BEFORE YOU COMMENT, i am NOT calling any of the towers in the vid "bad" or "useless". im only saying that the COMMUNITY often calls these towers "bad" (yes theyre dumb because these towers arent bad.) the whole point of this vid is to try and disprove that these towers are as bad as everyone says they are.
@@RealJGuy It was very good for speed running but after a huge nerf everyone basically ignored the tower (the only time it gets used is for the damage buff on bosses)
“they’re dumb” i don’t recall anyone calling the towers you had bad, except sniper and cryo ranger, they’re straight up DOOKIE and it’s true what’s the point in having them when cryo blaster and operator have significant benefits? before you say “HURR SNIPER IS LONG RANGE OPERATOR”, let me remind you that operator is made for intermediate, elite and some events, so bottom path can help knowing it has a decent unit and not a tower you have to move to the back, this also helps with armored enemies since, well, it rams not to mention, *IT’S FREE!* operator also has more DPS on both paths and doesn’t waste a slot, unlike sniper, who needs another starter tower to support him (ranger to piece armor, or maybe the HUMVEES on bottom path i talked about earlier?) all of that in mind, and now we know why the hell you died to revived abominations
@@blueislifelifeisrobloxive seen a lot of ppl talkin smack about some of these towers before, not just cryo and sniper, such as patrol boat bein hated on for its lack of stealth, toxicnator wasnt hated before the big nerf (mentioned above), but after the nerf it was considered "useless" by a lot of ppl other than its boss nerf ability because there were better options, ranger and mine layer were never hated but they are balanced for beginners, so they're automatically worse than other towers (also i only used them in the vid cuz i had 2 tower slots left and no other towers that worked as "bad" towers) (also r u hatin on me or the towers i used? i cant rlly tell)
Tdx players in my opinion have become so reliant on end-game towers to carry them. Like, back before endless (which I'll just refer to the demo) all you really needed to join a team was laser gunner, and mabye missile trooper. But post-demo people say stuff like "NEED WARSHIP OR GOLDEN JUGG" and they're only lev 50 or smth.
yeah you're right, pre-endless tdx is a completely different game from post endless.. but matchmaking will probably make it much easier for lower lvl players to find a decent team
im level 107 or something and i still use some kind towers like operator, ghost, armored factory and toxicnator to beat elits modes and stuff also whoever said toxicnator is bad simply do not understand how reliable it is to wipe crowds of weak zombies
if you're talking about just doing like expert and stuff then yeah no reason to need gold jug or warship or anything like that, but i mostly see this for endless and endless is you know, an actually hard gamemode? that these towers are MADE FOR?
@@ultra5051ghost is just operator but better, no real reason to use both. armoured factory is still a good tower after the nerfs, noones shitting on armoured factory (to my knowledge atleast) toxicnator is mainly used for 10% damage buff but theres just better support
"pAtrol bOat iS bAd!" The patrol boat that carried my early game start in survival 202 elite: (If you're wondering im using flametrooper, relic, john, pboat duh, missile trooper and edj for the loadout)
I don't think the community is necessarily calling these towers bad or useless, but they're extremely outclassed by other towers. Most high-level players aim to have an optimal loadout, and it's like, why would I ever use a patrol boat when it requires me to take up another slot so I can use a sniper to reveal stealth enemies? rather than use that slot for farms and replace the patrol boat for something like Ghost, Gold Ranger, or even Operator? The same could be said for other towers that are classed as "bad." But sure, even if the community weren't calling these towers outclassed and straight-up said they were useless, a majority of these outclassed towers are useless in terms of people who want to grind the game for hours. An optimal loadout should be able to handle itself on its own with little microing, considering the fact that when you grind, you want the towers that can be the most efficient at their job to make the grind faster and worth your time. This is a strategy game, and unless you're doing an impossible map, I only see Toxicnator being somewhat useful… and for an impossible map, of course, Cryo Ranger is very useful. However apart from these outliers... These towers are useless in the grand scheme of things. Cool video tho, keep up the grind bro
yeah, ur completely right about the fact that these towers get left behind in the dust just because theres better options that do basically the exact same things, just better. but i have seen ppl complainin before on places like reddit/discord, about these towers being so outclassed they're automatically "bad", which led me to make this video. anyways, thx for the compliment :]
I’m 90% sure everyone is who calls some of these towers bad never played the TRUE beta version of Tdx , b4 endless release. I still remember people wanting laser gunner for expert mode but really operator is still good for it. Calling patrol boat bad is a crime, they just don’t know how to place one stealth detection tower in their loadout, they want a tower to carry them in all aspects, cost efficiency,has all detections, high dps and all that stuff. Then replace all extra tower slots with supports and sub dps cuz ik they are all not dumb enough to at least have a sub dps.
They are wrong patrol boat is the best tower for maps with small bodies of water like seriously it’s dps on bottom path is close to juggernaut’s plus it’s splash Damage insane
I remember getting 16 top paths and one bottom path to kill the eradicator mk 2. Considering that it's an early-mid game crowd control tower it's surprisingly impressive.
After like 3 hours of testing i can confidently say: this is not possible, the lack of stealth will kill you has snipers stealth reveal doesnt last long enought to be used properly
all I have to say is that: tdx is based on your skill and what combination of towers you use and how you use them, not how strong towers have you brought
toxicnator isn't "useless" or "bad" but. the 10% dmg buff against bosses can save your ass in endless or anything where the bosses have a unholy amount of hp.
yeah, true. but the whole point of this vid is to kinda disprove that these towers are as bad as everyone says they are, im not saying toxicnator is bad or useless
@Exynthic oh dang why tdx doesn’t give mobile players justice like how counteriser accidentally use golden zed and you need to double click to place tower can’t they just add new setting for us mobile players?
@@ExynthicI hear nobody saying that patrol boat is bad, sniper has just fell off the meta (probably because g jugg helicopter ETC), toxicnator is just mid
BEFORE YOU COMMENT, i am NOT calling any of the towers in the vid "bad" or "useless". im only saying that the COMMUNITY often calls these towers "bad" (yes theyre dumb because these towers arent bad.) the whole point of this vid is to try and disprove that these towers are as bad as everyone says they are.
idk why the community calls toxicnator bad its literally good
@@RealJGuy It was very good for speed running but after a huge nerf everyone basically ignored the tower (the only time it gets used is for the damage buff on bosses)
@@RandomIdiot54 might wanna phrase that better
“they’re dumb”
i don’t recall anyone calling the towers you had bad, except sniper and cryo ranger, they’re straight up DOOKIE and it’s true
what’s the point in having them when cryo blaster and operator have significant benefits? before you say “HURR SNIPER IS LONG RANGE OPERATOR”, let me remind you that operator is made for intermediate, elite and some events, so bottom path can help knowing it has a decent unit and not a tower you have to move to the back, this also helps with armored enemies since, well, it rams
not to mention, *IT’S FREE!*
operator also has more DPS on both paths and doesn’t waste a slot, unlike sniper, who needs another starter tower to support him (ranger to piece armor, or maybe the HUMVEES on bottom path i talked about earlier?)
all of that in mind, and now we know why the hell you died to revived abominations
@@blueislifelifeisrobloxive seen a lot of ppl talkin smack about some of these towers before, not just cryo and sniper, such as patrol boat bein hated on for its lack of stealth, toxicnator wasnt hated before the big nerf (mentioned above), but after the nerf it was considered "useless" by a lot of ppl other than its boss nerf ability because there were better options, ranger and mine layer were never hated but they are balanced for beginners, so they're automatically worse than other towers (also i only used them in the vid cuz i had 2 tower slots left and no other towers that worked as "bad" towers)
(also r u hatin on me or the towers i used? i cant rlly tell)
The moment flametrooper released, it made a lot of tdx players forget about how op patrol boat and especially toxicnator are.
true, only like the lvl 50s use toxicnator/patrol boat nowadays
Tdx players in my opinion have become so reliant on end-game towers to carry them. Like, back before endless (which I'll just refer to the demo) all you really needed to join a team was laser gunner, and mabye missile trooper. But post-demo people say stuff like "NEED WARSHIP OR GOLDEN JUGG" and they're only lev 50 or smth.
yeah you're right, pre-endless tdx is a completely different game from post endless.. but matchmaking will probably make it much easier for lower lvl players to find a decent team
endless mode was basically a tds overhaul update but went well@@Exynthic
im level 107 or something and i still use some kind towers like operator, ghost, armored factory and toxicnator to beat elits modes and stuff
also whoever said toxicnator is bad simply do not understand how reliable it is to wipe crowds of weak zombies
if you're talking about just doing like expert and stuff then yeah no reason to need gold jug or warship or anything like that, but i mostly see this for endless and endless is you know, an actually hard gamemode? that these towers are MADE FOR?
@@ultra5051ghost is just operator but better, no real reason to use both.
armoured factory is still a good tower after the nerfs, noones shitting on armoured factory (to my knowledge atleast)
toxicnator is mainly used for 10% damage buff but theres just better support
"pAtrol bOat iS bAd!"
The patrol boat that carried my early game start in survival 202 elite:
(If you're wondering im using flametrooper, relic, john, pboat duh, missile trooper and edj for the loadout)
@@SBA2013 yeah some idiots out there like calling it bad for some reason
@@Exynthic Properly bc patrol boat don't have steath detection and they forgot that sniper, laser gunner, and ghost exist
@@yb6934yeah pretty much, as long as u bring any stealth revealing tower, patrol boat will cook everything
It can solo expert and yet people sleep on patrolgoat ☠️
@@yb6934 also because of can only place on water map
I don't think the community is necessarily calling these towers bad or useless, but they're extremely outclassed by other towers. Most high-level players aim to have an optimal loadout, and it's like, why would I ever use a patrol boat when it requires me to take up another slot so I can use a sniper to reveal stealth enemies? rather than use that slot for farms and replace the patrol boat for something like Ghost, Gold Ranger, or even Operator? The same could be said for other towers that are classed as "bad." But sure, even if the community weren't calling these towers outclassed and straight-up said they were useless, a majority of these outclassed towers are useless in terms of people who want to grind the game for hours. An optimal loadout should be able to handle itself on its own with little microing, considering the fact that when you grind, you want the towers that can be the most efficient at their job to make the grind faster and worth your time. This is a strategy game, and unless you're doing an impossible map, I only see Toxicnator being somewhat useful… and for an impossible map, of course, Cryo Ranger is very useful. However apart from these outliers... These towers are useless in the grand scheme of things.
Cool video tho, keep up the grind bro
yeah, ur completely right about the fact that these towers get left behind in the dust just because theres better options that do basically the exact same things, just better. but i have seen ppl complainin before on places like reddit/discord, about these towers being so outclassed they're automatically "bad", which led me to make this video. anyways, thx for the compliment :]
Sniper+patrol boat expert strategy after being forgotten since the endless mode update dropped:
I’m 90% sure everyone is who calls some of these towers bad never played the TRUE beta version of Tdx , b4 endless release. I still remember people wanting laser gunner for expert mode but really operator is still good for it. Calling patrol boat bad is a crime, they just don’t know how to place one stealth detection tower in their loadout, they want a tower to carry them in all aspects, cost efficiency,has all detections, high dps and all that stuff. Then replace all extra tower slots with supports and sub dps cuz ik they are all not dumb enough to at least have a sub dps.
I miss the days when toxicnator was meta
yeah true, its been a while since those times...
Haven’t played tdx in almost a year already. Aren’t these towers considered meta
@@benjo4234 um.... uhh.. its..its different now
ok so, for the revived abominations, id sugest either gettin sniper's flare with termite mines
yeah i should have done that, but when i was recording i literally just forgot about mine layer
This video is really good, the game is like blooket tower of defense but 10x better if looks really fun also epic cyro gameplay
Patrol boat labeled as bad is a crime
@@ZombPlayyz yea some ppl say it is, with the help of stealth revealing stuff its rlly good
They are wrong patrol boat is the best tower for maps with small bodies of water like seriously it’s dps on bottom path is close to juggernaut’s plus it’s splash Damage insane
@@victorpayumo5840 yeah dont worry ik, i only made this vid to show ppl that these towers arent as bad as everyone says
normal ranger is underrated
Eats 3 modes by himself, what a chad
Toxiconator is sooo underrated, he is so strong against bosses
exactly, ppl dont use him as much cuz of flame trooper tho..
I remember getting 16 top paths and one bottom path to kill the eradicator mk 2. Considering that it's an early-mid game crowd control tower it's surprisingly impressive.
You should have gotten some bot path patrol boats, its dps is really good
yeah, it would've helped a lot with splash and dps
Its awsome! just don't start a new cryo era please...
After like 3 hours of testing i can confidently say: this is not possible, the lack of stealth will kill you has snipers stealth reveal doesnt last long enought to be used properly
damn, i thought it could maybe be possible, ig not... what wave did u manage to get to tho?
@Exynthic predator wave, pretty much all towers get oneshot
@@BulbGuyNewton oh damn, preds do deal a ton of damage tho so it makes sense..
@@Exynthic and even if you were to get past that: the muliplier 3 rush isnt possible with those towers
@@BulbGuyNewton i feel like minelayer would do a good job tho wouldnt it?
In other words, this person was still alive so they placed another cryo ranger
yeah thats like 20% of the video lol
all I have to say is that:
tdx is based on your skill and what combination of towers you use and how you use them, not how strong towers have you brought
ur right, but this vid about towers that the community considers "bad", probably because they dont have enough skill to use these towers properly
This probably isn't possible but I'm going to lie to myself and say its possible
yeah if u somehow manage to get past the stealth armored runner rush waves and move on to mk2, he'll probably shred ALL ur towers and kill u
@@Exynthic Hey, I beat it. I used snipers flare consistently and used mine later to deal tons of damage to the eradicator.
@@Exynthic So it is 100% possible. (On Fort Summit that is)
@@Mostly_Rockin_it o cool! yeah i somehow completely forgor to use mine layer and then i died to abominations..
toxicnator isn't "useless" or "bad" but. the 10% dmg buff against bosses can save your ass in endless or anything where the bosses have a unholy amount of hp.
yeah, true. but the whole point of this vid is to kinda disprove that these towers are as bad as everyone says they are, im not saying toxicnator is bad or useless
@@Exynthic ohhhhhhhhh. yeah then i agree. toxicnator actually pretty damn good for support saved my ass on chapter 3 nightmare a lot.
@@slipstream08. yea toxicnator is rlly underrated, but ppl dont use him as much because of flame trooper
How do I drink hot chocolate on mobile
if u have it equipped in ur emote loadout, press the smiley face icon and click the hot chocolate emote
@Exynthic oh that? Well every time I click it it’s doesn’t drink like in the video
@@YuiYui-g3r ohhh then idk, maybe its a mobile glitch
@Exynthic oh dang why tdx doesn’t give mobile players justice like how counteriser accidentally use golden zed and you need to double click to place tower can’t they just add new setting for us mobile players?
@ ye i remember that counteriser vid, but hopefully john starts makin improvements for yall in the mobile community
Ez challenge I beat it easily minelayer is too op
@@susaffects6003 NOOOOOO i forgot to use mine layer..
Patrol boat is not bad
i never said patrol boat was bad, the whole point of this vid is to disprove that the towers in the vid are as bad as everyone says they are
@@ExynthicI hear nobody saying that patrol boat is bad, sniper has just fell off the meta (probably because g jugg helicopter ETC), toxicnator is just mid
@@Cat0987-real ive heard a lot of complainin before cuz patrol has no stealth
@@ExynthicThere is recon drone or Flare, drone, and lg's abillity for that
@@Cat0987-real yeah exactly, some ppl just forget about those
tds so much bettr
god im tired of ppl comparing both the games. if u like tds more, u like it more. if u like tdx more, u like it more. no need to fight over it.
@ not that i like it more, its just better lil bro
@@sandergerhardsen5799leave the subjective opinions aside dude, did you really clicked on this video just to comment this?
your the one who is lil here acting immature commenting a video that has nothing to do with tds @@sandergerhardsen5799
@@sandergerhardsen5799 go play your skibidi toilet game because it's popular that's your guys opinions right popular means better