Ahhh man I've been waiting for this side by side comparison since the silver creek came out. Once again very useful, practical information on both reels for those of us that don't care if a reel can throw a trout magnet. Being fairly new to bfs fishing your videos have definitely made me a better fisherman and I've been at for 30+ years. Thanks.
Thank you for the kind words. I do find that Daiwa did a good job with the recent BFS reels. Also making sure they have some overlap but, areas they specialize in too.
@@HobieWanKenobi yea the gekkabijin is so awesome and sweet but dang the aluminum side plate gets cold the blackhills winters lol. Hey have you ordered directly from roro. I ordered a spool for my gekkabijin with the aramex shipping and the shop tracking app says it was delivered yesterday but I got nothin. Idk if that means they delivered it to usps or what...I'm heart broken to say the least.
I have ordered from Roro direct. I havent had issues getting products from them. I do like to order from Bait Finesse Empire because it is in the USA and also ships a little faster.
Thank you for this very detailed break down. I appreciate the call outs for the specifics of where both reels excel, I cannot wait to get out and use them.
Once again very well done Hobie. Would you mind to introduce to us your very brave camera(wo)man? I know it’s your girl and from my perspective she is an important part of your channel. It’s indeed a sign of love that she goes into such a cold environment to help you grow your channel filming you „in action“. And by the way….thanks again for this very valuable content to both of you! Have a nice weekend and greetings from Germany….
@@HobieWanKenobi 😆 lol the big reveal. You know that's one of my favorite aspects of your videos. You provide a different perspective from chest mount to camera operator and it's unique to your channel. At least for bfs and stream fishing.
I had a custom rod built to very similar specs to the one you’re using here. Love a short handle baitcaster, I miss the good old days when they were the norm. Great video, lots of real world info here…
I say it performs slightly better. I wouldnt buy a Gekka just to put a Roro spool in it. If you do lake fishing and stream fishing and plan on using different line for each, I think it is a good idea.
I got the Roro spool for my Gekkabijin and wow it cast like a dream, casts totally different now. I was out back casting and with a 1/16 oz eurotackle jig head with the anisoptera on I was casting about 70 to 75 feet and with the 3/32 same plastic I was consistently flicking over 90 feet. I got the best distance with the stiffer 6'6 light kuying teton rather than the more flexible UL shimano cardiff rod. I went fishing with it today and it casts nice and flat, flips and pitchs well but the stock spool is definitely better in the wind and for heavier baits. I feel that the Gekkabijin with roro/stock spool combination is the best overall bfs reel known to man....yea I said it.
Exactly my thoughts. For any BFS eel to use the stock spool and a Roro spool, the Gekkabijin is my choice. Both spools compliment each other beautifully. The stock spool like faster rods from my experience too
@@HobieWanKenobi yea I'm so glad I got that reel and unless the new aldebaran is out of this world awesome I'll be happy to sick with the setup I have. I also have the curado bfs for some of that bigger bfs fishing I'll be doing. Man I can't wait for this spring.
@@davidohlert4754 Me either. The new Aldebaran will be better all around for casting range but, that Gekka/Roro combo is probably the best achievable spool 1-2 combo
The UA-cam algorithm must not like you, because you should have 100X more Likes and Followers... You have always had good videos, Great reel comparison 🤜🤛 🍺🎣
Thanks Shane. Most of my content is in a very small niche (BFS Fishing). Growth has been picking up lately. I make videos for people to learn and as a hobby. Likes, Subscribers and all that are just something along the way
Hi mate. Loving your videos, I'm binging your videos. Now, I started baitcasting just two years back, I had a lot of gear. I ended fishing with Shimano, had both Aldebarans and the Conquest. The issue for me is that I had a lot of Daiwa gear before. I actually started baitcasting, after an Okuma Ceymar, with Daiwa Tatula tatula sv tw 103 xsl. Which casted 3-4 grams. With the right rod, of course. Then I got a Roro spool, things changed. But a friend convinced me to go Shimano. Now. In my opinion, they are worse in terms of how they are made, but, I went with the hype. Now, got a Millionaire CT SV 70, I remember why I loved Daiwa. In your opinion between Aldebaran and Silver Creek, which one is better for short distance 2-3 grams casting and, which is better from a mechanical standpoint? Thanks mate.
Hi new sub here, I asked for a curado DfS and Dobyns 700 for christmas. my inter to dfs I did not realyse how many options there are. I am impressed with your abillity flik the rod at that angle, I hope I can learn to be able train my self to do that. the ponds are starting to ice up here in Colorado thanks for the Information you are giving.
Hi and thanks again for another fine video! My Gekka is on the way now and I expect to get it next week. As soon as I'll have open water I'll compare it with Shimano Curado BFS on my 6' 6lb Suzuki Blanks custom rod. It will be nice to see the same comparison report also from your site! Regards, Mike
Gekkabijin is up next for me! I believe that I will get one of the roro fixed inductor spools to throw in the AATW the next time they come in stock instead of purchasing the silver creek. Then I’ll have the best of both worlds without having to purchase all 3.
Would upgrading to the roro spool in the Silver Creek also make it an all around caster like you’re suggesting with the Gekkabijin towards the end? Because the rotor on the spool is the only breaking difference right? Thanks for the helpful content.
Completely agree on the gekkabejin its so smooth, not sure as to why though❓But comparing it to the steez ct sv tw I give the nudge to the gekka. Not really fair because I put some excessive fishing and catching hours on the steez. I’ve not yet pulled the trigger on the silvercreek, I did a bass and bonsai and got the zillion with a bfs spool very good distance reel. I love the old air stream custom but am planning another classic bfs rod build so the thought of the SC is becomming more persistent. Thanks for your video and keep them comming.
@@HobieWanKenobi Yeah odd right pulled the alphas air apart two or three weeks ago to upgrade the line guide worm gear bushings to bearings. I will get a couple aftermarket parts in for the gekka so i’m going to open it up again but if memory serves me correctly there are very few if any differences.
I do find it odd that Daiwa changed from 8.6 in the Alphas AIR TW to 8.5 in these reels... especially with the same frame. isn't the drag clicker because it would be less time and money to design a drag clicker for the 8.6 than to completely redesign the gears.
@@HobieWanKenobi Yeah the clicker would be a lot cheaper for sure but your SC has the same gears right❓ I didn’t think I would notice the .1 speed difference but making the same casts over and over again on my casting spot I do.
The Silver Creek and Gekkabijin have clickers with the 8.5 gears. Speed isn't a real different to the 8.6 but, odd they would change such a tiny amount without a bigger reason.
I do not have that rod. I do know of a few others that have that rod and I can get their feedback on it. What size lures and what size fish will you be targeting?
@@HobieWanKenobi not necessarily a video but I wanted to see how the reel handles a long leader that's wound into the spool on a cast, as that's how I would fish my braid to leader setups if I get one of these reels
You should teach thereeltest what's the actual prupose of a BFS setup. Imagine casting overhead with full force while having a 4lb line and a 1/16oz lure. Very intelligent fishing btw. But that's what you get when you're on the water for no more than 3 hours a day and with less than 20 days of fishing in a year🤷♂
While I prefer the more practical/applied test that Hobie does, Thereeltest testing methodology is not without merit. It gives a demonstration of gear trying to control variables, to allow a compare. all be it a narrow demo and not representative of real world performance. It can however give u an idea if a reel is even worth considering. Most jdm bfs are going to get the job done. Some more capable at some jobs more than others. Besides without someone who has put time in bfs fishing under several real world conditions and use cases there would not be a way for them to put into words the very subjective performance of different bfs gear. Thats where Hobie-Wan Kenobi Shines! P.S I have BFS combos i cant cast over head at all...lol let alone heave ho cast em! ;)
There is no sense contacting The Reel Test as he is not able to handle any objection against his Shimano commercials. Hobie Wan is by far the better angler, more knowledgeable, non-narcissistic and deeply skilled. The Reel Test - have you seen his last video - seems to be lost to narcissism….
@@arnemueller2112 He is annoyed by the fact that the new alphas and zillion have completely buried Shimano lineup. Everyone talks just about these two.
My man! Glad you invest in these new offerings and give us the skinny. Thanks for being analytical and thorough. I use my bfs gear primarily for bass and panfishing on open water. My closest trout stream is 3hrs away so hard to justify a reel that will only shine a few times a year. I do like the gekkabijin a lot but also have a couple alphas air tws. I hate to admit it but Diawa is taking over as my most used bfs reels. I’ll be curious to see how the new aldebaran performs. Like you I’m not crazy about the aesthetics. I should really sell my curado bfs, I just bought it because I was excited for usdm bfs. I like my scorpion and aldebaran better than the curado so it’s in last place of 6 bfs reels.
Hey mate, love your vids and just hoping for a bit of insight. Ive never done bfs style fishing before and really want to get into it, i mainly fish rivers, roughly the size of that you're fishing if not bigger, throwing around 2-5g minnow/hybrid crank lures for trout. Would you recommend the gekkabijin to be able to throw those lighter lures in a river or lake? Or would maybe the alphas be the better pick? I reckon id get the thickened roro spool, but that's if they restock haha. I also wanted to ask, on my spin outfits i use 8lb braid with 6lb leader, if i can find it thin as possible would that effect casting distance with a bfs reel? Thank you so much!!
I love your detailed rod descriptions. I’m looking for a travel rod (2-4 piece) for my curado BFS for lightweight bass lures. Something like the dobyns finesse 700C that breaks down for travel. Any suggestions?
I have a 2 piece Phenix Feather 7'1 L that never leaves my work van. Have pulled in hog Bass from as far north as MI all the way down to FL and every where in between.
@@HobieWanKenobi Finally broke down and ordered the silver creek. Pairing it with a Palms Rera Kumay 5'3 ul. If I enjoy BFS trout fishing and use it a lot then I will be able to justify the Conquest and a Tenryu
Silver Creek. I find the braking of the Gekkabijin not to be great at short range casting. The braking of the Silver Creek is better suited for stream fishing and fiberglass rods
Well. This video is gonna cost me some money...lol Hows that rod? That was a Light action. I wonder how the UL version would perform? I have been considering the stream custom for a dedicated trout setup. Is there a big performance difference between the Gek and the alpha air tw? This seems in line with my anecdotal exp over the years. Fixed rotors seem to like mod action rods while variable braking systems pair better with fast action rods. generally speaking) With different braking systems handling the overlap to varying degrees depending on model. If i remember right the old Daiwa Presso used a older for time braking system. New mag brakes at the time were over braking lighter weights. I plan on using my old Aldebaran bfs limited more this year. It does have the first variable rate braking system. Centrifugal! lol Whole nother ball game. Gonna be a relearning curve. :) Excellent video as always. BFS has come a long wayin the U.S. Way more reels and rods to choose from. My first bfs rod was a hagan 510 mag ul rod from out west. I think it was a walleye rod or something. At the time it was the only bfs spec rod ready to buy under 150 bucks. I went through a dozen us ml rods before biting the bullet and ordering a majorcraft. Good Time to BfS these days! :)
The Alphas AIR TW performs in a more all around function than either of these reels. Better shirt range casting than Gekkabijin, better distance than Silver Creek. Regarding rods, the action of the rod does help certain braking profiles more than others.
Probably not. This is an older rod and not available anymore so, won't generate much interest. I will be using the rod in future videos so, you will get some passive info on it.
@@HobieWanKenobi i thought i saw japan fishing show reporting of a refresh of that line? I assumed thats what u had. I could be wrong. I watch way to much tube in the winter..lol
I have a tripod and also a collapsible shooting stick that can screw into my camera. I think there will always be variables with filming while fishing.
thanks man, mean brakes should hold, one rod i have yamaga blanks 69/B other kyung teton 2-10 g, will test it, hope will not loose lures :D need long cast for lake trouts in some lakes and rivers. but licence will open from 11 November, now we have ban for salmon fishingin rivers.
@@HobieWanKenobi compre with standart baitasting (i cast like with spinning , abu mgx2 and scorpion dc 101 forgiveall my bad castings🤣) in bfs i missing casting tehnique. is it possible make videos for teaching what type of casting tehnique are , in what situation can use it, what better rod is for that, and show on practice video. in Europe casting is new.
The spools are completely interchangeable. I have used the Roro AX24 and also the stock Alphas AIR TW spool in the Gekkabijin. I did not notice any major changes in casting compared to using those same spools in the Alphas AIR TW
@@HobieWanKenobi The Gekkabijin has the side lips on the spool whereas the Alphas Air does not. So my question would be: Due to the line winding wouldn't the line overlap on the Gekka's side lip's vs. the Alpha if you swap spools?
Ahhh man I've been waiting for this side by side comparison since the silver creek came out. Once again very useful, practical information on both reels for those of us that don't care if a reel can throw a trout magnet. Being fairly new to bfs fishing your videos have definitely made me a better fisherman and I've been at for 30+ years. Thanks.
Thank you for the kind words. I do find that Daiwa did a good job with the recent BFS reels. Also making sure they have some overlap but, areas they specialize in too.
@@HobieWanKenobi yea the gekkabijin is so awesome and sweet but dang the aluminum side plate gets cold the blackhills winters lol. Hey have you ordered directly from roro. I ordered a spool for my gekkabijin with the aramex shipping and the shop tracking app says it was delivered yesterday but I got nothin. Idk if that means they delivered it to usps or what...I'm heart broken to say the least.
I have ordered from Roro direct. I havent had issues getting products from them. I do like to order from Bait Finesse Empire because it is in the USA and also ships a little faster.
@@HobieWanKenobi thanks for the shout out. We have another shipment of alphas spools incoming 👍
@@baitfinesseempire Awesome!!! They seem to sell out quicker and quicker
Thank you for this very detailed break down. I appreciate the call outs for the specifics of where both reels excel, I cannot wait to get out and use them.
Glad it was helpful! I was just as curious as everyone else how they perform.
Hard Work on low temperatures….
…Precious content
Thank You
Thank you. Low temperatures do make casting more difficult with light lures. I appreciate the comment.
This video answers a lot of my questions. Thank you so much!!!
No problem 👍. It answered a lot of mine too 🤣.
Love your videos! Hope your channel blows up! Thanks for all your knowledge!
I appreciate that! Thank for the optimism. Share with your friends!!!
Once again very well done Hobie. Would you mind to introduce to us your very brave camera(wo)man? I know it’s your girl and from my perspective she is an important part of your channel. It’s indeed a sign of love that she goes into such a cold environment to help you grow your channel filming you „in action“. And by the way….thanks again for this very valuable content to both of you! Have a nice weekend and greetings from Germany….
My camera operator will be revealed in due time.
@@HobieWanKenobi 😆 lol the big reveal. You know that's one of my favorite aspects of your videos. You provide a different perspective from chest mount to camera operator and it's unique to your channel. At least for bfs and stream fishing.
@@davidohlert4754 I try to make my own way of doing things. Gives people something different
Totally agree with you,both reels are designed for different technical applications,
I was most surprised my the welcome overlap yet, areas each reel shines.
I had a custom rod built to very similar specs to the one you’re using here. Love a short handle baitcaster, I miss the good old days when they were the norm.
Great video, lots of real world info here…
Thanks. Yeah, long handle on a short BFS rod bothers me.
So if you have the Gekk and want to do some stream fishing? Just pop the Roro AX22 in, wouldn’t it perform just like the Silver creek then?
I say it performs slightly better. I wouldnt buy a Gekka just to put a Roro spool in it. If you do lake fishing and stream fishing and plan on using different line for each, I think it is a good idea.
I got the Roro spool for my Gekkabijin and wow it cast like a dream, casts totally different now. I was out back casting and with a 1/16 oz eurotackle jig head with the anisoptera on I was casting about 70 to 75 feet and with the 3/32 same plastic I was consistently flicking over 90 feet. I got the best distance with the stiffer 6'6 light kuying teton rather than the more flexible UL shimano cardiff rod. I went fishing with it today and it casts nice and flat, flips and pitchs well but the stock spool is definitely better in the wind and for heavier baits. I feel that the Gekkabijin with roro/stock spool combination is the best overall bfs reel known to man....yea I said it.
Exactly my thoughts. For any BFS eel to use the stock spool and a Roro spool, the Gekkabijin is my choice. Both spools compliment each other beautifully. The stock spool like faster rods from my experience too
@@HobieWanKenobi yea I'm so glad I got that reel and unless the new aldebaran is out of this world awesome I'll be happy to sick with the setup I have. I also have the curado bfs for some of that bigger bfs fishing I'll be doing. Man I can't wait for this spring.
@@davidohlert4754 Me either. The new Aldebaran will be better all around for casting range but, that Gekka/Roro combo is probably the best achievable spool 1-2 combo
Thanks for your support, we will keep to make great Roro X Spool.
The UA-cam algorithm must not like you, because you should have 100X more Likes and Followers... You have always had good videos, Great reel comparison 🤜🤛 🍺🎣
Thanks Shane. Most of my content is in a very small niche (BFS Fishing). Growth has been picking up lately. I make videos for people to learn and as a hobby. Likes, Subscribers and all that are just something along the way
@@HobieWanKenobi Yes, but it's growing.
@@ShaneJMcNair Sure is.
@@HobieWanKenobi 🤜🤛
The difference between the two reels is that you will be dealing with more backlashes with the Gekkabijin!
😂... potentially. The Gekkabijin is better for distance casting though
Hi mate. Loving your videos, I'm binging your videos.
Now, I started baitcasting just two years back, I had a lot of gear. I ended fishing with Shimano, had both Aldebarans and the Conquest. The issue for me is that I had a lot of Daiwa gear before. I actually started baitcasting, after an Okuma Ceymar, with Daiwa Tatula tatula sv tw 103 xsl. Which casted 3-4 grams. With the right rod, of course. Then I got a Roro spool, things changed. But a friend convinced me to go Shimano. Now. In my opinion, they are worse in terms of how they are made, but, I went with the hype.
Now, got a Millionaire CT SV 70, I remember why I loved Daiwa.
In your opinion between Aldebaran and Silver Creek, which one is better for short distance 2-3 grams casting and, which is better from a mechanical standpoint?
Thanks mate.
Silver Creek is better overall for those weight short range due to the braking system. I also feel Daiwa has a better sounding drag clicker.
Hi new sub here, I asked for a curado DfS and Dobyns 700 for christmas. my inter to dfs I did not realyse how many options there are. I am impressed with your abillity flik the rod at that angle, I hope I can learn to be able train my self to do that. the ponds are starting to ice up here in Colorado thanks for the Information you are giving.
There are many options for BFS tackle. The rod/reel you asked Santa Claus for is a really nice setup for finesse bass fishing.
Excellent video, informative and
Helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi and thanks again for another fine video! My Gekka is on the way now and I expect to get it next week. As soon as I'll have open water I'll compare it with Shimano Curado BFS on my 6' 6lb Suzuki Blanks custom rod. It will be nice to see the same comparison report also from your site! Regards, Mike
I plan on getting the Gekkabijin head to head with the Conquest. I need to be selective with my videos due to weather
Gekkabijin is up next for me! I believe that I will get one of the roro fixed inductor spools to throw in the AATW the next time they come in stock instead of purchasing the silver creek. Then I’ll have the best of both worlds without having to purchase all 3.
That's a good idea!!! The Gekkabijin loves the Roro spool too
Hobie where did you get your Diawa handle and star drag ?for the Ghecko
From Digitaka.com
Would upgrading to the roro spool in the Silver Creek also make it an all around caster like you’re suggesting with the Gekkabijin towards the end? Because the rotor on the spool is the only breaking difference right? Thanks for the helpful content.
Completely agree on the gekkabejin its so smooth, not sure as to why though❓But comparing it to the steez ct sv tw I give the nudge to the gekka. Not really fair because I put some excessive fishing and catching hours on the steez. I’ve not yet pulled the trigger on the silvercreek, I did a bass and bonsai and got the zillion with a bfs spool very good distance reel. I love the old air stream custom but am planning another classic bfs rod build so the thought of the SC is becomming more persistent. Thanks for your video and keep them comming.
No problem. My Gekkabijin is incredibly smooth. weird because I do not think there can be much, if any, difference internally with these two reels.
@@HobieWanKenobi
Yeah odd right pulled the alphas air apart two or three weeks ago to upgrade the line guide worm gear bushings to bearings. I will get a couple aftermarket parts in for the gekka so i’m going to open it up again but if memory serves me correctly there are very few if any differences.
I do find it odd that Daiwa changed from 8.6 in the Alphas AIR TW to 8.5 in these reels... especially with the same frame. isn't the drag clicker because it would be less time and money to design a drag clicker for the 8.6 than to completely redesign the gears.
@@HobieWanKenobi
Yeah the clicker would be a lot cheaper for sure but your SC has the same gears right❓ I didn’t think I would notice the .1 speed difference but making the same casts over and over again on my casting spot I do.
The Silver Creek and Gekkabijin have clickers with the 8.5 gears. Speed isn't a real different to the 8.6 but, odd they would change such a tiny amount without a bigger reason.
Great content. Difference in air stream custom and silver creek? What’s your preference?
They are similar but, the new Stream Custom (this reel) is all around better. Both have similar spools but, the Silver Creek is better for sure
Are you tying the PE line directly to the spool on these bfs spools ? If so can you post a video on how you are doing it. Thanks Jeff
I am tying direct to the spool. I will make a video covering it
Can u do a review on the kuying Teton 5’2” two piece super ultra light rod.
I do not have that rod. I do know of a few others that have that rod and I can get their feedback on it. What size lures and what size fish will you be targeting?
Good stuff! How much 5lb fluoro would the gekka hold? I'm still waiting for that 15ft fluoro leader on the gekka video :)
I am not sure. My guess would be around 65m or so.
15ft FC leader on Gekkabijin video?
@@HobieWanKenobi not necessarily a video but I wanted to see how the reel handles a long leader that's wound into the spool on a cast, as that's how I would fish my braid to leader setups if I get one of these reels
Gotcha. yeah, the only issue would be the leader knot passing the line guide when being wound up.
You should teach thereeltest what's the actual prupose of a BFS setup. Imagine casting overhead with full force while having a 4lb line and a 1/16oz lure. Very intelligent fishing btw. But that's what you get when you're on the water for no more than 3 hours a day and with less than 20 days of fishing in a year🤷♂
People can use fishing tackle for whatever they want. I prefer to use mine to catch fish 😂
While I prefer the more practical/applied test that Hobie does, Thereeltest testing methodology is not without merit. It gives a demonstration of gear trying to control variables, to allow a compare. all be it a narrow demo and not representative of real world performance. It can however give u an idea if a reel is even worth considering.
Most jdm bfs are going to get the job done. Some more capable at some jobs more than others.
Besides without someone who has put time in bfs fishing under several real world conditions and use cases there would not be a way for them to put into words the very subjective performance of different bfs gear. Thats where Hobie-Wan Kenobi Shines!
P.S I have BFS combos i cant cast over head at all...lol let alone heave ho cast em! ;)
Everyone makes different styles of content. Gives us viewers a wide range of information to be entertained or assist with making a shopping decision.
There is no sense contacting The Reel Test as he is not able to handle any objection against his Shimano commercials. Hobie Wan is by far the better angler, more knowledgeable, non-narcissistic and deeply skilled. The Reel Test - have you seen his last video - seems to be lost to narcissism….
@@arnemueller2112 He is annoyed by the fact that the new alphas and zillion have completely buried Shimano lineup. Everyone talks just about these two.
Are you excited for the Aldebaran BFS XG 22? I just ordered a couple from Japan.
I am excited for it. Looks like a lot of upgrades and well thought out features. Idk about the square front though 😂
My man! Glad you invest in these new offerings and give us the skinny. Thanks for being analytical and thorough. I use my bfs gear primarily for bass and panfishing on open water. My closest trout stream is 3hrs away so hard to justify a reel that will only shine a few times a year. I do like the gekkabijin a lot but also have a couple alphas air tws. I hate to admit it but Diawa is taking over as my most used bfs reels. I’ll be curious to see how the new aldebaran performs. Like you I’m not crazy about the aesthetics. I should really sell my curado bfs, I just bought it because I was excited for usdm bfs. I like my scorpion and aldebaran better than the curado so it’s in last place of 6 bfs reels.
I like the Curado BFS. I agree with Daiwa really taking the BFS market over. Indo have high hopes for the new Aldebaran BFS though.
Hey mate, love your vids and just hoping for a bit of insight. Ive never done bfs style fishing before and really want to get into it, i mainly fish rivers, roughly the size of that you're fishing if not bigger, throwing around 2-5g minnow/hybrid crank lures for trout. Would you recommend the gekkabijin to be able to throw those lighter lures in a river or lake? Or would maybe the alphas be the better pick? I reckon id get the thickened roro spool, but that's if they restock haha. I also wanted to ask, on my spin outfits i use 8lb braid with 6lb leader, if i can find it thin as possible would that effect casting distance with a bfs reel?
Thank you so much!!
Gekkabijin will be great for the way you fish.
www.digitaka.com/items/4/4/2/GekkaBijin+AIR+TW+PE
Legend, thank you so much! Always looking forward to more vids
@@maintrain6114 More video will be coming soon!
TQ sir for your info
You are very welcome!!!
I love your detailed rod descriptions. I’m looking for a travel rod (2-4 piece) for my curado BFS for lightweight bass lures. Something like the dobyns finesse 700C that breaks down for travel. Any suggestions?
Check out Bait Finesse Empire. They are stocking different rods all the time and I saw a few travel options.
I have a 2 piece Phenix Feather 7'1 L that never leaves my work van. Have pulled in hog Bass from as far north as MI all the way down to FL and every where in between.
Thanks for the video. Final question. Better all around silver creek or conquest BFS?
Hmm...that's tough. Conquest with heavier lures. Silver Creek if casting 3.5gr or less.
@@HobieWanKenobi Finally broke down and ordered the silver creek. Pairing it with a Palms Rera Kumay 5'3 ul. If I enjoy BFS trout fishing and use it a lot then I will be able to justify the Conquest and a Tenryu
@@dontdoxmebro1780 Silver Creek is awesome. I bet you will love BFS trout fishing.
Which will be better for crankbait fishing for perch?
It's a toss up. Maybe the Gekkabijin due to it's longer casting ability.
Have you ever tried the Doyo liger 30 reel ?
I have. it tried that reel. How is it?
Is the gekkabijin with the roro spool as good as the silver creek for short range casting?
Slightly better I would say
@@HobieWanKenobiGekka vs SS Air vs Alde?
What reel would be better on a fiberglass 4ft2 rod
Silver Creek. I find the braking of the Gekkabijin not to be great at short range casting. The braking of the Silver Creek is better suited for stream fishing and fiberglass rods
Well. This video is gonna cost me some money...lol
Hows that rod? That was a Light action. I wonder how the UL version would perform?
I have been considering the stream custom for a dedicated trout setup.
Is there a big performance difference between the Gek and the alpha air tw?
This seems in line with my anecdotal exp over the years. Fixed rotors seem to like mod action rods while variable braking systems pair better with fast action rods. generally speaking) With different braking systems handling the overlap to varying degrees depending on model. If i remember right the old Daiwa Presso used a older for time braking system. New mag brakes at the time were over braking lighter weights.
I plan on using my old Aldebaran bfs limited more this year. It does have the first variable rate braking system. Centrifugal! lol Whole nother ball game. Gonna be a relearning curve. :)
Excellent video as always. BFS has come a long wayin the U.S. Way more reels and rods to choose from. My first bfs rod was a hagan 510 mag ul rod from out west. I think it was a walleye rod or something. At the time it was the only bfs spec rod ready to buy under 150 bucks. I went through a dozen us ml rods before biting the bullet and ordering a majorcraft.
Good Time to BfS these days! :)
The Alphas AIR TW performs in a more all around function than either of these reels. Better shirt range casting than Gekkabijin, better distance than Silver Creek.
Regarding rods, the action of the rod does help certain braking profiles more than others.
@@HobieWanKenobi Do You plan on reviewing the that rod line also?
Probably not. This is an older rod and not available anymore so, won't generate much interest. I will be using the rod in future videos so, you will get some passive info on it.
@@HobieWanKenobi i thought i saw japan fishing show reporting of a refresh of that line? I assumed thats what u had. I could be wrong. I watch way to much tube in the winter..lol
They have some Silver Creek rods that are newer but, not with AGS that I have seen. I honestly use this rod more for bluegill than for trout.
Great comparison and content, but Man! if I send you a monopod, would you use it?
I have a tripod and also a collapsible shooting stick that can screw into my camera. I think there will always be variables with filming while fishing.
wanted to ask your opinion, what is comfortable max casting weight for gekkabijin and aldebaran 22 .
Both reels have casted 1/4oz for me just fine. Could cast heavier but, line capacity would be an issue.
thanks man, mean brakes should hold, one rod i have yamaga blanks 69/B other kyung teton 2-10 g, will test it, hope will not loose lures :D need long cast for lake trouts in some lakes and rivers. but licence will open from 11 November, now we have ban for salmon fishingin rivers.
@@HobieWanKenobi compre with standart baitasting (i cast like with spinning , abu mgx2 and scorpion dc 101 forgiveall my bad castings🤣) in bfs i missing casting tehnique. is it possible make videos for teaching what type of casting tehnique are , in what situation can use it, what better rod is for that, and show on practice video. in Europe casting is new.
@@oslo7457 I have a few videos covering techniques
Nice this video is hot shit ! Thanks Hobie-Wan Kenobi !
You are welcome. I was excited to see the difference between these reels as much as everyone watching.
Do the spools swap? And would braking characteristics stay with the spool or different magnets
The spools are completely interchangeable. I have used the Roro AX24 and also the stock Alphas AIR TW spool in the Gekkabijin. I did not notice any major changes in casting compared to using those same spools in the Alphas AIR TW
@@HobieWanKenobi you rock! Thank you
No problem!!!
@@HobieWanKenobi The Gekkabijin has the side lips on the spool whereas the Alphas Air does not. So my question would be: Due to the line winding wouldn't the line overlap on the Gekka's side lip's vs. the Alpha if you swap spools?
@@philipfalco7304 No. I have not had any issues using Alphas spool in Gekkabijin and vice versa
Merji 🔥
Too bad the weather was not 🔥.
@@HobieWanKenobi koe ki ngomong opo to pakdhe, aku radong 😌
I think translation is creating confusion.
@@HobieWanKenobi saya pikir tak nabung dulu bapak, butuh 6 bulan untuk meminang gekkabijin 😌