LED Panel vs Point Source | What Light Should You Use?

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  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
  • In this video, I talk about the difference between a point source light and LED panel light and why you may want to use one over the other.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 231

  • @TylerEdwards
    @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +15

    Panel or point source? What’s your choice?? Comment below! 👇👇

  • @stevenp6761
    @stevenp6761 2 роки тому +113

    I learnt this from Hungary's most famous portrait photographer (he used to work in Hollywood, unfortunately he died a few years ago at age +90): Almost everyone's nose is curving a bit towards the left or the right, and to counter-balance this in photography, you want to place the main light on the "shorter" side. For example: if you look at this video, his nose is going towards his left, but he placed the light on his right. This makes the curvature effect more prominent. So ideally, he should have placed the main light on the other side, on his left - and the shadow would hide / lessen the curvature. This is something that very few photographers know, it was only thought by great masters in the early / mid 20th century.

    • @michelbeeler8103
      @michelbeeler8103 Рік тому +11

      Now i can't unsee it 😄
      Didn't knew this trick

    • @manzelllyles1804
      @manzelllyles1804 Рік тому +2

      This mainly applies to photography or still, non-moving subjects such as interviews. For action or moving shots, depending on where the actor is headed, you may not always be able to likgt the subject's "good side." That being said, photography subjects are usually not in motion, and if you are shooting in a studio, you can predict or direct their movement. There are lots of photographers who emphasized how to study the face, as well as how to light & pose subjects to enhance their good side & hide flaws. Two popular options I readily know are Monte Zucker and Clay Blackmore, both who were portrait masters. Monte was a Canon "Explorer of Light," was the United Nations Photographer of the Year, and created the Monte Zucker Pneumatic Posing Stool and Westcott's Monte Illuminator Reflector, along with some of their light kits (many discontinued; he passed in 2007). He had an online social forum for photographers at Zuga.net (also closed) where he taught how to study the face, critiqued images, and coached photographers. There are quite a few current famous high-end photographers who came from that website. He died awhile ago, but I'm sure you can find many books and videos he made about portrait photography and studying & lighting the face. Some of the poses and looks may be dated, but his insight is still worth looking up.

  • @flypieTV
    @flypieTV 2 роки тому +30

    Great video. I’ve been looking for this info for several hours and you’ve nailed it. Don’t worry about the rambling, be confident in your expertise and know that those of us who are less experienced are grateful to you for sharing.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you!! I appreciate the kind words!

  • @jeetabhii
    @jeetabhii Рік тому +3

    Your ‘rambling’ is of so much value for someone trying to gather knowledge about various lights! Thanks, man 😊 Cheers!

  • @shadowshapers
    @shadowshapers 3 роки тому +6

    I love a great nerdy ramble about technical stuff related to filmmaking. Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      🙏🙏🙏 thanks so much for the kind words!!

  • @MsQwerasdf1234
    @MsQwerasdf1234 3 роки тому +5

    accidentally found your channel , stayed and watched every single one of ur vids. damn it's good!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      A happy accident! Thanks for the kind words!

  • @prahinc4832
    @prahinc4832 9 місяців тому

    In the opening how you explain how a really good video should be like is so valuable. The details that matter is often the hardest to understand until someone points it out. Thank you

  • @aristomenis_k
    @aristomenis_k 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent video Tyler, very well organized even without the script. I was searching for a panel vs cob light comparison video and I was happy to rewatch yours!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      Thanks man! Glad you dropped by as always!

  • @lamontmcleod2
    @lamontmcleod2 3 роки тому +27

    Great job man. Fellow Filmmaker sent me, and this was a good video.
    At the end you mentioned how turning the lights at the back off made it seem more serious... That's something that not enough youtubers talk about, so if you ever wanna talk about what lights create what mood, I for one would be very interested to hear that!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks so much! It is definitely something I plan on talking about in a future video!

    • @alexsanroman3861
      @alexsanroman3861 3 роки тому

      I second that idea. That would be a very interesting video to watch.

  • @fr.loomis997
    @fr.loomis997 2 роки тому +2

    This was by far the most helpful video on this topic I’ve seen. I also appreciate the mention of specific products/companies so I know where to begin my search. All this talk about lights, I couldn’t stop watching the sun moving across the windows between cuts, haha.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful! haha ya, it would probably be way less noticeable if I just used a teleprompter and run through it in one take hahah

  • @hedgehogenglish
    @hedgehogenglish 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks! This video is really helpful. I'm trying to figure out what kind of lighting I need right now and it is so much more difficult than I first imagined.

  • @terranceroberts2919
    @terranceroberts2919 3 роки тому

    Your rambling is appreciated you know your stuff so it's not just ramblings

  • @schuey323
    @schuey323 3 роки тому +3

    As always, fantastic video Tyler. I’m already utilizing my 300D2 to the max just like you are. Utterly salivating over that P300 Nova! That’s the next lighting investment.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      I appreciate the feedback Didier! The nova is a fantastic tool for sure!

  • @brianlach
    @brianlach 2 роки тому +1

    This is great! Thanks so much for sharing your insight, love this sort of detailed explanation.

  • @MotMovie
    @MotMovie 3 роки тому +6

    Don´t worry about the rambling etc. I think you were on the message all the time and it was all surprisingly coherent regarding how free flowing and understated it all felt. Subscribed based on just this video. Just keep doing what feels right and don´t overproduce yourself, I think you got something airy and nice going there ;)

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much for the kind words!

  • @CrispyAF
    @CrispyAF 3 роки тому +10

    The lighting is so good in this! 🙌

  • @LeonidZabolotin
    @LeonidZabolotin 3 роки тому +1

    I've been searching for a video that would explain to me which light is better for me and I finally found this information here in this video. Thank you very much!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      Wow, that’s so awesome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul 2 роки тому +1

    Very helpful explanation & examples thank you.

  • @cevxj
    @cevxj Рік тому +1

    Bro, i subscribed at 43 seconds, that lighting is great. didn't notice cause it's also good, but audio is at a comfortable level 🥲✨

  • @WonderFilm
    @WonderFilm 3 роки тому +4

    Wow! This video was incredible. I love how you talk about the different creative applications. It definitely helped me see the different uses of a point source. I'm trying to buy some lights and this really helped me see the difference.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching and so glad it was helpful!

  • @1001Hobbies
    @1001Hobbies Рік тому +5

    VERY INFORMATIVE video. Something else to hit on is probably the fact that the 300d MK II COB light and P300C are likely around 15 - 20% brightness, meaning a person can get away with much cheaper and less bright lights. Lights the level of an Amaran 60d (no yet available at the time of this video I realize) and a P60c (also not yet available, but I own both these lights) would also light this scene exactly the same on a much lower budget. Yes, there are times when more light is needed for a different shooting situation, but for this dimly lit scene smaller lights (and lower cost) would do just as well of a job. I have only used the full 100 watts of my 100d a couple times. About 85-90% of the time I am using 15 - 35%, and that is why I also picked up an Amaran 60d, which can also be powered off of Sony NP-F batteries for convenience when power is not otherwise available.

  • @a.singleton8529
    @a.singleton8529 Рік тому

    Excellent comparison LED Panel vs Point Source. Awesome!

  • @MIGUELANAYASUBSCRIBE
    @MIGUELANAYASUBSCRIBE 3 роки тому +1

    This video was extremely helpful Thankyou for makeing this video 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @marksaustralia6464
    @marksaustralia6464 2 роки тому

    Informative, and paced well. Thanks.

  • @asmakhan1632
    @asmakhan1632 Рік тому

    i really wanted to see how you set it up or which light you were talking about, as you talked about it so a pov/bts video, even off a phone camera would've been really useful! thanks for giving the other tips and easy to understand pros&cons list!!

  • @emiliesheng
    @emiliesheng 9 місяців тому

    Great video, I find it very helpful and well explained! thank you!

  • @alphapyro360
    @alphapyro360 3 роки тому

    I like the real world examples. Would love more!

  • @aorzya
    @aorzya 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the info! Packed with info and at the same time easy to understand.

  • @markokovacevic3225
    @markokovacevic3225 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation Tyler!

  • @freddymiguelponce
    @freddymiguelponce Рік тому

    First time in your channel. Great video!

  • @frame88multimedia
    @frame88multimedia 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for glossing over quickly for the more experienced guys. Sometimes videos can get a little to teachy about bunch of stuff you don't care about or sound like an infomercial Get Job!

  • @jasoncha1148
    @jasoncha1148 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another great video Tyler!! Keep it up!

  • @mateoallen
    @mateoallen 2 роки тому +1

    I love the lighting in this shot! Great image

  • @alexchen1981
    @alexchen1981 Рік тому +1

    Very useful advice, thank you

  • @dadknowsbest3329
    @dadknowsbest3329 3 роки тому +2

    Great work, always enjoy the content 🙌🏻

  • @kenanali586
    @kenanali586 2 роки тому

    No, no need scripts, this is way better. Subbed and liked. I never like or dislike, but this got it.

  • @scott_the_dreamer
    @scott_the_dreamer 2 роки тому

    always loved your content brotha

  • @wiremonkeyshop
    @wiremonkeyshop 2 роки тому +2

    I thought you were concise and very informative. Good stuff! I would have loved to have seen more setups, but I know, lots of time.

  • @ChrisHerath
    @ChrisHerath 3 роки тому +9

    Great video, I think YT needs more lighting-related content instead of only camera reviews. It's tough to find good quality lighting videos. Saving up for the Nova now and love my set of 300dii's.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Chris! I appreciate you dropping by. I agree, if there was as much emphasis on lighting as “cinematic b-roll,” there would be much more cinematic content on UA-cam 😂

    • @ChrisHerath
      @ChrisHerath 3 роки тому +1

      @@TylerEdwards I would like to see a tutorial on lighting a wide interview shot. For example, interviewee on a stool and having one camera wide head to toe, second camera tight. Struggling to get it right since the key has to be far away.

  • @videocasetteTV
    @videocasetteTV Рік тому +1

    Awesome keep posting like this, your explanation is better than text books

  • @carlosq00
    @carlosq00 3 роки тому +1

    Great video with a lot of very useful info bro! The more I learn about light the harder and harder it is to pick any one single type. haha

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      Thanks bro! And I agree. Great thing there are so many great options out there on the market! Appreciate you brother!

  • @billf8217
    @billf8217 Рік тому +1

    Very thorough

  • @visionairecreativehouse1734
    @visionairecreativehouse1734 3 роки тому +1

    Great insight! Thank you! 🙏

  • @BenCaesar
    @BenCaesar Рік тому +1

    Dude I honestly learnt so much. Instant sub

  • @vanessamarlowe
    @vanessamarlowe 2 роки тому +1

    This was so helpful! Thank you!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  2 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching! 🙏

  • @moshezuchter
    @moshezuchter 3 роки тому +1

    Love your videos. Super informative. Thanks!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much! Glad you liked the video!

  • @panomavridis
    @panomavridis 3 роки тому

    To the point. very helpful! what I needed at the time...

  • @atogweoghieaga2205
    @atogweoghieaga2205 Місяць тому

    Quite informative. Keep on!

  • @WealthyPanda
    @WealthyPanda Рік тому +1

    Very informative video. Thank you 😊

  • @winstonvlogs
    @winstonvlogs 3 роки тому +1

    Very insightful video!

  • @SustainableGal
    @SustainableGal 3 роки тому +1

    It's way better when you ramble on my friend - we get way more info! great vid as always

  • @MikeEdwardsphotography
    @MikeEdwardsphotography 3 роки тому +1

    Well presented. Thank you.

  • @edinechannel5704
    @edinechannel5704 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome man, greetings from Indonesia

  • @rapbisnar
    @rapbisnar 3 роки тому

    love this setup

  • @chadbarnard3620
    @chadbarnard3620 Рік тому +1

    Lighting has always been that scary thing that I think I'm going to mess up so this was super helpful to just take a step back and remember the basics

  • @MultiDoudou22
    @MultiDoudou22 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video, very helpful!

  • @PandaUTC
    @PandaUTC 2 роки тому +2

    that is a lot of info here, thanks

  • @MBimmer
    @MBimmer 2 роки тому

    Well that was very informative 👍🏼 thank you

  • @delluxesports6392
    @delluxesports6392 2 роки тому +1

    Great video my man

  • @johnnuckolls7795
    @johnnuckolls7795 3 роки тому +1

    Great and informative video.

  • @aleclatulippe
    @aleclatulippe 5 місяців тому

    Very valuable, thank you!

  • @2cats1guy
    @2cats1guy 3 роки тому

    Really helpful. Thank you.

  • @nerdynicknacksandgeekygear8682

    I have a Nova and I adore it. But I find myself pushing my 60D through a scrim to be my go-to when I'm out in the field.

  • @shapeofpi
    @shapeofpi 2 роки тому

    Hi Tayler, fantastic video! Lot of great info packed in there and, quite frankly, it's the only video I've stumbled upon that goes deeper into this comparison. Great job!
    Could you give me your advice? I currently own the and constantly use 120D II, along with a few smaller bicolor panels, but I find myself needing a lot more light. I'm contemplating whether I should go for a 300D II or the Nova P300c? I do plan on getting both, but not sure which one to go for first. Point source is a more versatile option, plus the 300D II is a bit brighter (Is there a very big difference in output in your experience?), but having the color control brings another league of creativity (not a fan of gels on very bright and hot lights unless I absolutely have to use them haha). If it were my first light I'd definitely go for the 300D II, but since I've got the 120D II, I'm not sure. What would you go for since you've got both? Thank you!

  • @dewaynetodalen4491
    @dewaynetodalen4491 Рік тому +1

    Hi Tyler, thanks for this video. We are in Parker, Colorado.

  • @aleksanderwicherski8145
    @aleksanderwicherski8145 3 роки тому +1

    thank you for the video! I love your lighting setups, they are super informative and I can learn tons from them! would love to see the BTS picture of the setup if you could include it in the future! thank you so much and looking forward to more of this awesome content!!!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much! I have quite a few lighting breakdown videos on my channel!

    • @DuffTV
      @DuffTV 2 роки тому

      Brilliant information, lobe your vibe. Maybe just slow down the speech a tad. We are a bit slow over here in OZ. Lol

  • @jdlmediaco3541
    @jdlmediaco3541 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers 🍻 thanks for the break down

  • @timgleaves9496
    @timgleaves9496 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the info!

  • @asmr_reviews
    @asmr_reviews Рік тому +2

    Great video! 👍🏼 I’m based in Colorado to

  • @EricvanVuuren
    @EricvanVuuren 3 роки тому +1

    Thnx for the video, love your style 🤟🏻

  • @SteveHubbardGuitar
    @SteveHubbardGuitar Рік тому

    Well done sir! Subbed.

  • @gldigitalproductions3489
    @gldigitalproductions3489 3 роки тому

    Thanks. Have both now. Will use them more intentionally and informed now.

    • @ronynikke
      @ronynikke 2 роки тому

      Hello... so spotlight vs soft which is more soft putting diffusion panel in a spotlight ?

  • @OliGudbjartsson12
    @OliGudbjartsson12 2 роки тому

    Great video, you do know your stuff!

  • @jhlee6369
    @jhlee6369 Рік тому +1

    great video!! thanks

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  Рік тому

      Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

  • @bralynstokes9193
    @bralynstokes9193 3 роки тому +2

    At first I thought your window light was just tube lights sitting behind difussion curtains. I thought that's brilliant and looks really good! Then the light changed and realized it was the actual sun lol. Might be something to recreate. It was beautiful.

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +1

      Haha good idea! I might have to make a video on that! Thanks for watching!

  • @dammithfonseka6302
    @dammithfonseka6302 Рік тому

    Great video cheers

  • @BrandonLiUnscripted
    @BrandonLiUnscripted 3 роки тому +13

    Shotdeck user I see ;-) Thanks for the info!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +5

      Haha definitely! Love shotdeck!! Thanks for dropping by, love you’re work!

  • @steve7015
    @steve7015 2 роки тому

    Trying to get first lights and this really helped.
    Gonna go for the point source light for now.
    Thanks!
    wondering, how many watts from single point source would I need of studio portraits?

  • @brentpaul
    @brentpaul 3 роки тому

    Great vid. Great lighting. Since you asked for a tip on he video, I wouldn’t say what you’re gonna talk about next, just talk about it. And a script would help, or at least bullet points. Thanks for the info.

  • @talkintruthelliotkillian
    @talkintruthelliotkillian 2 роки тому +1

    nice, helpful video, Ramble On 😉🤘

  • @TheTsatsiz
    @TheTsatsiz 2 роки тому

    Great Content Man, keep it up

  • @MrJPG1000
    @MrJPG1000 3 роки тому

    Really great, lots of information and nice visual examples, and I like the speed talking. Alas, if you are relatively inexperienced (and the theme is so basic, it addresses the novices ...), you might have difficulties with all the specific names. A beginner perhaps doesn't know what a "Two-by" is, or what the specifics of a "Skylight" are ...

  • @khoaidol
    @khoaidol 2 роки тому

    Thanks mate

  • @Praxiszooms
    @Praxiszooms 2 роки тому

    fantastic help!

  • @paudoingstuff
    @paudoingstuff 2 роки тому

    Really informative and to the point. Great video! Subscribing to see more of your videos.

  • @wheimsickal
    @wheimsickal 3 роки тому +3

    As far as your rambling on dude, the information density remains high throughout so it works great, at least for me. Rambling to me would be more like talking at length with low information density where it feels like time wasted without any new information. Love your format and B-roll example footage choices - just subscribed :D

  • @make_malvina_up
    @make_malvina_up Рік тому

    Really informative and helpful. Thank you for making this video.I am in the market for the best lighting for beauty/makeup tutorials. Do you suggest a led or point source for makeup tutorials? Also, how many lights do you think are a must for filming makeup tutorials ?

  • @a.b.5757
    @a.b.5757 2 роки тому

    Really great explanation of lighting techniques. I am about to start a kids you tube channel and can't decide between 200x and 200d. The possibility to define exact color temperature seems to be a great and practical feature but then I will loose a lot of light power. Which model would you recommend?

  • @ValentijnStomp
    @ValentijnStomp Рік тому

    Loving the look, what kind of filtration did you use?

  • @abdurrahmanghanem8499
    @abdurrahmanghanem8499 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the video.
    Are the soft boxes (with regular bulbs) out of comparison because they are less reliable than the LED panel or point source? I want to know your opinion about them, specially those which are marketed with (45w x 12 bulb ... and so on).
    Thank you again.

  • @cookify6875
    @cookify6875 3 роки тому +2

    Really interesting and well explained, I just checked your buttery luts and im interested for my R5, but i see that the clog one was made for the EOS R, that was 8 bit instead of 10 bit. Are you planning on releasing one for the R5 / R6? Thanks again mate!!

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому

      For my canon LUTs, head over to www.tylerfedwards.com/luts There you will find clog 1,2&3 luts which work for all canon cameras.

  • @MARZILLI
    @MARZILLI 3 роки тому +1

    Nice job!

  • @rafaelherreralases2426
    @rafaelherreralases2426 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing content!!!

  • @user-nu8bf3bf9m
    @user-nu8bf3bf9m 2 роки тому +1

    Which heat shield gel do you use on set? I happened to melt my color gel with my Aputure 300d mkII before and was looking for a solution so it'll be great if you tell me which one is right for your setup.

  • @ggt1380
    @ggt1380 3 роки тому

    This was awesome

  • @JohnnyJayVisuals
    @JohnnyJayVisuals 3 роки тому

    looking for intros to lighting and find out your based in the same state as me thats so dope!!

  • @PopartFilms
    @PopartFilms 3 роки тому +1

    Nice job, Tyler. Love the video. Visuals are gorgeous too. You live in Denver as well?

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! And yup, I am near Boulder!

    • @PopartFilms
      @PopartFilms 3 роки тому

      @@TylerEdwards Nice. We moved here from Chicago and I'm still looking for a solid place to rent high end video shoot equipment from. Not nearly as many options here, if any. Recommendations?

  • @thegenerousthief
    @thegenerousthief Рік тому +1

    Great clip man! For a guy who’s just starting the hunt to get my first light this was a bang on. I went to look at the apurture 300II and the 60 today. 60 is small and versatile but I feel like I’m gonna grow out of it pretty fast. You think the 120 is a happy medium or should I just go all out and hit the 300 !?
    Cheers,
    James

    • @TylerEdwards
      @TylerEdwards  Рік тому +1

      I’m always in favor of more output! Better to have it just in case is my philosophy

  • @z.onurcaliskaner7637
    @z.onurcaliskaner7637 2 роки тому +1

    Hi. I have really benefited. I would like to ask something herein. Actually i would like to obtain a light beam in haze in the scene 7:05, for instance. In this scene, a nice light beam was coming from the window behind. Which type of source, i mean panel led or point spot, do you recommend to achieve a haze like that. Thanks in advance :)

  • @juju10683
    @juju10683 Рік тому

    Really nice video. The only way to improve since you’re someone who rambles would be to have a recap of bullet points at the very end.