Traction Pad and Foot Placement for surfing

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Just wanted to put a video out that talked a little bit about traction pad and foot placement. In this video, I talk about these things:
    1) Pet Peeve - finger pressures from people who squeeze boards in stores
    2) Traction pad placement
    3) Installing a traction pad
    4) Foot placement for speed and turns
    Preview of the El Tomo which will hopefully get reviewed by next weekend.
    Check out HSS Warner for firewire blems that cost around $500 instead of $800.
    #hsssurf
    #huntingtonsurfandsport

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  • @nottherealmccoy4955
    @nottherealmccoy4955 3 роки тому +4

    Great tutorial Thomye, clear & concise instructions with the reasons for placing it as you did! 11/10 :)

  • @rctrix9063
    @rctrix9063 Рік тому +1

    This is a great how2. I have a system of leash cords that's a bit different. Using 45cm of 4mm cord I fold it end to end as usual, thread it through as usual and the thread that loop through the rail- saver. Finally I double loop the looped end a push the kno through the double loop. It works for those cheapo rail-savers but then you can swap them out for another board, without threading the whole leggy back through the rope.
    It's the same system they use to attach the lines to a kiteboarding kite.

  • @alanhart6407
    @alanhart6407 3 роки тому +2

    Love the videos!!
    Would love a video on fin selection and choosing the right fin for your skill level, board, and wave.
    Thanks!

  • @SkipperSurfReview
    @SkipperSurfReview 3 роки тому +2

    Sick tutorial! Pretty clear and sufficient! Can't wait to see El Tomo Fish review. My buddy said it needs more juicy wave to get it moving!

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому +1

      I got it out today and it's crazy how different it surfs from the Modern 2. I would have thought certain things would be similar. quick spoiler, the board is the opposite of the Modern2. The ET surfs bigger than it is while the M2 surfs smaller. haha but I think I am getting why it does and might help with other board selection.

    • @FuzzyL0g1c
      @FuzzyL0g1c 3 роки тому

      @@ThomyeSurfs what do you mean when you say it surfs bigger?

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому +2

      @@FuzzyL0g1c my El Tomo is a 5'6 but it surfs like a 5'9. Some boards surf bigger and others smaller. Example, my Sharpeye modern 2 is also a 5'6 but feel like a 5'3. My neckbeard 2 is a 5'6 and surfs like it's 5'6. I think the outline and design has a lot to do with it as well as flex. I'm finding this El Tomo has little to no flex. but I have only been on it once so far so might be premature. although I did have 3 solid waves on it and it felt big on all 3.

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      @@FuzzyL0g1c quick thing, forget to mentions that big isn't a bad thing, just a sensation. sometimes, it's a good thing cuz bigger feels more stable. Hopefully I will get some footage this weekend.

    • @FuzzyL0g1c
      @FuzzyL0g1c 3 роки тому

      @@ThomyeSurfs looking forward to your review!

  • @boltup5566
    @boltup5566 3 роки тому +2

    Maybe you mentioned this...it's good to have the leash string short so it doesn't slice through your board on a wipe out.
    My buddy has that board. He swears by a twin fin setup with small trailer.

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому +1

      I actually didn't mention that, but I should have. as for the 2+1 setup, I would love to try that except mine didn't come with a center plug. :( it's a dedicated quad.

  • @taradead
    @taradead 2 роки тому +1

    On my pod mod as a thruster, I have to turn with my back foot a little farther forward than directly over the center fin...or the board gets out of control loose. However, as a quad, my foot has to be directly over the trailers.

  • @DeforestLCooper
    @DeforestLCooper 3 роки тому

    Great video on how to put traction on that style of tail. I think Tomo or Firewire should share this video on to properly put a pad on this model! :) Great work Tommy!

  • @jnoonanuk
    @jnoonanuk 3 роки тому +1

    Hey, great video! Thanks so much for doing this vid. This is a great vid and perfectly answers my question, and I've got a swallow tail! thanks, loving your vids 👍😆

  • @donatkinson1596
    @donatkinson1596 3 роки тому

    Looking forward to the review - thanks!

  • @miarritzekosurfari
    @miarritzekosurfari Рік тому +1

    Cool videos. Thanks ✨🔥

  • @terenceingram7786
    @terenceingram7786 3 роки тому +1

    You going to try the Tomo specific quads for this board?

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      not sure. I'm not sure they will add much to the board and to drop $150 for something I might try once scares me. I would love to try the H4 quads in this. sort of a miniature version of the tomo fin idea.

  • @edcruz11
    @edcruz11 3 місяці тому

    Aloha, How would you recommend taking off an old traction to put on a new one?

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 місяці тому +1

      There is no easy way. I would say hair dryer or heat gun. You don't want to heat it too much though. Just a very slight bit because the goal is to heat up the glue on the board to pad contact. If you heat up too much, you end up loosening up the glue to the pad. so when you peel it off, you end up with the glue left over on the board is which 10x harder to remove. Hope that makes sense. Just go slow, peel off a corner and heat from under while you are peeling vs on top of the pad.

  • @MrLbmalibu
    @MrLbmalibu 3 роки тому

    It may be the optics, but those performers look like large size. Are they and curious on your thoughts on sizing the fins on a quad?

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      they are actually medium. I thought they looked big too. But so far, they have been working really well. I also thought the rear fins looked way too big. I normally ride the stretch quads which are shorter broader fins but I don't have an FCS set. Most of my quads for some reason are in futures. I need to get a set of the reactor quad rears and performance quad set. then i'll be able to test all boards with upright, balanced, and raked back fins.
      I always like bigger fins on smaller waves. I'm 5'8 145 and if I followed the recommendations of the fins companies, i would have to buy the small fins. Which is rather bad info. even if you look at pro women, some weighing less than 125, I see them using large fanning fins but it is always for smaller days. Everything in water becomes bigger with speed. so a small fin at 26 mph in water gets stretched out (not physically but hydrodynamically). Anyways, I use that as my rule of thumb. Bigger fins for smaller days, smaller fins for bigger punchier days. I stick with large fins f the waves are big and mushy.

  • @Nick-bl6hm
    @Nick-bl6hm 3 роки тому +2

    No no no Thomye, you got it all wrong, pad goes in the middle of the board cus that's where you stand!
    While I don't really like FireWire boards, at least you'll probably enjoy the Tomo and let other people know what you think about it. I don't need any more boards so juat curious what youre chucking your money at haha

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      LOL. yeah, this one was sort of a bargain. did you see all those finger pressures? I got the board for $475. came home and sold my Dom2 to make up the cost. it was a good wash between selling and buying. I will review this thing ASAP and get rid of it along with a few others. You might be right about the traction pad in the middle though. One of my buddies swears he has never stepped on his traction pad that he put on the tail. haha

    • @Nick-bl6hm
      @Nick-bl6hm 3 роки тому +2

      @@ThomyeSurfs 475 is a good deal for a new board, but I've seen too many custom Tomo clones or used tomos to even think about spending$ 300+. But you can probably have a tax right off one any losses for the business.
      I'm itching to see what you think of more classic and weird shapes like a Simmons, Ryan birch type fishes or single fins.
      Other than that, production and commentary is on point, just need new sources of content

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      @@Nick-bl6hm I will definitely need to have a conversation with my accountant.

  • @GuiKeller
    @GuiKeller 3 роки тому

    Nice video, looking forward to the board review. Why did you decide to get the El Tomo?

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      they had a couple of blems and I had just the exact amount from selling my Dominator 2. Figured it was worth a try.

  • @alexandredaubresse7699
    @alexandredaubresse7699 2 роки тому

    Hi man, I can't seem to find the right placement for my feet .. I am shortboard surfing at an intermediate level and I would like to maneuver a little harder ... But I can't manage to place my back foot at the bottom of my pad, it is still very advanced, almost limit on the board .. When I try to pull it back, I am immediately with my legs too wide apart .. and therefore uncomfortable .. How can I change that? My front foot must also be too far forward I imagine, because when I do my takeoff I just place it in my hands? Do I have to step back on the board even if it means taking fewer waves, or do I move my hands back more at the level of the abdomen? Thank you for your advice!

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  2 роки тому

      how tall are you and how tall is your board?

    • @alexandredaubresse7699
      @alexandredaubresse7699 2 роки тому

      @@ThomyeSurfs 6' both

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  2 роки тому +1

      @@alexandredaubresse7699 these are the toughest questions. but I will tell you that I had the same problem at one point in my surfing. I too felt my stance was too wide when stepping back. My primary issue was that I was trying to surf with my feet back and not fully understanding what I actually needed to do. When surfing a board at the same height as oneself, the sweet spot is usually forward. it is the flattest part of the rocker and also the widest part of the board making it the easiest and fastest part to surf on a normal average wave.
      What I have figured out over the years for myself is that I surfing is this constant adjustment of moving forward, back, etc. Unlike something like snowboarding, where you are locked in, surfing is rather fluid. the exact same board can feel different cuz of the wave. One wave could feel great on the tail while another feels off. Anyways, for me, it was all about surfing the tail only to turn or pivot.
      watch this video of Medina. you will see he actaully surfs way up on his board to gain speed and only steps back for the turn itself or air.
      www.surfer.com/surfing-magazine-archive/surfing-video/gabriel-medina-lower-trestles/
      One last thing that helped me was surfing a wide, short, fat board. I surfed a 5'1 Firewire Baked Potato. I'm 5'8. so to feel like I was centered, I was way up on that board but since it was only 5'1, i literally was on the back part of the tail pad by default. After I got used to this board, turning on the tail didn't seem too wide anymore. Not the best advise I can give but try not to "surf" the tail, rather just turn on the tail. I'll also give it more thought to see if I can come up with any actual methods to use.

  • @michaelono7335
    @michaelono7335 3 роки тому

    Question about NB2 in spineteck. Got my custom 5’8 28.9L (usually about 29L) and board feels really stiff in decide to size waves (2-6ft) when turning. Started with my favorite MF large and then switch to JS medium which felt better but not the performance I was looking for. Still slow through turns and didn’t feel high performance at all. Any suggestions? 🤙

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому +1

      do you know where specifically you are standing on the tail? I noticed a similar thing. the board seems super loose rail to rail but turning if i'm not on that back fin or just behind it was difficult. I have a review of it and when you watch it, you will see me really scoot my feet back for turns. I think it's the tail cuz water wants to come evenly off of it and the faster you go, the more you feel it. Sort of like an Alaia board with that block tail. keeps the board wanting to go straight.

    • @michaelono7335
      @michaelono7335 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks, I'll try it a couple more times

  • @pullinside9
    @pullinside9 3 роки тому

    I really hate to have to cut the tailpad to make room for the leash plug. I've done that once. At least they didn't put the leash plug in the center. That moves the pad up even further. The only thing is when they put the plug on the side of the swallow tail, they normally put it on the left side for regular footers. LOL ...You just can't win!

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      Haha. I hate cutting it too. Got my first surf on the Tomo today. Rather stiff board.

    • @pullinside9
      @pullinside9 3 роки тому

      @@ThomyeSurfs Did you get TOMO fins that go with the board? The creepy fingers looking fins?

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому +1

      @@pullinside9 hell no. haha i would have nightmares. :) I don't plan to only because it's money I don't need to spend and it would literally be a throw away cost.

    • @pullinside9
      @pullinside9 3 роки тому

      @@ThomyeSurfs they look gimmicky imo.

  • @josephjones9783
    @josephjones9783 3 роки тому

    Kinda reminds me of a hydra, just more pulled in maybe.

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      Definitely. Hydra proportions are wider so more grovel but it does look similar

  • @josesnowsneves5132
    @josesnowsneves5132 3 роки тому

    nice...now do the same for a pure twin fin :)

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому +1

      Haha. No idea where to pad up a twin. I need to surf more of them.

    • @josesnowsneves5132
      @josesnowsneves5132 3 роки тому

      @@ThomyeSurfs :) yes... I know. I got a call from a friend on the other day which got the JS Red Barron...and he was lost on the where to place the deck since we are use to thrusters

  • @chrisleon9813
    @chrisleon9813 3 роки тому

    Traction pads need to be cheaper! We’re paying 40 for some foam :(

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      I know right? Some things seem worth it and other things are so I reasonable. I bought these on clearance from CI for $16 each. But they suck for traction. I have to wax them which defeats the purpose.

  • @leinosaur
    @leinosaur 3 роки тому +1

    Love the detail... Very helpful, I'm newer to shorter boards and have purchased but held off placing a pad due to uncertainty regarding the intended sweet spot... Think this is gonna help my turns, knowing where that back foot is supposed to get back to. Thanks!

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      you can never go wrong with putting it far back as possible. but you can definitely go wrong if you don't put far back enough. :) Unless you have a traction pad without the kick at the back.

  • @lexdang2551
    @lexdang2551 3 роки тому

    Would this www.realwatersports.com/collections/traction/products/creatures-italo-ferreira-lite-traction-pad-black-carbon be a good alternative to cutting it? I’m not very confident when it comes to crafty things :p

    • @ThomyeSurfs
      @ThomyeSurfs  3 роки тому

      might be better but depends on whether you are using it for a center plug or side plug.