Clear gel blocks and FBI gel blocks differ in several ways, including: Density Clear gel blocks are less dense than FBI gel blocks, so bullets penetrate more deeply and expand less. Clear gel blocks are good for informal or comparative testing, while FBI gel blocks are used for terminal ballistics testing. Bullet manufacturers don't use clear gel blocks when developing their Ammunition, they use FBI rated blocks because it closer to the density of human tissue.
you would think big names like federal and hornady could get on this level. especially with sub 300blk as popular as it is. Speaking of hornady needs to rip[ up the sub x and start from scratch
@@rob409BOI I agree completely, but I think Hornady’s got way to much money invested in lead core copper jacketed bullets. Even with the 8.6 Blackout (.338cal) Hornady is way behind. The CX is the only bullet they make that can survive a supersonic loading in the 1/3 twist barrel. The lead cores just spin apart, right out of the barrel. Proved it last weekend with a small test set with SP and SST!! 😂.
The 190 sub x is a very accurate bullet and if you notice it only expands at the 1/3 area I believe if the designed a 2.0 version make it crumple down to the halfway point or more would be huge expansion
That’s the reason they didn’t help with the 8.6 blackout because they aren’t on that level of bullet making. They’re too busy trying to sell something rather than actually create something to go along with the already popular cartridges. They just aren’t that good of a bullet designer as they think they are, but they do have stuff that works. However, if they would stop running their mouth and actually try to do it then they might be able to.
Yeah and 338 arc sucks unless you shoot it out of a 1:3 or 5” twist. There’s no point in shooting 338 arc over 300 blackout unless you’re running a faster twist.
Love the video. I’ve killed quite a few deer with this ammo. They shed petals and there is often not more than a drop or two of blood. That said, they are better performing than the Hornady, except sometimes the rounds are supersonic. Just picked up some Maker Rex 200 grain ammo to test out this week. Hoping for a better blood trail than the Hornady (almost never a single drop) or these which are just barely adequate.
@@briancsmith11 with the chrono data at the end you could build a ballistics chart and see what the velocities would be at any given distance. That, and manufacturers data on expansion at different velocities would give you a real good idea. I wouldn’t expect much performance difference at 100-150yrds as the velocity loss wouldn’t be too great yet. I’m talking with Barnes Bullets now on expansion velocities for the supersonic 8.6 loads and converting them in my ballistics chart. At some point I’m wanting to load some of them “down” to corresponding velocities for 200, 300, 400 yrds etc. It’s pretty time consuming so I have to pick and choose which rabbit holes I end up diving into 😂😂😉
@@bobborlog1677 The short answer is monitization. Lol. Long answer, UA-cam is not very suppressor friendly. I have a Hybrid 46M but if I use it during videos it needs to be off-screen when I take the shot or they’ll gig the video and reduce its ability to run adds.
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Clear gel blocks and FBI gel blocks differ in several ways, including:
Density
Clear gel blocks are less dense than FBI gel blocks, so bullets penetrate more deeply and expand less. Clear gel blocks are good for informal or comparative testing, while FBI gel blocks are used for terminal ballistics testing. Bullet manufacturers don't use clear gel blocks when developing their Ammunition, they use FBI rated blocks because it closer to the density of human tissue.
Thoroughly enjoying these tests! Thanks for taking the time to do these for us!
Thanks!!
Most excellent.
You made a better video than Wilson combat
The 1-5 twist rate barrel on the 300 blackout, it what makes it great.
Thanks for the video. Subscribed, bell rang, commented, liked, upvoted, shared ... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel.
@@GalloPazzesco Awesome!! Thanks!!
Reminds me of a REX bullet! Great vid!
I have some REX for the .458socom. I’ll be testing those later too. 😉
you would think big names like federal and hornady could get on this level. especially with sub 300blk as popular as it is. Speaking of hornady needs to rip[ up the sub x and start from scratch
@@rob409BOI I agree completely, but I think Hornady’s got way to much money invested in lead core copper jacketed bullets. Even with the 8.6 Blackout (.338cal) Hornady is way behind. The CX is the only bullet they make that can survive a supersonic loading in the 1/3 twist barrel. The lead cores just spin apart, right out of the barrel. Proved it last weekend with a small test set with SP and SST!! 😂.
The 190 sub x is a very accurate bullet and if you notice it only expands at the 1/3 area I believe if the designed a 2.0 version make it crumple down to the halfway point or more would be huge expansion
That’s the reason they didn’t help with the 8.6 blackout because they aren’t on that level of bullet making. They’re too busy trying to sell something rather than actually create something to go along with the already popular cartridges. They just aren’t that good of a bullet designer as they think they are, but they do have stuff that works. However, if they would stop running their mouth and actually try to do it then they might be able to.
@@zacharyfelkel7924I don’t think they helped with it because they were launching their .338 Arc.
Yeah and 338 arc sucks unless you shoot it out of a 1:3 or 5” twist. There’s no point in shooting 338 arc over 300 blackout unless you’re running a faster twist.
I haven't started reloading, yet, but I think my first are going to be 300 blackout subsonic and maker rex bullets.
@@briankeithwood that’ll be a fun place to start 😉👍🏻👊🏻
Keep in mind that you're shooting really close and even if it ends up at 3/4", it opened up to the full amount before it continued to fold back.
Love the video. I’ve killed quite a few deer with this ammo. They shed petals and there is often not more than a drop or two of blood. That said, they are better performing than the Hornady, except sometimes the rounds are supersonic. Just picked up some Maker Rex 200 grain ammo to test out this week. Hoping for a better blood trail than the Hornady (almost never a single drop) or these which are just barely adequate.
@@whodoctor23 I can see that. So many small pieces of copper and probably never an exit wound.
Would love to see this same rest at what would be a more normal hunting distance. Say 75 yards etc.
@@briancsmith11 with the chrono data at the end you could build a ballistics chart and see what the velocities would be at any given distance. That, and manufacturers data on expansion at different velocities would give you a real good idea.
I wouldn’t expect much performance difference at 100-150yrds as the velocity loss wouldn’t be too great yet.
I’m talking with Barnes Bullets now on expansion velocities for the supersonic 8.6 loads and converting them in my ballistics chart. At some point I’m wanting to load some of them “down” to corresponding velocities for 200, 300, 400 yrds etc.
It’s pretty time consuming so I have to pick and choose which rabbit holes I end up diving into 😂😂😉
Win296 is my go to powder for 300blk i do also use cfeblk 1680 lil gun and h110
@@bobborlog1677 👍🏻, same here. All great choices. 😉
What optic is that you're runnin?
@@hillbilly_patriot Primary Arms ACSS 2.5X. I had to go watch the video to double check! 😂😂
All these subsonics you shoot but no suppressors why not? Your missing out on the reason for them
@@bobborlog1677 The short answer is monitization. Lol.
Long answer, UA-cam is not very suppressor friendly. I have a Hybrid 46M but if I use it during videos it needs to be off-screen when I take the shot or they’ll gig the video and reduce its ability to run adds.