Nikon 180mm f2.8 Ai-s Real World Review on the Z6 camera

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  • Nikon 180mm f2.8 Ai-s Real World Review on the Z6 camera for you guys!
    This video is about the Nikkor 180mm ED f2.8 Ai-s lens and how great of a lens it is for dslr cameras as well as mirrorless cameras. I think you will agree when you see the photos that this lens can perform just fine in 2020.
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  • @bassangler73
    @bassangler73 4 роки тому +12

    Excellent lens, it would make a great macro lens! A lot of people don't understand that scratches on the front element are harmless, it's the rear element that needs to be scratch free..

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +3

      Yep. It is incredible how bad the front element can be and still produces beautiful photos. There are a lot of really good deals on eBay because of this phenomenon. 👍😎📸

    • @bassangler73
      @bassangler73 4 роки тому +2

      @@davidsaylors let's keep that on the low down....lolol

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      😂😬🤷🏻‍♂️📸

    • @bassangler73
      @bassangler73 4 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors I first noticed this on my macro lens, I just use a blower to blow the visible dust off the UV filter.. I had been using the lens and the pics had no artifacts or any defects and I just happened to look at my UV filter under bright light and it looked like it had been left outside for a month lol...no scratches or anything just pollen and small dust particles from close up shooting but there was no effect on the images

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      bassangler73 That is funny, because I Bailey did the same thing in Israel. It was probably day 7 of the trip and I just happened to look at the lens and it was filthy! 😳👍📸 So I cleaned it out of compulsion, but you can’t tell it in the photos😂📸📸📸

  • @gnphoto21
    @gnphoto21 4 роки тому +11

    I love old school prime lenses. Each element were hand ground from a glass foundry high in the mountains where the air is cleaner so not to pollute the glass. Takes sharper images than any modern lenses I think.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      There is a wide ranging group of theories on that, but I tend to agree with you. Nothing can overcome old world craftsmanship in my opinion. People seem to forget that for some reason... 👍📸

  • @silverfang612
    @silverfang612 4 роки тому +1

    Love these shots especially the up close bookbag shot! Seriously you have become an inspiration for me to go out and shoot.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Thank you for the kind words, I really do appreciate it. 👍😉📸 That Photo Camera to me while in line at a coffee shop. The cigarettes were positioned perfectly and I couldn’t pass it up.

  • @jacobjurg3746
    @jacobjurg3746 4 роки тому +1

    Some great shots David. And I agree: great lens, with beautiful color rendition.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jacob, I really appreciate it. The lens does perform really well. 👍📸

  • @jtes1442
    @jtes1442 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for taking the time to share !

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching!!! It was a lot of fun to make this video. I really appreciate it. 👍📸

  • @randallbrander8157
    @randallbrander8157 2 місяці тому +2

    I got the feeling that Google/UA-cam knows that I have bought the same lenses that you have and their algorythim is working great. Cheers!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 місяці тому +1

      There is a distinct possibility that you are right...

  • @JB-ou6fl
    @JB-ou6fl Рік тому +1

    Interesting review video. I never saw a lens used in a review in that condition. But it's great to hear that it still performed very well. It speaks about the quality of that lens.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  Рік тому

      I did this review to show how bad a lens could be damaged and it would still produce great results. You are right, the quality of the lens is shocking. It is just that good. Thank you👍📸

  • @MrK67017
    @MrK67017 3 роки тому +3

    I have the autofocus version of this lens, and it is great for portraits. I found several MF versions on EBay, and after hearing so many great reviews about it, I decided to get one. Looking forward to testing it out.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      You will love it. The image quality is just amazing!👍📸

  • @whfowle
    @whfowle 5 днів тому

    180 or 200mm is one of my favorite ranges. I liked it for candid street photography. I didn't know about the 180 f2.8 when I was shooting 35mm film but my 200 f4 was a fairly light lens that I used around the pits to shoot candids of the drivers and mechanics. Came in useful when I was on a ferry shooting the passengers. The closer they were to me, the better the bokeh, even at f4. I suspect the f2.8 is even easier to separate the background from the subject. I need to experiment like you are doing using a digital camera. I do have a Df. My experience is with my Nikon F.

  • @fishingmagconz
    @fishingmagconz Рік тому +1

    Hi David, I too have a Nikkor 180mm f2.8 Ai-s lens. Your comments about this lens are spot on. Sharp, rich vivid colours, and with the aperture set wide-open, the blurred bokeh does a wonderful job isolating the subject from the background.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  Рік тому

      I do love that lens. For a older technology design, it does produce amazing results. Thank you!!!

  • @bobpollack6894
    @bobpollack6894 4 роки тому +4

    I am with you on the AIS glass. They are incredible in their sharpness and build. I have a 55mm 2.8 and 105 2.5. Both of these lenses are incredible. I use both frequently. Also both are probable more rugged then my autofocus lenses.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +2

      Those are amazing lenses, even in today’s world, just like you mention. I regularly use these old girls with good effect and have zero regrets about it. I also agree that they are MUCH better built than the newer lenses too. Much better!👍📸😉

  • @bobpollack6894
    @bobpollack6894 4 роки тому +4

    The Nikon 180 2.8 Ais was my go-to lens for basketball and portraits. Shame Nikon no longer has that focal length in prime anymore..

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      After using that lens the other day, I can see why!!! Great piece of glass and cheap too!!! Thanks!!! 👍😉📸

  • @mikemitchem4846
    @mikemitchem4846 4 роки тому +1

    Love the shot of the aquarium with a foggy Lookout Mountain

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      That is becoming a crowd favorite and it’s mine from this shot as well. 😎📸

  • @HI2LIFE
    @HI2LIFE 3 роки тому +2

    Mate I bought this lens ( current model though) Nikon 180mm f/2.8 D and it's bloody amazing! I bought it cause I saw a good review about it at the Angry Photographer. Btw just discovered your channel here and I'm really enjoying your videos!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Thank you so much 👍📸 I really appreciate that!!! This lens is one of Nikon’s best kept secrets in my opinion. Stellar performance for pennies on the dollar. I was blown away by how good it worked. Thanks again!👍📸

  • @axmarr8132
    @axmarr8132 4 роки тому +1

    Wonderful shots Dave! Especially like the bridge shot with the buildings and the mountain in the background. I own a few old school 200mm. For the most part I have to amp up the saturation with those. Hard to find one of those 180mm Nikkors in "case queen" condition under $200. "Case Queen". Never hears that before. Hilarious!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      😂 It is an adaptation of “safe queen” from the firearm community...😆🤷🏻‍♂️ Best I could come up with while improv recording 😬 Thank you on the image compliment, I like that one too, it is one of my favorites to be honest. 👍📸

  • @techassyst
    @techassyst 4 роки тому +1

    I have this later but the later version with cpu contacts its one of my favourites great for portraits and events I find its micro contrast is great for Black & White

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      I should have tested for that on some deliberate B&W photos... It blew my mind at how well it worked. Thank you so much for all you do. 👍😉📸

  • @williamkazak
    @williamkazak 3 роки тому +1

    I had 180 mm af-ais ed version. It was a very nice lens for pointing at a person within 20 feet, especially when they were seated.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Yes, most excellent portrait lens!👍 You are correct!!!

  • @cubanrum
    @cubanrum 4 роки тому +2

    The quality of the photos is amazing and I love the bokeh from that lens.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, the background renders so nice, it is a grotto portrait lens now that I see what it can do. 👍📸

  • @mohammadashrafkhokhar5678
    @mohammadashrafkhokhar5678 3 роки тому +2

    Nikon 180mm 2.8 ed ai-s lens is the best lens you ever buy

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      It is one of those magical lenses that Nikon made, I must admit. 👍📸

  • @AntPDC
    @AntPDC 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you David - another very interesting review. It's certainly a middle-distance prime lens which has lovely output. Zooms make us all lazy, but heck, a missed shot is a loss! Still, can't beat primes for that magical look. I'm guessing manual focussing these lenses on a Z6 (any mirrorless) is far easier than on a DSLR - with that tiny little focus-confirmation dot!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Yes, that focus magnification function makes it SO much reaper to get focus. I actually like using primes like this on the Z6, it is actually fun. Thanks! 👍😉📸

  • @PhilThach
    @PhilThach 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, David! You made one photo with the market Street bridge in the foreground and the aquarium behind it and lookout mountain behind it all compressed and it is great.

    • @PhilThach
      @PhilThach 4 роки тому

      Thumbnail is outstanding, BTW. :)

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you, I am working on improving them, honestly I think only another youtuber will even notice, but I do appreciate that you did notice. Thanks👍📸

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      The lens compression is incredible, it just works.

  • @smallbrownfox594
    @smallbrownfox594 3 роки тому +2

    I have this lens and I love it; also the 105mm f2.5 and 135mm f2.8. All great portrait lenses. Use on my D850 constantly.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Nice. The D850 being a high resolution monster, I had wondered if it would show up since these lenses were not designed for this much resolution. Thanks!👍📸

    • @bojanbuck7874
      @bojanbuck7874 3 роки тому +1

      Agree on those three, sold my 105 because i found 135 similar and more usefull and now checking out 180mm to purchase. Another great is 85mm 1.8, very nice lens, never tried f2 version though.

  • @life107familyfitnessboxing8
    @life107familyfitnessboxing8 Рік тому +1

    I want one. Thanks for sharing

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  Рік тому

      It is an awesome lens. You will love it.

  • @joseerazevedo
    @joseerazevedo 3 роки тому +1

    Hi! Love this lens, one of my best ones. Mine is in better conditions, I picked one of these metal lens caps for they protect it better than the plastic ones. The ED glass is the first outside element. Impressed by the scratches on yours, and even more by the great results! Enjoy it! Best

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you! Those lenses are truly amazing devices for what they cost now, such great photos can be had with them for pennies on the dollar and most people scoff at them since they are not automatic... Our little secret I guess, lol. Thank you again and congrats on the find!!! Well done!

    • @joseerazevedo
      @joseerazevedo Рік тому

      @@davidsaylors To make the lens cap a bit easier to fit, on mine a put just a smell of oil on the thread. My best!

  • @phooesnax
    @phooesnax 4 роки тому +1

    Nice work David.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to let me know. 👍😉📸

  • @jamesoliver6625
    @jamesoliver6625 4 роки тому +4

    David I have the 180 f2.8 AF-d and it is one of my favorite lenses. With only 8 elements there IS something special about its presentation both in intensity and field of view. Yes its not you typical street lens but use that to expand the way you look at "street" narrowing your field of view as you look about and find your images. I use it as part of that exercise of locking on a prime and using it's limits to force me into looking about differently.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Thank you James, you hit the nail on the head about expanding my horizons, it is so easy to get into a rut with my photography... 👍📸

    • @AntPDC
      @AntPDC 4 роки тому +3

      The only thing that concerns me about the 180mm f/2.8 AF-D (and its 300mm f/4 sibling) is the exposed diaphragm at the rear, wherein there's no rear lens element to protect it from grunge.

    • @jamesoliver6625
      @jamesoliver6625 4 роки тому +2

      @@AntPDC Just be aware of the "issue" and treat them a bit nicer than you might with a beater lens (I have a couple of older AF-D zooms that are perfect for street). I usually will mount the 180, or the 80-200, on a body and it simply remains mounted the whole shoot (trying to do "baseball" cards at the grandson's games, etc). I have that 300 f4 AF-S and had never noticed. Diaphragm is sure in there a long ways. I don't shoot it that much anyway though it usually is with the same constriction, once mounted it never moves until I'm putting it back in the case.

    • @AntPDC
      @AntPDC 4 роки тому +2

      @@jamesoliver6625 Thank you James. Like you, I take care of my lenses, but that particular design (which I don't think has ever been repeated) calls for a great deal of caution when buying used copies. The Japanese seem to cherish the lenses they own (and make) - although, since the Tsunami, I've seen anecdotal reports of fungus and balsam separation problems in lenses being mis-described on eBay as "Exc ++". Looking closely at the pictures of the lens being sold is a great thing to do! Best wishes.

  • @miguellopez-araus7020
    @miguellopez-araus7020 3 роки тому +1

    Hello david, nice review! Love the bokeh of this lens.
    Could you please try the nikkor ai-s 100mm f2.8 series E. Its a cheap one and many of us have it.
    Have you any problems in focusing when stopping down at 5.6 or more in those lenses?
    Thanks for the videos

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому +1

      Trying to find one now. Nice little lens! Have you looked at the 105mm f2.5? That is also a great lens in this focal length.
      I don’t normally have too much trouble focusing anymore, I have been practicing so long with manual lenses that it is pretty easy to me now.

  • @Blue_Newt_01
    @Blue_Newt_01 4 роки тому +1

    Did you say Grants? Is that store still around in your area? Or did you have that lens for that long? 😂. Nice images out of that oldie but goodie. Having finally acquired the 105mm f2.8, and 135mm f2.8, this lens is next on my list. Appears to be wonderful for portraits!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      It is Grant Gauvreau, a Photographer from south Florida that has come up to shoot street with me a couple of times. He left it with me after his last trip up so I could review it and do a little shooting with it. He is @thatgrantgauvreau on Instagram. Go take a look at his work, is it per strong. He has already shot a magazine cover or two. Great guy.

  • @fredthegraycatt
    @fredthegraycatt 7 місяців тому

    I've never had a problem with the screw in metal caps, even the bigger 95mm. I feel they do a superior job of keeping fine dust out and protecting the front element over the plastic snap-in's. Maybe your threads on the cap or lens are slightly jacked? I am considering getting one of these 180mm AI-S Mint condition beauties. Thanks for your review.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  7 місяців тому

      Interesting. I seem to always cross thread them for some reason. I use them occasionally as some of my lenses came with them and I havent bought plastic caps for them yet. That lens might have bad threads as it was beat up pretty good. That is a distinct possibility to be honest. Lol.

  • @tomallen6073
    @tomallen6073 2 роки тому +1

    Probably how that front element got all scratched up, the lens cover was too difficult to put back on.lol. Looks like a great piece of glass, may have to pick one up at some point. Thanks

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 роки тому

      😂 yep, that screw on lens cap was a problem for me. I think it was probably a journalism lens or something like that…🤷🏻‍♂️📸

  • @ccmassis
    @ccmassis 3 роки тому +1

    Great job again. David have you reviewed or have the 75-150 f/3.5 nikon ais E series?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому +1

      I will have to check, but I think I might have that lens! More to come!!! 👍📸

  • @robinlennon4752
    @robinlennon4752 4 роки тому +1

    Would love to see how this handles and manages with focus peaking on a Fuji. I find it easier to use my Ai/Ais's on my X-T2 than on my D610 for some reason.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, my XT3 is pretty easy to use with manual glass, but my Z6 also is really easy to work with now that I have focus magnification set to a function button...

  • @advr2293
    @advr2293 4 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @GreginMD
    @GreginMD 4 роки тому +1

    I LOVE these older prime lenses, but they're a little bit like carrying around a golf bag. You need to have a really good idea how far away from the hole (subject) so you can decide which club (lens) to use. Nice thing about using a lens like the 180 for street photography is that you're so far away from potentially interesting subjects that you can get the shot without being noticed most of the time.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Yeah, I found you to be exactly right. Primes are just like golf clubs. That is a great analogy. Here lately, I have been just taking the camera and leaving the whole bag in the truck and it is quite liberating. Also, that is a great point about the long focal length lenses, I have wanted to try to shoot street photos with my 200-500mm and see what the reaction would be 😂📸 I have never done it though... 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @GreginMD
      @GreginMD 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors - as an alternative, I recently picked up one of the older 80-200 f/2.8 push/pull lenses. These things can be had for amazingly little money. I got mine on eBay - seriously mint condition for $169, and it takes A M A Z I N G photos. Back in the day, like the 180mm f/2.8, the 80-200 f/2.8 was truly a professional lens. Heavy and solid enough to use as a hammer. Buy this, and you can ditch your 100mm, your 135mm and your 180mm f/2.8 lenses. You won't be able to tell the difference. And you'll have screw-drive auto focus to boot!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Yes sir! I have not owned that lens yet, I bought the 70/200 f2.8 early on so I haven’t ever picked one up, but you are not the first person to tell me a story like this. Great glass always shows through!👍

  • @TaipeiGeek
    @TaipeiGeek 4 роки тому +1

    Looks very sharp from what I can tell. The UA-cam compressing really makes it hard to see. It would be nice, if you had a website where we could see this pics.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Yes, I should make space for them on my website, and at least upload one of the photos from these videos there for reference, I didn’t have the website for the first couple of years, so I got into the habit of not doing that so now it has become how I work when I make a video. Old habits are hard to break for some reason... Thank you👍📸

    • @AntPDC
      @AntPDC 4 роки тому +2

      Right. Even if David uploaded in 4k, that would still barely scratch the surface of this lovely lens' real-world IQ, if you'll forgive the pun...

  • @obedbrinkman
    @obedbrinkman 2 роки тому +1

    i love that lens, bought one on ebay, bought a pinch cap as well 😎the original cap is beautifill but not very handy to use

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 роки тому +1

      That screw-on lens cap was tough for me 😂🤷🏻‍♂️ I just could get it to work. I must admit that I didn’t have high hopes for this lens before I used it. It was rough from use. But I was blown away by what it could do. Thank you!👍📸

  • @warlordpriest1
    @warlordpriest1 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video and great shots! I'm late to the party and just learning about this lens today. I want to use one with my Z6. David, did you say you were using a simple plain adaptor ring with no cpu contact points. Is there a special brand that you recommend or is it just something easy to find at a camera store? It would be nice to get something cheaper than the FTZ that still does the job.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 роки тому +1

      It is a simple adapter ring by K&F Concepts that I got from Amazon. It is super cheap. Works like a charm. 👍📸

    • @warlordpriest1
      @warlordpriest1 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors
      Wow! That’s just the one I was looking at online and wondering about. Glad to know it really works. Ordering one immediately. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 роки тому +1

      @@warlordpriest1 No problem!!!

    • @warlordpriest1
      @warlordpriest1 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors
      And I got a very clean copy of that lens today. It seems to function very well with the adaptor so I’m looking forward to taking it out. A whole new approach, using primes instead of relying heavily on zooms. It’s gonna be interesting.

    • @warlordpriest1
      @warlordpriest1 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors
      If I could ask one more question: After adapting these
      lenses and inputting the “non cpu” data of these lenses into the camera are they automatically stabilized?

  • @GreginMD
    @GreginMD 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Dave - nice video! So here's the rub... I really love the older AI-s lenses, and I'm caught between this lens (180mm) and another lens that you've reviewed - the 200mm. The 20mm difference isn't as critical as the f/2.8 vs. f/4 to me, but I'm curious... I'm leaning toward buying the 180, but since you've had both, I'm curious - which one would be your pick (and why), if you were to go with only one?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      The 180mm ... if I had to choose just one. Because it is a stop faster. I find myself shooting in low light much more than I care to admit, so having the larger aperture is a huge selling point to me.

    • @GreginMD
      @GreginMD 4 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors I was definitely leaning toward the 180mm for the same reasons - thanks!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      Your welcome! Thank you!!!

    • @GreginMD
      @GreginMD 2 роки тому

      @@davidsaylors So loving these older lenses as much as you do (so it seems), I did wind up picking up one of these 180 AIs lenses for myself about a month ago. In that month, I've found that I completely agree 100% with your review. My particular copy is in really nice shape, and it's one of the last ones manufactured, judging by the serial number - but it IS a challenging lens to fit in. Yes, street photography can be difficult with this one until you find the range - like the guitar player at about 6:00 into your video - perfect shot. But holy cow, when you do find the sweet spot for what this lens was made for, you're right - it takes phenomenal photos. Anyway, I'll be taking it on vacation with me in about a week, so I'm hoping to get some interesting shots with this lens. On a side note, I do have a fair share of Nikon AI-s lenses, and I definitely appreciate the build quality of all of them. But this 180 is in a league of its own. Maybe because it's so big and heavy, but who cares? I definitely understand why many people call it their favorite lens!

    • @alanhoughton6166
      @alanhoughton6166 Рік тому

      late to the party here, but I see those 2 as pretty different. the 200mm f/4 is really pretty light and easy to lug around, and it's also very sharp to my eyes, even at f/4. I use it for walking around in parks and short hikes. The 180 f2.8 is heavier and has a longer throw (I have the Nikkor-P, AI converted) version and it harder to use out in nature, IMO. But it's a great lens for portraits and I love it for gardens.

  • @bobpollack6894
    @bobpollack6894 4 роки тому +1

    Enjoy your videos

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Thank you, I really appreciate it!👍📸

  • @willapanews9761
    @willapanews9761 4 роки тому +2

    The old 80-200 push pulls are pretty good for around 100 dollars or less. The f4 in good condition do not have lens creep while f4.5 have lens creep, does not really matter when you are hand holding and zooming / focusing by hand.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      I however been thinking about getting one of those and selling my 70-200mm f2.8, just to be honest. The 80-200mm is a great lens for a fraction of the money.

    • @willapanews9761
      @willapanews9761 4 роки тому

      I had the first version of the 70-200 and I like the manual focus 80-200's better with closer focusing and actually faster focus and less weight, VR was nice but not necessary. What you pay in tax on a new 70-200 you can get 3 or 4 old 80-200 in good condition and not be worried about damaging your lens.

    • @robinlennon4752
      @robinlennon4752 4 роки тому

      Ezra, I've got the 80-200 f4.5 newer version and I can honestly say with perhaps the exception of the 135mm f3.5, out of my 12 Ai/Ais lenses it's that one that the output quality to price ratio is my favourite. Brilliant value for money. I've been wanting the 180mm for some time as a step up in quality from my 200mm f4 when I don't mind carrying solely that lens given the extra weight. Because they were a photojournalist favourite they are more often than not in the well used category.

    • @willapanews9761
      @willapanews9761 4 роки тому +1

      @@robinlennon4752 I have both the f4 ais and newer f4.5 ai 80-200 and both are pretty good for zooms to use when there is enough light so you can keep shutter speed up with out having to use high ISO. The 180mm 2.8 ed is better for lower light situations than the 80-200's. For the price if you are shooting in daylight and subjects about the size of an orange or bigger the 80-200 is the way to go.

    • @robinlennon4752
      @robinlennon4752 4 роки тому

      @@willapanews9761 Yes that 2.8 could come in handy. I'm going out today testing the 200mm f4 Ais on my Fuji X-T20 against the native 55-200mm on my X-T2 for a comparison, as there is that crossover with the 180mm & 55-200mm but I love the quality and manual handling of Ais in unison with modern Fuji AF.

  • @aussie8114
    @aussie8114 4 роки тому +2

    I suspect that lens cap didn’t get much use 😂 I think the front element scratches would show artefacts in front lighting flare, but interesting it looks good otherwise.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      I think you are right. That lens cap didn’t see must use if I had to guess. Probably stayed in the camera bag... UNLIKE the lens😂 But it still works well.

  • @johndaubney7311
    @johndaubney7311 2 роки тому +1

    Dave, im just curious did you ever sell off this lens? I was looking into this lens a year or so ago and watched your video...gave it a thumbs up by the way and decided to get a copy... anyhow i watched your video again. It was on a playlist that just kept running and your video played through.... and i swear I think I have this lens. it has scratches on the front element just like the one in the video... didn't think much about it and thought, yea mine has scratches but it performs fine just like yours so sctaches dont scare me anymore... anyhow when you showed the mount with the exposed brass I had to get my copy out it and look.... and dam it has the same worn mount with brass showing. Now I just have to know. Did you ever sell it ?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 роки тому

      No sir. I borrowed that lens from Grant and he still had it. Wonderful lens. I just never got one.

  • @joeljoetz3582
    @joeljoetz3582 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir for reviews god bless you but how do you mount on a sony nex generation and a 6000

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому +1

      Use one of these little guys.
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    • @joeljoetz3582
      @joeljoetz3582 3 роки тому

      @@davidsaylors thank you soo much sir

  • @willapanews9761
    @willapanews9761 4 роки тому +1

    I have one in good condition, the pictures are pretty good. On a sunny day with light through trees you get pretty good bokeh.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      That is an interesting point and one that someone else pointed out. The artifacts on the front element will probably produce huge flares when pointed at the sun... that is a condition I didn’t have that day. But diffuser light, it worked amazingly well.

    • @willapanews9761
      @willapanews9761 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah you could probably still get good photos with that lens with good bokeh pointed away from sun if you can see sky through leaves or have patches of light and shadows in background.

    • @willapanews9761
      @willapanews9761 4 роки тому +1

      I used my 180mm tonight and got a few good pictures of comet neowise, one with shooting star.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +1

      Nice! I think it is about to be out of view for us to hear, at least, without a telescope. I photographed it a week or so back when we had a clear sky. It is incredible.

    • @willapanews9761
      @willapanews9761 4 роки тому

      I also took photos mostly with a 55mm 1.2 of comet at beginning of the week it was brighter then and of course it clouded up when comet was closest to earth. I was still able to get some good photos before early morning fog started to form when there was clear skies and from area with very low amounts of light pollution with the 180mm 2.8 lenses. Makes me wish I had given in to my desires for the 300mm f2.8 ais. The light reflecting off the moon illuminated another portion of the tall that was not as bright with just sun light from one direction in the photos I took earlier this week.

  • @PhrozenPhlanges
    @PhrozenPhlanges 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, so do these not mount directly to an F mount camera such as a Nikon D7500? if not what adapter do I need? I just ordered a used one from Japan because I must have misread somewhere else that they will mount to FX and DX cameras. I bought the MF version as Id be using it for astrophotography only.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Yes sir. It will work fine on your D7500. You are correct in that the camera cant control it and that it is a manual lens. It is a wonderful lens, I was truly impressed with it. 👍📸

  • @ravi-h8v
    @ravi-h8v 4 місяці тому +1

    I just bought it to use on my nikon d3 but I cannot set the aperture from f2.8 to f32 but the top screen show f0.0 to f7 only. I don’t know why can you tell me about this problem

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 місяці тому

      Most likely it has to be the aperture detection pin on the camera is stuck on something that has to do with the lens. That is how the camera knows whatthe aperture is set on the lens. Check that it is touching the aperture ring in the tight spot and is not in a bind.

  • @AntPDC
    @AntPDC 4 роки тому +4

    This is a legendary Nikkor lens, and for very good reasons, as set out in NIKKOR - The Thousand and One Nights No.10. Here is the link: imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0010/index.htm
    The entire site is a wonderful resource, written by Nikon's lens engineers. Unmatched build quality, this is a lens specifically designed to perform superbly at its wider apertures.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the link to the article, I really enjoyed that. This makes me want to get a copy of this lens even more than before now, the history is really interesting to me and the glass doesnt hurt anything either... lol

    • @wolfscote3442
      @wolfscote3442 4 роки тому +2

      @@davidsaylors The one you used here was a loaner? At any rate, mine arrived from Japan the other day (mostly all the best copies come from Japan), and somehow Customs didn't charge tax and import duty - dunno why. This lens is a work of art all by itself: superb construction; flawless optics. Its imaging is so stellar on my D810 that my eyes almost bled, it's that fabulous. When all the modern plastic lenses, stuffed to the gunnels with electronics die in the dirt, this and other older lenses will live on for my great great grandchildren's enjoyment. Thank you for reviewing it here.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Yes. Grant was gracious enough to let me use it for the recipe and to shoot with it for a few weeks. He is an awesome guy. This is one of those lenses that they “got just right” at Nikon. Like the 28mm f2.8 Ai-S and the 105mm f2 DC Nikkor. I really liked it... ALOT. 😎😬 I will be getting one at some point... 👍📸

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 2 роки тому +1

    Have you ever compared the 180 2.8 AI-S vs the AF or AF-D versions?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  2 роки тому +1

      No, I have not. I have not had most of the AF series lenses yet. Most of them are wonderful though.

    • @bradl2636
      @bradl2636 2 роки тому +2

      @@davidsaylors For the first time EVER in 16+ years buying used lenses from Japan I have to return a 180mm f2.8 AF-D to the seller because of a broken M/A switch - the outside switch seems to work fine but internally it's broken because when mounted in "M" position the screw drive turns when focusing manually. Obviously that's not good. The S/N of the lens I'm returning is 416591 and I'd avoid that copy if it should pop up again soon for sale. Locally the cost to repair it here would run $395 (assessment fee plus repair time) plus parts if they can be found so not worth repair IMHO.

    • @alexverbeke2228
      @alexverbeke2228 2 роки тому

      @@bradl2636 I had the AI-S and AF-D versions, AI-S is the best imo, sharper, less CAs...AF-D is obviously better AF ;) .

  • @cameraman655
    @cameraman655 4 роки тому +1

    1:50 Those are battle scars, badges of honor, a true working lens, ditto for camera bodies that are brassing, ext..

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      Yep, as long as it is mechanically sounds, the appearance doesn’t matter. World of difference in a well used lens and an abused lens. This one is well used. 👍📸😉

  • @esmither
    @esmither 3 роки тому +1

    Dumb question, but how do you meter with this lens/camera setup? Or do you just meter based off of what you see through the EVF? What camera mode do you use? Looking to get a z6ii body with these AI prime lenses for portrait work.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому +1

      I look at the in-camera light meter and it shows the exposure based on the metering mode I am using at the time. Usually if you are shooting with fairly large apertures and shutter speeds faster than 1/10 second the EVF will give you what the image is going to look like anyway. That is how I am getting the exposure on all my mirrorless cameras.

    • @esmither
      @esmither 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylorsthanks! Is the metering still accurate when you stop down the aperture manually on the lens? For instance, when you want to get a deeper DOF?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому +1

      @@esmither Yes, it does, the only problem you run into is long shutter speeds with start to give you incorrect previews so I will just take test photos when that happens. Otherwise, as long as , the shutter speeds are faster than about 1/10 second, then it will meter “preview” will be right. Did that answer your question?

    • @esmither
      @esmither 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors Yeup, thanks a bunch!

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Your are Very welcome!👍

  • @MusphyOfficial
    @MusphyOfficial Рік тому +1

    can you tell if its fix 180mm or its a zoom lens?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  Рік тому

      It is a prime lens, it is factory set at 180mm only.

  • @NJ_Galactic
    @NJ_Galactic 3 роки тому +1

    Does it also work with the Z7?

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Adapted with the FTZ, it can be used on the Z7 as well. It is just a manual lens though, so it has to be manually operated on all the functions. 👍📸

    • @NJ_Galactic
      @NJ_Galactic 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors thanks

    • @NJ_Galactic
      @NJ_Galactic 3 роки тому

      @@davidsaylors thank you

  • @geod3589
    @geod3589 3 роки тому +1

    my buddy had one of these and loved it so much I think he slept with it, lol.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      😂 That is pretty ... intimate... of a relationship with you glass😂 But it is that good. Shockingly good. 👍📸

  • @conniechristenson4833
    @conniechristenson4833 3 роки тому +1

    Hi there. Beautiful images and great video. Thank you. I have a Z7 camera and just received this lens.....in a little better shape than yours HaHa nit that the quality will be any better. I do not know how to light meter. I understand the f stop will not show up but neither does my light metering.....one of my favorite things about the Nikon Z7.

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      Go in and tell it that it is a non-cpu lens in the menu. Maybe that will fix the problem with the lack of metering. I just run it and either adjust the image to look like ai want in the viewfinder or look at the histogram. You can cycle through the disp options till the histogram comes on and it will show you at least where the image is in relation to exposure enough to know if you are out of normal bounds. I was certain I could see the meter, but to be honest, that might be my D810...

    • @conniechristenson4833
      @conniechristenson4833 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidsaylors Thanks for the quick reply!. I did tell my camera in the menu of the non-CPU lens but have not still had a meter. THe Z 7 doesn't really need a meter as it shows you what the image will look like so that is what I have been doing. Love the lens for macro flowers but would like to get closer....maybe extension tubes??

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  3 роки тому

      It is surprising how well simple extension tubes actually work and yet people still obsess over high end macro lenses. Grab a set and see how the work for you. 👍📸

  • @mikemitchem4846
    @mikemitchem4846 4 роки тому +1

    That lens looks its been in a war. Produces well though

    • @davidsaylors
      @davidsaylors  4 роки тому

      It does, I was a little surprised to see how good it renders to be honest. 👍📸