The Boogeyman | A History of Jace, the Mind Sculptor
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2017
- This video looks at Jace, the Mind Sculptor's tumultuous relationship with tournament play and with the Magic brand.
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You can tell how heroic/antiheroic Jace is depending on where his hood is and how much of his face you can see
Hmmm
Pirate Jace!
Also makeup.
hahaha i didn't notice until now
@@hamlet8179 wholesome-vraska's-boyfriend-jace
Funny note in Venezuela we call Jace, TMS "Maradona" like the Argentin soccer player cause he have his blue uniform and once he hits the battlefield he can do what ever he wants.
¿pero también tiene Jace la mano de dios?
hahaha first time i've heard that one
Do you speak spanish? Argentinian subscriber here!
Another argentinian subscriber here!! Nice reference, haha!! ;-)
Sir, you made me chuckle.
You did it. You let people remember his name, he got his powers back.
Jace isn't even that good anymore.
@@philithegamer8265Don’t say his name godammit
@@RickyChops I'm sure he's talking about one of HIS other cards.
Two years later, it’s 2019 and both Jace and Stoneforge have been unbanned in modern.
aayacrance that couldn’t be farther from the truth lol. Jace is still the premier top end for control or blue-based midrange, and stoneforge Mystic is the best fair white card you can play. Both are very playable, but neither are broken in the slightest (mostly because modern is still dominated by unfair or linear decks).
Now another planeswalker becomes the new target as its banned in all but commander, vintage and legacy. xD
Flareon id bet money it gets banned in legacy at some point.
"Hold my beer Titan, I'll take this young whippersnapper and you get the next one, it might be that annoying shadow again" ~ Urza
yayyy
_It's showtime._
_-Jace, the Mind Sculptor_
Rhystic: "There's seven Chandras total"
M20: **Hold my beer**
Jack Huber Chandra is now the most commonly printed Planeswalker at 14 cards. Ajani is second at 12. Jace is third at 11.
No Idea why M20 was so obsessed with Chandra
The three chandra's were her 3 periods in her life.
@@fluffykins1460 I believe there were 4 Chandra planeswalker cards in M20. I feel everyone forgets that Chandra, Flame's Fury existed since it was overshadowed by Chandra, Awakened Inferno.
I'd also like to know what the total number of printings of each planeswalker are, not just how many unique cards each walker has. That may help explain the Jace fatigue.
I never again want to hear the phrase "you can go ahead and keep that at the top".
*draws land*
Andrew Upvote this man....so that his comment can stay at the top....
plays 8th land, casts cruel ultimatum.
@@RagingRugbyst theres multiple counterspell waiting for that one spell
It could be worse. You could keep a good card at the top just to exile it using something like Ashiok.
You could also yoink that card and cast it as your own. Because you really like tormenting your opponent.
The nostalgia is unreal in this comment
And now Oko is the new boogeyman... a thief of crowns you could say
Stole Jace’s crown as best planeswalker
ironic
Nothing in the entire game of magic makes you feel more defeated than when your opponent says “you can keep it”. The game is not over, but you’ve already lost
There’s also the mind game of telling an opponent they can keep a good card so that they fetch into potentially a bad card I watched a recent tour where fate sealing was relevant because of the tricks Jace players did
*Teferi, Hero of Dominaria*
That's the new Boogeyman for standard right now
never again will i make the mistake of sitting through a 1 hour game just because i didnt know the deck had kaya in it
XD yup!
Tooth fairy can get a bolt to the face too
As a player of Esper Superfriends Control on Arena I wholeheartedly agree...mwhahahaha
3feri is becoming the new boogeyman, he's the perfect control planeswalker
its crazy how now jace would never be played in modern
I have a friend who is a really good deckbuilder, and he decided to make a meme deck once; it basically ran 2-4 copies of each Jace variant... It actually won a lot... but one game he almost got all 9 out at once, and then, gloriously, I top-decked
Merciless Eviction.
It was pretty merciless indeed.
XDDDDD
The (almost) 9 Jaces forgot to pay rent
@@Aigis31 I mean, forgetting things is something he is notoriously skilled at, so that would make sense.
Just survive another turn.
All I can hope is that he’s merciful.
Can’t hold on much longer...
End of game.
Storm Crow huh?
A Guy how did you know?
You aren't the only one who has nightmares...
Patrick Froysland Nunca mejor dicho
They made a mistake when they made Jace, The Mind Sculptor. The card made me quit the game entirely!
I love how stoneforge has come full circle twice and is now a key feature in Hammertime, the #2 modern deck
Jace fatigue has quickly become jace nostalgia. Seeing Jace be completely overrun ever since the war of the spark era has been disheartening for those of us who loved the card (especially now that bowmasters and the one ring both exist)
What I find fascinating about this video is just how much its perspective on things has changed in such a relatively short amount of time. In less than three years, Jace has been unbanned and barely impacted modern, Planeswalkers have cemented themselves even further as the games premier card type with Wren and Six, both 3 and 5 mana Teferis, and of course, BrOko been banned in nearly all formats. There's also both WAR Narset and Karn, which have both been restricted. Furthermore, in the past 3 years of the total 13 years of Planeswalkers being a card type, the amount of them has more than doubled from 102 that were present during this videos' production to the over 200 we have now (exact number of 215 as of August of 2020). It goes to show both how Magic as a game evolves, and more specifically a shift in a certain aspect of design, that being Planeswalkers and their Power Level, and what I find even more interesting about all of this is that the modern increase of power level of planeswalkers can be traced back to, in my knowledge, Battle for Zendikar and the Gideon card printed in that set (Although it is arguable that Magic Origins and the printing of Jace, Vryn's Prodigy and all of the flip walkers in that started off this shift) which 'coincidentally' ties into the start of the modern age of Magic Storytelling and the shift to a more long form narrative with the central characters of the Gatewatch. Which then raises the question, which came first, the desire to print more and more powerful planeswalkers, or the desire to tell a greater narrative (basically all of the Gatewatch/Bolas Arc)? That I don't have an answer for. If one of the few readers of this comment knows, please share, preferably with cited sources.
I started playing Magic in 2010, saw a red dragon tribal deck (iirc) at a game store and begged my mom to buy it for me, along with a single booster pack. I opened Jace, The Mind Sculptor in the very first Magic booster pack I ever opened. I had no idea what value he had, but he was the only Planeswalker I had and I thought that was just so unique and cool, so he was my favorite and I shoved him into every deck I built (including the dragon deck--I was not a very good deck builder).
He's in awful shape now, water damaged and bent and unplayable without sleeves because of how distinctly the card back has worn. But I keep him double sleeved, protected and in a secure spot, and even as my interest in Magic has waxed and waned, he's my most prized card and I'll always keep him around. I just find it so funny how I managed to have the amazingly good luck to immediately open one of the infamous cards in Magic history, and yet have absolutely zero clue about his value until he was already pretty much destroyed from use. It reminds me of my first few years playing Magic, and he never fails to make me smile.
Watching this in 2019 after hoogak summer and urza/oko winter is just funny
It's a funny point that was brought up about jace's dark side...
It was said that Jace, when fully bad guy, is willing to wipe everyone's mind, and his ability would reflect that.
Now that we have a Phyrexian Jace, I considered the plot against the card against character design and... I truly think Jace has something up his sleeve for the Phyrexians, ultimately. How many times has he unwittingly or unwillingly become a pawn to someone else's schemes? Twice? Or is it 3? Hmmm... interesting implications
Nah bro he's on a weird "compleat the multiverse" honeymoon with Vraska
@@thefinalboss4471 sadly
And then they learned absolutely nothing and printed Oko even more powerful than JTMS. Yes, print a Vintage level card in a Standard Environment, nothing wrong here, wheeeeeee
It’s crazy to imagine there’s a video for jace but oko absolutely dwarfs him in pure raw power and it’s even worse in older formats where his “ult” can do way more damage in formats like vintage and legacy.
@@Darling-su3ci after a one turn up-tick... And still survives...
At least they learned enough to ban him instantaneously.
That's nothing compared to the nightmare that is the early Companion mechanic. One person speculated that Lurrus of the Dream Den could've been banned in more formats than Oko if the mechanic wasn't nerfed.
@@cyrusrule3164 he was legal in standard way too long, just like freakin’ Uro and Omnath.
What a good youtuber
s wise Honestly by far the best
ya he's okay
Really one of a kind, love his work.
And then BOOM! Jace is unbanned! The end is nigh.
And then........it was a dud all along!
@@pairot01 I wouldn't say he's a dud, he just isn't format warping.
A month ago when I wrote that comment miracles wasn't a thing in modern, it took a long time to get there.
@@melindagreer4177 he isn't good in modern because he is to slow. In formats like legacy and vintage he is still center stage in a lot of decks.
@@pairot01 azorius control and such still use Jace to a certain extent. He's if I am not wrong number 21 In the most played cards right now. Teferi is better right now in modern dou.
One, two Jace is coming for you...
ConsoleCleric 3 4 counter your sword.
The Phantom of the Telethon 9 10 did you think you could win
11 12 modern is hell
13, 14 he hasn't really been seen
WHERE DID 7 *8 GO
He's baaaaaa~aaaack...
Thanks for killing Modern, Wizards of the Cunt :|
Guess $$$$$ > healthy metas.
Was that a Joey World's Tour "back"? Because that's how I read it 😂
BrewBrewBrewTheDeck 4 months later, modern is great :D
He didn't break the meta tho
Jace was a healthy unban actually
"No room to unban Jace without a sufficient reprint..."
*Sees Masters 25 have a Jace on its pack art.
:O
Guess what happened next... XD
Beetlejace Beetlejace Beetlejace
Fix that spaghetti you idiot. Now we're all going to die
Louise Drake After the unban I came back to watch this, dear god what have I done
is this part of crazy diamond's ability
IIIIIIIIIT'S SHOWTIME!
What did you do!?
gotta love how Both jace, and stone forge got unbanned from modern watching this vid is weird on this day
Jace, the Metagame Sculptor
he is the equivalent of feh's Reinhardt
One video I would love to see in the future is "The Magic Art of Rebecca Guay". I'd imaine it would be quite interesting, given her unique artistic style and variety of cards.
Your videos are so awesome! I wish they would come out more often, but at the same time, it's probably for the best that you don't rush them. Keep up the amazing work.
Ahahaha at 2:20 I legit had to pause the video and open a new tab, actually saying out loud "Chapin did a what now!?".
I had never seen that song before. Man this is beautiful.
Now make one on the Menace that was “Oko, Thief of Crowns” so good that it had to be Banned in essentially EVERYTHING.
I think you make some of the best magic content in existence. I seriously have never seen higher quality stuff. One with nothing is one of the coolest videos I've ever seen. I still watch that one and thoughtseize pretty regularly. That and bolt. Basically all of them
I just found you channel after seeing you on The Command Zone. Your videos really are top notch, thank you for the effort and unique content.
Brilliant work as per usual, you always exceed my expectations with each new entry to your library!
This video got my sub.
I have to say, I'm absolutely transfixed by the way you tell these stories. It's masterful. I can't pinpoint certainly what makes your way of storytelling here so compelling, but I must say I love it.
Excellent.
Content Cop - Jace
What we do here is go back back back back
Waiting on content cop Teferi
Fun parallel you drew with the boogeyman and Jace. Good storytelling.
Every video you make is a masterpiece. Can't thank you enough for your dedication to your craft.
A note of intrest about the 4 ability template for planeswalkers is that in the span of time from the release of this video to current time of writing; is that even though the planeswalker count has nearly tripled, the number of planeswalkers added with this template is only 3. Guess some things can still remain unique design notes even all these years later.
It's funny to rewatch this six years later and having Jace be unbanned everywhere and played nowhere because 4 mana is just too much
Ohhhh I love this videos!!! Thank you!!
I love it Sam! Every time you release a new video, I think there's no way the next one can be so amazing. And every time i think that, you prove me wrong.
I loved the deep-dive, especially because I started playing (long) after Jace the Mind Sculptor was in standard. This provided a lot of cool backstory that I didn't know before!
I loved this video! It had such a great, lore like feel. I wasn't able to play with The Mind Sculptor when it was insane in standard, but I remember a con I went to that was running a tournament and walking the tables and only seeing the Caw Blade deck. I had never seen the like and it was something to behold. Really great vid!
This video is actually still pretty insightful in retrospect post-ban. You did your research well!
*jace gets unbanned* "oh" *deconstructs all modern decks for cards to move to commander decks*
Matiya024 he's legal in commander
He can only be a one of in the 99. People seem to forget that big threats in Modern/Standard tend to be nothing in Commander since they're a one of. Thoughtseize is powerful but not at all against 4 other players when you have a single copy in your deck you'll more than likely never see due to odds.
jace isnt that good in commander cause there are multiple people
He's not really all that good in commander, at least not multiplayer, 3+ other people 3 times the likelihood for there to be answers, ability only targets one player. He doesn't work with Doubling Season. He's just okay in a commander game.
Never saw a planeswalker performing well in our commander games.
Man, your videos are awesome. The way you present the information and how you build a narrative around it is so pleasant. Keep up the good work!
This is the best, well put together video I've ever seen on magic. Thank you for the time you put into this
Two unbannings, one Oko and two Teferis later, this video didn't age very well
Good to know other people were freaked the fk out by their friends doing the bloody mary thing....
I appreciate all of the random information about jace!! I appreciate all the work you out into these videos man
Enjoying rewatching some great Rhystic Studies episodes
You make great content keep it up
There is character fatigue with all of gatewatch, Jace is just predominant because he has 2 more then the next highest amount. Also his face doesn't just appear on planeswalkers. How many cards bare his image/referance him in some way?
i once had a commander deck with flip jace as the commander and very card including the islands had jace in the art. theres literally enough cards with his face on them to build an entire 100 card singleton deck with him only lol.
This is probably my favorite video you've done, and that's saying quite a lot because I love most of them
I'm really glad that someone else combs through and watches older episodes of The Magic Show.
Superb!!! Love it sam!
I think you described Jace as a whole. Through this video you painted a picture of what is Jace. I'm a fan of blue and he is my favorite planeswalker. So thank you for the great content as always.
A buddy of mine just introduced me to your channel using the Colors of Ravnica video. Loving what I’m watching! Your vids are simultaneously fascinating and enriching - absolutely deepening my love for an already incredible game. Cheers, brother.
Exceptionally well thought out and above par editing, which for you is par for the course lol, keep up the awesome ^_^.
10:41, Jace's distribution is as prevalent as we think it is.
You called out Garruk, Gideon, Liliana, Nissa, and Chandra. Throw in Ajani and you have account for half of the planeswalkers ever printed between seven characters and Jace has the most of all.
At nine cards Jace makes up almost a tenth of all planeswalker cards ever printed. Furthermore, Lorwyn was released in October of 2007, which means there has been a new Jace almost ever year since the planeswalker card type was introduced and when there wasn't a new one, there was a reprint of an old one.
All of that makes him very prevalent and his ubiquity anything but false perception.
He also failed to mention that Jace hate has not-so-much to do with the number of cards he has, but the amount and tone of snarky Jace comments in flavor text across a huge number of cards. He seems like the obnoxious self-insert of somebody with a delusional, intellectual superiority complex.
ulrickts, it's both. Jace is a boring asshole that is constantly being used as the face of MTG. I absolutely hate the character. He is in practically every set and has way too many cards of him. This has nothing to do with JTMS as a card. I did not play during that era and I still hate the character. I was praying that Nicol Bolas would kill him off in HoD
A Jace Planeswalker card has been in standard every season since Lorwyn, in October of 2007. Over 10 years. THATS where the fatigue is coming from. Just saying 'oh its nine cards' doesn't dismiss that its been over ten years straight now of Jace in standard.
I don`t hate Jace but i simply do not like he`s character many of he`s Planeswalker cards are pretty good or amazing in JTMS case. But i do think that the characters boring and there are so many planeswalkers with great story potential like Ashiok, Elspeth, Dack Fayden, Karn, Koth and many more i would honestly love if the Phyrexians got a planeswalker card or honestly anything to shake up all of the Jace and Gatewatch feeding we have gotten like People have gotten Gideon fatigue as well
@@mmurphy373 Venser is my favourite but they had to go kill him off and we only get ONE planeswalker card of him, and he's about a million times more interesting (even ability wise) than jace ever has been.
I just love your videos!!! I’m an artist, have just started playing magic and love the analytical nature of these videos! Thanks for all the amazing work :)
great vids, man. hope you continue!
I would have to disagree with you on the point that "Jace-Fatigue" is only based on perspective.While there may be only nine cards depicting our favorite mind mage, he's had a major part in the story of a majority of the blocks released since Return to Ravnica. It's not that people are complaining that there are too many Jace cards (although some may argue this as well), but that Wizards seems to be using him a a character in almost every new story.
He had no part in Alara, Mirrodin, original Innistrad, Theros, Tarkir. And he only showed up in the following blocks because of the Gatewatch, and not all of them had cards of Jace. While he is indeed the most used character, it isn't as much as people think it is.
He is a convenient perspective for Wizards to use. A relatively muted personality who can read minds makes for an easy method of delivering exposition. I would assume that's one of the other big reasons behind this feeling
He appears as a character in approximately 40 Magic Story articles of over 230 total. In 1 Planeswalker novel of 3 total. In 1 post-Mending block novel series of 5 total.
Even if you were to cut pre-RTR story content away, Jace isn't present in anywhere near a majority of the stories.
Beleren Typeface as well?
What does he mean 'only nine cards'? Jace has nine fucking cards! That's a lot!
You missed one of the largest component of why Jace was so busted: Gideon Jura.
Gideon was the lock for the deck. turn 4 jace to 5 jura meant game.
And Jace/Gideon was the bulwark against Valakut. The other broken deck.
I have watched this video probably 10 times and the first two minutes every single time has giving me chills very well-made video sir.
Man, I really love the editing in your videos. You do a great job.
Jace was banned July 1, 2011
Zendikar block was scheduled to rotate September 30, 2011
They banned Jace and Stoneforge Mystic only 3 months before their planned rotation. That's like if two douchebags were at a club and they were on their way to the door, when suddenly two bouncers grabbed and threw them outside.
they banned him from modern too not just standard
Not to mention 3onths is a long time in standard to only see one truly viable deck
Oh this is gold. T3feri banned weeks before he rotated.
Now we have both Stoneforge and Jace. What a time to be alive
This was such a fun installment of this series! A lot to learn, and a lot to consider.
That was perfection! Thanks for the great video!
In Modern, powerful linear strategies can win turn 3. Storm, burn, vizier/druid combo, affinity, etc. In Modern, the best 'fair deck' can counter that turn 4 jace for 1 mana with a stubborn denial. Modern games are regularly over by the time Jace had the chance to activate once or twice. He's obviously strong, but considering how few and far between you get good Modern control decks, Jace seems a reasonable supplement to a weak archetype.
William Butler Humans doesn’t play Stubborn Denial, just going to put that out there.
Its interesting coming back here after a couple years, times sure have changed. Jace the once overpowered insane card is now what id consider a relatively fair and well designed planeswalker. Its been unbanned along with stoneforge and nowhere near as busted as people feared, set after set has drawfed these cards in powerlevel and overall they've been pushed into just playables
We've moved on into an environment where even 'underpowered' sets can still give you turn 2 kills in nearly-standard sets. All hail the kobold lethal meme deck.
Always appreciate your content, always looking for more!
Great video! Ì really liked the interviews with pro players speculating on how good jace was and I'd like to see more of that in future videos.
Teferi Time Raveller: Hold my Beer
Matthew Staats oko...
@@joshwhitmire5753 ya oko is definitely better then them both
He's back
You have the most aesthetically beautiful videos.
Your editing is superb.
I'm not too knowledgeable of Magic, but I still love it, and I really enjoy your videos as well.
WOW SAM. Just wow. Perfect combination of story, play, and lore. Absolutely beautiful. Well done.
The "Boogeyman of magic"
Laughts in Oko thief of Crowns
I remeber hearing a story of a guy opening a foil Jace on prerelease, sat up, took the Jace and all his belongings and walked out the door. It was kind of a small place at the time and it was winner got to take first pick of the card pool.
Your videos are so well edited. Great work as usual.
I'm an Elf mage....I see Jace , the Mind sculptor? My army has already killed him...and I keep going. Never was afraid of this card.
Andy Hall you haven’t played a good control player then....
Opponent- *taps out and plays jace*
Me an intellectual storm player- guess I'll win
Absurdly good and simple editing. Loved it.
amazing content as always. this literally gave me chills
I remember GP Dallas 2011. It was my first GP as a competitive Magic player, and I went in confident that I could at least get a decent win/loss ratio. 8 rounds of nothing but Caw-Blade later, I was disgusted at the Standard format, and have since stuck strictly with Modern and Legacy, only dabbling in Standard when the format isn't completely warped or a 3-deck format.
I started re-playing RL MTG when Jace came out. $200 a pop, and you weren't going to beat a deck without four copies of JTMS. I saw that overpowered bullsh*t firsthand, and WotC did nothing to stop it for a full year and a half. They were making too much money on Worldwake cases. It didn't become a Boogeyman after it was banned. It was already one as soon as it hit decks.
I stopped playing real-life MTG shortly afterwards and swore off RL CCGs altogether. Digital CCGs weren't nearly as brutal. (Hearthstone sucks nowadays, though.)
"I wanna talk about how worldwake in type 2 will be more then just 'Jace is good'. Let me start by talking about how Jace will define the format"
This is only the 2nd video I've seen from you, but I must say I have subscribed and loved these videos you have made.
Awesome video man! I can tell you put a lot of resarch and other effort into the video. Keep it up! ☺
Wait. since when was unban Jace a meme? I've been sacrificing virgin sheep every unban cycle to get Bloodbraid Elf or Deathrite Shaman back! Screw Jace.... signed. Long time Jund player
BBE would be fine, but Deathrite NEEDS to stay banned.
They're talking about banning Deathrite in legacy.. it would NEVER be legal in modern :p
Bloodbraid would probably be fine thou..
I though unban twin was the popular banlist meme.
Unban Mental Misstep.
BBE died for Deathrites sins
Another example for the beginning is the Scottish play.
Awesome video man! Great job as always!
What a perfect video and format for Halloween, good work
and here we are... the boogeyman unleashed!
Here we go.
BUENISIMOS VIDEOS AMIGO! una gran edición! mereces miles de follows!!!
love how all these op cards are unbanned now
i smell a sequel.
Love your vids. I always appreciate seeing them.