I was about the same age as this kid (15) back in '85 when i started doing drop ceilings for my dad so this video really makes me smile. Props to you for teaching the next generation of tradesmen this invaluable skill.
What i don't understand is...why is there a requirement for heavy gauge wire at perimeter cross bars? The physics of the application doesn't make sense in seismic or structural engineering...as the tile will be less than 1 lb. Cut the wall tab short to slot into the level track. Been dealing with too many installs where the thick wire prevents panel removal. Old codes should be challenged. I hate drop ceilings esp where the installers hide short cuts. Seems like the kid is doing OK...just reading info off the wall with a few weeks on the job. Probably the contractor's kid learning the business.
H M I agree totally with you. I repaired ceilings after the 89 quake in SF and seismic posts did more harm than good, I thinks that's a code that needs to be reevaluated also. Good catch on the reading off the wall. This video is more for him, if you can't teach it you don't fully know it. Thanks for the comment.
I've been doing grid for 20years and if another carpenter did grid like this or tied a wire like this he would be all time clean up person this is a joke...amatuer hour
Years of experience is no gauge of skill. I know workers that have been doing "grid" for twenty years and that's all they can figure out how to do, that's why they have been doing "grid" for so long. I'm glad you can tie a wire faster and better, good for you! This video is to show how to make a California code compliant wire tie nothing more. Where does the video mention "doing grid". Keep making awesome comments, I'm sure you're going to excel. Good luck in the rest of your career.
Ernie Johnson I get the (code) reasoning why drop ceilings are used commercially, but why hasnt the trade come up with a better standard? This stuff is 50 years old and hasnt improved much for easier end-user care or preventive maintenance to mechanical equipment. Every tile I've encountered has been blocked by suspension twists or zero clearance above. I even remove those hold down clips because no one has ever had tile lift in a large commercial plenum.
In California you need perimeter wires 8 inches or bigger and also light wires and also seismic post anything over a thousand square feet but depending on the parts of California some people require seismic posts 144 square feet or bigger and also requires seismic clips and Expansion Joints now anything bigger than 2500 ft
Why on earth would you tie a wire on a perimeter tee? Seems to me it's doing nothing more than what the angle is already doing. You need to hang the mains not the tees. I mean unless you know something I don't this makes no sense to me. Also that's a whole lot of excess wire and its twisted too loose like that, I twist em tight and close to the wire and leave no excess.
Props to the kid for sure . Is the wire a little loose ? Yea a bit . I’d prob be cursing dropping tile with em tied like that but props for startin em young . These non Cali installers have no idea how good they have it . Perimeter wires on anything over 8”. Seismic’s every 12’. And don’t get me started on hospitals and schools. Yikes. Imagine how much footage we could get up with the old wire every 4’ on the mains haha. Nice vid.
Im gonna guess because the end peices are the easiest to fall out and if earthquake hit less pieces would fall on people's heads. That's the only thing i could think of tho. Fu@% California tho lmaoo 😂😭
Man, that's crazy. What a waste of time and money. Getting the panels in and out with those thick wires at every cross T would be a bitch, too. California must be a terrible place to do construction.
I was about the same age as this kid (15) back in '85 when i started doing drop ceilings for my dad so this video really makes me smile. Props to you for teaching the next generation of tradesmen this invaluable skill.
He is literally better at teaching this technique than any journeyman i have ever had to work with.
Does the little dude walk stilts?? Keep at it bud!!
Not really supposed to use stilts in CA., but he is going to learn how to use them. He only gets to work summers. Thanks for the cool comment!
What i don't understand is...why is there a requirement for heavy gauge wire at perimeter cross bars? The physics of the application doesn't make sense in seismic or structural engineering...as the tile will be less than 1 lb. Cut the wall tab short to slot into the level track.
Been dealing with too many installs where the thick wire prevents panel removal. Old codes should be challenged.
I hate drop ceilings esp where the installers hide short cuts.
Seems like the kid is doing OK...just reading info off the wall with a few weeks on the job. Probably the contractor's kid learning the business.
H M I agree totally with you. I repaired ceilings after the 89 quake in SF and seismic posts did more harm than good, I thinks that's a code that needs to be reevaluated also. Good catch on the reading off the wall. This video is more for him, if you can't teach it you don't fully know it. Thanks for the comment.
I've been doing grid for 20years and if another carpenter did grid like this or tied a wire like this he would be all time clean up person this is a joke...amatuer hour
Years of experience is no gauge of skill. I know workers that have been doing "grid" for twenty years and that's all they can figure out how to do, that's why they have been doing "grid" for so long. I'm glad you can tie a wire faster and better, good for you! This video is to show how to make a California code compliant wire tie nothing more. Where does the video mention "doing grid". Keep making awesome comments, I'm sure you're going to excel. Good luck in the rest of your career.
Ernie Johnson
I get the (code) reasoning why drop ceilings are used commercially, but why hasnt the trade come up with a better standard? This stuff is 50 years old and hasnt improved much for easier end-user care or preventive maintenance to mechanical equipment.
Every tile I've encountered has been blocked by suspension twists or zero clearance above. I even remove those hold down clips because no one has ever had tile lift in a large commercial plenum.
First off you don’t tie your wires off to your tees....code says only mains
Ya I've been an installer for 17 years and I couldn't agree more
@@andrewlavigne2572 CA code, other states have it easy
Why you need wires? on those short T runners
CA seismic code. Any cross tees or mains over 8" have to be supported by a 12 ga wire.
What a load of bollocks
Rarely put wires on tees , only mains . I see the pipe above the main but still could of figured something to get mains
In California you need perimeter wires 8 inches or bigger and also light wires and also seismic post anything over a thousand square feet but depending on the parts of California some people require seismic posts 144 square feet or bigger and also requires seismic clips and Expansion Joints now anything bigger than 2500 ft
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Why on earth would you tie a wire on a perimeter tee? Seems to me it's doing nothing more than what the angle is already doing. You need to hang the mains not the tees. I mean unless you know something I don't this makes no sense to me. Also that's a whole lot of excess wire and its twisted too loose like that, I twist em tight and close to the wire and leave no excess.
California seismic code. Any tee over eight inches has to have a wire
Props to the kid for sure . Is the wire a little loose ? Yea a bit . I’d prob be cursing dropping tile with em tied like that but props for startin em young . These non Cali installers have no idea how good they have it . Perimeter wires on anything over 8”. Seismic’s every 12’. And don’t get me started on hospitals and schools. Yikes. Imagine how much footage we could get up with the old wire every 4’ on the mains haha. Nice vid.
Im gonna guess because the end peices are the easiest to fall out and if earthquake hit less pieces would fall on people's heads. That's the only thing i could think of tho. Fu@% California tho lmaoo 😂😭
@@slippy11ful would think they would have some kind of clip .
California Code my man
Man, that's crazy. What a waste of time and money. Getting the panels in and out with those thick wires at every cross T would be a bitch, too. California must be a terrible place to do construction.
Yep a bit over kill.
Somebody teach him wrong this young kid never you tide wire in the crossT. The wires go in the main ok 👎👎👎👎
This is for CA code. You have to have a wire on all cross tees longer than eight inches.
Did you even read the title?
@@jasoncherene6801 yea right in 5"f hall way
You don't read the title and don't read the reply any tees longer than 8 inches doesn't matter if it is a 45 inch wide hallway
Lol haha. California Code my man
Putting wires on perimeter tees is bullshit.