The only place Ruto had not captured was the social media. Trust me he's going all out to capture it. Watch out for all the positive comments and praise towards Ruto moving forward.
Otero Ana jielewa huyu Ni prezoo Bado hangeweza kumuongelea kwa hasira Kama mnavyo fikiria matusi mengi na hasira mingi haiwezi saidia Bali itaharibu kabisa
@@AnkoLolo-mv5bk I am not in support of disrespect at any level and elsewhere I had said...Language ya Ruto ni respect and intelligent presentation,that is how he hears. That aside, Osama has no interviewing skills experience and that's why I said it was scripted. Like @Mwaf,a lot was not addressed and it didn't help that it was a one man panel,there was no control
That space was choreographed, Otero was in statehouse and most who wanted to ask tough questions were dropped. Most people were either dropped or removed or couldn't enter the space best example is Larry Madowo
@@allanjuma8772 i disagree stop spreading rumors. When you are required to ask questions some of you guy were nowhere. But many questions were asked which one did you want or expected Larry to ask that he hasn't been asked.lets be fair and serious.
Mm nimerudi kusema GenZ hawaezi kuwa viongozi hao ndio hatari kabisa kwa kupenda pesa watauza hii nchi afazali NI vote wazeee but hawa vijana wanatamaa zaidi ndio huyo otero wenzetu wameuliwa watu wengine wagonjwa yy huyo ameenda Kula chakula state house na pesa na nyote mko hivyo mukipewa nafasi mutaenda kukula Shem on u
Dialogue changes nothing its a formality to show international partners that the president's office is involved and actually cares about the Kenyan people,its aploy to water down the fires of revolution eventually all this controversy and anger will be subdued and we will go back to the status quo
Wewe Makarios. The softness of the Space was prepared by you when you told guys to go soft on the President. That said, I feel it was prudent not to go too hard on the President with insults & 2-Pac grade missiles. At the end of the day, we are all humans, even Ruto. Going too hard on him would only sully the mood, leaving a situation where the speaker is angry, Ruto is also off his rocker, asking "unanipigia makelele kama nani?" At the end, because most people cower easily, they would be intimidated by such engagement. Decorum is a good thing even with a known murderer, ICC-indictee, hypocrite & pathological liar.
Mwafrika, another problem with this X-Space was that an inordinately large number of people were locked out, ostensibly unable to fetch the space. I logged in at about 2:30 p.m heard the President's introductory remarks, then there was fidgeting & whispering, lost any audio signal until I disconnected a dejected fellow. I rejoined at 4:50 p.m, was successful and got the tough talking guy from Kimilili (who told Ruto about Murkomen's failures as a Lawyer, registered disappointment with the amalgamation of donkey poop & soil his parents had wasted harden-earned cash on as fertilizer and threatened to vote out Ruto's hangers on including Ruto himself in 2027 if he did not shape up), the chap who could not speak English who called nani "Baba Charlene, the President's seeking permission to leave as he was to flag off an Olympic contingent, a lady & guy trying to give their comments concurrently & the space ending unceremoniously as I was trying to request to get my points in myself. So Yes, the Space turned out underwhelming & anticlimactic, in my opinion.
I don’t understand this trust thing coz who is otero representing coz we don’t have a leader or a representative our movement is unstoppable it’s a journey we’ve started it’s gonna be long and messy. For me nothing will change we push for change in 254
I think the statement by Ruto ati he'd rather lose and the country wins is quite hypocritical. The country is shouting what it wants, that he must go. If he means what he says, he should start by getting out of the way and not working hard to convince people why he should stay
I think what should have been discussed is why you were on the streets in the first place. But without disregarding the aftermath, lest you forget, those things could not have happened without people asking to be heard
Appointments hufanywa according to what you deliver on the table it does not neccesarily mean voters. Some politicians have votes others have influence and can broker deals. Look at it kama gikomba, kuna watu hawana merchandise but wanarun vitu huko.
People need to make up their minds .Do they want to engage with the president or not.My view it was balanced. If it were too confrontational it would have descended to chaos. Secondly, it creates a false sense of security for him which implies he will avail himself more for Space in future ,providing more opportunity to put him to task in future .Finally, why propagate for gatekeeping .Everybody should be allowed to join whether they support him or not. That's how democracies work. As for Otero i support him fully ,ilikuwa ikue hosted na watu wa statehouse alafu muanze kosokoso.
All those dominant figures on X missed an opportunity to put the president to task if at all they agreed to hold the space they would have taken charge of the whole conversation ,they acted very immature with Thier #boycottthepresidentspace the big headednes displayed by some of this characters is unacceptable.
He never also cancelled office of 1st lady etc. All he did was remove budget for this year. The office still remains with 100s employees. They will continue being funded via backdoor. Wakenya tuache kua this gullible!!!
If he Otero was paid and he went at state house then he is over mrungura utammaliza kama wasaliti wa mau mau. But mambo ya kusema ati watu wengi walikatwa wasiongee sio ukweli. Ruto alikuwa akitupia mda mwingi kujiongea alafu mwenye kuongea limited to dakika tatu au maswali machache wengine walikuwan na shida ya mtandao hapo sasa mlalamikie Safaricom na Airtel lazima wafikishe mtandao kila mahali.
Hizo issues zote zenye hazikuulizwa, to make the space underwhelming... You mean to say none of you two noted the space was muzzled? Only 'controlled' speakers were given the mic, they few 'uncontrolled' ones wenye walishika mic ilikua inakua muted na host/co-host... Don't believe ati they had internet issues. Osama na Hussein had all this planned out!
No police will be arrested he send him to do his dirty Job so our youth still have hope Ruto will change sorry but he cant they should continue dreaming Ruto has interest of america and must fulfil them
@@wycliffepoet5201 no iwas waiting for you to take me there why the insult? Ujinga tu make you point and tell me what idid without in how many degree you have since you know who passed in Nursery or not?
i didnt know men fall for this natural born predator leading kenya , a predator is always calculating, he is supposed to be totally shunned, we demand iebc must return we just vote him out since it seems people dont want to use other methods that exist which doesnt make sence at all
You are missing the point on the Potato argument. The idea is to protect local farmers. Companies like KFC import their own Potatoes from other countries. Imagine what would happen if were forced to buy locally. The local farmers would benefit a lot.
I don't think Osama betrayed GenZ coz 1. GenZ dont have a leader 2. We were demonstrating coz of we need our our voices to be heard now when we have the chance why not take it and appreciate the efforts made. Actually those who didn't join to air thier issue are the ones who failled the movement
@@SMulyungi people not joining was not their problem. Twitter space itself had challenges from 2pm if you have ever joined or tried to join a space of many people that will be familiar to you.
@@johnkeen1862 this necessary thing he was supposed to do is what we need to facilitate what is it?. And let's be realistic don't just get mad and emotional for no good reason. If we have a petition we need to provide an immediate alternative.
How come when police happen to shoot victims caught up in demonstrations, the so called human rights activists and NGOs are the first ones on the scene and they just happen to film the shooting from when the police aims the gun, when he pulls the trigger and when the victim falls/injured/or becomes a fatality? These so called human rights activists then immediately post the videos online including every detail of the shootings from A-Z, followed by an appeal for DONATIONS! long before anyone even the civilians or journalists who are present at the "shooting" can do so. More interesting is the fact that the civilians with phones who take the footage of the shooting, normally just take snippets of it, for instance when the victim has already been shot and is lying on the ground. it's never full footage but the "human rights activists" will have full footage every detail including number of bullets, policeman details etc. How do they know that the shooting is going to happen? how do they know the number of bullets when a bullet travels faster than light? But when a policeman happens to be caught by a crowd and attacked, there is never a human rights activist on the scene to take the footage and post it immediately! . Civilians who are there are the ones who happen to take those videos! Point is the so called human rights activists and NGOs are the greatest scammers only equal to yahoo boys and politicians!
Otero should not be trusted from now going forward
Otero is a punani
Another reason why leaderless movements are very strong
@@gitongadavid6449 He's a traitor and should be avoided at all Costa. He may turn into spying for his new friends.
@@gitongadavid6449 clueless movement
@@amihusali4130he just need greatings
Otero is a sellout. He should be categorized and treated like Ruto: an enemy of the people.
The only place Ruto had not captured was the social media. Trust me he's going all out to capture it. Watch out for all the positive comments and praise towards Ruto moving forward.
Ruto has not captured alot and the events of the last 2 weeks have demonstrated that their are forces behind the scene that do not support him...
I was waiting for THE OSAMA analysis🤣🤣. That was a scripted interview to save the President's face.
Otero Ana jielewa huyu Ni prezoo Bado hangeweza kumuongelea kwa hasira Kama mnavyo fikiria matusi mengi na hasira mingi haiwezi saidia Bali itaharibu kabisa
@@AnkoLolo-mv5bk I am not in support of disrespect at any level and elsewhere I had said...Language ya Ruto ni respect and intelligent presentation,that is how he hears. That aside, Osama has no interviewing skills experience and that's why I said it was scripted. Like @Mwaf,a lot was not addressed and it didn't help that it was a one man panel,there was no control
That space was choreographed, Otero was in statehouse and most who wanted to ask tough questions were dropped. Most people were either dropped or removed or couldn't enter the space best example is Larry Madowo
@@allanjuma8772 i disagree stop spreading rumors. When you are required to ask questions some of you guy were nowhere. But many questions were asked which one did you want or expected Larry to ask that he hasn't been asked.lets be fair and serious.
@@carrasco416 ilikua inakataa kabisa shida ilikua nn
The meeting was for gen z not us but we gatecrashed😂
Mm nimerudi kusema GenZ hawaezi kuwa viongozi hao ndio hatari kabisa kwa kupenda pesa watauza hii nchi afazali NI vote wazeee but hawa vijana wanatamaa zaidi ndio huyo otero wenzetu wameuliwa watu wengine wagonjwa yy huyo ameenda Kula chakula state house na pesa na nyote mko hivyo mukipewa nafasi mutaenda kukula Shem on u
@@carrasco416 machungu niya nni na ni ukweli?
I feel sorry for the people who haven't discovered or subscribed to "IKO NINI"
Am sorry you think they are oxygen
Yani I feel some type of way niki miss hii pod..dopamine levels hukuwa huku ivi manze😅
@@icecoldmac1081😂😂umeamuwa tu ku vent..
It was terrible one sided state controlled PR exercise.
Thank you for pointing that out.
It was intentional the speakers as part of the scrip who were chosen for a particular narrative. Otero was used..
@@fredrickomondi2537 hapo mumechezwa.... Open your eyes....certain people were only allowed to ask questions...
The Gen Z saw it coming.Osamas opinion ni yake.We need action Saba saba.Osoma kula kabsaa we need kila mtu afike level ya Sudi!
Dialogue changes nothing its a formality to show international partners that the president's office is involved and actually cares about the Kenyan people,its aploy to water down the fires of revolution eventually all this controversy and anger will be subdued and we will go back to the status quo
Can't agree more.
Bro what are you talking about. That crowd was Ruto's crowd . The people asking questions were hand picked starting with otero
Consider inviting him and ask him those questions
Wewe Makarios. The softness of the Space was prepared by you when you told guys to go soft on the President.
That said, I feel it was prudent not to go too hard on the President with insults & 2-Pac grade missiles.
At the end of the day, we are all humans, even Ruto. Going too hard on him would only sully the mood, leaving a situation where the speaker is angry, Ruto is also off his rocker, asking "unanipigia makelele kama nani?"
At the end, because most people cower easily, they would be intimidated by such engagement.
Decorum is a good thing even with a known murderer, ICC-indictee, hypocrite & pathological liar.
State controls the narrative. It takes strong and radical individuals to keep the state in check.
Mwafrika, another problem with this X-Space was that an inordinately large number of people were locked out, ostensibly unable to fetch the space.
I logged in at about 2:30 p.m heard the President's introductory remarks, then there was fidgeting & whispering, lost any audio signal until I disconnected a dejected fellow.
I rejoined at 4:50 p.m, was successful and got the tough talking guy from Kimilili (who told Ruto about Murkomen's failures as a Lawyer, registered disappointment with the amalgamation of donkey poop & soil his parents had wasted harden-earned cash on as fertilizer and threatened to vote out Ruto's hangers on including Ruto himself in 2027 if he did not shape up), the chap who could not speak English who called nani "Baba Charlene, the President's seeking permission to leave as he was to flag off an Olympic contingent, a lady & guy trying to give their comments concurrently & the space ending unceremoniously as I was trying to request to get my points in myself.
So Yes, the Space turned out underwhelming & anticlimactic, in my opinion.
I love vile unachambua politics, easy and very candid
Instead of all these stupid games why can't the president address all the issues being raised by kenyans .
He was probably paid.
I would say not probably, something was cooked for him.
From what I have gathered the person betrayed is Kogi. He did not attend his funeral
That was sad and kogi was his friend. Then you host his killer
Money exchanged hands.......
Remember ipk party,balala refused Moi's money,he is poor very poor,tis 2024
People should stay away from him. You never know what he was told by his seemingly new friends.
Ati the president knows a lie😂
I don’t understand this trust thing coz who is otero representing coz we don’t have a leader or a representative our movement is unstoppable it’s a journey we’ve started it’s gonna be long and messy. For me nothing will change we push for change in 254
I think the statement by Ruto ati he'd rather lose and the country wins is quite hypocritical. The country is shouting what it wants, that he must go. If he means what he says, he should start by getting out of the way and not working hard to convince people why he should stay
"Apa kuna pesa mob itatembea ndio watu watulie"...kibeandy
what ruto said was hearsay , nothing has been published on the kenya gazette
nyinyi pia ni sell outs. Such a shame!
Mwaf enda uskize space yenye Osama aliweka jana akiwa mlevi.
Saba saba!
Mwaf how sweet was this BANANA bread😂
I think what should have been discussed is why you were on the streets in the first place. But without disregarding the aftermath, lest you forget, those things could not have happened without people asking to be heard
NIS walipatia Otero hizo "confidential expenditure" during his "abduction"
Edith akienda kuongea Otero alisema hawamskii and they moved on
Gethurai ppl are saying the government has the bodies 😢
Appointments hufanywa according to what you deliver on the table it does not neccesarily mean voters. Some politicians have votes others have influence and can broker deals. Look at it kama gikomba, kuna watu hawana merchandise but wanarun vitu huko.
Osama nenyuma kabisa. Huyo msee alinunuliwa. He's officially a sellout!
Corrupted mind!!
People need to make up their minds .Do they want to engage with the president or not.My view it was balanced. If it were too confrontational it would have descended to chaos. Secondly, it creates a false sense of security for him which implies he will avail himself more for Space in future ,providing more opportunity to put him to task in future .Finally, why propagate for gatekeeping .Everybody should be allowed to join whether they support him or not. That's how democracies work. As for Otero i support him fully ,ilikuwa ikue hosted na watu wa statehouse alafu muanze kosokoso.
The issue is not Otero hosting.Issue ni he lied to people
You're wise
Iko nini
All those dominant figures on X missed an opportunity to put the president to task if at all they agreed to hold the space they would have taken charge of the whole conversation ,they acted very immature with Thier #boycottthepresidentspace the big headednes displayed by some of this characters is unacceptable.
By the lo ok of things it was never an open discussion but rather a pre-designed one.
That's not True Most of the Guys were locked out.
He never also cancelled office of 1st lady etc. All he did was remove budget for this year. The office still remains with 100s employees. They will continue being funded via backdoor. Wakenya tuache kua this gullible!!!
Look who is talking
They beat his ass
For me i didn't join his level of gaslighting is extreme 🤣
I think Mwaf strategy ndo Gen-Z hwakua nayo. Like questions you are asking very healthy ones but no one asked
If he Otero was paid and he went at state house then he is over mrungura utammaliza kama wasaliti wa mau mau. But mambo ya kusema ati watu wengi walikatwa wasiongee sio ukweli. Ruto alikuwa akitupia mda mwingi kujiongea alafu mwenye kuongea limited to dakika tatu au maswali machache wengine walikuwan na shida ya mtandao hapo sasa mlalamikie Safaricom na Airtel lazima wafikishe mtandao kila mahali.
There should be no more x Space na huyo jamaa it ended up being better than the interview with citizen ni favour of of wezi
Hizo issues zote zenye hazikuulizwa, to make the space underwhelming... You mean to say none of you two noted the space was muzzled? Only 'controlled' speakers were given the mic, they few 'uncontrolled' ones wenye walishika mic ilikua inakua muted na host/co-host... Don't believe ati they had internet issues. Osama na Hussein had all this planned out!
I would rather Otero eat the money than MPigs
Divide and rule
Otero anafaa kusalimiwa
Yes this otero betrayed Gen Z and is so bad
No police will be arrested he send him to do his dirty Job so our youth still have hope Ruto will change sorry but he cant they should continue dreaming Ruto has interest of america and must fulfil them
@@catherineikovwa3401did you pass through nursery school
@@wycliffepoet5201 no iwas waiting for you to take me there why the insult do you know me?
@@wycliffepoet5201 no iwas waiting for you to take me there why the insult? Ujinga tu make you point and tell me what idid without in how many degree you have since you know who passed in Nursery or not?
From now on he is with himself, not with Gen z.
Patia Ian cofta
Mwaf unakuwanga msee wa otero so lazima uside na yeye.. Alai na otero wote hatakama hawakulipwa as they say aaaah guys fucked up real big
hiyo nugu naskia imekajwa 5m
mwaf you cannot defend Otero, nikama you donno the whole storo...
i didnt know men fall for this natural born predator leading kenya , a predator is always calculating, he is supposed to be totally shunned, we demand iebc must return we just vote him out since it seems people dont want to use other methods that exist which doesnt make sence at all
You are missing the point on the Potato argument. The idea is to protect local farmers. Companies like KFC import their own Potatoes from other countries. Imagine what would happen if were forced to buy locally. The local farmers would benefit a lot.
why did mwaf not talk
It doesn't matter now whether he was paid or threatened...... It's all too late for that, what I know is that he was on the wrong side
And should be avoided. No one knows whether he madea deal to sell people Out.
@@lorrdolly ...forgive him n watch, ruto is manipulative
mgongo iko aje mwaf?
Osama alilipwa no doubt
I don't think Osama betrayed GenZ coz
1. GenZ dont have a leader
2. We were demonstrating coz of we need our our voices to be heard now when we have the chance why not take it and appreciate the efforts made.
Actually those who didn't join to air thier issue are the ones who failled the movement
Not all could join, this thing was choreographed...
It had a limited access
Not all of as were allowed 😊
This thing doesn't need leadership the agenda was there president was just to do the necessary
@@SMulyungi people not joining was not their problem. Twitter space itself had challenges from 2pm if you have ever joined or tried to join a space of many people that will be familiar to you.
@@johnkeen1862 this necessary thing he was supposed to do is what we need to facilitate what is it?. And let's be realistic don't just get mad and emotional for no good reason. If we have a petition we need to provide an immediate alternative.
Mwafrika you have too many adds break hata kama ni pesa jamani
Ganji lazma ndugu yangu. Times are tough. Acha wazee wapate dough.
I don't blame otero huyu msee amecheza part yake vizuri kilicho baki itakuwa Ni kiburi gavaa imewaelewa gen z
Space fake
.....re you guys paid 😂....or you guys ni sellout
How come when police happen to shoot victims caught up in demonstrations, the so called human rights activists and NGOs are the first ones on the scene and they just happen to film the shooting from when the police aims the gun, when he pulls the trigger and when the victim falls/injured/or becomes a fatality? These so called human rights activists then immediately post the videos online including every detail of the shootings from A-Z, followed by an appeal for DONATIONS! long before anyone even the civilians or journalists who are present at the "shooting" can do so. More interesting is the fact that the civilians with phones who take the footage of the shooting, normally just take snippets of it, for instance when the victim has already been shot and is lying on the ground. it's never full footage but the "human rights activists" will have full footage every detail including number of bullets, policeman details etc. How do they know that the shooting is going to happen? how do they know the number of bullets when a bullet travels faster than light? But when a policeman happens to be caught by a crowd and attacked, there is never a human rights activist on the scene to take the footage and post it immediately! . Civilians who are there are the ones who happen to take those videos! Point is the so called human rights activists and NGOs are the greatest scammers only equal to yahoo boys and politicians!