Thank you for all the great content! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few months as I was promoted from Machinist to CMM Programmer. I always find myself referring back to your videos whenever I have a question. You have helped me more than you know!
Hi! Thanks so much! I am trying to create a metrology/CMM “micro-credential” at the college I teach at for the exact situation you have achieved. I’m thrilled my videos have been helpful in your career. Please feel free to send any questions my way via comment or email.
Hey there, I'm a machinist but starting a job in inspection and would like to program CMM's . Wrote some programs in Mastercam as a machinist. How is programming CMM compares to CNC? thanks
Thank you for making these videos available! I've been a student of GD&T for 40 plus years and appreciate your professionalism and getting your perspective and insight.... Great job!
Dude. You are awesome. I was dreading going back and watching a year's worth of metrology courses from college to prep for an interview and you have encapsulated all the most important stuff in a night's worth of content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and utilizing your pedagogical talents to help people learn 🙏
I’ve been binge watching your videos, I’ve learned a ton from them. With your easy going teaching style, you are the Bob Ross of GD&T. I’m half expecting you to say, let’s add a happy position reference over here lol.
Hey, great Lessons, will watch as much videos from this channel as I can throughout this month! Hope this videos will be great jumping board for learning about quality measurement.
Hi Dean, I have a question for you, if you have a triangle part with a hole in the center, so while measuring on CMM how to create the 3 mutually perpendicular planes & how to locate the axis of the hole with the respective to A, B & C Datums?....in this triangle part I took, back face, bottom face and one of the angle side face as datums A,B,C....now how to generate the DRF frame
I really enjoy learning from your videos. Maybe you could make one on measuring tubes with multiple bends. I always struggle aligning tubing on my CMM with intersection points for XYZ.
Thanks, last one about multiple datums frames was a great example! I also got a question about where you talked about the pattern and how we need to use the position instead of perpendicularity for datum B, which makes sense. However how do we tell manufacturer the actual position of the pattern itself (the relative location of holes in the pattern is clear and identified, but how do we specify how much the pattern should be up and down, and do we need another DRF to make that clear to machinist?) Kind of similar question to this is figure 4.9 of 2009 standard, it's not clear where datum B is, again relative positions are specified, but how does machinist know where to drill hole B to begin with, they only know it should be perpendicular to A. Thanks, and sorry for very long question 😅
Hi, great question! The short answer is to think of all the of the features being relative to the pattern of holes serving as a datum. Often this is a profile with a wide tolerance for areas that mate to air. Does this help?
Can you make a video over the terminology of which datums control what? For example, if a profile can control location, size, form, and orientation, and a call out has three datums, does the primary datum control the location and orientation, the secondary controls form, and what does the tertiary control? Or if it only had two datums called out, what does it mean to the machinist or manufacturer as to what is "more important" to the designer? Form and orientation and disregard location and size? Thank you for these videos!
Is there a difference between placing the datum on the dimension as opposed to on a surface on a cylindrical part? Is the datum an axis in both cases? API 6A shows the datum on the flange bore, but all the examples in ASME Y14.5 have the datum attached to the dimension. I expect it has the same meaning and this is just a matter of not enough space on the drawing as I can't think how else to constrain the part for inspection.
Thanks for your clear explanation. I think datum reference frame is the most important chapter in GD&T. I have a question about setting hole pattern as datum. As you mentioned, the measurement origin is the center of those four holes. How can I determine the orientation of this Datum Reference Frame on CMM? Can I choose any one of these holes for alignment?
Thanks for your great videos! I have a question: At the pattern example the A datum confuses me, how can it be used for position of the hole pattern if A datum is the flat base as shown on your board?
I'm a bit confused. In a different datum video, you said we can't use flatness as a datum feature of size, but in this one, it is shown as an example for the middle depiction. Am I misinterpeting something? Or is there a rule that allows it?
Hi, it the other video I was showing ways to apply datum feature symbols to indicate the datum is a surface. A flatness applied to a DMP can be used as a datum, but it is not common. It is not ideal as a primary datum, it is difficult to simulate.
Hi, it’s not required. Some companies don’t use it at all. The thing is, the companies that do use it make it very important. It is used during the early design process in modeling parts, then in the drawing phase to document the design intent.
The drawing phase is not preceeded by the modeling parts phase? And by modeling parts, are you referring to creating them in a CAD program typically? I ask because I want to get into product , part design in CAD, particularly Solidworks but I want to approach learning the skill methodically and systemically without jumping ahead.
Suggested topic from my side for your future videos...Let us say I have a rectangular part with a large 45 deg chamfer on one edge through which a hole is drilled. If that 45 deg(45 deg to horizontal) surface becomes my primary datum for the hole then how will my cartesian co-ordinates change & how will the basic dimension be used to locate the hole etc. Please amuse me by answering this Q.
Please do not ask me to put basic angle B/W axis of datum & the horizontal plane & provide angular geometric tolerance. I want to make sure that the chamfered surface is my primary datum for the hole so that I can ensure that hole is perpendicular to this surface.
Hi, I would make that chamfer surface the primary datum for whatever features exist there. So you would need more than one DRF. I’ll see what I can do about a video covering multiple DRFs.
@@RDeanOdell Great! After u make the chamfered surface as your primary datum could you please locate the feature on that surface with basic dimensions. Asking this as once primary datum is set the secondary & tertiary datums are at 90 degree to it. And we provide basic dim from datums and not datum features. Please show with an example if possible.
Hello Sir, I have Some questions, could you please clarify it. 1. Can it is compulsory to Show secondary and Territory Datum ? when we use to show Primary Datum ? 2. Can it is compulsory to show Feature Control Frame with Datums ? 3. Why we use Datum? can tolerance on dimension only can work ? 4. The Difference of AMSE vs ISO Standard for GD&T looking forward to hear from you. Thank you!
Hi, thanks for your question. I ask that you watch this video first, and then let me know if there are still areas you are unclear about. Applying GD&T: 3 Basic Steps ua-cam.com/video/LjACDWlNm04/v-deo.html
Thank you for all the great content! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few months as I was promoted from Machinist to CMM Programmer. I always find myself referring back to your videos whenever I have a question. You have helped me more than you know!
Hi! Thanks so much! I am trying to create a metrology/CMM “micro-credential” at the college I teach at for the exact situation you have achieved. I’m thrilled my videos have been helpful in your career. Please feel free to send any questions my way via comment or email.
Hey there, I'm a machinist but starting a job in inspection and would like to program CMM's . Wrote some programs in Mastercam as a machinist. How is programming CMM compares to CNC? thanks
Thank you for making these videos available! I've been a student of GD&T for 40 plus years and appreciate your professionalism and getting your perspective and insight.... Great job!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your feedback. I try to present the material in my own way.
Dude. You are awesome. I was dreading going back and watching a year's worth of metrology courses from college to prep for an interview and you have encapsulated all the most important stuff in a night's worth of content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and utilizing your pedagogical talents to help people learn 🙏
Wow, thanks! Glad my videos were helpful!
I’ve been binge watching your videos, I’ve learned a ton from them. With your easy going teaching style, you are the Bob Ross of GD&T. I’m half expecting you to say, let’s add a happy position reference over here lol.
Just adding a comment to make sure you know your video is out here helping people become better. Thank you for your expertise.
Dean, I'm blown away by these videos! Thank you
Thanks so much!
Thank you for what you do Dean! I learned a lot from your videos! keep it up!
Great to hear! Thanks so much.
I feel like more of a genius every new video
Great to hear! Thanks so much!
Great subjet, upgraded, expanded, and give me more vision of GD&T watching your videos. I appreciate your time and dedication.
Thanks so much! I always appreciate your comments.
As a student who is confused and has a test tomorrow morning this is amazing help
Happy to help, what school are you attending?
Amazing video as always Dean, keep up the great uploads !
Thanks a ton!
Hey, great Lessons, will watch as much videos from this channel as I can throughout this month!
Hope this videos will be great jumping board for learning about quality measurement.
Glad you like them! Thanks so much, I think I have about 100 videos on GD&T & QC
@@RDeanOdell You have more than enough ;)
Watched few of your videos.. love it. Keep coming!
Thanks so much!
hella fuckin fire music in the background
Probably my favorite comment ever. Thanks!
Hi Dean, I have a question for you, if you have a triangle part with a hole in the center, so while measuring on CMM how to create the 3 mutually perpendicular planes & how to locate the axis of the hole with the respective to A, B & C Datums?....in this triangle part I took, back face, bottom face and one of the angle side face as datums A,B,C....now how to generate the DRF frame
17:04 solution of your problem .provide datum A profile tolerance to 3 faces and datum B to flat mounting surface
I really enjoy learning from your videos. Maybe you could make one on measuring tubes with multiple bends. I always struggle aligning tubing on my CMM with intersection points for XYZ.
Thanks so much! In the next few months I will be updating my CMM videos. Can you provide any information on the parts you are measuring?
👍Excellent introductory video on Datums! Very much to the point and very comprehensible. Thank you.
Explained very neatly and in easy way. Thank you
Excellent ! Thanks a lot, professor. This is really helpful.
Thank you very much for your contribution for the betterment of industry.
Thank you so much!
At @22:15, can we say datum B is an axis at the center of the part or datum B is a mid plane in the indicated hole
Thanks, last one about multiple datums frames was a great example!
I also got a question about where you talked about the pattern and how we need to use the position instead of perpendicularity for datum B, which makes sense. However how do we tell manufacturer the actual position of the pattern itself (the relative location of holes in the pattern is clear and identified, but how do we specify how much the pattern should be up and down, and do we need another DRF to make that clear to machinist?) Kind of similar question to this is figure 4.9 of 2009 standard, it's not clear where datum B is, again relative positions are specified, but how does machinist know where to drill hole B to begin with, they only know it should be perpendicular to A. Thanks, and sorry for very long question 😅
Hi, great question! The short answer is to think of all the of the features being relative to the pattern of holes serving as a datum. Often this is a profile with a wide tolerance for areas that mate to air. Does this help?
@@RDeanOdell Yes! I Guess my conventional tolerancing mind was so used to drawings with part outside edges as datum; it makes sense now, thanks!
This stuff give me hope and confidence.Thanks a lot man🙏
Can you make a video over the terminology of which datums control what? For example, if a profile can control location, size, form, and orientation, and a call out has three datums, does the primary datum control the location and orientation, the secondary controls form, and what does the tertiary control? Or if it only had two datums called out, what does it mean to the machinist or manufacturer as to what is "more important" to the designer? Form and orientation and disregard location and size? Thank you for these videos!
14:00 does the MMC need to be applied always when we're specifing a geometric tolerance to a FOS? And if not, how does it change the message?
Great info .Could you do one on measuring perpendicularity? Thanks
Hi, I actually have a video about that already:
GD&T Inspection: Flatness, Parallelism and Profile
ua-cam.com/video/CpDU7NbkmBY/v-deo.html
Is there a difference between placing the datum on the dimension as opposed to on a surface on a cylindrical part? Is the datum an axis in both cases? API 6A shows the datum on the flange bore, but all the examples in ASME Y14.5 have the datum attached to the dimension. I expect it has the same meaning and this is just a matter of not enough space on the drawing as I can't think how else to constrain the part for inspection.
Great explanation,Thank you so much.
Please make more videos on gd&t.
Thank you! I am working on more videos presently.
Great work Sir!
Great video, this is super useful to bringing beginners up to speed.
Great to hear! Thanks!
12:45? A flatness on a feature of size? This seems more like an application for straightness. How do I inspect the flatness as you've drawn? Thanks
Thanks for your clear explanation. I think datum reference frame is the most important chapter in GD&T.
I have a question about setting hole pattern as datum. As you mentioned, the measurement origin is the center of those four holes.
How can I determine the orientation of this Datum Reference Frame on CMM? Can I choose any one of these holes for alignment?
Thankyou so much enjoyed the session throughout
Thanks for your great videos! I have a question:
At the pattern example the A datum confuses me, how can it be used for position of the hole pattern if A datum is the flat base as shown on your board?
I'm a bit confused. In a different datum video, you said we can't use flatness as a datum feature of size, but in this one, it is shown as an example for the middle depiction. Am I misinterpeting something? Or is there a rule that allows it?
Hi, it the other video I was showing ways to apply datum feature symbols to indicate the datum is a surface. A flatness applied to a DMP can be used as a datum, but it is not common. It is not ideal as a primary datum, it is difficult to simulate.
Thanks! Your videos are a great source of knowledge. Thank you for all your insight and explanations!!
Great explanation sir..Thank u
Thanks so much!
Is GD&T required for CAD product design? At what stage of product design would GD&T be most useful?
Hi, it’s not required. Some companies don’t use it at all. The thing is, the companies that do use it make it very important. It is used during the early design process in modeling parts, then in the drawing phase to document the design intent.
The drawing phase is not preceeded by the modeling parts phase? And by modeling parts, are you referring to creating them in a CAD program typically? I ask because I want to get into product , part design in CAD, particularly Solidworks but I want to approach learning the skill methodically and systemically without jumping ahead.
I have a question that can be datum located at id dimensioning, for hollow tube thanks.
Always the perfect content! Thanks a lot
You’re very welcome, thanks for watching & commenting!
In the last example you gave will it be alright to have open dim B/W datum B & D along with removing the profile control frame for datum D surface?
Can we call a datum to dimension of a hole directly.(so that the axis of the hole is the datum)
Hi,
Yes, an internal or external cylinder can be a datum feature. The axis of the actual mating envelope is the datum axis.
Thank you and
please make the video on position tolerance....
4:02 You didnt draw it on the wrong side. You position the piece backwards
Suggested topic from my side for your future videos...Let us say I have a rectangular part with a large 45 deg chamfer on one edge through which a hole is drilled. If that 45 deg(45 deg to horizontal) surface becomes my primary datum for the hole then how will my cartesian co-ordinates change & how will the basic dimension be used to locate the hole etc. Please amuse me by answering this Q.
Please do not ask me to put basic angle B/W axis of datum & the horizontal plane & provide angular geometric tolerance. I want to make sure that the chamfered surface is my primary datum for the hole so that I can ensure that hole is perpendicular to this surface.
Hi, I would make that chamfer surface the primary datum for whatever features exist there. So you would need more than one DRF. I’ll see what I can do about a video covering multiple DRFs.
@@RDeanOdell Thank you. Will look forward for the video.
@@RDeanOdell Great! After u make the chamfered surface as your primary datum could you please locate the feature on that surface with basic dimensions. Asking this as once primary datum is set the secondary & tertiary datums are at 90 degree to it. And we provide basic dim from datums and not datum features. Please show with an example if possible.
nice sir, thanks for the knowledge 👍
Thanks for watching!
thanks again Dr
Thanks so much!
What if I put Symbol at cylindrical surface, but not in line with dimension line? Is it even legal? And if yes, how to interpretate it? :)
Very nice sir
Thank you!
Hello Sir, I have Some questions, could you please clarify it.
1. Can it is compulsory to Show secondary and Territory Datum ? when we use to show Primary Datum ?
2. Can it is compulsory to show Feature Control Frame with Datums ?
3. Why we use Datum? can tolerance on dimension only can work ?
4. The Difference of AMSE vs ISO Standard for GD&T
looking forward to hear from you.
Thank you!
Hi, thanks for your question. I ask that you watch this video first, and then let me know if there are still areas you are unclear about.
Applying GD&T: 3 Basic Steps
ua-cam.com/video/LjACDWlNm04/v-deo.html
so much info here thank you
Welcome!
Dear sir I also want to gain knowledge like you in the field of GD&T and become like you.....what should I do to achieve that?
How datum B became a center plane at @5.46 , it just the other surface ?
he explained it later.@ 10.48
This is really helpful
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Nice !
Thanks!
Thanks for the info.
Thank you for watching!
Your voice is same as in the max payne game
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I'm still so confused. I hate adhd.
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Your practice part is from the Israeli Iron Dome. 😎