Building My New Threadripper Workstation
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- In this video I build my new threadripper workstation PC.
Motherboard: Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha
CPU: Ryzen Threadripper 3970x
RAM: Corsair Vengence LPX 4 x 32GB (128GB total)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus.
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Finally a worthy cpu where compiling gentoo packages is child's play.
@pm4rcin Rust programs compile just fine on my i3 8th gen 🤔
A Threadripper rig is used for compiling the linux kernel iirc
@@reydgukthewjw8349 just 3 and a half minutes to compile the kernel...
Was going to comment this. The Threadripper might be the bes cpu for Gentoo users.
@pm4rcin rust compiler is incremental tho, a little detail people complaining usually forget
A little note just in case. When screwing down the CPU retention bracket, you're supposed to get a noticable click from the included torque wrench when you reach the right torque. From what I've heard, Threadripper tend to be really picky with the tightening torque and can behave weirdly if it is slightly wrong. I didn't really see if you got to the click or not. Though if it's good, it's good. 👌
Agreed. Doesn't sound or look like he torqued it to spec. I would say that it would be a good idea to open her up again and make sure its torqued.
And he didn't apply enough thermal paste
A click of a broken component
i heard a click on two and maybe one on one..
and yeah hard to tell amyway due to the background music
@@Shvmadogg nah that's good.... 4 in each corner 1 in the center, more than enough
That moment when you have a better gpu than your favorite UA-camr
I have g460. I is same as 730 but a little bit older (
@@strongleongch that’s rough buddy
Imagine having a favorite UA-camr
1050ti moment
@@thexkey 1050 moment.............
Let's all love Lain!
lmao threadripper + gt 730 what a combo
it's generally enough for software development. most people just need a display out .
it's generally enough for software development. most people just need a display out .
> Installs 128GB of RAM
> Gentoo uses 128MB
as it should
this is the way
absolutely based & rampilled
@@MentalOutlaw Windows 7 is still better than gentoo ✋
@@Dev20059what can it better?
Fast CPU with tons of threads and ancient GPU with low video memory - clear summary of almost all PC builds nowadays. Thanks to the shortages...
Mine is the opposite. Got an RTX 3060 but stuck with a Ryzen 5 3400G. Really lowers down my fps in games like Forza Horizon 5
@@randomjap8431 with those specs you should be running horizon 5 perfectly fine. might sound stupid, but is your monitor plugged into the gpu or the motherboard?
@@firstnamelastname-ev4oy 3400G cuts the lanes in half iirc, which is kinda bad. 3500 or 3500x would do fine instead tbh.
@@firstnamelastname-ev4oy
Obviously to the GPU LOL
But here is the issue: when loading every section of the map, there are peaks in CPU usage. My 3400G goes up to 100% of usage in those peaks, so a little stuttering Is caused. This stuttering is WAY more aggressive when in Guanajuato, causing fps drops up to 43 fps
@@randomjap8431 You lucky one to get 30 series 😏
A Gentoo user's wet dream
You might need to undervolt it a bit to keep it cool and quiet with the noctua cooler under heavy load. 280W is a lot. I have almost the same setup, except with custom loop water cooling and slightly slower RAM. It's great for gentoo and keeping the room warm during winter. :D
I suggest you use the hard to reach mobo M.2 slots first, so when you need to upgrade your storage, it's much easier to use the DIMM.2 or the front M.2 slots, and not have to take the motherboard out of the case.
that heatsink is absolutely massive, no way you would ever need to overvolt it, infact you could probably get away with a little overclock
@@ChristopherGray00 i really don't think so, remember: 280 watts
Hydro makes great sense for short high loads, but long high loads make it perform worse than a good big air cooler.
And it's a leak hazard, it needs maintainance, it can corrode inside and fail, the pump makes a lot of noise.
Modern air coolers are very powerful, so I doubt a good air cooler would be significantly outperformed by a water cooler
@@mateojbuteler8974 yeah and? some GPU's pull as much wattage or more and have less heatsink
@@ChristopherGray00 one word: surface. Open a physics book once in a while.
Now that you have 128gb of ram you can probably run Gnome, with a little RAM to spare too
Xfce maybe. Not gnome 😮
Sick rig! I want to see her compile the kernel from source as a benchmark!
yes Gentoo install is needed!
Actually, i think you can see that in L1Tech channel... Didn't do it Wendell on Linus' rig?
Sorry, was the "other Linus"
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At min 14:00
@@BlindNeverAgain That sure does thread rip!! I love to buy one!!
@@Euphoriatrix Gentoo is python based bullshit, i prefer Void and Runit.
Truly impeccable taste in hardware. You can never go wrong with Noctua and samsung ssds.
samsung silently nerfed their nvme's the nand flash is of lower quality and doesnt perform the same as the older ones. WD_black now takes the cake in the nvme market
@@dots5641 980 pro uses TLC and not MLC, which is technically worse, but it's really not a big deal
@@dots5641 *stares at WD Black SN750 SE reviews* Looks like they reskinned the SN550 into a "entry-level PCIe 4.0" SSD now
@@sunlimestudios they changed it silently. Thats the big deal.
Biggest issue is the whole AMD thing, as opposed to POWER9.
What a beast! Enjoy being able to run multiple VMs AND compile something at the same time without breaking a sweat!
You sir have curred my OCD for the night. Thank you for a build. Linus hasn't done one in a long time. but after this I think you've just set a new benchmark for how these should be done!
Noticed how quickly you forgot the diagonal tightening sequence when it came time to torque the cooler down. Here I was cheering you on when you hand tightened the hold downs. A once round is fine once all is tight to ensure one wasn't missed, important in applications with many fasteners.
Exquisite taste in components!
He'll finally be able to compile Gentoo without falling asleep.
Gentoo fucking sucks and anyone who uses it should get flayed.
@@phoneticalballsack what's wrong with you? -a gentoo user
@@szaszm_ -A
@@phoneticalballsack what's wrong with you? - an arch user
glad to see elitism within the linux community, keep it within there
>GT 730
Absolutely proprietary!
You are the best UA-camr I have ever witnessed. I wish everyone my age (23) watch your content
Ah back to good old hardware videos
dwarf fortress can probably do well with that cpu
it probably runs on a threadripper like it runs on a core2duo
OMG Dwarf Fortress? I love Minecraft! /j
You'd hope but it only ever runs on 1 core
I was pricing this out today no bs...same core cpu
Props for Serial Experiments Lain in the thumbnail. A man of culture!
Great rig dude, i'm glad you could get a well deserved upgrade. Last month i also got an upgrade from my 8 year old pc, went from a I5-3340 to a Ryzen 5 5600x. The difference is truly mind-boggling. Love the channel. Keep it up!
Ryzen be the best. I wish I could of gotten a AMD GPU, but I copped my 3070 at non scappled price.
But AMD GPU's are better in my experience with me running arch. (Btw)
I switch from a i3-6100 to a 5600x i can feel u man😂
Let's all love Lain
That is a monster. My current Linux workstation is a Dual Xeon X5680 (6c/12t, total 12c/24t) 3.6GHz boost with 96GB of RAM. I can only imagine your new beast can do. Rad machine, enjoy it.
If you ever have to change your CPU/cooler, I can highly recommend the Thermal Grizzly graphite pad in Threadripper size. It's like a thin microfiber sheet that's reusable. I get it because I was tired of cleaning off paste and it really works well.
Thanks for sharing, going to build my own small setup and was afraid of thermal paste hell
@@AkshayKumar-kz6zh I don't mind it on a regular sized CPU, but with Threadripper it's ridiculous. And you always worry if you used enough. This takes the guesswork out of it and it's reusable! I changed the CPU in my water cooled rig without draining (soft tube) and without cleaning paste. Totally make it easier for myself 😅
papa outlaw
On the topic of gaming with the Threadripper, I am part of the team working on Veloren, an open source game similar to Minecraft/Cubeworld, and although we run our server on a high core-count CPU, our client also runs super well in parallel! If you're interested, it would be really cool to see how the game runs on your CPU, specifically for generating terrain as you fly through the world. The game is open source, and you can even enjoy your Threadripper's capability by compiling it yourself :P would love to see this!
he's actually made a video on veloren already, so it isn't terribly unlikely
Beastly. I just built a new system around a 5900x, but love the threadrippers.
it's godly!
same, I have a no holds barred 5900x build. just accomplished what feels like my childhood dream since i was 14 -, 4.7ghz all core, sleeved cables, all rgb, and the whole 9 yards. But i see threadripper videos... and it makes me hungry...
@@phrenologygroyper Can you even use a Threadripper for gaming?
@@daedalus6433 yea it’s just not as great as a high end normal ryzen while being like double the price
@@uwuLegacy Weird. I thought games would just straight up not work on a Threadripper.
Congrats bro, good to see you are putting your wagie check to good use.
Jesus, this guy literally bought a threadripper. One of my dream and my goal in gaming.
My dream: get a GPU that was released in last 5 years
>gaming
>threadripper
bruh
@@PenguinCrayon269 I think overkill, but I could use a 3rd gen threadripper for 5 years min without changing it
"Only" have a 3960x here, but with a couple of Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus NVMEs that have the newer Phison controller in. The slightly higher boost clock of the 24 core is nice for when I occasionally do play games on it, the overkill liquid cooler helps keep the clock speeds up.
It's kind of spoiled me a bit. I'll run big unzip operations on more normal gaming-type computers and look at the 200MB/sec speed, my first reaction is "pathetic". Give me my 5GB/sec unzips and greater-than-realtime software 4K video transcode operations. They're lovely.
I do worry that you've not torqued that CPU in tightly enough. The key you get with it does give a click that's best described as hair-raising when you're not used to it.
I have 5gb a sec unzips, pretty cool
You should sell your Threadripper system and get $2,500-$3,000 for CPU, RAM, and motherboard alone--so you can put it towards a system with much better performance, especially for video encoding and code compilation, where AVX-512 instructions really shine at accelerating compared to just AVX or AVX2.
You could have gone the dual Intel Xeon ES (Ice Lake-SP) processor with SuperMicro X12 (C621A chipset) mainboard route, giving you: 2 sockets, 64 cores, 128 threads, with AVX-512, 8-16 DDR4 memory channels, 3 11.2 GB/sec bi-directional UPI links for chipset and cross-CPU communication, with 256 GiB (16X16 GiB) of DDR4-2133 (PC4-17000R) ECC RDIMMs, for a mere $3,670 before shipping, handling, and taxes--$1,200 for CPUs, $800 for mainboard, $600 for RAM, $400 for a quality 800 W 80 Plus Platinum PSU and Lian-Li chassis. Dual Noctua NH-U14S DX-4189 air coolers for $220, and a 3.84TB NVMe U.2 PCIe 3.0 KIOXIA (Toshiba) KCM5DRUG3T84 enterprise-grade SSD for $450 (this specific model is available, factory-sealed, on eBay).
This is the MOST POWERFUL, TRULY PROFESSIONAL WORKSTATION system for the money, and the CPU & platform (C621A) haven't even been out a full year (commercial availability was only since April 2021, and it's February 2022). It will spank even a Threadripper PRO 3995WX 64-core CPU, which on its own retails for $6,200, and a full system will cost close to $10,000. With the specs I outlined for the dual-Xeon ES route, you can get this equivalent level of performance for $4,000, and when factoring in AVX-512 applications, it will be FASTER than even a Zen 3-based, 64-core Threadripper PRO workstation CPU with the 5000WX series designation, let alone the Zen 2-based Threadripper PRO 3000WX series.
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT That's a whole lot of words for something I'm never going to buy. I'm running a home workstation, not a server. If I ever needed to go nuts, it'd be a rack mount box with Tesla cards, and some budget toward ear defenders so I don't go deaf while running it.
@@technicalfool Dude, it IS A WORKSTATION. It is literally a workstation board, and do you know anything about acoustics? The only noise you would hear are the fans on the CPUs, which I recommended Noctua fans for, they have a maximum dB level of 36 dB. That's between whisper quiet and background noise level of a library. What are you smoking?
@@NUCLEARARMAMENT I'm not going to fork-lift my entire system yet. I'm not going to buy anything from ebay. I'm not going to be going for 2133mhz memory, ECC or not. I already have a 1600W Titanium PSU. I already have RAID boxes with WD Red Pro drives.
I wouldn't buy a 64 core CPU. I don't need that many cores. I want and already have tons of IO and lanes, with respectable per-core performance, and I've had that since shortly before COVID hit.
The difference between me and you is, I know my use-case. As and when my current system stops being useful for what I do, I will consider the options then, and not before then.
3k in mobo and cpu and busts out the gt730 😂👌
I loved it so much when he swung that thing out.
This guy raytraced his model on mobo, what a dedication to craft
You deserve this, man. Enjoy.
The amount of personality that came through this video is honestly really cool. Plus that htop at the end was just chef's kiss.
MO the real life gigachad 💪💛
Congrats on the new rig man. Really enjoy your videos. You're the only tuber that consistently teaches me new things computer and Linux related, and you also have interesting side topics. Please don't ever change _too_ much from your current style.
The noctua model you’re thinking of that has two fans is the NH-D15. I think the d means dual fans and the u means uni fan
Edit: I was mistaken it was dual heatsinks, not fans
The D is for dual heatsinks not 2 fans
@@Bountyhunter411 ah. Ok that makes sense
Not sure of the model I have because its been quite a while since I built the pc but mine has dual heat exch. And dual fans.
Lol, I'm cringing at my PC with a NH-D14 (second most effective noctua block) on a i7-9700k which now seems a little bit overkill 😬😂. Why me, why?!
I wonder if any Monero is gonna be mined on that.
I, too, want one of these Threadripper rigs! right on, Kenny!
See if you can get a MOBO + CPU bundle like I did, the threadrippers by themselves are still very over priced.
@@MentalOutlaw Thanks for the tip!
The reason why it only comes with one fan is because broadly speaking, adding additional fans will increase static pressure and therefore steadiness of air flow, but will not necessarily increase the total airflow(what you want), which if it does will be of diminishing returns.
The best way to lower temps with an air cooler is to fill every empty panel with a fan (I.e replacing unnecessary cd/floppy drives and storage that can afford to be external with additional fans) also make sure they’re installed/driven the correct direction for maximum air flow, not static pressure.
Congrats on your upgrade! Depending on if your chassis has front intake fans, you may want to flip those fans around on the CPU cooler because it can create competing currents
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Get ripped"..
I’m running the old 1950 Threadripper and Gentoo and it works great. I also use an Noctua Air cooler and never had any overheating problems. Although I don’t really need to update I’m looking forward to see what the next release of Threadripper will bring, it is a great platform.
About time a qeeksquad grunt gets some cool tech of his own apart from handling it all day for rich kids. You've paid your dues man, good job.
Oh nice man! My uncle's job just got him a threadripper and he gave me all his old hardware
Who does your uncle work for to get a threadripper? AMD?
Wooooo lain thumbnails!
No man needs more computing power than what T420 has to offer.
I use this same cooler on my AMD Ryzen 5 3400G
A CPU that outputs a lot less heat, and overclocked and under-volted, I'm at around 26°C at idle and around 55 at 100% load, and at around 63°C in full torture tests
those coolers are amazing
nice to see lain
Always nice to see a weeb build a nice computer. Going to have to build mine in 6 months along with picking up a new Android based phone. Here's to hoping for a hail Mary and the S22 + or Ultra has micro SD card support. My 3570k has supported me nearly 10 years.
@@AcridWhistle get a Pixel 6 Pro and flash Calyx/Graphene. Samsung is officially dead, they got rid of every single unique feature, plus their stock apps are filled with trackers.
Oooo nice change of pace! I dig it. Always love looking at circuits.
congratulations on that beast of a CPU, I'm just wondering why you put the fans pointing at the opposite direction though? if you have a case with front intake fans that's going to create a hot spot area where the airflow collide with each other
Congratulations on the new rig bro, I’m new to the channel but have noticed you’re one of the best youtubers out there right now. Hoping to see some awesome new content soon
Can't wait to see DOOM running on the little screen in the motherboard
You just KNOW there's someone out there that's going to try this.
Extremely based CPU/GPU combination
Hell yeah threadripper
beat me to it by 207 seconds
Fuck yeah dude, I recently built my 4300G + 32gb ram pc, installed ubuntu mate and I could not be happier :)
Enjoy the pc yo
the threadripper packaging and how you put them into the socket shows how badass it is you dont need to look at benchmarks
really looking forward to seeing the thermals on the thread ripper under an artificial load
Those reflections on the motherboard
I think this build will be time tested in a good way. You can just upgrade the GPU whenever you need to and with descent VM setup this build is a wetdream for general Linux enthusiasts
Agreed. Ripping out a motherboard/CPU is always harder than swapping a GPU. Plus you might be able to outlive the worst of rhe GPU shortage lol
I incidentally just bought a similar kit and was looking for a good install video. Thank you so much for the non-bs presentation. Nice Lain.
I love seeing these videos, anything linux wise inspired me to try it, and I fucked off windows long time. Next upgrade, I'm committing to ryzen 9 5900x, 32gb or 64gb ram, and 3070, for 2 rsns:
1: vm fiesta
2: workstation for my plans.
And I want it to last.10 years lol
> linux & vm
> commit to single gpu
> nvidia
if you're gonna be a linux user, stick to Radeon GPUs, Nvidia cards are suited if you run a Win 10 VM and you assign that GPU to it. If you still want an Nvidia card, at least make sure to buy a cheap Radeon gpu for your main linux OS. Me personally, i just prefer to have 2 separate systems altogether.
Background synthwave to get into the right mood!
SSDs actually last longer when they're hot, ideally the flash will sit in the 60 to 70 range. The memory controller doesn't enjoy heat, however, and may throttle. So if you have a heat shield for nvme, it's better to cut away the part that contacts the flash chips.
This had been dis-proven turns out heat is bad in general and electronics like to be cool. Some of that planned obsolesce seeping in.
This is mostly right. The vram modules like to run hot and have a thermal junction max temp of 110C (best to run under 90C). It’s the controller that you really don’t want to get hot.
This is the case for gpu vram modules and I believe that the ones on ssd are very similar if not identical
Not quite. There's two components that are temperature sensitive, the actual memory chips and the ssd controller. The memory chips are perfectly happy ~25-55C. The ssd controller is likely less sensitive. Where lower temps are an issue is when you get to subambient. SSDs don't generate that much heat so it's very easy for condensation and shorting to become a problem.
@@Ironclad17 the chips can go way hotter than that.
Feels good to see my gpu in a 2022 workstation build
Guys, with the WEF being so obsessed with a "global cyberpandemic" shouldn't we be careful with AMD PSP and Intel IME? It has made me extremely paranoid ever since I learned this existed.
there might be a way to disable it but its not simple
I've been wondering about that too.
if only you knew how bad things really are
@@dvoemi Can you enlighten us?
You're posting on UA-cam, clearly you're not *that* paranoid.
Love that keygen music in the background 👌
I might have grabbed a i9-12900K and DDR5 motherboard, but I'd happily trade the E cores for as many cores as a Threadripper's got
Now we can see the cooking videos at the same time compiling gento, kernel, firefox, solving Prime95 and streaming at the same time!
I wonder what GPU he will upgrade to when he finally gets his hands on, hope it'll be AMD ^^.
Btw a good air cooler/noctua fan is often better than most liquid coolers
I can relate about the SSD size. I also recently upgraded my system and got a WD Black SN 850 500 GB SSD and it blew my mind seeing how small it was. Before the upgrade, I was on a WD Green 1 TB 5400 RPM HDD (not sure about the model) so the jump from HDD which is about the size of a wallet to SSD which like you said was about the size of a gum with even 500 GB storage was quite astonishing.
Wasnt it supposed to click once you turn the lock on screws hard enough?
I've only watched a second, but you got a like for the Lain thumbnail
Agreed on RGB lighting.
Congrats on the new rig!
Also the synthwave made this vid too perfect.
Therapeutic and I am in Dreamland right now lol. Damn the ultimate PC. Crazy.
Other people buy 3000$ rig to play cutting edge video games
Mental outlaw buys a 3000$ rig to install Gentoo
Absolute Madlad
Probably closer to 6000$ and he still needs GPU's.
LoL. The CPU alone is $2000+.
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Idd and a 1000$ motherboard. He should have bought the a 32C from the EPYIC 7003 series (if available) instead of this Threadripper solution in my opinion.
Rip those threads my bro!!! Nice one
i’ve inspired so many people to take my place on my throne it looks like...
First threadripper video I ever saw. That CPU is massive holy chip
Hey, congrats with the new rig! But why did you put your thermal paste in a such weird way? I suppose - and I've actually done this myself - that thin layer of the thermal paste should cover the whole surface of the processor's top. I have a "conventional" Ryzen 7 pro 3700, I've just dropped a couple of dots of the thermal paste upon the processor and then carefully spread it with my finger put into a plastic bag (polyethylene gloves which became a normal thing in the covid era would also go). Also, there are small spades particularly designed for spreading the thermal paste upon the processor, but I find it more convenient to use just a finger.
The cooler already spreads the thermal paste for you
What do you think happens when you tighten down the cooler?
We're no longer brothers both using the 4790K! Nice upgrade brother
Fun fact: if you take apart the SSD drive you showcased, you will notice it actually only takes up half of the casing (so it's roughly double the size of nvme)
My dream... hopefully I reach there too one day
*I will forever be in-depted to you 😇 you've changed my life I'll continue to preach about your name for the world to hear,* *you've saved me from a huge financial debt with just little investment, Thanks Ms Karen Investment* 🇺🇸🇺🇸
That’s sounds truthful I really want to invest $1000
How do I reach her out??
That's a wonderful system, congrats. Well deserved! :)
Now what we all need and want is a full video of a real-time Gentoo install on that system. The compiling porn will be epic.
EARN IT Act video when?
They are banning end-to-end encryption to "Protect the children."
I have very little idea what's going on on this video, but I love it.
... AMD PSP :
I see a man of culture. Let's All Love Lain
Daaaamn that Serial Experiments Lain on the thumbnail!
Ramdisk is cool idea. Gotta put that ram to use when not compiling.
Everyone is saying this but we NEED to see a gentoo install on this bad boy, you probably don't even need to speed up the video ;)
I would love to see a video series building a LFS System.
I think it would be very educational, given your knowledge of linux and how well you can explain stuff.
Coming for Lain, staying for the music!
I have used RAM Disk many times
First time out was 1996 on Commodore Amiga 1200 (RAM Disk there was pretty much same implementation, as Linux one - using cache). At the same time I was using RAD - Recoverable RAM Disk, as Commodore Amiga OS was neither counting memory nor resting it at all, you could have reset surviving RAM Disk from which you could even boot
@19:51
Yeah, I love that first world problem. It's great. Half the tips and tricks that the slower folk get to have at their advantage, I have to figure out for myself.
Can confirm, does compiling well