Mucus in the snails/slugs slime protected it from the traps digestive acid like the mucus membrane lining your stomach protects you from your own stomach acid.
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 No it was actually good. I subscribed. I’ve just never watched anything like this so have no idea why the algorithm decided I needed to see it.
😂😂😂 Was thinking the same a couple of days ago. Random wrestling and crime docs came up. Did I watch them? Back into the wrestling like when I was 10yrs old and nicknamed Little Ms Undertaker ...I also read a lot of mystery crime novels. Now in my forties and wondering how UA-cam knew to take me back there....Maybe we are living in a giant simulation...🤔...That's too much thinking for one day...off to take a well earned " in my forties nap' Getting off the couch is going to require a lot of energy so I might just have a crispy snack as well 🙂
I used to, too... I haven't had one in a while but I do garden now so maybe I should try again. I think it might have a lot to do with how they're put in tiny pots and never transplanted, and people tend to forget the "plant" part of them. That, and I think we all triggered some of the traps for fun, and that's terrible for them.
My Mom and I literally could never get one to survive. Then someone we knew that's been where they grow naturally said they stay damp and very wet constantly. Lots of light too. And to take them out of their container but not the potted part. So, we've got water bowls they set in constantly and keeps them very moist. We've set them in our bathroom window that gets sun for most of the day and that room stays humid and warm constantly. It's never air cooled with AC ECT. We keep the leaves and traps that are turning brown after eating and start to die plucked out. These fly traps are thriving for months on end now, when used to they'd die in a month or so. Once the water starts to run low in the water dish the pot sits in refill and wala. Hope this helps you as much as it did us. ❤
Make sure you use ONLY distilled water since tap water or any other water for that matter contains minerals and particles which will dry and burn the entire plant down to the root and if you are replanting you must use special carnivorous plant soil
*Plant:* Jesus Christ! I was taking my time, eating my food and here this guy just cuts me off! Foster parents SUCK! Take me back to the wild where I can be free!
Ty 🙏 I try. Sometimes it takes me a bit. But I'm grateful for my followers and those that took the time to comment. Also I want to answer all the questions. Hopefully it gives people confidence to grow these absolutely amazing plants. Thank again for this comment!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🫡🫡
@@papayer but will that reduce the efficiency of PowerSlugs, and we will need more to overclock each machine? I don't like the low output of Yellow PowerSlugs either but Purple are too rare to rely on them alone...
The reason it wasn't digested was because the slug has inhibitors in its slime to protect it from the digestive enzymes and the slime also forced alot of the fluid out of the trap causing it to burn itself. At least that's my theory 🤷♂️
Slugs can secrete a protective coating over themselves though... Right? I could be wrong but thought I saw a slug do this to protect itself from ants. Not too durable, but it could probably be another explanation as to why it's taken longer than expected. Please though, if I'm mistaken then I would like to be corrected.
No it has to do with the fact slugs and snails have mucas membranes covering their entire body. The digestive juices didnt even touch the slug. It just dissolved the mucas. It also leaked juices because of the mucas.
A piece of meat or another small animal would have been far more digested. The plant probably barely got any nutrients from the slug due to its mucus/slime protecting the body from the digestive juices.
Even if it did, it would open AFTER IT'S DONE like you said, and the whole point was to see the process partway through... what is with these silly questions lol
Not only the slug mucus is protective but as being an animal that relies on mucus -like stuff, it might also have a different resistance to acids compared to insects
No. How would it? WHY would it? A few critters out there engage in suicidal behavior, usually for the sake of their offspring, but how would that happen here? Just wondering though, what made you think of that?
you know, I've been gardening for years with very great success. hardly ever have plants die. but, I never sanitized the scissors 😂 now I just feel dumb. I had a venus fly trap, and it died, but i think it was more due to the watering / sunlight aspect, or it not going dormant properly.
Definitely more likely to be one of those issues. It's not a guarantee you will give a plant a systemic issue. But it's wayy easier to prevent a problem, than it is to fix a problem.
Fun fact: you would think that they would be found in the rainforest or somewhere exotic, but in the wild, they are native only to North and South Carolina.
Not to be a stickler but unless your putting your scissors in an oven and sterilizing it like surgery equipment is sterilized the scissors are not sterilized, just aseptic or disinfected
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 I did use carnivorous friendly soil with no fertilizer and I was very careful replanting but it's my first flytrap and I should have done a little more research. It was a gift but I'm hoping it's okay. Love these plants.
It stopped consuming the slug when the acids leaking caused enough damage to signal the plant to shut down secretions. Artificial light doesnt cause incomplete digestion.
It's called "enjoying the food". I don't know anything about that because I inhale whatever I eat. But, rumors say the slower you eat and digest the food, the better the distribution of nutrients.
Does artificial light affect how quickly they digest food? I have mine under a artificial lamp and it usually takes a few days to reopen. My trap eats mostly house flys and fruit flys. I keep it in the kitchen.
I bet it's actually less digested than you thought because of the slugs mucus layer. Your own stomach would digest itself without a similar mucus layer.
I’ve bought three of these and couldn’t get them to close on anything. I will say though. Are some traps stronger than others? Cause if that’s the dude feeding the whole plant I think I’d like to keep that one! But, this is pretty cool for educational purposes!
I had one when I was younger and people kept telling me, if I couldn't find any flies to put in the plant, I could put a little piece of bologna in it. Well, I did and needless to say, the bologna ended killing the plant. 😞😢
Growers choice 4200k cmh bulbs are almost an identical match to sunlight, including uv and ir. I've noticed huge plant health increases from switching to cmh from led.
If you're saying the reason why your plant is a consuming as much as you think it should be consuming is because of artificial light then get a more powerful light but I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why
Slugs and Snails are actually pretty adept at surviving Flytraps. Their mucus acts as a protective layer just like how the mucus in our stomach lining protects our stomach from the digestive acid and can even allow them to escape between the teeth of the trap. Not the best specimen for this video 😁
As long as your artificial light is (uva/uvb) adequate for the plant, that shouldn’t be the issue. I think it’s more likely that the digestion was slowed down due to energy shifting towards new growth. That and you mentioned the digestive fluids leaking and burning the plant. Any cut, burn etc means the plant will also have to shift some of its energy to heal. Also mucous is a great defensive layer and slugs are lathered in it:)
Wouldn’t you want to wear a glove for this curious experiment? There are interesting fluids inside. Your fingers can be poked/ cut open during the process and weird bacteria can get into your open wound, and most of the time, this baby eats and digest pretty interesting insects 🐞 🐜 🕷️ 🦗🦟🪳🪲🪰… 🤮 Hardly any of them sterilized, especially not after being in “ flower- stomach “ liquid…🧐
Hey, to answer it, even if I'm not the UA-camr, the traps are leafs and every plant have 5 to 6 leafs. In the short, he cut just one leaf so the plant is just fine.
Most people don't realize that the traps only open and close about 5 to 7 times before they die, so they play with the traps, just to see the closing mechanism.
I grew up in North Carolina and didn't know that these were from here for the first 16 years of my life. 100% assumed they were from the Amazon Forest or something.
Mucus in the snails/slugs slime protected it from the traps digestive acid like the mucus membrane lining your stomach protects you from your own stomach acid.
cool
Ty for this insight
No wonder throwing up is painful
Also snails/slugs membranes are really strong. Like extremely strong. Have you ever tried to crush a naked snails between your fingers? You can't...
@williebrort no that sounds gross af
Slug: "thanks bro"
*Crawls away*
Lol. You should 💯 watch my newest Short I just posted. Your comment is highly relevant.
Stupid
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 ua-cam.com/users/shortsrMb-RiDmCI4?si=B1RcEJjhdxWxwpiz
This comment made me think it was alive
Hey so can these plants survive until it become summer?@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940
Imagine someone cuts open ur stomach to see what your digesting food looks like 💀
A little different, considering it grows back.
thats kinda wild@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940
It's not the same thing with Venus fly traps. As long as you don't remove all of them lol
Plus, iirc each trap is single use.
Unit 731 type shit
The slug has very high special defense and hp. Naturally, the slug isn't going to be as decomposed vs smaller insects.
Makes sense.
It definitely rand assault vest and spec’ed it’s EVs and IVs well
It also seems to resist grass or poison attacks, and might even have a Covert Cloak on it
Clearly, being a normal poison type, it resists grass type, DUH!
Omg. So if you eat escargot....oh no way.
UA-cam algorithm: “he’ll watch anything at this point”
😂 couldn't have been that bad.
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 No it was actually good. I subscribed. I’ve just never watched anything like this so have no idea why the algorithm decided I needed to see it.
😂😂😂 Was thinking the same a couple of days ago. Random wrestling and crime docs came up. Did I watch them? Back into the wrestling like when I was 10yrs old and nicknamed Little Ms Undertaker ...I also read a lot of mystery crime novels. Now in my forties and wondering how UA-cam knew to take me back there....Maybe we are living in a giant simulation...🤔...That's too much thinking for one day...off to take a well earned " in my forties nap' Getting off the couch is going to require a lot of energy so I might just have a crispy snack as well 🙂
It's actually taken me some very careful fine tuning to get my algorithm to recommend this kind of content over the deluge of garbage on UA-cam
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 Not bad but just very very random
"Bro, I'm not a fly. I'm not a fly!"
😂😂
This needs more likes lol... I choked on my drink xd
Bro thinks that slug is jelly💀
@@MymyGaming23 You saying jelly reminds me of when a flytrap had slme jelly beans.
When my mom says im a slow eater:
😂
venus fly trap eating a slug
@@ConnorShockey-v4z Are you implying you're thinking what I'm thing?
Don't choke
I don't even know how I ended up with these videos in my feed, but now I'm considering getting some fly traps 😂
I don't mean to be a bad influence......but..... GET SOME PLANTS A.S.A.P 😂
Trader Joe's gets them once in a while
Lmfao. I just ordered mine. Hahaha
Same.
@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 what species is that exactly?
I have the worst luck keeping these plants alive, your plants on the other hand are just gorgeous! ❤
I used to, too... I haven't had one in a while but I do garden now so maybe I should try again. I think it might have a lot to do with how they're put in tiny pots and never transplanted, and people tend to forget the "plant" part of them. That, and I think we all triggered some of the traps for fun, and that's terrible for them.
My Mom and I literally could never get one to survive. Then someone we knew that's been where they grow naturally said they stay damp and very wet constantly. Lots of light too. And to take them out of their container but not the potted part.
So, we've got water bowls they set in constantly and keeps them very moist. We've set them in our bathroom window that gets sun for most of the day and that room stays humid and warm constantly. It's never air cooled with AC ECT.
We keep the leaves and traps that are turning brown after eating and start to die plucked out. These fly traps are thriving for months on end now, when used to they'd die in a month or so.
Once the water starts to run low in the water dish the pot sits in refill and wala.
Hope this helps you as much as it did us.
❤
Make sure you use ONLY distilled water since tap water or any other water for that matter contains minerals and particles which will dry and burn the entire plant down to the root and if you are replanting you must use special carnivorous plant soil
@@tiffanyrich1829”wala” 😂 voilà
*Plant:* Jesus Christ! I was taking my time, eating my food and here this guy just cuts me off! Foster parents SUCK! Take me back to the wild where I can be free!
The plant said all that huh 😂
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940No wonder the plant complained that you never listen
@@denilla8034 no he saved the plant
Stop swearing God's name in vain. He can hold anyone accountable for it later.
Stop swearing God's name in vain. He can hold anyone accountable for it later.
So did we all just randomly start getting Venus fly trap videos in our feeds💀
Yep
I liked when everyone suddenly got Rambo clips for Christmas
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yea
@@freezabeatzz9189no wonder with your profile picture
Venus flytrap: HEY I WASN'T DONE EATING THAT😢😭
😂😂😂😂
😅 sorry buddy
😅
I just noticed this guy has responded to the majority of the comments. Good on you dude👍
Ty 🙏 I try. Sometimes it takes me a bit. But I'm grateful for my followers and those that took the time to comment. Also I want to answer all the questions. Hopefully it gives people confidence to grow these absolutely amazing plants. Thank again for this comment!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🫡🫡
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940you’re awesome x I just subbed!!!!
Maybe the slime of the slug was nerfing the digestive enzymes to some degree?
Very possible.
Yes
valve pls nerf slug slime
@@papayer but will that reduce the efficiency of PowerSlugs, and we will need more to overclock each machine? I don't like the low output of Yellow PowerSlugs either but Purple are too rare to rely on them alone...
Maybe the mucus protects the slug similar to mucus inside the stomach. Just a theory
I think from the comments that your hypothesis is correct
Never in my life did I think I would see melted slug organs.
The reason it wasn't digested was because the slug has inhibitors in its slime to protect it from the digestive enzymes and the slime also forced alot of the fluid out of the trap causing it to burn itself. At least that's my theory 🤷♂️
Best theory so far.☝🏻
It’s because of the slug defense mechanism.
😳
Underated channel subscibed
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Slugs can secrete a protective coating over themselves though... Right? I could be wrong but thought I saw a slug do this to protect itself from ants. Not too durable, but it could probably be another explanation as to why it's taken longer than expected. Please though, if I'm mistaken then I would like to be corrected.
UV isn't required for plant growth, but they do respond slightly to different colors in different growth phases
I always sterilise my cutters when cutting plants.
Boiling my lawnmower is a bit of a hassle.
In the air(in a jar, for instance) a dead slug will decompose to mostly water in about a week.
i bought one yesterday and plan to keep it under a light indoors with the rest of my bonsai trees. will this effect the plant?
Definitely a couple different variables that matter. But look into dormancy for sure.
That was pretty gross but also it was cool a the same time😮
☯️
Just my bad luck and bad timing to just sit down for breakfast!
I want to get Venus fly traps for my house but I was wondering do you need like a green house or will it survive inside.
It’s very amazing that with time something like a slug can be melted if it stays in the plant’s trap for a long to
No it has to do with the fact slugs and snails have mucas membranes covering their entire body. The digestive juices didnt even touch the slug. It just dissolved the mucas. It also leaked juices because of the mucas.
The mucus layer on the slug probably also effected the digestion rate
Nope
It’s because the tissue of the slug is incredibly strong compared to an insect.
Salt on the other hand destroys slug tissue
Salt dehydrated slugs.
Imagine a giant man eating plant. That'll be so dope.
One day 🤞
Check out a movie called little shop of horrors
Feed me, Seymore
A Broadway musical and a movie were made about that exact thing.
Italian plumbers would disagree
A piece of meat or another small animal would have been far more digested. The plant probably barely got any nutrients from the slug due to its mucus/slime protecting the body from the digestive juices.
I can't 100% say, but I do side with your hypothesis being most likely correct.
Also, the slug is coated in a thick, protective mucus that had to be penetrated before it could be digested
Hmm. Interesting.
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 Interesting?? Are you on the spectrum?? Finish school!!
How often are you supposed to feed these guys? I picked up 2 2 years ago now but they starved when i expected them to pretty well feed themselves
Maybe the plant just wasn't finished. Digesting.
Very possible
That’s what most people are thinking but too traumatized to admit
It's not maybe, that's literally what we're looking at; we're speculating WHY
@@ZacoosoloSolo what do you mean? What would traumatize people here?
After a plant closes and eats are we supposed to cut it off or after its done eating itll open back up on its own?
Wouldn't it have opened on its own when it was done?
Not likely. That was a huge meal, and it was burning itself from the leaky juices.
Possibly not
Even if it did, it would open AFTER IT'S DONE like you said, and the whole point was to see the process partway through... what is with these silly questions lol
@joshyoung1440 what you crying for?
i tested this with acid before they make insta protective coating the slug only dies if there is too much acid compared to the mucus generation rate
In soviet flytrap, slug digest you.
😂😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not only the slug mucus is protective but as being an animal that relies on mucus -like stuff, it might also have a different resistance to acids compared to insects
When you're a plant and fall asleep first at the plant sleep over
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slug slime probably helped to create a more super tight seal never stood a chance
I've gotten this comment overwhelmingly. I never even pondered that as a possibility. But now looking at it, I think you are spot on!!
I wonder. Can a venus flytrap kill itself? 🤔
Yes, they can. Typically it's not on purpose but you never know.
No
No. How would it? WHY would it? A few critters out there engage in suicidal behavior, usually for the sake of their offspring, but how would that happen here? Just wondering though, what made you think of that?
@@anxiety_is_imminent what on earth are you talking about?
I'm pretty sure the reason it wasn't as dissolved as you thought it would be is because of all of the mucus a slug produces.
I believe you are correct.
you know, I've been gardening for years with very great success. hardly ever have plants die. but, I never sanitized the scissors 😂 now I just feel dumb. I had a venus fly trap, and it died, but i think it was more due to the watering / sunlight aspect, or it not going dormant properly.
Definitely more likely to be one of those issues. It's not a guarantee you will give a plant a systemic issue. But it's wayy easier to prevent a problem, than it is to fix a problem.
Do I really have to sterilize my equipment before cutting or would disinfection be safe enough as well?
Disinfectant is fine.
RIP Slug ✌️🕊️
birds of a feather flock together u slug...
Dude
🕊 🕊 🕊
How do I keep them fed apart from basic plant needs. I had little traps in the past and not one bug would land on them. Then winter came and nothing
Was it outdoors
😲😲😲
Right 🙃🙃🙃
Little Shop of Horrors "Feed me Seymour"
Impressionante este video...Uma planta carnívora que parece ter uma inteligência...perigosa, formidável!😊
Because of artificial light. Idk why that made me laugh😂
The intensity..the spectrum..
Very good explanation Raghothama Rao garu
Fun fact: you would think that they would be found in the rainforest or somewhere exotic, but in the wild, they are native only to North and South Carolina.
What’s the point of sterilizing the scissors, if you’re cutting the plant off completely from the stem?
There are so many slugs here. With this digestion rate I need like 500 of those plants
Not to be a stickler but unless your putting your scissors in an oven and sterilizing it like surgery equipment is sterilized the scissors are not sterilized, just aseptic or disinfected
Hmmm. That is interesting. Ty for the insight. 🙏🙏 p.s. ...I don't think it's being a stickler, simply stating a fact, and not just an opinion!!
I was in Lowe’s today and saw a bunch of VFT’s. I don’t have flys in my house, is it a waste of money, and plants life for me to buy them ?
Put them outdoors. But they will be a very basic variety.
Omg so freaking interesting never would have thought about that. Thank you for sharing!
I have a venus fly trap that was shocked when we repotted it. Is it normal for them to be droopy after repotting?
It could happen, but usually not. Did you use carnivorous friendly potting mix?
@@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 I did use carnivorous friendly soil with no fertilizer and I was very careful replanting but it's my first flytrap and I should have done a little more research. It was a gift but I'm hoping it's okay. Love these plants.
It stopped consuming the slug when the acids leaking caused enough damage to signal the plant to shut down secretions. Artificial light doesnt cause incomplete digestion.
My assumption wasn't artificial light, but lack of intensity.
i like that you take the time to respond to EVERY comment. you deserve more subs
Every comment besides this one
It's called "enjoying the food". I don't know anything about that because I inhale whatever I eat. But, rumors say the slower you eat and digest the food, the better the distribution of nutrients.
Hmm. Makes sense.
Does artificial light affect how quickly they digest food? I have mine under a artificial lamp and it usually takes a few days to reopen. My trap eats mostly house flys and fruit flys. I keep it in the kitchen.
Possibly, but if your opening back up in a couple days, your plants are quite healthy.
Does each trap need to catch its food independently or are the traps connected to one plant?
They're all one plant. The traps are analogous to leaves on a typical plant. Like any other, the "real" plant is the roots and stem.
One plant has many traps
What happens if you don’t cut the trap off? Does it eventually just fall off and a new one grows?
I bet it's actually less digested than you thought because of the slugs mucus layer. Your own stomach would digest itself without a similar mucus layer.
Well a slug has a different biology than other insects
No. It’s because slugs secrete a mucus polymer layer that can’t be digested by almost anything.
A dry slug salted should digest completely.
Mmmm interesting
I’ve bought three of these and couldn’t get them to close on anything. I will say though. Are some traps stronger than others? Cause if that’s the dude feeding the whole plant I think I’d like to keep that one! But, this is pretty cool for educational purposes!
Different ages of plants are larger with age. Also certain cultivars grow bigger than others. B52, alien, dc-xl all get way larger than typicals.
I had one when I was younger and people kept telling me, if I couldn't find any flies to put in the plant, I could put a little piece of bologna in it. Well, I did and needless to say, the bologna ended killing the plant. 😞😢
Growers choice 4200k cmh bulbs are almost an identical match to sunlight, including uv and ir. I've noticed huge plant health increases from switching to cmh from led.
I'll upgrade eventually 🙏
The type of light almost certainly has nothing to do with it. Slugs are covered in a protective mucus layer. That probably slowed down the digestion
I believe your correct
If you're saying the reason why your plant is a consuming as much as you think it should be consuming is because of artificial light then get a more powerful light but I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why
It's tricky. You have to coincider spectrum.
The scream I scrumpt when you opened it 😢😢😢
Slugs and Snails are actually pretty adept at surviving Flytraps. Their mucus acts as a protective layer just like how the mucus in our stomach lining protects our stomach from the digestive acid and can even allow them to escape between the teeth of the trap. Not the best specimen for this video 😁
I never had a plant like this. So you have to cut the trap because after digestion the trap dies?
Na. I cut it for the video.
Venus fly trap looks a lot different than he did when he was on WKRP in Cincinatti
As long as your artificial light is (uva/uvb) adequate for the plant, that shouldn’t be the issue. I think it’s more likely that the digestion was slowed down due to energy shifting towards new growth. That and you mentioned the digestive fluids leaking and burning the plant. Any cut, burn etc means the plant will also have to shift some of its energy to heal. Also mucous is a great defensive layer and slugs are lathered in it:)
Very logical. As this is an older vid now, under the same light intensity..the plant are very healthy.
Wouldn’t you want to wear a glove for this curious experiment?
There are interesting fluids inside. Your fingers can be poked/ cut open during the process and weird bacteria can get into your open wound, and most of the time, this baby eats and digest pretty interesting insects 🐞 🐜 🕷️ 🦗🦟🪳🪲🪰… 🤮
Hardly any of them sterilized, especially not after being in
“ flower- stomach “ liquid…🧐
Do they HAVE to eat protein or can they live strictly off. sun/water/soil
They need nutrients
What happens when u cut the plant off can u replant it or does it die why doesn't it reopen by itself
Hey, to answer it, even if I'm not the UA-camr, the traps are leafs and every plant have 5 to 6 leafs.
In the short, he cut just one leaf so the plant is just fine.
The rely the other page gave 🎯🎯
Poor fella! “Feed me Simore!”😅😂😅😂
Does this hurt the slug
The slug is a paid actor
What if you left the slug there? Doesn’t look finished
SubhanAllah what is the favor of your lord would you deny?
How quickly do they grow their traps back?
Did you essentially kill that flytrap by cutting it out?
Good question. No, the trap is only one leaf of the overall plant.
Slug: HELP!!!
*3 weeks later*
Slug: ughhh
Him: don’t worry my guy! I’ll save you!
Slug: thanks **crawls away like nothing happened**
Why does this remind me of the "sarlac pit" in "return of the jedi"
The slug 😂
Slug: "thanks bro
Why do you think it being under a artificial light changed it digesting the slug?
Do the roots move when it closes? How much more is moving?
The brown spot on the plant is likely from it sitting at or beneath the soil line. I doubt it gained much from that slug.
Might have...might not have
No. I think the a slugs oils on its skin is extremely toxic and more lubricated than most would assume.
Most people don't realize that the traps only open and close about 5 to 7 times before they die, so they play with the traps, just to see the closing mechanism.
Yea. It is part of the allure. It's a plant that moves 🤯🤯🤯 ...kinda crazy when you really think about it.
You just cut off part of the plant its food supply for observation 👀
I grew up in North Carolina and didn't know that these were from here for the first 16 years of my life. 100% assumed they were from the Amazon Forest or something.
I can totally see why you would think that
❤Eu comprei 5 vezes essa planta e elas nao sobreviveram, como se trata essa planta? Por favor
How much do you feed yours?
Iv had several of these and i can never keep them alive. What am i doing wrong?
Probably the wrong water.
@carnivorousplantsjourney1940 what water should I use? They just turn black. I heard they don't stay alive long anyway