so fast. The Fox .36 Combat Special wound up over 100 feet away from the plane when it drifted down. Don't particularly miss the castor oil smell and mess. Moved up to RC Aerobatics, and am now a UAV (electric Quadcopters) flyer. Would still like to fly a C/L again some day. Would have to build myself a stooge, since there are no longer any groups flying anymore. Keep on flying .... Cheers.
I built a flite streak and put a fox .35 stunt engine on it when I was a kid...16. That engine was pretty light and the plane was very quick in the turns(loops). Flew slow combat and fast. I too had a Fox .36 Combat Special on the fast combat plane. Still have the engines, dunno what I'll ever do with them. After combat I got into racing using Rossi engines for Goodyearand Nelson engines for team race. Good times back then.
@@waynepetrevan I agree ... those were good, clean & fun times. Kids today have no idea of that kind of fun .. well, 99.9% of them anyway. Don't see anyone flying C/L anymore .. a lost art, but I'm certain, at 72, I could still fly one pretty well. The L.M. Cox company, & their PT-19 flight trainer started so many into C/L. Also, back then, Cox Thimble Drone had flight circles at Disneyland (Calif.) which inspired many a kid. A golden era ... and bygone memories now. Cheers!
I remember as a kid in the Vancouver Gas Model Club in the 70's when a friend made his own stoogie and on the first flight stepped on the release line before reaching the control handle. We were rolling on the ground in laughter as he dove for the steel lines and had to fly off the full tank with the lines in his bare hands.
Nice video, Looked a bit "Breezy". Gotcha Streak is a great model, been flying mine for about 8 years, great stunt trainer capable of flying "The Book". Yours seems to have all the same repairs as mine. 🤣
Yes, the second one looks like a Banshee. I've got one in my garage that I haven't flown for many years. Maybe it's time to take it out again. All I need is a control handle and a fuel tank.
Sorry proprpop, never got a notification of your comment. I believe he had it made by someone. And it is quite heavy. Maybe he will give us a definitve answer to the weight. These flights were recorded at Morgan's Point, Bermuda. And thanks for the comment!
Very nice airplane! I built a Hellcat and bashed SkyRay/Flite Streak/Gotcha Streak both using the Gotcha 540 foam wing and they flew great, enduring many of my "low landings." I like your stooge-did you make it? Where are you flying?
Classic stoogie mistake......Walking out to the control handle on the stoogie line side....catch the line with your foot and away goes the plane with you racing to grab the control handle usually unsuccessfully as the plane heads for the trees or the nearest parked car......Oh yes, I talk from experience!!!
I see the flyer is a member of PAMPA. The model is an advanced trainer by Phil Cartier called a "Gotcha Streak" with a foam wing. PAMPA=Precision Aerobatics Model Pilots Association.
Yes I am a PAMPA member ,have been for many years. "Gotcha Streak' it is.Have another one as of 2019. Some say looks like a Flight Streak, not so.Nice planes to fly. I have a lot of models built, and 132 engines Now 72years old and still able to go round an round with my flying machines. Eldon.
Any reason you didn't lean out to max rpm? I know you dial in to slightly rich four stroking so in flight it leans up climbing but sounds like you set it up a bit fat on purpose...
Wrong move #1 and only for those filming such activity - do NOT follow the plane - there's no frame of reference for each maneuver, resulting in a constant bobbing up and down following the plane and always BEHIND on what's going on - hard to adjust to by the viewer. Stand back far enough to see the entire field - or as close as possible to see the plane within that field, and then mount the camera on a tripod and step back. Easier to watch in its entirety as well as easily anticipating each action by the operator, not to forget how much more stable the picture with be. .
This is fun? Your kidding right?!!!! I mean not to down this but why do this when you can fly free of the line now? I mean to be honest... I would fly this into the ground, set it on fire, then go get my 2.4 ghz radio and 69" wing span P-51D Mustang and have a ball. I kinda understand why he is the only one left doing this....lol.
First time you fly C/L you probably WILL fly into the ground, especially if you try inverted. The reflexes these fliers have must be pretty sharp, I guess, as you haven't got the luxury of height that comes with R/C. I think everyone has the right to enjoy their branch of the hobby, just as you are entitled to yours! Peace from the UK. my friend :-)
I fly C/L stunt (competitively when I can) and R/C sport (indoor and outdoor). I prefer the challenge of C/L aerobatics. However, it's all fun; just enjoy what you like.
+Mescalinum Sunshine...Everyone I've talked to about this agrees with you (and me) that it's still the only way to have any real feel for the model through changes in speed and direction in response to control input. One who has done this in competition most of his life says he does it mostly by feel. You get no such feel with RC. ...Then there is the subject of those electric motors.... Yes they are quiet....so quiet- even real airplanes drown them out... along with weed eaters, power blowers, motorcycles, chain saws, lawnmowers... you get the idea. I'll take glow engines any day. And mufflers can be selected /modified /invented - to suit the venue. It isn't all or nothing. The line that separates hobby and art is ever a fine one.
Have you ever even tried to fly real control line ? I used to fly a lot of control-line before I got into RC. RC has many advantages but CL is a lot of fun. I wouldn't mind going back and trying CL again every once in a while. There are also many types of CL flying ranging from sport to speed flying,to aerobatics. And believe me,CL acrobatics is not all that easy and it's very satisfying when you pull off a string of aerobatic maneuvers without a crash. If you have never tried it don't knock it. The point is that it may not be fore you but at least these guys are out doing something they really enjoy and which requires time and skill.
I'm 75, and built and flew about five kit models ..plus some self-designed, made-from-scratch models.. this brings back many memories .. I had a "Thunderbird" stunt airplane (a Veco kit ??)..it had flaps working in opposition of the elevator, and a cowled, inverted mounted McKoy 35. I had a Cox .020, a .049, McKoy .19, .29 (really great motor !), .35, Fox .15, and a pesky,1 hp Fox Combat Special (with pressurized tank system (hard to start, but boy!! when it did ....!! Even experimented with free flight.. losing one Cox .020 over the horizon.. Great memories 1959 - '63 (Jamaica)
To cool! Cheers!
@@eventhorizonbm Hi there from across the pond. What do you call the “tail hook” device that enables you to fly solo ? Thanks.
Brings back such memories. I flew control line for years before going to R/C. I flew aerobatics and combat. One of these days, maybe when I retire, I'd like to build a C/L model and a 'stoogie' just so I could relive some of those fun days. BTW, I recognize your plane as a "Top Flight 'Flight Streak' " .. good slow combat plane.
Had a "Flight Streak" ....rugged as hell
Nice flying, I love the view of the plane from the inside, it reminds me of my days of flying hoping not to crash and hanging on.
Makes me want to go back to 1971, the last year I felt the pull of a Fox .35 on a Flite Streak!
i had a ringmaster with a fox 35 and a dual fuselage twin engine flite streak with enya 19s back in the day
Me too my old old Fox 35 ran well, things were not so complicated back then.
Building a Ringmaster with a Fox.35 now. Getting back into control line after 40 years
Classic set up with the Flite Streak and Fox .35. That's what I had, and my buddy had the Ringmaster and Fox .35. We flew each others planes. They were both great. I even tried a Fox .19 on mine, and it still flew great, but the .35 was more fun.
I love this and RC both. I am his age. I have had a few of the .049 Cox powered plastic models. I have a poor equilibriam. Three circles and I am dizzy and disoriented and had to bring the plane in on high grass at full speed. I love watching this anyway. It is sadly fading. The boys of today seem to be only interested in having a phone pressed to their ear, video games and such. No more mechanical know how and craftsmanship building.
I also had the .049 Cox models. Great times!
We used to go across the street from my parent's house to the grade school where there was a lot of grass to practice flying these planes. Then we attached ribbons on the end for dog fights. I also had a Cox funny car that ran on a line, and once it hit a bead in the line a chute would active and the engine would shut off. WIth those 0.49 and 0.20 Cox engines we built things from scratch.
I built a jr. Ringmaster with a.15 o.s engine when I was 15 years old in the mid 70's. I used the paper covering on the wing that came with the kit using the dope.
I cut my teeth on control line - you simply cannot convey the excitement of this branch of the hobby. You've just got to try it - I guarantee, one session and you're HOOKED!
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 30 Sep 20.
Good Day Bill Morris.
I did it when I was a kid. Built several balsa model combat C/L flyers that were 049 powered.
That's cool. I could never get my cox engines to even start when I was a kid, so I never saw the planes fly. Thanks for posting .
COX models probably discouraged more people from CL flying than they encouraged. Could never get them to fly either, then a friend let me fly a Jr. Streak and i could finally do all the different stunts. Best flying plane I ever had. Everything else was just too heavy.
i flew the cox pt19 trainer when i was a kid almost everyday with no problems, engine crunk up every time.
I'm familiar with the old Top Flite "Flight Streak", but this appears to be a hybrid. I flew a lot of C/L when I was younger, and got mostly into slow and fast combat and stunt. I was a FOX engine fan, so I use them in all my .35 cu. in. aircraft. I loved to fly inverted in a grass field and see if I could get grass stains on my vertical fin. Fast combat was crazy, with pressurized fuel systems and engines turning 20K+ rpm. I had a Riley Wooten Voodoo actually disintegrate in the air from going so fast. The Fox .36 Combat Special wound up over 100 feet away from the plane when it drifted down. Don't particularly miss the castor oil smell and mess. Moved up to RC Aerobatics, and am now a UAV (electric Quadcopters) flyer. Would still like to fly a C/L again some day. Would have to build myself a stooge, since there are no longer any groups flying anymore. Keep on flying .... Cheers.
Cheers!
Interesting.
Thanks for your comment.
I built a flite streak and put a fox .35 stunt engine on it when I was a kid...16. That engine was pretty light and the plane was very quick in the turns(loops). Flew slow combat and fast. I too had a Fox .36 Combat Special on the fast combat plane. Still have the engines, dunno what I'll ever do with them. After combat I got into racing using Rossi engines for Goodyearand Nelson engines for team race. Good times back then.
@@waynepetrevan I agree ... those were good, clean & fun times. Kids today have no idea of that kind of fun .. well, 99.9% of them anyway. Don't see anyone flying C/L anymore .. a lost art, but I'm certain, at 72, I could still fly one pretty well. The L.M. Cox company, & their PT-19 flight trainer started so many into C/L. Also, back then, Cox Thimble Drone had flight circles at Disneyland (Calif.) which inspired many a kid. A golden era ... and bygone memories now. Cheers!
I remember as a kid in the Vancouver Gas Model Club in the 70's when a friend made his own stoogie and on the first flight stepped on the release line before reaching the control handle. We were rolling on the ground in laughter as he dove for the steel lines and had to fly off the full tank with the lines in his bare hands.
Now that would have made a great video!
Man, I am SO jealous that I wan't there to see that - must have been hilarious. Kudos to the pilot for bringing the model home like that!
Thanks.
15 years or more? Time to fly them again, no? Go for it!
Thanks for the comment!
Nice video, Looked a bit "Breezy". Gotcha Streak is a great model, been flying mine for about 8 years, great stunt trainer capable of flying "The Book". Yours seems to have all the same repairs as mine. 🤣
Thanks ReverseWingover. Unfortunately, it's not my plane.
Cheers!
@@eventhorizonbm You should give it a go, it's addictive. Also you would double the size of the local club membership. 🙂
@@ReverseWingover LOL.
I want one how do i built this plane!!!✈️
Awesome.
Yes, the second one looks like a Banshee. I've got one in my garage that I haven't flown for many years. Maybe it's time to take it out again. All I need is a control handle and a fuel tank.
Good flights!
Very good video
Thank you Alan. And thanks for watching.
Ty for showing this vid really injoyed it
Thanks Cooper, much appreciated. And thank you for subscribing.
Sorry proprpop, never got a notification of your comment. I believe he had it made by someone. And it is quite heavy. Maybe he will give us a definitve answer to the weight. These flights were recorded at Morgan's Point, Bermuda.
And thanks for the comment!
1979 was the last year I flew mine it was a Corsair F4U cox .049,I made an auto launcher for it.
That's cool,nice flying also
fly control line become attached to your model
Very nice airplane! I built a Hellcat and bashed SkyRay/Flite Streak/Gotcha Streak both using the Gotcha 540 foam wing and they flew great, enduring many of my "low landings."
I like your stooge-did you make it? Where are you flying?
Great Sound without Muffler LoL
Classic stoogie mistake......Walking out to the control handle on the stoogie line side....catch the line with your foot and away goes the plane with you racing to grab the control handle usually unsuccessfully as the plane heads for the trees or the nearest parked car......Oh yes, I talk from experience!!!
my dad used to be a world champion doing this ,his expertise is dog fight i still have his Sukhoi with a golden bee engine on it
its very hard to find places to fly now days
Looks like my dad's Super hornet from the 70s except no ailerons.
Thoughtssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bravo!!!!!
Loved these things but they make Jarts look like a safe product.
I see the flyer is a member of PAMPA. The model is an advanced trainer by Phil Cartier called a "Gotcha Streak" with a foam wing. PAMPA=Precision Aerobatics Model Pilots Association.
Interesting. I don't remember E.R. ever telling me he is a member of PAMPA. Thanks for the info.
And thanks for commenting. Cheers!
Yes I am a PAMPA member ,have been for many years. "Gotcha Streak' it is.Have another one as of 2019.
Some say looks like a Flight Streak, not so.Nice planes to fly. I have a lot of models built, and 132 engines
Now 72years old and still able to go round an round with my flying machines. Eldon.
Ringmaster?
I believe so.
well done 😅😅😅
Cheers!
Any reason you didn't lean out to max rpm? I know you dial in to slightly rich four stroking so in flight it leans up climbing but sounds like you set it up a bit fat on purpose...
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Chicken stick
Wrong move #1 and only for those filming such activity - do NOT follow the plane - there's no frame of reference for each maneuver, resulting in a constant bobbing up and down following the plane and always BEHIND on what's going on - hard to adjust to by the viewer. Stand back far enough to see the entire field - or as close as possible to see the plane within that field, and then mount the camera on a tripod and step back. Easier to watch in its entirety as well as easily anticipating each action by the operator, not to forget how much more stable the picture with be. .
imadom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need to build simpler models so I have less emotional investment in not pranging them.
luvit
Thanks Bill.
This is fun? Your kidding right?!!!! I mean not to down this but why do this when you can fly free of the line now? I mean to be honest... I would fly this into the ground, set it on fire, then go get my 2.4 ghz radio and 69" wing span P-51D Mustang and have a ball. I kinda understand why he is the only one left doing this....lol.
Don't be a nugget , don't you like classics of any kind. You seem to as u fly a mustang, so enjoy this type too .
First time you fly C/L you probably WILL fly into the ground, especially if you try inverted. The reflexes these fliers have must be pretty sharp, I guess, as you haven't got the luxury of height that comes with R/C.
I think everyone has the right to enjoy their branch of the hobby, just as you are entitled to yours! Peace from the UK. my friend :-)
I fly C/L stunt (competitively when I can) and R/C sport (indoor and outdoor). I prefer the challenge of C/L aerobatics. However, it's all fun; just enjoy what you like.
+Mescalinum Sunshine...Everyone I've talked to about this agrees with you (and me) that it's still the only way to have any real feel for the model through changes in speed and direction in response to control input. One who has done this in competition most of his life says he does it mostly by feel. You get no such feel with RC.
...Then there is the subject of those electric motors....
Yes they are quiet....so quiet- even real airplanes drown them out... along with weed eaters, power blowers, motorcycles, chain saws, lawnmowers... you get the idea.
I'll take glow engines any day. And mufflers can be selected /modified /invented - to suit the venue. It isn't all or nothing.
The line that separates hobby and art is ever a fine one.
Have you ever even tried to fly real control line ? I used to fly a lot of control-line before I got into RC. RC has many advantages but CL is a lot of fun. I wouldn't mind going back and trying CL again every once in a while. There are also many types of CL flying ranging from sport to speed flying,to aerobatics. And believe me,CL acrobatics is not all that easy and it's very satisfying when you pull off a string of aerobatic maneuvers without a crash. If you have never tried it don't knock it. The point is that it may not be fore you but at least these guys are out doing something they really enjoy and which requires time and skill.