The space we were leaving between our back 4 and our midfield was ridiculous. The fans made a 700 mile round trip spending their hard earned cash to watch that debacle. The players need to have a good, long, hard look at themselves, if you give the ball away you have to have that desire to bust a gut to track back 60, 70 yards to prevent the counter attack it's a non negotiable. Credit to Plymouth who had that desire to get forward when we turned the ball over.
Your exactly right it’s one of the things I said right after the transfer window, we have no defensive mid. Sorensen can’t be relied on as he spends too much time injured, and no one else in the senior squad plays like it. A team that plays fast, direct, attacking football has easily shown our flaws because of it. Our two centre backs are slow to top it all off
Your commentator is right that there was no need for the Norwich player to get in the face of Bali Mumba after the (rather dubious) awarding of the penalty. Unpleasant and unprofessional. Argyle had a nightmare on Tuesday evening, you had one today. Swings and roundabouts, Don't all lose your minds. Finally, congratulations to your travelling support. Loud, boisterous and there till the bitter end. Good wishes to everyone who made the journey. COYG!
If you watch it closely (The Football League show has a brilliant slowed and zoomed version of it) you can clearly see the foul was committed outside the box. Should have been a free kick, not a pen
@@TheRynator14 true, but your first goal had an offside player coming back onside to interfere with play. ... But who am I kidding, we deserved nothing from today
Yea, exactly, it is only one game Mr Janner, plenty of title winners in the Champ or Prem have had a thumping in a season. Though, I think from a Norwich perspective, that is the heaviest defeat at the Champ / Second tier since 1996 . . .it was unexpected given Norwich were top scorers in the league and Plymouth are not Real Madrid but as you say, don't lose your minds. Norwich are inconsistent though. Last season, we hammered several teams, then slumped.
@@captaininspector8898 Oh Captain, my Captain fair enough but just one small correction. Since the beginning of last season Argyle have a better home record in the league than Real Madrid. Don't believe me? Look it up and see.
I did the same coach journey for the infamous Glenn Roeder horror show in November 2007, mercifully only three-nil featuring the notorious 'Plymouth six' that never played for the club again. Fair play to those 1,600 that made the schlep this time around and especially those that stuck around for the full game and kept supporting regardless (but also let them know at half time/full time just what they thought of the 'performance'). ...Just had a dig-up of my attendance stats: I was one of the 566 away fans in a 11,222 crowd. It was almost a full decade before I returned to Home Park for a non-Norwich League One game (a 4-0 loss to Scunthorpe with a Plymouth red card; 9,605 crowd that day inc me & my partner) whilst on holiday down there early in the 17/18 season! Ian Holloway managing Plymouth back then. Roeder of course since having lost an 18 year battle to a brain tumour in 2021. Plymouth: Larrieu, Connolly, Timar, Seip, Hodges (Gosling 86), Martin, Norris, Nalis (Abdou 83), Halmosi, Ebanks-Blake, Hayles (Easter 67). Subs Not Used: Doumbe, Fallon. Booked: Timar. Goals: Martin 26, Connolly 47, Norris 49. Norwich: Marshall, Otsemobor, Taylor (Brellier 34), Shackell, Lappin, Croft (Strihavka 79), Russell, Spillane, Murray, Martin (Brown 46), Cureton. Subs Not Used: Gilks, Smith. Booked: Russell, Shackell, Brellier.
Lack of pace at the back means we are open to counter. Lack of bodies in midfield mean we are open to being overrun. Lack of confidence in the team means we are open to getting hammered. Lack of depth on the bench means we are not open to changing a game. Unfortunately it is now clear that a run of poor form will continue till Christmas and poor Wagner will be gone.
Surely it's time now for the team to admit that the defence and keeper are not up to the task. At first it wasn't really an issue because we were playing easy teams but this goes to show that this can't continue
@@ApolloStands we have some injuries so we’re just playing absolute scruffs on the pitch. like this other geezer who we got on loan from forest for a million or whatever it was and we dont even play him
Sara's misplaced passes led to 4 goals. No defensive responsibility from midfield. Second goal Rowe is left with 2 players on his own cross shouldn't come in. Well done Adam though!
This was such a great game to watch in person! I honestly thought this would've been a low scoring draw game but was very surprised of the result. The Norwich fans I give kudos to for always singing and dancing throughout the game even when you was 4-0 down, it never dampened your spirits 👌 Great 3 points for the greens 💚
Interesting for the fourth argyle goal,, Norwich defender decides to hitch up his shorts, at a crucial time, instead of giving the task in hand his full commitment. 🐎😎
normal service has resumed with city,there down fall again is that they listened to schmacker telling them that they are a premiership team, not good enough all round
I know Hardie was offside but I can’t tell if he actually touches it. If he did than definitely offside and shouldn’t have counted but it also looks like we was pushed into the ball so not sure if that matters. Regardless, 5-2 win is still awesome as 6-2 💚Plymouth fan, cheers 🍻
After watching the highlights, or should I have said lowlights, it appears our defence is pathetic. I noticed two city players running into each other as a Plymouth striker leaves them standing and goes on to score !
As an Ipswich fan I thought Norwich would be top 2 after the first few games , looked too good for the league, over dependence on two now injured players doesn’t look good
not saying Hwang or Idah are necessarily bad, but without our 2 strong Strikers Sarge and Barns we aren't intimidating enough to cause the opposition to fall back. as well Nunez who has moments where he can be a game changer is also missing from the game. Our team will be back, but for now, we will have to deal with a dozen more poor performances.
This is to be expected with the pathetic state of the squad and management. The circle goes round and round: praise mediocrity-being shocked at poor players performing badly
Ipswich look a more complete side this year and imo will finish above Norwich., when will Norwich fans turn on Delia and the ownership ? It’s ridiculous
Funny thing is your channel shows 7 mins of this, with replays to rub it in. On argyle's there's only 2 n half mins coverage. That's all we need to see. Now off to Primark.
First goal was offside. Having said that I would fine the Norwich defenders a weeks wages for turning their back on the ball, instead of growing a pair and standing up and stopping the ball. Dreadful defending.
Cheated again. I suspect a few of the Plymouth players were on performance enhancers - odd how their players seemed noticeably faster than ours. Needs investigating.
Everyone will get a battering this season as they do every season, in at least one game. So, no, that is the first game this season it has happened. Prior to that, it was Norwich dishing out the batterings and that is how they were top scorers in the league.
The space we were leaving between our back 4 and our midfield was ridiculous. The fans made a 700 mile round trip spending their hard earned cash to watch that debacle. The players need to have a good, long, hard look at themselves, if you give the ball away you have to have that desire to bust a gut to track back 60, 70 yards to prevent the counter attack it's a non negotiable. Credit to Plymouth who had that desire to get forward when we turned the ball over.
Your exactly right it’s one of the things I said right after the transfer window, we have no defensive mid. Sorensen can’t be relied on as he spends too much time injured, and no one else in the senior squad plays like it. A team that plays fast, direct, attacking football has easily shown our flaws because of it. Our two centre backs are slow to top it all off
It’s the bane of every football fan. Can your players put in that extra effort or not ?
My favourite part of this ****show is how surprised Chris Goreham is that Idah can score from a penalty kick.
Your commentator is right that there was no need for the Norwich player to get in the face of Bali Mumba after the (rather dubious) awarding of the penalty. Unpleasant and unprofessional. Argyle had a nightmare on Tuesday evening, you had one today. Swings and roundabouts, Don't all lose your minds. Finally, congratulations to your travelling support. Loud, boisterous and there till the bitter end. Good wishes to everyone who made the journey. COYG!
If you watch it closely (The Football League show has a brilliant slowed and zoomed version of it) you can clearly see the foul was committed outside the box. Should have been a free kick, not a pen
@@TheRynator14 true, but your first goal had an offside player coming back onside to interfere with play.
... But who am I kidding, we deserved nothing from today
@@hughtube5154 A fair point. The referee missed a couple of things today. In a closer game, he may have influenced the outcome.
Yea, exactly, it is only one game Mr Janner, plenty of title winners in the Champ or Prem have had a thumping in a season. Though, I think from a Norwich perspective, that is the heaviest defeat at the Champ / Second tier since 1996 . . .it was unexpected given Norwich were top scorers in the league and Plymouth are not Real Madrid but as you say, don't lose your minds. Norwich are inconsistent though. Last season, we hammered several teams, then slumped.
@@captaininspector8898 Oh Captain, my Captain fair enough but just one small correction. Since the beginning of last season Argyle have a better home record in the league than Real Madrid. Don't believe me? Look it up and see.
Coach and ticket was 95 quid, plus there was a 5.30am start and a late night return.
To be served up that mess.
Ask for a full refund.
I did the same coach journey for the infamous Glenn Roeder horror show in November 2007, mercifully only three-nil featuring the notorious 'Plymouth six' that never played for the club again. Fair play to those 1,600 that made the schlep this time around and especially those that stuck around for the full game and kept supporting regardless (but also let them know at half time/full time just what they thought of the 'performance').
...Just had a dig-up of my attendance stats:
I was one of the 566 away fans in a 11,222 crowd.
It was almost a full decade before I returned to Home Park for a non-Norwich League One game (a 4-0 loss to Scunthorpe with a Plymouth red card; 9,605 crowd that day inc me & my partner) whilst on holiday down there early in the 17/18 season!
Ian Holloway managing Plymouth back then.
Roeder of course since having lost an 18 year battle to a brain tumour in 2021.
Plymouth: Larrieu, Connolly, Timar, Seip, Hodges (Gosling 86), Martin, Norris, Nalis (Abdou 83), Halmosi, Ebanks-Blake, Hayles (Easter 67).
Subs Not Used: Doumbe, Fallon.
Booked: Timar.
Goals: Martin 26, Connolly 47, Norris 49.
Norwich: Marshall, Otsemobor, Taylor (Brellier 34), Shackell, Lappin, Croft (Strihavka 79), Russell, Spillane, Murray, Martin (Brown 46), Cureton.
Subs Not Used: Gilks, Smith.
Booked: Russell, Shackell, Brellier.
Lack of pace at the back means we are open to counter. Lack of bodies in midfield mean we are open to being overrun. Lack of confidence in the team means we are open to getting hammered. Lack of depth on the bench means we are not open to changing a game. Unfortunately it is now clear that a run of poor form will continue till Christmas and poor Wagner will be gone.
As an ipswich fan this makes me happy 😂😂😂
You'll probably end your drought this season and beat us. You've earned it.
So you should. We're terrible.
Farmer club
For the first time in years you may actually get the chance to beat us if we play like that.
Watching this and touching your sister makes you happy
imagine having the most embarrassing loss of the season…
...so far. There are still 38 games left. If we play like this against Ipswich or Leeds...
@jjmjohn663 we're not a bunch of glory seeking weirdos so we stand by the club no matter the outcome
Surely it's time now for the team to admit that the defence and keeper are not up to the task. At first it wasn't really an issue because we were playing easy teams but this goes to show that this can't continue
@@ApolloStands we have some injuries so we’re just playing absolute scruffs on the pitch. like this other geezer who we got on loan from forest for a million or whatever it was and we dont even play him
Somehow already been worsened lol
Sara's misplaced passes led to 4 goals.
No defensive responsibility from midfield.
Second goal Rowe is left with 2 players on his own cross shouldn't come in.
Well done Adam though!
This was such a great game to watch in person! I honestly thought this would've been a low scoring draw game but was very surprised of the result. The Norwich fans I give kudos to for always singing and dancing throughout the game even when you was 4-0 down, it never dampened your spirits 👌 Great 3 points for the greens 💚
Never did I think I’d see my hometown beat a recently relegated prem team like this that bad😂😂
Interesting for the fourth argyle goal,, Norwich defender decides to hitch up his shorts, at a crucial time, instead of giving the task in hand his full commitment. 🐎😎
Maybe he needed a p..s
I got home at 12:30 in the morning, stinker of a match at least the fans tried
Yep same mate
Thank you for your support!
Mug for going
i got a friendship and relationship with your fans I'm a Bristol City fan i send my love to you all ❤️
We got you and you got us Fair play
Which of these teams was in L1 last year 😂 💙🤍
Which of those teams won the league with 100+ points and have won the most home games in England since the start of 2023
Someone remind me again why we sold them Bali Mumba for peanuts when he was League 1 Young Player of the Season last year?
Brilliant Goal From Adam Idah 2x. Norwich City Defeat Against Plymouth Argyle In The Home Park Stadium. Commentator : Chris Goreham.
Idah
@@Ed-fp9rx Thanks
Kinda looks like the Norwich players walked to Plymouth for that match ! ! !
They should take their buckets and spades with them.
The next time the Norwich players play a club down by the seaside they really must remember to take their buckets and spades with them !.
Norwich flatter to deceive. They have unjustly won games but today got shown up for what they are , a moderate middle of the table team .
"Norwich flatter to deceive."
- I don't think you know what this means.
"They have unjustly won games"
- How ? Paid the ref ?
normal service has resumed with city,there down fall again is that they listened to schmacker telling them that they are a premiership team, not good enough all round
Michael Schumacher?!
How refreshing not to see those flashing advertising boards. Well done PAFC
I know Hardie was offside but I can’t tell if he actually touches it. If he did than definitely offside and shouldn’t have counted but it also looks like we was pushed into the ball so not sure if that matters. Regardless, 5-2 win is still awesome as 6-2 💚Plymouth fan, cheers 🍻
A lot of people saying Argyles first was offside. Hardie (9) left the ball alone and so didn't interfere with the play so no offside call...
It's a questionable one. He left the ball alone but blocked the Norwich defender from intercepting. Who cares we scored another FIVE hahaha
If i was the manager, i wouldn't bother turning up for training on Monday.
Stay asleep.
@@ralphjones3804 like the manager
@@crvenazvezda1575 we all stay sleeping.
Norwich players don’t do any training, they just play hide and seek and with themselves.
isnt there a var in championship?
idk
Why do fans always blame it on defending? Every goal on planet earth isn't because of bad defending some of the strikes from Argyle were top quality
Imagine being 5-1 down and getting gobby.... what a 🔔🔚
One more defeat like that, and DW must leave our club. Greetings from Poland to all yellow familly.
Harsh to blame DW too much for this. The players lost their heads and lost their shape towards halftime. They're in for a very tough week of training.
I’m a forest fan who grew up in Norwich, you lot always found ways to wind me up. But this, this does put a smile on my face.
Just move or something 😭
After watching the highlights, or should I have said lowlights, it appears our defence is pathetic. I noticed two city players running into each other as a Plymouth striker leaves them standing and goes on to score !
I'm a birmingham fan...very strange result for you boys that is....what happened I had nowrich to win on my bet...didn't see that coming
Been like it for years to busy spending money on midfielders and selling any decent player
Somehow this reminds me of the Colchester debacle back in 2009.
As an Ipswich fan I thought Norwich would be top 2 after the first few games , looked too good for the league, over dependence on two now injured players doesn’t look good
im a city fan and it pains me to agree with you but youre absolutely right, our team management is shocking
Great business selling there best defender on the last day of transfer window to sit on a bench in premier league 😡
Duffy and Gibson played all game in this seson .they should rest
not saying Hwang or Idah are necessarily bad, but without our 2 strong Strikers Sarge and Barns we aren't intimidating enough to cause the opposition to fall back. as well Nunez who has moments where he can be a game changer is also missing from the game. Our team will be back, but for now, we will have to deal with a dozen more poor performances.
Just change the tactics to serve these players you now have... players are high quality. Idah can be alone forward.
@@Aarne.pohjois-koivisto 'Change' is the key word there, it takes time to adapt to change.
Losing 6-2 to Plymouth imagine what Ipswich will do to us. Disgraceful performance
The pen wasn’t a pen the connection was out side of the box
What was the linesman doing for the first goal? Almost as embarrassing standard as our performance
Gunn and Gibson very poor. Gibson has to be dropped for Batth next game. Shouldn't have been starting this game anyway
The whole Norwich midfield did not show up at all
😂😂🔵⚪️
Karma will get you lot as per
Go ipswich!!!
Oh Norwich, know how you feel... we support Saints... 😖
That's the worst. If you keep going like this, you'll face a back to back relegation
Wheyyyyyyy😂
Norwich looked good, for about 5 minutes…
Good game
😂 COYB
Creep
@@mrchode3641 At least you could count the Plymouth goals on one hand 😁
@@blueheaven6258 Ironic when you support Ipswich. Your club is literally known for it 😭😭
What happened here oh my God Norwich
Well, Norwich drew the 2nd half.
Pay pennies (not even) for old rejected players and this is what happens
This is to be expected with the pathetic state of the squad and management. The circle goes round and round: praise mediocrity-being shocked at poor players performing badly
Ya mum
Ipswich look a more complete side this year and imo will finish above Norwich., when will Norwich fans turn on Delia and the ownership ? It’s ridiculous
Most of us had, well before the end of last season, bit they still wont go away.
I'm a birmingham fan.....lol...I'm looking forward to the nowrich game 😅
I guess the City View will be a bit too X rated this week 🙂
Funny thing is your channel shows 7 mins of this, with replays to rub it in. On argyle's there's only 2 n half mins coverage.
That's all we need to see. Now off to Primark.
First goal was offside. Having said that I would fine the Norwich defenders a weeks wages for turning their back on the ball, instead of growing a pair and standing up and stopping the ball. Dreadful defending.
Plymouth shipped 5 past you lot last season over 2 games shut up
We’ll be nowhere this year.
Am definitely not going to be in the city when the tractor boys turn up .
That’s 2 beatings from the div 1 promotion teams .
I surrender!
League 1
Awful coach, lost 3 of 4, on the verge of American poison owners, lets all make fun of Ipswich!
I said at the start of the season we'd struggle under wanger.... how sad it is to be right.
norwich have no defence no midfield and nothing up front aside that not a bad team 😂😂😂😂😂
Wheels are off.
not sure it's a good idea posting this 😂
Woeful defending from Norwich.
Come on Norwich,u buy some player but u lose to England league 1 team, disappointed
Plymouth are a championship team, you don't know ball. L
Cheated again. I suspect a few of the Plymouth players were on performance enhancers - odd how their players seemed noticeably faster than ours. Needs investigating.
What a disgraceful performance.
The worst I’ve seen.
Ipswich look better this year
Please please please Don't play Gibson
Probably not gonna watch this
Disgraceful performance, Gibson is terrible, along come Norwich
Neutral here. This is the worse Norwich performance I have ever seen.
Then you must have missed the home game against Colchester in 2009.
Useless. Wagner out!
Embarrassing
Unfit Norwich team
Norwich get battered everywhere they go 😅
Everyone will get a battering this season as they do every season, in at least one game. So, no, that is the first game this season it has happened. Prior to that, it was Norwich dishing out the batterings and that is how they were top scorers in the league.
Nah.
Norwich aren't doing too bad in the league despite this thumping...
Yes, they've had some good results apart from this and away at Rotherham.
@@lewis72 Well as Greavsie used to say, it's a funny old game.
@@Protectchildrenfrompridecult
Sure is !
Norwich beat Hull, Hull beat Leicester, Norwich lost to Leicester.