I play highstakes and this is actually a good check back hand in 4-bet pot. Especially without club in your hand. You protect your checkback range and you either far ahead or far behind. And getting check raised on this kind of board always sucks. You are drawing dead against sets, you are behind of QJ of clubs and you are not getting called by worse with K high board for this size. Check back and evaluate, you dont have much behind, you still can jam some turns and rivers if you want. If you bet this kind of flop and get raised in 4-bet pot, you have to fold AK no club, its a simple decision.
Same here, without looking results and knowing villain is spewy and steaming, I'd just get it in on the flop. So many draws vs possible set, just a bad beat that he had TT this time. Villain might do same with KQo for all we know.
Well he called the 4 bet so I’d say he’s probably 10/10+ or suited broadways only, so when he check raises flop that seemed like set of 10’s to me, or 10x clubs combo draw, so what’s callers equity in that spot? Probably good to call but not jam.
I don't play anymore, but still watch these vids and learn a ton. The one thing I've seen is that if you have these folks that will call all the way down, when they start raising! your antenna should go up. That said, this is a very tough hand to play for the caller.
I had a bad feeling about that hand from jump street. That monster re-raise on the flop was the decision point. It was out of character for villain and he made it clear he was going for stacks. I might have waved the white flag on that one.
I think you talking about betting smaller in the results section on flop/preflop you are being results oriented.b Your preflop size was perfect for 5 handed IMO. Your size on the flop made sense too, for the reasons you suggested earlier in the video. There are lots of draws out there for potential straights and flushes. He shows up with a flush draw so much more often than TT here, just unfortunate this was that time.
How else do you play AK, if someone has a set that's just unfortunate whether guy is maniac or tight in which case one should just fold preflol but who does that.
If you fold here you actually only defend KK therefore, so no folds lol. Hand plays itself. It's a big one but its a 4! pot against someone whos losing and tilted, play on and win the next one. If villain makes worse decisions than you (he's never folding and vice-versa) you're at worst break even. This is just variance, not a real brain scratcher.
While AK here should be a flop jam or call down in theory, solver is raising sometimes with naked AQ-AJs gutshots, random 6x blocking the set, naked QJs open ender, etc... In these spots even splashy villians probably don't make these kind of bluffs and is probably weighted too strongly towards combo draws making AK a fold.
I think the check raise on the river is either a signal that villain is going for stacks, or has a good but vulnerable hand against hero’s range (AA, AK). KTs or 66. I was a bit surprised to see a big check raise with TT on that board because hero doesn’t have a ton of draws to beat TT. I think it’s a bad beat, can’t fold top pair on a dry board to every check raise 🤷♂️
1. It’s the flop not the river. 2. How is 66 a “vulnerable hand”? It has AA and especially AK crushed. 3. Folding TPTK on a dry board would make sense. This isn’t a dry board, there’s tons of draws, hence the call.
I think his sizing was actually appropriate given what he knew about his opponent and the large check raise gives more info than a small bet + check raise would have.
I have a buddy who’s a losing player who’d for sure check-raise the flop on the flush draw and/or straight draw on this board, even with the pre-flop action. I for sure would have gotten stacked against him 😂
I’d want to check-raise TT and KT on this board. I feel if you’re check-raising those hands you need to have some bluffs. Obviously raising every straight and flush draw is too much, but you should raise some of the best combo draws right?
Yeah your buddy doesn't play with $50k in front of him though. It's very difficult to x/r at the correct frequency here. You won't find many videos where the 1 pair is actually good in the $100k pot 1000BB pot.
I know this channel is geared towards live player low and mid stake exploits but I thought I'd point out that most of the time solvers will have you flatting AK in position and 4-betting it out of position even more so when you are deep. For example, running this exact scenario through PokerSnowie 4 my only value 4-bet is AA@100% and the only bluff 4-bets are ATs@5% A9s@8% A8s@9% A7s@38% A6s@34% A5s@5% A4s@34% A3s@69% A2S@100% though it would make the 4-bet a bit larger (4,600). This works out to around 12 combos of bluffs and 6 combos of AA.
Before reveal...Just odd I think people get way to married to AA, KK, and AK post flop...sure maybe he has A10c or QJc but or QQ, JJ but this still feels like 1010 if the guy has a clue but if he's on tilt maybe not. Post reveal....well pretty much as expected...
@@shapeofillusionI’d say AQcc and AJcc are also possible. 66 seems unlikely to call a 4 bet oop. Feels really nitty to fold AK to the flop check raise, but against a lot of players you probably can.
That 16K raise screams of BLUFF or trips (edit: set). I would maybe call and see if I improve. If not I would definitely check fold. This deep to go all in on 1 pair? Wow. Also hero said villain was calling down so for him to raise after the 5.5K bet is also showing strength.
You can’t call the flop raise and then fold a non-club turn. The only reason to call the flop raise is if you think he has a lot of bluffs on the flop that will continue bluffing on the turn. If he’s got a set (not trips, which is impossible) then “improving” on the turn isn’t going to help you.
Talk about bloating a pot. Anyways, this hand is very player dependent. But villain has to be a bit laggy for AK to be good when it's check-raised here. Hero is totally uncapped. He 4 bet pre. He has lots of AA, KK, AK in his range. Villain should really have KT, TT, 66 here. But people think AK is magical. Honestly, the only reasonable semi-bluff is QJcc. And AK is not a huge favorite against that. I would not have played this as hero did, but if I had then I'm folding the flop absent some kind of read on villain.
It's good to have high stakes hands on the show. It gives people an idea how to think at different levels and will ultimately make them better players. Plus I enjoy about hearing someone losing almost 50 thousand dollarsm hahab
I think it's generally accepted that most players don't 3bet/ 4bet enough and are too passive. People don't find enough check raises especially not for $45k. And yet so often people seem to get into these ego battles at the table "he's playing back at me" "he's 3betting light" and then are surprised when they run into monsters in every big pot.
For what it’s worth this 4 bet is a little wide at 450bb. Unsuited hands go way down in value this deep. Unless we are saying he is just pure tilt and vpiping as a 3bet at a 5x size way to wide. This hand serves as a call most of the time
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I am only calling a check raise on the flop here vs a snazzy donkey. most players are never check raising a king/ace high board in a 4 bet pot since your hand looks like AK or better.
no one will respond, but imma put this out there - if you flop Top pair and you have the BEST kicker in the deck, you go big. no? you push these draws and these middle pairs or Qs the heck out of there. if they call or raise then at least you know what they got. am i wrong?
When caller said he rarely 4-bet preflop that night, villain flop raise got a bit more worrisome imo
I play highstakes and this is actually a good check back hand in 4-bet pot. Especially without club in your hand. You protect your checkback range and you either far ahead or far behind. And getting check raised on this kind of board always sucks. You are drawing dead against sets, you are behind of QJ of clubs and you are not getting called by worse with K high board for this size.
Check back and evaluate, you dont have much behind, you still can jam some turns and rivers if you want.
If you bet this kind of flop and get raised in 4-bet pot, you have to fold AK no club, its a simple decision.
If the villian history is accurate seems like a bad beat. If im getting 3bet all night im not going to think he has a set here
Same here, without looking results and knowing villain is spewy and steaming, I'd just get it in on the flop. So many draws vs possible set, just a bad beat that he had TT this time. Villain might do same with KQo for all we know.
Yeah I think vs a maniacal player you just have to get it in here. So frustrating when they have it though.
It's a cooler, not a bad beat.
Played a well, just a bad beat
Well he called the 4 bet so I’d say he’s probably 10/10+ or suited broadways only, so when he check raises flop that seemed like set of 10’s to me, or 10x clubs combo draw, so what’s callers equity in that spot? Probably good to call but not jam.
Bart looks like he's dying inside when he talks about his black friday sale
Speaks for him
lol 😂
Keep it up Bart! Taught me how to be a winning player!
Listening to Bart is very insightful...He is an awesome player. great thought process. Changed my game.
I don't play anymore, but still watch these vids and learn a ton. The one thing I've seen is that if you have these folks that will call all the way down, when they start raising! your antenna should go up. That said, this is a very tough hand to play for the caller.
Pot played itself given your villain profile. Both played it fine.
I had a bad feeling about that hand from jump street. That monster re-raise on the flop was the decision point. It was out of character for villain and he made it clear he was going for stacks. I might have waved the white flag on that one.
there was no re-raise on the flop
@@jcw8955 yes there was
@@awarebear7938 didn’t see one
@@jcw8955 it was a check-raise, I think OP meant to say that. obviously the hero re-raised but I think the reference was to villain's check-raise
@@paulhiggins140 thank you
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I really expected somebody would have found the link to the stream and posted it here - I'll see if I can dig it up later
Even on the button with no open, im folding that sweater
Havent gotten to the end yet but hes got massive equity. Possibly a set but broadway clubs I think or maybe even AA.
Yeah he had the set. He knew how strong the caller was which is why he raised without hesitation.
If the villains been passive check calling the whole time alarm bells should be going off when he check raises on that flop.
Why specifically _interior_ clubs?
Hand played itself, but i'd indeed call his raise to keep the bluffs in. No need to shove all-in and risk taking the bluffs out.
I think you talking about betting smaller in the results section on flop/preflop you are being results oriented.b
Your preflop size was perfect for 5 handed IMO.
Your size on the flop made sense too, for the reasons you suggested earlier in the video. There are lots of draws out there for potential straights and flushes. He shows up with a flush draw so much more often than TT here, just unfortunate this was that time.
this was a good one
How else do you play AK, if someone has a set that's just unfortunate whether guy is maniac or tight in which case one should just fold preflol but who does that.
If you fold here you actually only defend KK therefore, so no folds lol. Hand plays itself. It's a big one but its a 4! pot against someone whos losing and tilted, play on and win the next one. If villain makes worse decisions than you (he's never folding and vice-versa) you're at worst break even. This is just variance, not a real brain scratcher.
While AK here should be a flop jam or call down in theory, solver is raising sometimes with naked AQ-AJs gutshots, random 6x blocking the set, naked QJs open ender, etc... In these spots even splashy villians probably don't make these kind of bluffs and is probably weighted too strongly towards combo draws making AK a fold.
How many random 6x hands does a solver have in a 4 bet pot?
Solvers have little value in live poker.
He said early in call he had not 4 bet the guy all night. He's unbalanced and his opponent only has to worry about KK
Appreciate all the videos Bart
I think the check raise on the river is either a signal that villain is going for stacks, or has a good but vulnerable hand against hero’s range (AA, AK). KTs or 66. I was a bit surprised to see a big check raise with TT on that board because hero doesn’t have a ton of draws to beat TT. I think it’s a bad beat, can’t fold top pair on a dry board to every check raise 🤷♂️
1. It’s the flop not the river.
2. How is 66 a “vulnerable hand”? It has AA and especially AK crushed.
3. Folding TPTK on a dry board would make sense. This isn’t a dry board, there’s tons of draws, hence the call.
I made same mistake as hero recently for my enture $400 buy in.
Only after the fact, did i realize all the hands that beat me on that flop.
He's only worried about his sizing because of the run out..... I think it was what it was
I think his sizing was actually appropriate given what he knew about his opponent and the large check raise gives more info than a small bet + check raise would have.
what kind of a bankroll do you need to play in a game this huge?
Deep 6-figures, 400k+
@@connerklass1368 way more than that lmao, you want your bankroll to be 10 buy in??
You want around 100 buy-ins
is the caller Jason Calacanis?
I have a buddy who’s a losing player who’d for sure check-raise the flop on the flush draw and/or straight draw on this board, even with the pre-flop action. I for sure would have gotten stacked against him 😂
I’d want to check-raise TT and KT on this board. I feel if you’re check-raising those hands you need to have some bluffs. Obviously raising every straight and flush draw is too much, but you should raise some of the best combo draws right?
Yeah your buddy doesn't play with $50k in front of him though.
It's very difficult to x/r at the correct frequency here.
You won't find many videos where the 1 pair is actually good in the $100k pot 1000BB pot.
If a player check calls all night and then suddenly goes for the c/r it’s value.
Man I want to play with this guy
so he can take your 50k?
I know this channel is geared towards live player low and mid stake exploits but I thought I'd point out that most of the time solvers will have you flatting AK in position and 4-betting it out of position even more so when you are deep. For example, running this exact scenario through PokerSnowie 4 my only value 4-bet is AA@100% and the only bluff 4-bets are ATs@5% A9s@8% A8s@9% A7s@38% A6s@34% A5s@5% A4s@34% A3s@69% A2S@100% though it would make the 4-bet a bit larger (4,600). This works out to around 12 combos of bluffs and 6 combos of AA.
What happened on the time stamp at 755 wtf
9:30 All in.
Before reveal...Just odd I think people get way to married to AA, KK, and AK post flop...sure maybe he has A10c or QJc but or QQ, JJ but this still feels like 1010 if the guy has a clue but if he's on tilt maybe not. Post reveal....well pretty much as expected...
Same here. The second that raise came I said pocket tens all day.
Could be QJcc or A10cc too. 3 combos of 10s, 3 combos of 6s. It's a close call to call the check raise when the price is 3:1.
I think I’d probably get married to KK tbf. I’d say that’s a slightly too nitty fold. 😂
@@shapeofillusionI’d say AQcc and AJcc are also possible. 66 seems unlikely to call a 4 bet oop. Feels really nitty to fold AK to the flop check raise, but against a lot of players you probably can.
That 16K raise screams of BLUFF or trips (edit: set). I would maybe call and see if I improve. If not I would definitely check fold. This deep to go all in on 1 pair? Wow. Also hero said villain was calling down so for him to raise after the 5.5K bet is also showing strength.
You can’t call the flop raise and then fold a non-club turn.
The only reason to call the flop raise is if you think he has a lot of bluffs on the flop that will continue bluffing on the turn.
If he’s got a set (not trips, which is impossible) then “improving” on the turn isn’t going to help you.
Talk about bloating a pot. Anyways, this hand is very player dependent. But villain has to be a bit laggy for AK to be good when it's check-raised here. Hero is totally uncapped. He 4 bet pre. He has lots of AA, KK, AK in his range. Villain should really have KT, TT, 66 here. But people think AK is magical. Honestly, the only reasonable semi-bluff is QJcc. And AK is not a huge favorite against that.
I would not have played this as hero did, but if I had then I'm folding the flop absent some kind of read on villain.
No way this hand would have been taken on the show if it was on lower stakes.
What
It's good to have high stakes hands on the show. It gives people an idea how to think at different levels and will ultimately make them better players. Plus I enjoy about hearing someone losing almost 50 thousand dollarsm hahab
I'm impressed Bart calls lav mics by their real name, I'm in the AV industry and most people don't know what they are unless you call them lapels
Yea it’s interesting since lavalier mics have nothing to do with lava or liars
"Recreational" players with $46k in front of them...... jeeze.
Just because it's a lot of money for you (us) doesn't mean it is to them
Some ppl have good jobs, or they bought crypto early
4 bet was way too small. Villain can flat 100% of his 3b range. AK is fine with a pf fold
How quickly did he bet the 16k.. that would help me think he's got 10's
I think it's generally accepted that most players don't 3bet/ 4bet enough and are too passive. People don't find enough check raises especially not for $45k.
And yet so often people seem to get into these ego battles at the table "he's playing back at me" "he's 3betting light" and then are surprised when they run into monsters in every big pot.
For what it’s worth this 4 bet is a little wide at 450bb. Unsuited hands go way down in value this deep. Unless we are saying he is just pure tilt and vpiping as a 3bet at a 5x size way to wide. This hand serves as a call most of the time
Isn’t that exactly what caller said, that villain was 3 betting him constantly?
How come it's not the bad sizing...
Even if you had AA, everything is going in. Just unfortunate hand that happens occasionally.
This bigger than Bart plays
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losing that much money i would be so sick lol gee whiz
Pretty sure I seen this video like a week ago
Horrible hand to play, the check raise was alarm bells time if he's been check calling all night
I am only calling a check raise on the flop here vs a snazzy donkey. most players are never check raising a king/ace high board in a 4 bet pot since your hand looks like AK or better.
AK overplay 😮
Playing AK is overplaying AK 😁
That's why I fold it preflop
it's 50-100 not 0.50-1
This is just a cooler
Who are these people that lose 50k bc they suck and laugh it off?
People like me with money..just here to have fun
You talked toooo much. He got outflopped, simple as that !
Never jamming lol
Get rid of all his semi bluffs and air and get snapped by value
Tough spot with a player like that
seemingly only course of action vs a spewy player motivated to make up a loss.
ouch
I knew it was tens. That's why I don't inflate the pot with a drawing hand like ace king.
Well played. Just a cooler, move on
So many ads! Omg bro chill on the ad spam and go play cards if you’re hurting for money.
cooler
Bart - can you look to remove “spazzing” from your vocabulary? It’s quite offensive. Only thing I’ve ever had to comment negatively to you though!
spaz
/spaz/
noun
short for spastic.
verb
lose physical or emotional control.
"he offered a post-game assessment: “I spazzed out real bad.”"
@@qlow5956 lol what a snowflake haha
bart is fine. quit spazzing.
lmao imagine asking strangers to "remove words from their vocabulary" smh
@@metanoia3d925 One of my best friends has CP. I completely understand why you would be offended. Most people don’t get it. Wishing you well!
As a Quadriplegic, I am okay with the "spazzing" term. Shake a leg!
no one will respond, but imma put this out there - if you flop Top pair and you have the BEST kicker in the deck, you go big. no? you push these draws and these middle pairs or Qs the heck out of there. if they call or raise then at least you know what they got. am i wrong?