How to Fix Traffic Forever
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Wendover Productions maybe some of these studies need to be done in larger cities like Los Angeles. On ramp meters on the 405 are basically useless. Traffic is so bad I've seen cars backed up onto the streets because they cannot get on the freeway because the previous cars were still waiting to merge.
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2:25 that guy who switched lanes is what's wrong with the world.
The same applies for the guy at 2:18 making an illegal lane change.
most probably the lens used to take that shot made everything appear closer together, that car probably had plenty of space to change lane
QuantumBraced that and slow drivers in the fast lane
Seekay i was gonna make this comment
QuantumBraced it's just the angle. The guy probably had plenty of space to change lanes
While Europe is trying to completely remove cars from cities, the US is discovering the roundabout lol
Have fun waiting at bus stops then.
@@DrJams have fun driving 3-4 hours round trip to work, see a movie, a concert or whatever you do in your cities every day of your life.
@Kyle Hislip Well, at least the German government kind of is.
Because banning private property went well the last time it was tried.
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A better solution is to increase public transport speed, capacity and frequency instead so that less people have to drive in the first place. The proper solution to car traffic is too provide a safe, nice alternative to driving. Yes, all the solutions in the video work to an extent but the permanent solution is to get rid of as many cars as possible off the road.
Is it too much to ask for both? Thats basically what the netherlands has... (and to a lesser extent the UK - at least in comparison to the US)
Honestly, I was shocked by how overlooked transit was in this video. Like "don't build more lanes - charge people extra to get where they need to go" - so discourage poor people from going to busy areas and call it a day? And "these roundabouts are difficult for pedestrians, especially disabled people to use, but that's a price we should be willing to pay". What?
How about considering the law that traffic increases until public transit is faster? Dedicated bus lanes, anyone? Increasing the safety of bike lanes? Maybe instead of building more lanes and subsidizing oil and gas, the gov could use that money to improve transit and ACTUALLY fix traffic
Edit: How could I forget! Ditching so many zoning laws! Laws about parking space, min lot sizes, and keeping residential and commercial separate. I would *love* to have some cute shops in my neighbourhood so I could walk instead of drive
@@Tsukaiyo ground floor shops. and apartments on top. saves space and would get people to walk instead of drive. even a 5min walk with groceries i would personally still take the car, unless smaller items. wouldn't like carrying the weekly supplies
If I go in public transport what will people think of me
@@a.16.g That you're a guy on a train or bus. It's a very normal thing.
Roundabouts also have the circle in the middle for flowers and trees, which just make everything nicer.
Plus, that's a few more trees in a city to take in the carbon dioxide from the cars and convert it back to oxygen and breathable air to reduce smog, and the aesthetic of having more plants in the concrete jungle to put urban folks a little closer to nature.
@@johnwalker1058 believe it or not forests dont suck out any carbon dioxide from the atmosphere after a while. think about it, they need carbon to build the wood of the tree, so when that tree dies and decays, all that carbon goes back into the atmosphere. however, forests still have a lot of trees present, all storing carbon.
think of forests not as carbon sinks, but carbon buckets.
@@kairon5249
Fair enough.
Well, even in that case, it seems better to have that excess carbon in a bucket (even if temporarily) than just hanging in the air the whole time.
@@kairon5249 You realize “carbon emissions” refers to CO2, not actual carbon atoms, right?
not only do they look nicer, but it makes the roundabout seem smaller (with a big enough tree) so people drive slower, and thus, safer
And trees are like nature’s A/C just having a few near you cools off an area drastically
And it shades the asphalt, which also cools an area off
Honestly if traffic were to ever get "fixed" I imagine it would have to do with cities prioritizing public transit. Some cities have a pretty good system so driving seems unnecessary to get around.
Japan already fixed it with their metro system. Hardly anyone actually drives in Japan. When the metro system is so complex that it allows you to arrive within 1-2 blocks of anywhere in a city, you don't need to waste time or gas money.
Yh don’t fix traffic just get rid of it #savetheenvironment
capefear56 in Singapore ( don’t trust me my mum is the source of the reason) but everyone uses taxis cos the road tax or congestion charge is too high
This is exactly what Singapore did
@@capefear56 Go to Tokyo and say that. There is so much traffic in that city.
One positive thing with a roundabout you didn’t mention is that drivers never have to deal with that situation that always seems to occur when you’re in a hurry... Sitting at a red light when no one else is on the road! That alone is a big thumbs up to roundabouts from me 👍
He didn't mention sitting at red lights alone but he did mention sitting at red lights as a whole. Also since this video is about reducing traffic congestion, it probably doesn't apply to places where you would ever be the only one at the intersection, so that's probably why he never brought that up.
@@alahiri2002 But then when are people supposed to get their texting done? That Twitter feed doesn't update itself!
Waiting on red while there is no one else is fixed with a few hundred dollars worth of electronic equipment per intersection (cameras and controller circuits), centralised control and monitoring systems (with sane autonomous regimes when disconnected from the central servers) and automated signalling. And bam - you have signal length dictated by the current demands as well as sane default margins that would for instance save you from waiting out a 300 car procession just because you are alone in your direction. The same equipment would be also very handy for emergency vehicle recognition and prioritisation, redirecting traffic, adjusting speed limits according to conditions, changing the number of lanes used for turning vs going straight, vehicle and person searches, video evidence helping in deducing the cause for accidents, automatic ticketing for speeding, running reds, changing lanes in the middle of an intersection, blocking an intersection, (generally anything you can recognise through automated video analysis with a healthy degree of certainty backed by manual validation in edge cases, and which you can easily automatically adjust in a reliable manner by changing signs, issuing tickets, alerting patrols, ...), etc. And this is nothing new. Most of the largest cities in the world use similar systems with reported great results.
But hey, rules are bad because people don't follow them, so why not remove the proper use labels from pills and let people hash out the effects on their own - slowly and cautiously? For just the price of a new roundabout, we can make intersections exciting again!
In the end, people are not reliable in "boring" tasks like everyday driving. As long as we insist on driving, there will be problems caused by our irresponsible decisions based on primal urges and short-sighted or plain wrong assumptions. But that's another topic.
@Levi Howell Sorry for the rant. I realise it is not towards you in particular. Just raising a few points for discussion, against my better judgement at around midnight when I'm quite exhausted. I could be wrong in my assumptions and opinions, so I would be happy to learn something new - do your own research and share/clash ideas.
Levi Howell and waiting for an eternity for drivers to start again after the light turns green
I mean there’s a roundabout at the end of my street and traffic is always backed up hundreds of metres. It is the only way for 3 roads to go into town though so what do they expect
3:26 - Crashes increased by 26%
Minnesota: "Some of you may die... But that is a sacrifice I am willing to make"
Abhinav Banerjee we already have one of the highest death rates from crashed because of icy roads anyway, so they probably just said screw it. However I will tell you that nobody died as a result of the experiment, it was simply because some taxpayers believed they didn’t make a change.
@Abhinav Banerjee they didn't exactly know that the crashes would increase
@Abhinav Banerjee hi
Hi g
at least they didn’t refuse to change it in the first place out of safety concern, then crashes wouldn’tve decreased in the firsy place
As the Supreme Mayor of No Traffic City in Cities: Skylines I have abolished traffic by:
1. Keeping jobs and services within walking distance of residental areas
2. Making the whole city available and safe for pedestrians and cyclists
3. Using tax-funded mass transit with multiple options connecting all areas of the city frequently
4. Roundabouts
5. More roundabouts
6. Not forcing cars on a single road: multiple route possibilities
Feel free to re-design your real world city by using these guidelines! :)
I wish I could, but unfortunately I'm not mayor of many real cities
I've found that hexigonal blocks are pretty good at diffusing traffic
@@williamfarley3794 “not many” but at least one I assume. Get to it!
How do you make things better for pedestrians and bikes without mods?
Get rid of single family zoning too. Allow small businesses like a tiny convenience store or restaurant to be opened by houses and apartments. You know, what's called normal in the rest of the world.
"There is no one way to solve traffic."
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When you play Cities Skylines
_How to Fix Traffic Forever_
The crossover interchanges work really well in cities skylines. I've made a city of over 100k using only those types of highway ramps.
i tried to make a city recently where instead of metro stations i used public and cargo rains. needless to say, train traffic jams are terrible :p
Ikr, they kill the city like nothing else! And am I the only one that feels like trains are even more stupid than normal vehicels? sometimes they lock up, whilst having way enought place to go out of each others way.
At least the "new" one way train tracks let you kind of fix this.
ZachicusMaximus double crossover merging interchange FTW!
Except that half of these solutions won't even work in the game because of that pathetic AI that the developers are somehow proud of anyway.
The Netherlands: "Hold my Gouda while I show you our separated road networks for cars, bicycles and pedestrians"
Dutch urban planning is best urban planning!
Um, taxi/bicycle traffic in Amsterdam is terrifying. I am less than impressed by a fair proportion of "professional drivers". "Patience? Screw that, I'm going to bull through and hope the bike moves out of my way, they have an extra 3 cm of lane they can use."
Another step of fixing traffic is making cars unnecessary. Making walkable and bikeable cities is a good step.
Expanding public transport is also a great way to do this.
Trams and/or subways for inner city travels, busses and low-speed rail to connect suburbs and surrounding towns and villages to the cities and high-speed rail for inter-city travel.
A high speed train line from Los Angeles to New York City probably won't make too much sense, but a line from Boston over New York City and Philadelphia to Washington D.C., a line from Vancouver over Seattle to Portland or a line from San Fransisco over Los Angeles to San Diego could replace a lot of short flights or long car drives and save a ton of CO2 emissions.
We have the line from Boston to DC but it’s kinda crappy compared to what it could be
Fellow not just bikes enjoyed yet?
@@papierbak of course. 😁
Time to use these newly learned skills in Cities Skylines
I think every Mayor of Cities should at least try it.
Bout to try that
Curglobe diverging diamond intersections are horrible, but roundabouts are godly.
Curglobe 200k city with average traffic flow of 68% here
These types of intersections work very poorly in Cities Skylines.
The game treats every road split or merge as a conventional traffic lights / stop intersection, and cars adhere strictly to the highway code and will not enter an intersection if they aren't sure they'll be able to exit the intersection.
The double diamond interchange and roundabouts have too many roads joining/merging in a tight area.
The cars AI will often stop in places where cars are supposed to flow freely, creating significant congestion and/or total locking. In order to make these types of intersections work in the game, you need to build them on an extremely large scale in order to space the splits and merges sufficiently for the AI to function properly.
People building roundabouts often use the freeway road type in order to remove traffic lights and pedestrian crossings from the circle. (That's not a round about, that's a circular freeway !)
Traffic in Cities skylines is solved by :
- Zoning responsibly (don't do massive single use areas)
- Providing multiple access roads in and out of freeways and spread them
well (the AI uses the shortest route regardless of congestion). Don't
have your entire freeway ending in a single entrance/exit.
And reducing the need for cars by :
- Encouraging pedestrian traffic (add footpaths shortcuts to reduce walking distance, and use the "crossings" mod to cut long stretches of roads if you have long blocks)
- Adding public transit and freight trains/ships to reduce long distance road usage
"How to Fix Traffic Forever"
"there's no one way to solve traffic"
"we're all condemned to traffic forever."
Exactly what I was thinking!
Fixing traffic requires multiple solutions. Also, he said *unless* cities adopt new policies, traffic won't change. In short -- you're an idiot.
That was rather rude. What are you on about anyways? I merely quoted him.
Quoted him out of context.
Out of context? I don't follow, I haven't used these quotes in any sort of claim or argument, there is no context to take them from.
6:45 actually roundabouts increase pedestrian safety. This is because the travel speeds are much lower and the crossings usually have a protective island. Also the driver has good visibility of the crossing, assuming it's at least slightly set off from the roundabout's ring, which is not the case for multi-lane crossings when the driver is turning right on a red light.
I know for a fact this is NOT true in the EU. Perhaps the numbers are different over in the Americas.
My university has some zebra crossings just ~10m from roundabouts' exits & when many pedestrians cross them (like with a continuous flow for over a minute), the queue of vehicles waiting for them to cross has sometimes backed up all the way into the roundabout, blocking other vehicles from passing through & causing gridlock there
@@lzh4950 Yeah, in a situation like that (not at all suprising if it's at a university where you're naturally going to have *_lots_* of pedestrians), you really do need a signal-controlled intersection, even if only for the crosswalks. You can't have a steady flow of pedestrians across a road without causing serious traffic backups.
@@lzh4950a walking bridge should fix that
So while everybody laughed at India's absence of road-rules, it turned out to be the most advanced traffic-regulating nation to date.
No mate. India has one of the worst death rates on the road in the world. Indian roads are a disaster.
@@MrWoodii what's the death ratio compared to other countries?
@@yellowspike3344 10% of all road accident in the world occurs in India.
well yeah they have a huge population and china has more road accidents because of their population. India suffered a road fatality rate of 16.6 per 100,000 people. which is average compared to the rest of the world which has 17.4. a little bit better than china which is the closest country with the same amount of population, china with 18.8 / 100,000.
@@yellowspike3344 US has 12.4 road deaths per 100k, and our roads are crazy dangerous. The Netherlands has 3.5 per 100k. I don't know why the worldwide average might be 17.4, but India's road safety is ridiculous. And the reason it seems like it isn't the highest is because you're using the wrong metric: when considering road deaths per vehicle, which is to say "how dangerous are the vehicles in this country", India is by far the worst, containing 1% of the world's vehicles but 11% of all the world's vehicular fatalities.
02:25 WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT GUY DOING CHANGING LANES LIKE THAT?!?!?!
You can't fix stupid.
Maxwell Power can you imagine if the car in front of him braked. Boom car crash with three cars or more.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who spotted that crazy shit.
Honest i dont get what he is doing wrong, seems normal lane switch to me. (or maybe its because i never drove a car and dont have a license)
1 2 The driver decided to squeeze into a buffer space between 2 cars, basically tailgating the car in front of him and forcing the car behind him to slow down in order to increase the following distance. This would then force the cars behind that car to also slow down. This whole ordeal probably caused a traffic jam.
Roundabouts are not more expensive to maintain. Sure, there's a little more pavement. But you aren't paying to maintain and power a bunch of signal equipment.
Correct, in the UK at least, its more expensive to maintain a signaled junction.
Roundabouts have been shown to reduce major accidents alright - but increase fender-benders. People should signal when leaving the roundabout, but most are too slow-witted to do so.
@@stephenpowstinger733 exactly they reduced major collisions. Cars entering the roundabout may hit the cars inside, but there won’t be any crashes where two cars hit each other at top speed.
My city council payed 2.4 mill for the roundabout they installed 8 years ago. They usually pay about 850k for a new intersection, 1.3 mill if it's got lights. At 15k a year for power and maintenance for the lights it would be over 70 years before it was the same cost as that roundabout. And because of damage from ice and plowing that round has been repaved twice since it went in. The intersection down the street leading right to the roundabout was being repaved as I moved here 11 years ago and hasn't been since. The city council keeps telling us roundabouts are cheaper. But when ever I dig into it, they're not.
How about an overpass...no slowing and no equipment
Recently went to LA and something I noticed was that virtually every car contained 1 person. Thats a lot of extra drivers.
That's true.
"discomfort is saving lives" is what ergonomic psychology taught me in 2005. Only back then it was all the rage to add that extra red brake light on top of the two already there. After a few years and everyone making it the new normal the effect was lost on reducing collision.
Anyone else triggered at how at 2:22 the car cuts up another one really badly?
+MadMike41 Only if the the guy he pulled in front of had to hit the brakes. I for one don't have a problem with someone pulling in front of me as long as they match my speed or exceed it. It's only when you force people to slow down that problems occur.
Where I live I don't even use my indicator when changing lanes any more. Why? Because people are generally not courteous. As soon as they see me indicate to switch lanes, they accelerate to prevent me from doing so. So fuck'em. I don't indicate, go faster than them, and they don't even know what happened until I'm already in the lane ahead of them. Some even give me the high beams after for completely no reason. I did not make them slow down and have not affected they're driving situation at all. They're just mad because I'm in front.
People are just stupid. Plain and simple.
James Crud yeah, where I live you try to go around some they speed up to prevent you from getting in front of them.. Sometimes ya gotta just stick your ass out and make them slow down.
This sucks. You';re absolutely right, but it still sucks. Like sitting at a stoplight, knowing the guy to your left is gonna try to cut right, I sit back about a wheel width that way I'm not a threat and they don't think about it. Then when i match their speed, they don't have time for their shitty 1997 Windstar to get up enough speed to cut me off.
I'd like to just be able to drive without having to think about shit like this. Instead, you have people "driving" with their foot in the window while on their phone playing pokemon go. (true story, have pictures... my kids pointed this person out)
No, because that's how dense cities drive. . . If you wait for a huge stretch to cut into a lane. . . you'll never be able to change lanes in cities like LA, SF, NY, etc.
Did you see at 5:37 when 2 cars turn around instead of circling the roundabout?
Straight to cities skylines after this one
Mads Hagen my roundabouts dont work in this game, just makes more traffic :(
The DDI works there as well hahah
White I think your building them wrong I have loads of round abouts and they work so well in heavy traffic..even for highways
Have off and on ramps, I've found that tip real handy
My issue with roundabouts in that game isn't that they don't flow smoothly, it's just that traffic gets so bad in other parts of the city that it backs up all the way to the roundabout... then the highway...
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That shared street idea is fascinating, because that’s how roads used to be built, it wasn’t until automobile companies lobbied a lot that people became scared of cars and we resorted to having traffic lights and crossroads, before this drivers just drove carefully and slowly as if they hit someone they would almost always pay the price for it.
"if they hit someone they would almost always pay the price for it."
Wait that is still the case right? Here in Belgium the car doesn't always need to yield for the pedestrian. But if a car does hit a pedestrian, the driver ALWAYS pays the price. But obviously that isn't worth it to die or get injured for.
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At 3:44 the road actually leads to an airport.
Close enough.
Normie
Well csrs are wingless mini planes
"How to fix traffic forever" - 9:37 "There's no one way to solve traffic"
You clearly didn't listen carefully. There is no one way to solve traffic is an optimistic remark. He isn't saying there ISN'T a solution to traffic he is saying there is multiple.
@@LucaPed94 multiple options + any city planning comission =/= optimistic
@@JamesJames-gc2kl okay optimistic wasn't the right choice of words but I was mostly trying to make the person understand that he wasn't saying there isn't a single way there are multiple.
He maeant there is no one magic solution but there is a need for design and smart policies from each city, as each city is different
@@LucaPed94 sound like a trump supporter.
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Me being a Swedish citizen living in Stockholm, I always thought our solution was common in other places to. We do have a great subway and buss system (that are expanding with the population now in 2018).
Wen you plan a trip into town you almost always take the subway or buss. It makes the traffic actually quite effective even in the most traffic jammed places. And I think public transportation is a good solution to the problem.
If you look at cities as Tokyo there is no way for all of their citizens to drive cars. All the major cities should start to expand their public transportation (like electricity driven vehicles) in my opinion.
The Pentaholic ARMY NCTzen Portland is currently planning a new light rail expansion that will go to Tigard. It is getting tons of backlash with many people saying that instead they expand the highway that connects the two cities. In fact, the MAX system as a whole is looked down upon and people call it a failed experiment despite having much better ridership than the DART system in Dallas.
I don't know about other places, but London has a congestion toll. It also has 2 tiers of emissions-based tolling (ULEZ and LEZ), and many cities are in the process of introducing them (Birmingham is getting an LEZ as well as banning cars from the city centre entirely).
Singapore also started charging tolls (under the Area Licensing Scheme (ALS)) for entering downtown 31 years before Stockholm, just as more people were being lifted out of poverty & would've been able to afford cars otherwise. You'd have to buy & display vignettes on your windscreen to legally drive into downtown, that'd be checked by security guards in roadside booths. Heard that slashed the no. of downtown-bound vehicles from 32,500 to 7700, some 12 years before our 1st MRT (subway/metro) line opened
People underestimate how good trains can be. They can hold hundreds of people in one unit with very little carbon emission (compared to every person using a car which drastically increases emission levels), they can reach speeds of up to 200 km/h in some countries which improves travel time, and they can also improve the general health of the surrounding areas, as people are required to at least walk a few hundred metres to reach the railway stations instead of sitting down for the entire way, which only increases if you use a car due to heavy traffic - which trains also will never experience.
In my country trains are so bad they get delayed by hours every single day... and once a train got delayed by 4 hours because of a cow being on the tracks... this is why not that many people use trains here...
Well said. And by the way, trains can reach much more than 200km/h. Some trains today can reach 400km/h and if big oil and car manufacturers didn't block it, they could advance trains to even much faster than that. The biggest block for more efficient, faster and cheaper public transport is the enormous grip that the fossil fuel industry has on politicians and decision making (and more broadly, the biggest obstacle is the capitalist mindset and economic system, which prevents the implementation of excellent solutions that are beneficial for humanity and the biosphere if corporations can't make profit out of those solutions. The mantra of capitalism of 'profit above all else' is what is destroying us on so many levels).
Lastly, check out 'The Venus Project' for a very thorough and deep examination of all of this and proven solutions to completely transform our infrastructure for the better (much much better).
@@Daniel-pr4uk i think humanity as a whole should be reaching a point soon where all countries should try to agree with each other and merge... unifying the whole earth and try to reach for a goal fo humanity like idk becoming a type 1 civilization?... and revising the current capitalist model into something better i guess... or improving it at least in a way it benefited poorer regions... this is a topic of its own and its to much to discuss in just a comment
@@vali69 Trains in my country have a +- of 1-3 minutes. Which is pretty good but Japan has like 30 seconds
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One correction in the section about roundabouts. You are mostly correct, except that head-on collisions are not the most deadly, t-bone crashes are. It is a common misconception that two cars traveling at 50 mph hitting each other head on is equivalent to one car hitting a wall at 100 mph, but if you do the physics, it's not true. Each car absorbs 50% of the energy, and so it's like hitting a wall (assuming the wall is perfectly immovable and absorbs no energy) at 50 mph. However, even hitting something head-on at higher speeds (provided the occupants are wearing their seat belts and are not ejected from the vehicle), the several thousand pounds of metal body, frame, and engine of the car will absorb a lot of the energy before reaching the occupants. Getting T-boned (struck on the side of the car) can be devastating because the only thing between the occupant and the striking vehicle is a few inches of aluminum and plastic, and sometimes an airbag. Roundabouts make it nearly impossible for a t-bone crash to occur if they are designed correctly.
Skip6235 Well even if you are correct, his point of roundabouts being safer still stands since T bone collisions are way more common in intersections than roundabouts.
Yes, roundabouts are MUCH safer, he just got the exact reason a little wrong.
guys he said its safer in the last sentence wtf
Mythbusters proved what you are saying is correct in that a head-on collision at 50 mph is no more damaging than hitting a wall at 50 mph provided the two vehicle are the same weight. But a single car hitting a wall at 100 mph is considerably more damaging by a factor of about 2. If traveling at the exact same speed, the impact point won't change and Newton's law about action/reaction applies. However, if one car is larger, heavier, then the lighter car will suffer more damage than the heavier car because it will move the impact point toward the lighter car relative to the weight difference.
I used to keep getting scolded by my relative for using the inner lane when going straight at a roundabout, probably because some other drivers will use only the outermost lane in a roundabout as they're worried about crashing into other cars when they exit the roundabout from an inner lane, raising the risk of me T-boning some one else or getting T-boned
My solution is to pass through major cities at 02:00am.
WIDE OPEN!!
WHEN everybody's sleeping I'm movin that freight
Truck driving at night is the best.
Except for motorways, cause that's when people take it so damn slow that I have to pass them at 80km/h...
Like, wtf?
@@Skelterbane69 Not every car can brush animals aside at 80km/h like your truck does...
@@Yatsura2 Well, I don't aim at them lol
And I'm talking about people on the motorway, where all animals are fenced off.
@@Skelterbane69 haha, I love cruising along with truckers late at night going like 100mph as we are the only peeps barreling down the road keeping each other awake, and if he heard anything about cops from other truckers he'd warn me and we'd slow down, good times
Actually, destandardization of work schedules is a popular theoretical solution. Instead of one rush hour at 8am and another at 5pm, you could stagger work days so you get half-rush hours at say 7am, 9am, 4pm, and 6pm using infrastructure more efficiently.
I live just a few miles from Poynton and I must say it has worked really well with the new system. I remember being a bit unsure the first time I went through there after the changes, but compared to what it used to be like it's loads better. It's a much calmer place to drive through now.
Remember my first round about when I went down to Maryland to visit my aunt as a kid with my family, love them
These solutions are interesting, but I think we should look at the bigger picture. Regressive zoning laws that require separate districts for business and residential areas are a very modern innovation. If we eliminated more zoning laws, people would be able to theoretically have their businesses within walking distance. Fewer people would choose to use cars because it would become less necessary. The modern system of vast interstate highways and so on is only necessary because we have zoning laws that require people to traverse long distances just to get to work. If we moved businesses into neighborhoods, people would be more invested in their communities and so many problems would be resolved. This is just a general principle, of course it doesn't universally apply. But I was surprised you didn't mention this.
Houston has very few zoning laws but has some of the worst traffic in America. The problem stems from population density, or in Houston's case, a lack thereof. This can be linked to the American dream of owning a big house with a big yard on a cul-de-sac which inherently creates the need to travel by car because the amount of space needed to house just one family. Until more families start to live in more densely populated shared living spaces such as high rise apartments, townhomes, and cohousing projects, our dependence on the car will remain.
Nathanael Harden, shut the fuck up agenda pusher, I dont think you have any idea of what hell it is to live in apartment blocks, especially by communist built ones.
Still you decide to one up that with co-housing and shared homes. You can live in a socialist type dream dorm with other families all you like, but leave me out of that insanity
That is very true, and an even larger picture is the actual economic system we are operating under. It prevents the implementation of excellent sane solutions that are immensely beneficial for humanity and the health of our environment, prevent them if corporations can't make profit out of those solutions.
Our current immature economic system (with its mantras of 'Growth is God' and 'Profit above all else’) sees things like pollution, like destroying our families’ health, like disruption of earth's life supporting systems, sees all these things as "externalities" (this is the actual term they use, you can look it up. The actual term they use toto describe the harm done to humans and planet by the blind drive to increase shareholder returns above all else, regardless of the consequences. They call it an “externality” and it simply doesn't enter into consideration in their decision making process during board meetings).
Capitalism’s iron law of profit above all else and exploiting everything till the last drop for the sake of producing “value” for shareholders (regardless of consequences for people’s health and for our biosphere’s health), this iron law of capitalism fundamentally contradicts the immutable natural laws of delicate balance and interdependence that a planet requires in order to allow for life to exist.
This iron law of capitalism also fundamentally contradicts what the human body needs in order to survive and thrive (clean air, clean healthy water, healthy vibrant food and freedom from pollutants, radiation, stresses and toxins)
(Another claim they make is that we cannot afford that, cannot afford solutions that are beneficial for the people, while at the same time they seem to have no problem affording billions and trillions flowing into the military-industrial complex to maintain a huge corporate empire that terrorizes humanity, kills and maims millions in order to take over the globe's resources and bombs the hell out of anyone who dares to resist the will of our banks and mega-corporations. It currently costs us 917 million dollars EVERY. SINGLE. DAY to maintain this military bullying empire, solely for the sake of corporate profit)
Btw, one VERY wise alternative for our current suicidal corporate path that I came across recently is called ‘Resource Based Economy’ as suggested by 'The Venus Project'. It offers very wise solutions for transport, but goes much MUCH deeper than just that.
Lyle apartments are good, but the ones that us average people can afford, are not good. What if the apartment was privately owned, as each apartment living space was privately owned, and was built to feel like a house?
@@Lyle-xc9pg Apartments can be very good. Don't think there are only communist ones. Italy is plenty of them, I live in one of those myself and can tell you it's very comfortable
OMG NO AIRPLANES? WHERE TF DID YOU KEEP THE REAL WENDOVER PRODUCTIONS?
*DID YOU KEEP*
Real Life Lore stole him
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Watching this video back in November 2022, it’s safe to say that wendovers videos are becoming even better then this one, the best upgrade being saying the metric terms next to the inferior system of measurement
I took a trip with a friend to Switzerland and Germany (from New Jersey - our roads are shit) and was absolutely amazed with how many roundabouts Switzerland had. We could not for the life of us understand why it was necessary. Now I see their value, fascinating
Oh crap it's not about airplanes, I'm panicking!
Why don't these airplanes have wings?
It is, because you can rent cars from airports too.
Next, he'll do a video about normies like you !!
Landplanes.
Haven’t you ever played cities skylines. More lanes never helps.
Nick R hahaha true!
You need more roundabouts!
just disable the traffict lights, works every damn time.
There is also one main factor which increases traffic in spite of increased road capacities: sprawl. The more you extend an urban area, the more you produce traffic. This is, ultimately, why I-10 expansion plans in Houston will always fail, because the same freeway is one of the main catalysts for suburban expansion. By increasing density, you can optimize transit and reduce traffic.
Thanks for this video,now i know how to fix my traffic in my city in theotown, roundabouts is still the best
Traffic is made of cars. Cars can be bought or rented. Rental cars are at airports. Planes land at airports. This is an airplane video.
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This is sooo goood lol
:0 but i like planes
I just had the 7:28 conversation with my mom a couple of hours ago. Here in Florida they've been building a lot of roundabouts. No one really likes them, but I recently heard about the astounding decrease in accidents that accompany them. So I suggested to her that maybe part of the safer nature *is* the fact that everyone's uncomfortable with them. We all stop, look around, and pay attention because we're not quite sure what to do! 😃
it's weird when the machine stops telling you what to do, isn't it
@@TheTpointer Yep! Because we’re all just mindlessly following the machines. Except for you of course. 🙄
Here in Germany, circles are common. Everyone is familiar and comfortable with them. As a long, long, time California driver, I love 'em. Even with the comfort and familiarity level here, they are hugely safer, and in light traffic, traffic moves more smoothly. I believe the discomfort is a less important factor that that they are just better.
When I first moved to Vancouver Canada their major highway was 2 lanes. Traffic was bonkers. They then added three lanes and a few years later added an HOV lane and built the Port Mann bridge which is the widest bridge in the world at 65 meters (213ft). It overtook the Sydney Harbour bridge which is 49 meters (161ft). The times when there is backed up traffic has lowered. Back in the day you didn't bother going over the bridge after 2:30. Now they flow wonderfully. The other thing they did which was not mentioned is the off ramps are way before the actual exit. This gets people off the main highway earlier to ease congestion.
Changing the Jimmy Carter Blvd bridge over I-85 in Atlanta to a diverging diamond has greatly increased the average traffic flow in the area! I know, I worked at the Pappadeaux's there before, during, and after the bridge construction
You made it on Dutch television!
Link pls
Wow awesome
I don't want to sound arrogant, but America is sooo far behind on us. I don't think we would waste tv hours for this, since we already have it all.
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well the only reason would be a comedy show xD. europe, especially the netherlands are trying to completely get cars out of citys. and the us is discovering the roundabout lmfao
i support roundabouts because you can drift them
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In Metro Vancouver & other areas of British Columbia roundabouts have been built to alleviate the problem of both congestion and accident prone intersections. It’s worked out pretty well ... sand as you’d explained, when people are in doubt they venture more cautiously and pay absolute attention.
In my hometown we have almost all the busy intersecions (including highway access) as roundabouts. Apart from rush hour where traffic easily builds up half a kilometer on all mayor streets coming towards the roundabouts, but thats only during rush hour and we have 3 pretty big middle schools (with about a quarter of the students being picked up by car). Outside of rush hour, traffic flows really smoothly, and since I have the ability to skip rush hour it's really nice. No complex pedestrian tunnels/bridges, no diamond highway ramps, just roundabouts, bicycles and busses
2:26 I would rage at that lane splitter so hard
I don't always use my horn, but when that happens, I do.
Seeing that made me panic a little. Hopefully we just have a bad angle and it wasn't so bad.
Didn't even use the blinker
Ahmed Qureshi - He did.
Send to Gulag
I thought this was going to be a "self driving car" fix, but I was pleasantly surprised! Another great video, WendoverPro :)
TylerTech sameeeeee
This is wendover productions not CGP Grey ;)
It's still going to be a self driving car... at least in the long term
I thought the same :D
I have a prediction self driving cars are never going to work
I think watched this three years ago but now I’m watching it again and still intrigued 😂
I know it’s been awhile since this was out but I’d love to see an update video about this topic to see how far the world has come along with these ideas since then
As a Civil Engineer myself, I absolutely love this video. Pretty much everything stated is exactly right. Personally, I am huge fan of diverging diamonds. Wouldn’t be surprised if they become the interchange standard in a few decades.
Darren Munsell What specifically do you think is miss information in this video? You need give more context.
Unfortunately attitudes need to change. As a European, I find it amusing at how many Americans rage about how 'dangerous' roundabouts are, despite them being DEMONSTRABLY safer, with far fewer chances to crash. They're simpler than traditional intersections, too, yet you still get people going on about how they get confused. I think they just prefer waiting for 2 minutes at a red light for a drunk-driver to smash their pickup into them at 60mph head on.
The first piece of misinformation: more lanes does not necessarily mean more capacity. As Katy demonstrates, dramatically increasing the number of lanes dramatically increased travel times. This is not due to induced demand, it's due to the nature of multi-lane roads. If they added an additional parallel roadway and you still wound up with slower travel times, then you could attribute it to induced demand.
Ramp meters work because they force drivers to create forward and lateral spacing between cars, preventing jams and increasing road capacity by increasing average traffic speeds.
Charging for road use decreases road demand, potentially preventing roadways from approaching max capacity during peak periods. This doesn't solve the inherent problem of road design, but it does address the congestion problem regardless of road design.
The video does not address the reason approaching a road's capacity (even by one car at a time) dramatically decreases flow rates, which is vehicle spacing and positioning -- something that individual drivers have direct control over. Drivers tend to bunch up closer as the number of cars on the road increases, which on a multi-lane road cuts drivers off from opportunities to change lanes as needed. Most drivers mistakenly believe that tighter spacing can increase road capacity during heavy periods, which is the exact opposite of the truth. It only increases the chances of additional obstructions, collisions, and distractions -- all of which have a negative effect on flow rates.
Roundabouts are great, because they do not deliberately stop traffic in any given direction, unlike an intersection with Stop signs or traffic signals. Contrary to the video's statement that they accommodate the same number of cars per hour, roundabouts allow much greater traffic flow during peak periods. Drivers easily notice much shorter commutes regardless of direction, after intersections are converted from traffic signals to roundabouts. There are many success stories to support this.
A diverging diamond interchange is great, too. Is it better than a roundabout? I don't know for sure, but since diverging diamonds still use traffic signals, I would lean toward "no." Deliberately stopping traffic for a significant period of time means there's still room for improvement of the concept.
@@JaidenJimenez86 red lights and rising bollards then hahaa
Diverging diamonds are extra dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists because of their high speed and sharp angles. All modes of transportation have a right to cross the interstate. We need to build intersections that respect pedestrians too.
best part about a roundabout, you only have to give way (yield) to ONE direction, whereas a 4-way intersection has to yield in 3 directions
Thank you so much for the wonderful video
The best road concept I have ever seen, is Route 1 in the lower section of Rhode Island (USA) There are two lanes in each direction, but they are separated far enough in a few sections for slightly curved crossover lanes in the middle, eliminating the need for expensive overpasses and traffic signals. More streets need to be one way. Businesses could be moved to between the lanes to make use of the space.
2:25 almost had a heart attack right there
LMao fr I wondered how the hell he ain’t got hit
This video was used on dutch national tv! Zondag Met Lubach
what episode?
@@osamabinladen2018 Dunno, but look for the video about files
supEr did they compensate him?
Haha, I wonder if they dubbed it over? Or subtitles?
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All your videos are so incredibly informational. How do you even get hold of all the examples and info
AWESOME!.... 6:33 is Copley Square, Boston and the walkover pass between malls.
I live in springfield Missouri (US) and we were the first city in the country to have a diverging diamond intersection. As much as everyone here hated it at first, it has reduced travel time and collisions by quite a large margin. Now they are all over town and its really become a staple. Whenever i take a normal ramp, it feels weird. Hopefully the tech to construct them faster comes around so more places can get them quicker.
So you also noticed 9:12 was N Kansas/I-44 near the zoo in springfield
I live in Louisville CO and I saw the diamond intersection for the first time after they been fixing up US36. At first it felt like me saying, "The fuck? Did I just teleport to England" but I immediately grew to love it considering the low traffic flow and how less of a time the lights are red.
I live in Cleveland Ohio we had the first traffic light
Arbelox yep. Stuck out like a sore thumb. The second Wendover mentioned it I was like come on Springfield, make an appearance!
Wil Gall 105th and Euclid right?
8:16 We have a handful of these in Minnesota and they are pure magic.
2:13 gives me anxiety.
When all 8 lanes need to get out at the same exit, there is a major problem and it will take exponentially longer to get to where you need to be and give you a lot of anxiety.
As a guy who has to ride it, it is the worst still. It sucks. The Katy freeway that is.
ted pollock best road in Houston. it's not 59 south or 290 or 610 by the galleria
"As a guy who has to ride it" 😂
ted pollock
Gee, that Katy chick must be hideous.
It looks like you haven't been on Southern California's I-405.
I didn't really know what he was talking about then he showed the bird eye view, I cannot tell you how long I've stared at that fucking tower.
I miss "That Wikipedia List"
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Enlighten me please?
Daryl Luff
Wendover used to have a series called That Wikipedia List, he made a spiritual successor called Half as Interesting.
My Cities: Skylines partners are all like, "tell us something we don't know."
I live in the Woodlands which is North of Houston, and the Texas Department of Transportation hasn’t learned from the Katy expansion as their planning on doing the same thing with I-45 as well as I-35 in Austin.
Lemme tell you, Houston traffic is amazing. I love when a 20 minute drive takes an hour
Didn't mythbusters prove that roundabouts allowed more cars through per hour?
Yes, but I don't think it's surprising to anyone who spent even a minute thinking about it. It's rather obvious.
For the simple fact that you spend less time stationary at a roundabout as compared to a light controlled intersection.
That was a four way stop sign intersection, much different to one with traffic lights. With low to medium amounts of traffic, roundabouts save time compared to signalled intersections. However, with very heavy traffic flows, cars often block each other in roundabouts, causing vehicles to back up and making traffic lights preferable.
Magic roundabout has lights within the roundabout! Most intersections that see heavy traffic aren't suitable for roundabouts anyway, given the footprint. I was thinking in terms of US roads where every city puts a traffic light at every intersection it seems like. A silly practice.
matacoz There is a roundabout next to a bridge in the town I live and people use it fine and there is never any traffic there.
As a pedestrian I love roundabouts at least in Sweden. All of the cars stop when I have to walk over the road so getting to places is so much faster. While waiting for the light takes forever.
My family has been subbed to Blue Apron for a while now.
WHAAAAAT SORCERY IS THIS? WENDOVER MADE A VIDEO WITHOUT MENTIONING A PLANE EVEN ONCE???
interesting 482 what does that have to do with the comment
I noticed that a few weeks ago.
PUT ALL THE TRAFFIC ON PLANES
The Technomancer did you know a 747 taxing to the gate takes up more fuel then a blimp does in a week
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Surely the easiest way to combat traffic is to run more flexible work hours?
I worked for awhile from 10AM to 6PM. It was great to miss rush hour.
You'd probably need a 24 hour standard for that. Where I live, it takes over an hour to travel 20 miles even up until 8pm. Although of course it is worse at 5-6pm where it can take 2 hours.
Teleworking is even more effective to combat traffic. Combine that with flexible work hours for people using transport and your streets could become an infinite park almost free of traffic.
Or just put in public transport? And tax cars heavily.
Most office jobs could be done from home i believe
Here in Ontario, Canada for highways we have a fairly standardized design in urban areas called the Parclo A-4 interchange . It's very safe design, in rural areas the ramp design are based on a variety of factors
The Parclo B4 is simply superior because while the highway traffic regardless if they make a left or right they dont stop while in both interchanges the arterial straight through traffic has to stop at lights
Where I've seen DDIs fail is when traffic magnets are too heavily weighted on one side. For example, if to the west of that DDI you have malls, restaurants and other services, and to the east you have factories, homes or other places that collect large groups of people that consume those services at similar times, the DDI makes coordinating one-directional saturation very difficult.
Didn't watch the video yet, but being a Wendover fan I already know the solution will be planes haha
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Gabriel Costa or not...
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I just have one question, How are round a bouts more expensive to maintain wendover? traffic lights are electronic and get knocked over almost everytime there is a crash. What is there to maintain in a round a bout??
I am curious also, as most research supports that roundabout maintenance is equal or less than a traditional intersection.
Speculation mode engaged: It's probably because there's more road surface to keep up. Asphalt isn't as cheap as it once was.
There's also often a garden in the middle of the roundabout (at least here in the UK), so that requires some upkeep too, although I doubt it's all that significant.
HTYY • hit traffic lights will almost certainly be paid for by the insurance of the offender!
Roads are much more epxensive than traffic lights which rarely need maintenance
it now cost up to 45 kronor ($5) to enter congestions zone in Stockholm and if you leave, it is another 45 kronor. The maximum payable in one day is about 145 kronor. There are about 4 different prices set to enter or leave the congestion zone. These are determined by the time of day.
In the uk theres a place called milton keynes and it was designed to have free flowing traffic they have a main road system set up like a grid of horizontal and vertical routes interconnected wuth roundabouts, without a doubt they least congested city ive ever drove in
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Sad no mention of the one simple rule to stopping traffic:
LEAVE SPACE BETWEEN YOUR CAR AND THE ONE IN FRONT.
Seriously, the biggest cause of traffic is the backwards propagation of a slow-down. If you drive at a constant speed, allowing enough space to account for the car in front slowing down, you stop the backwards propagation of traffic in its tracks.
It's also important to let people take the space and leave more space. It's the "turn the other cheek" of driving.
I'd wager tailgating causes more traffic than it does crashes for that simple reason that many drivers fail to understand. You have to hit the brakes slightly harder than the driver in front of you and that filters on back until it eventually forces traffic to stop and then it gets longer and longer and then there's a "ghost" traffic jam for the next hour, lol. US drivers for the most part only care about themselves though and can't be bothered to help everyone out and cause less traffic jams.
Anthony Khodanian Seems like somebody has been watching cgp grey
While this is a good rule to follow, this isn't a solution in terms of policy. The world would be so much easier to manage is people all diligently followed rules, but alas, they don't. You have to work with what you have - that's what public policy, urban design, etc. spend all their time figuring out how to do. Good solutions - in any field - work with people as they are, not as you may wish they were.
Practically nothing will work with US drivers. There's no proper driving education here. And it shows, in everything drivers do. I can't make the 30 minute country commute to my work without encountering a handful of idiot decisions each way.
it also allows cars merging at speed to not slow down the whole merging lane!
Honestly should talk about how city design, public transit, and other factors can affect a cities traffic. I think there are even more factors at play then what’s mentioned here
Roundabouts are ok when it’s summer. Living somewhere like I do, in the winter it gets to like -30 F fairly often. And they don’t clear the roads well, roundabouts are horrible in ice and snow.
Welcome to Montana from October through May.
I just moved from Finland, where there are many roundabouts. I had no problems in the winter.
Prediction: just use airplanes
Yeah, people should just fly from their house to work. I mean, everyone has an airplane in their garage. It's stupid to not use them.
Julian Galesi an ELETRIC JET VTOL is the obvious final solution as Elon Musk himself said many times.
Julian Galesi use a bicycle
Just stop driving*
Julian Galesi unfortunately, air traffic is a thing too.
The number one cause of traffic I see here in L.A. is people who wait until the last second to merge and change lanes. People will literally stop in a lane of travel on the freeway to not miss their exit. People need to take personal responsibility and take the next fucking exit instead of holding everyone up.
Just to be clear for a moment here - late merges where you have multiple lanes going down to fewer lanes (i.e. a 3 lane road, rightmost lane is ending and merging into the middle lane) is what you should be doing when traffic is heavy. Merging early creates multiple merge points of which each point has an additional slow down as well as leaving usable lanes wide open, which just makes the back up longer.
Though that doesn't apply to merging late to get out of an exit-only lane or merging late to get to an off ramp.
I'd personally fix LA highways by reducing the number of on-ramps available. The 405 and I-10 are perhaps the best examples for this issue, since every major street has an on-ramp for the freeway. Traffic can improve if less options are provided to the typical driver. Braess's paradox dictates how traffic will function.
tomyourmom and slow cars to stay out of the left lanes
It's where the optic nerve enters the eyeball!
Over here we have huge signs next to highways telling people to only merge ⛜ at the last second to speed up traffic.
I won't lie, the video was very informative, but I also beat a super hard level of a game on my phone while watching, so for that, I thank you
The diamond on ramps are all along the i-15 in Utah and are very useful
In 2013 I wrote my Bachelor's thesis on this (congestion charging). And you genuinely outclassed my work inside 3 minutes. Love your videos - looking forward to the next!
And now you can point to this video as a summary of said thesis 🙂
Thank you for that, lol :)
This video was used in the Dutch televison program: Zondag met Lubach’
Wow, cool! Did they dub it in Dutch?
@@chipskylark5500 they subbed it, don't know why they would dub it
@Darren Munsell Whut?
"they require a bigger footprint" lol in my city we have tiny intersections in the hill suburbs with just a white circle painted in the middle, maybe three feet diameter, and that makes it a roundabout haha
That converging diamond looks like a nightmare compared to just having 2 roundabouts like we have in Australia
It sure look that way, but you just keep to the same rules you're used to. Every junction is one you're already familiar with. It's a great example of emergent behaviour.
Why not just take all the traffic and push it somewhere else?
Nilgizmo is this a spongebob reference
That idea might just be crazy enough... to get us all killed!
Yes
Nilgizmo you need to run for mayor
next video: how to move traffic to the sky
But CGP Grey said self driving car would solve traffic forever...
Still it needs a parking spot, which takes up 25 square meters, or 220 square feet.
It will, this would be a good solution if self-driving cars weren't an imminent thing.
It will, just not in the near future. These one here are a tad implementable in the meantime.
A parking spot that is... somewhere else
You think roundabout will be built faster than autonomous cars that are planned to come out in 2018?
It was an extremely bizarre experience for me that your slide show of roads around the world featured pictures of my home town, the place I lived for my first job, and the place I currently live.
I was thinking something in the lines of “keep driving” but this works too