Surprising how quickly it starts producing gas that's able to start an engine. It's going to be a little while before I get to run it again do to the garden harvest and firewood market kicking into high gear.... unless , of course we have a grid down situation. At least I am now familiar with the procedure. Thanks for checking it out ! Where the heck did the summer go ?
Set up time is a breeze ! It's almost like roll it out " Plug it in, push the button and play" ... except there are no buttons . I did not have the Inverter plugged in or under load but I'm encouraged by the initial start up. Thanks for checking in !
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Yes, I have lots of questions that I hope you will be able to answer in due course about the machine. No rush. You give me something to look forward to. Thanks.
I was totally hanging out for a woodgas fix, and you provided it, just in time - before the woodgas bugz came and ate me up :) . When time permits, it wood be interesting to see watt sort of a difference you get when you shut off the water feed, and then turn it back on, to varying degrees. For me, it makes a huge difference, when managed with due care - that is, assuming I can find any water, in all this rain ;) .
We have all been pretty quiet for awhile as far as wood gas videos and up dates. I find what was once second nature, almost like a day to day job, my skills are not finely tuned like they used to be. I'm glad we have not had a major grid down event to contend with. The little things escape me, what to look for when it's not operating as expected. I'm encouraged now to get back into it and be ready when we really need it . Good to hear from you !
Hey Steve, Bill and I were talking about his new charcoal gasifier and from what he understands he should get around 4 to 5 hours runtime on a single hopper of charcoal. I don't know how much his hopper holds and I know you built your own charcoal gasifier but I don't really know how much your hopper can hold but can you give us a rough idea of the runtime for a given quantity of charcoal? For that matter how does the charcoal runtime compare to the raw dried wood fuel?
@@flash001USA Mike, I think this hopper will hold four 5 gal pails of charcoal, maybe five. As with all of the gasifiers wood or charcoal the devil is in making the fuel.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Yup, we have all been busy with other things, so our attention is duly divided. As a result, we get kinda rusty, and our wattages take a tumble! Yes, your local woodgas bugs have been eyeing up your neck, considering a re-bite event, so it is a lucky thing that you protected yourself from them, by preemptively acting on their addictive orders ;) .
@@flash001USA Howdee partner, My charlek can hold 10 US gal of charcoal, but I typically load it to no more than 7 gal. This gives me a runtime of 2.5 to 3 hrs, at an electric power level of 850 watts. Because the charcoal I use is very poorly shaped, being second hand, it does not burn as well as it should, so it is inclined to choke the filters and pipework with fine dust. If it was optimally shaped and sized, it wood surely perform better. As for comparative runtime of the treezel types, I wood say that the wood outlasts the charcoal, but that is yet to be properly tested :) .
Nice!! Yeah keep it simple dont over complicate it. Just to clearify the water injection systems primary function is to cool the nozzle. This water injection nozzle is our designed water atomizer jet system. (this is carried over to the DXF-10 and future series). The water is inject at the center of the nozzle and the air is vented radiallly around the water tube. This air rushing in grabs the water drips and atomomizes it. The idea is the water wil even coat a thin layer of water to the nozzle walls so that it quickly evaportates. The evaporation process is what is cooling the nozzle. Without this water injection the nozzle wont last more than 20 hours. I have yet to see a nozzle melt whne the water injection is used properly. Now there is a byproduct of this system. This is a water gas process. The resulting steam from evaporation process is now procesed post nozzle in the reactor. The hot carbon rips the oxygen out and combines with it to craate CO while leaving H2 free. So this will boost the energy density of the gas and makes the gas a bit more volitile.
Also charcoal gasifiers like to make clinkers. Just the nature of the beast. Its always a good idea to run the machine out of fuel or as get it as low as you can before you shut down for the day. When the machine is cold and before you light for the day, check for clinkers!! They typicaly form directly in front of the jet or just bellow. This will cause the intake air for oxidation from the nozzle to have to migrate around this obsticle and you wont get a good reaction process going. If you have issues with weak gas or fluctuatinng gas, this is the first thing you want to check.
If you think you have one formed and are already running. Use a poker rod and stabb that in through the ignition port and try to break it up or push it out of the way. Then clean it out later after the machine has cooled down.
@@Thrive-Off-Grid What is the recommended way to shut it down when there is still a lot of charcoal left in the hopper? What I did was disconnect the main outlet gas hose , replace it with the cap, then wrap a few windings of rope gasket around the air intake nozzle. I does take a while to cool down. I will clean out the remaining charcoal this time to check for the notorious clinker party goers. Thanks for the feed back.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 You dont have to do anything other than shut off the engine. It will shut down there is no need to wrap the nozzle inlet. Trust me been using this jet system for years now. When you drop the draft from shutting the engine off, the reactor will degas and that gas needs a place to go anyways. Oxygen cant get in the gas / air inside is static. If anything I open the flare cup valve to alieviate gas exiting out the nozzle.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Yeah those blowers are no joke they get it done!! They are pretty tough too, the motors are isolated from the housing. You can run them direct on 24 - 48 volts DC as well or get a small 600 watt inverter to run off a 12 volt car battery. Yeah these are the way to go as you have lots more options to power them.
Mike, I have no idea what the run time would be as of yet. In fact, this run was not planned at all, I walked by it sitting in the shop and said, " Hey, You have 40 min to get out there and start earning your keep". Rolled it out, hooked up the hoses and off it went. So when the madness ends and I have time for a long run under the electrical load I'll have a better idea on run times. That said I think I heard Matt say 4-5 hrs on a hopper load. Will have to verify that at some point.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Bill if you can even get 4 solid hours of runtime that's impressive. That would actually be a great question for Steve since he also has a charcoal gasifier that he built a while back.
@@flash001USA Yes, it would be impressive. Keep in mind that with my setup I can use it to either charge the battery bank for storage or run direct to a generator. My preference is to keep the steady load for charging the batteries, a round about way to get to the same place. I will have to upgrade the Inverter to 120/240 VAC to run the water pump and my secret nuclear fusion reactor. :>O
Yes we did although it was only about 30 minutes on our wood chip machine. I do have a large wood gasifier which should be able to handle it quite well if I ever get time to set it up. !
Nice rig Bill ! Great job running it !
Surprising how quickly it starts producing gas that's able to start an engine. It's going to be a little while before I get to run it again do to the garden harvest and firewood market kicking into high gear.... unless , of course we have a grid down situation. At least I am now familiar with the procedure. Thanks for checking it out ! Where the heck did the summer go ?
Great job, I know you are really happy seeing that it runs and looks like it won't require very much attention
Set up time is a breeze ! It's almost like roll it out " Plug it in, push the button and play" ... except there are no buttons . I did not have the Inverter plugged in or under load but I'm encouraged by the initial start up. Thanks for checking in !
Another Great woogas fix..
Have you been messing around with that big beautiful gasser of yours or too busy sailing ? How have you been ?
Hey presto! Looking pretty slick!
Finally ! I've been sitting on this for a while now. Glad to get the chance to fire it up. Now to make some more c-coal for a good stockpile.
Nice first run. Looking forward to seeing some more testing and learning. Well done.
I was happy to finally run it. Can't wait to get the time for a run under load and see how long it will go.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Yes, I have lots of questions that I hope you will be able to answer in due course about the machine. No rush. You give me something to look forward to. Thanks.
@@gasonthebrain3738 That makes two of us !
I was totally hanging out for a woodgas fix, and you provided it, just in time - before the woodgas bugz came and ate me up :) .
When time permits, it wood be interesting to see watt sort of a difference you get when you shut off the water feed, and then turn it back on, to varying degrees.
For me, it makes a huge difference, when managed with due care - that is, assuming I can find any water, in all this rain ;) .
We have all been pretty quiet for awhile as far as wood gas videos and up dates. I find what was once second nature, almost like a day to day job, my skills are not finely tuned like they used to be. I'm glad we have not had a major grid down event to contend with. The little things escape me, what to look for when it's not operating as expected. I'm encouraged now to get back into it and be ready when we really need it . Good to hear from you !
Hey Steve, Bill and I were talking about his new charcoal gasifier and from what he understands he should get around 4 to 5 hours runtime on a single hopper of charcoal. I don't know how much his hopper holds and I know you built your own charcoal gasifier but I don't really know how much your hopper can hold but can you give us a rough idea of the runtime for a given quantity of charcoal? For that matter how does the charcoal runtime compare to the raw dried wood fuel?
@@flash001USA Mike, I think this hopper will hold four 5 gal pails of charcoal, maybe five.
As with all of the gasifiers wood or charcoal the devil is in making the fuel.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022
Yup, we have all been busy with other things, so our attention is duly divided.
As a result, we get kinda rusty, and our wattages take a tumble!
Yes, your local woodgas bugs have been eyeing up your neck, considering a re-bite event, so it is a lucky thing that you protected yourself from them, by preemptively acting on their addictive orders ;) .
@@flash001USA
Howdee partner,
My charlek can hold 10 US gal of charcoal, but I typically load it to no more than 7 gal.
This gives me a runtime of 2.5 to 3 hrs, at an electric power level of 850 watts.
Because the charcoal I use is very poorly shaped, being second hand, it does not burn as well as it should, so it is inclined to choke the filters and pipework with fine dust.
If it was optimally shaped and sized, it wood surely perform better.
As for comparative runtime of the treezel types, I wood say that the wood outlasts the charcoal, but that is yet to be properly tested :) .
Nice!! Yeah keep it simple dont over complicate it. Just to clearify the water injection systems primary function is to cool the nozzle. This water injection nozzle is our designed water atomizer jet system. (this is carried over to the DXF-10 and future series). The water is inject at the center of the nozzle and the air is vented radiallly around the water tube. This air rushing in grabs the water drips and atomomizes it. The idea is the water wil even coat a thin layer of water to the nozzle walls so that it quickly evaportates. The evaporation process is what is cooling the nozzle. Without this water injection the nozzle wont last more than 20 hours. I have yet to see a nozzle melt whne the water injection is used properly.
Now there is a byproduct of this system. This is a water gas process. The resulting steam from evaporation process is now procesed post nozzle in the reactor. The hot carbon rips the oxygen out and combines with it to craate CO while leaving H2 free. So this will boost the energy density of the gas and makes the gas a bit more volitile.
Ahh, Thanks for the inside skinny, Matt. Keep the info coming as it will help a lot. Everyone has lots of questions.
Also charcoal gasifiers like to make clinkers. Just the nature of the beast. Its always a good idea to run the machine out of fuel or as get it as low as you can before you shut down for the day. When the machine is cold and before you light for the day, check for clinkers!! They typicaly form directly in front of the jet or just bellow. This will cause the intake air for oxidation from the nozzle to have to migrate around this obsticle and you wont get a good reaction process going. If you have issues with weak gas or fluctuatinng gas, this is the first thing you want to check.
If you think you have one formed and are already running. Use a poker rod and stabb that in through the ignition port and try to break it up or push it out of the way. Then clean it out later after the machine has cooled down.
@@Thrive-Off-Grid What is the recommended way to shut it down when there is still a lot of charcoal left in the hopper? What I did was disconnect the main outlet gas hose , replace it with the cap, then wrap a few windings of rope gasket around the air intake nozzle. I does take a while to cool down. I will clean out the remaining charcoal this time to check for the notorious clinker party goers. Thanks for the feed back.
Will do. BTW, did you hear the difference in the noise level of the blower? Now running as it should.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 You dont have to do anything other than shut off the engine. It will shut down there is no need to wrap the nozzle inlet. Trust me been using this jet system for years now. When you drop the draft from shutting the engine off, the reactor will degas and that gas needs a place to go anyways. Oxygen cant get in the gas / air inside is static. If anything I open the flare cup valve to alieviate gas exiting out the nozzle.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Yeah those blowers are no joke they get it done!! They are pretty tough too, the motors are isolated from the housing. You can run them direct on 24 - 48 volts DC as well or get a small 600 watt inverter to run off a 12 volt car battery. Yeah these are the way to go as you have lots more options to power them.
Nice to see the charcoal system up and running. Bill what is the approximate running time on one hopper of charcoal with your setup?
Mike, I have no idea what the run time would be as of yet. In fact, this run was not planned at all, I walked by it sitting in the shop and said, " Hey, You have 40 min to get out there and start earning your keep". Rolled it out, hooked up the hoses and off it went. So when the madness ends and I have time for a long run under the electrical load I'll have a better idea on run times. That said I think I heard Matt say 4-5 hrs on a hopper load. Will have to verify that at some point.
@@nhhbbyloggr5022 Bill if you can even get 4 solid hours of runtime that's impressive. That would actually be a great question for Steve since he also has a charcoal gasifier that he built a while back.
@@flash001USA Yes, it would be impressive. Keep in mind that with my setup I can use it to either charge the battery bank for storage or run direct to a generator. My preference is to keep the steady load for charging the batteries, a round about way to get to the same place. I will have to upgrade the Inverter to 120/240 VAC to run the water pump and my secret nuclear fusion reactor. :>O
Did you Have a 6 cylinder Generator running off a Gasifier.
Yes we did although it was only about 30 minutes on our wood chip machine. I do have a large wood gasifier which should be able to handle it quite well if I ever get time to set it up. !
Looks good Bill. I hope you can get more time to mess around with it. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Joe
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