@@ChesneyDigital Nothing at the moment I have a guitar but I don't play it. I need guitar lessons I just love watching these guitar tutorial videos. I find them really interesting. I've always wanted to learn to play the guitar. But I do love that sound of the guitar though it sounds brilliant.
I just bought a 1445 on eBay for $250. I just need to rewind One pickup and install a tremolo bar. I can't stop thinking about this guitar and this video is making it even harder. It's like I'm in love!
Wow, $250?! That's a steal. How's the neck? Are you into the Mosrite sound, is that why you selected this guitar? If you're comfortable with winding your own pickup I recommend 11kohms as I read that's the resistance of an original Mosrite Mark 1 bridge pickup. You should make a video with it once you're done, can't wait to check it out!
Hey, that's a lefty version of my first guitar. It's like someone is watching my video selections and feeding me similar ones. Interesting. Same config same body. On a Righty the longer horn is on the top, meaning you modified a righty or those are extremely rare and valuable guitars. And Teisco didn't bother cutting a new body stricktly for lefties. This was my very first guitar purchase. I still have it Alvin. (TYA reference.) " rare genre of surf-punk-psychobilly-space-garage-rock. " I like it. Checking it out.
Thanks alot Jerald! I realize my fast-punk downstroking lacks the technical savvy of many guitarists out there right now playing fancy blues scales, but it's what I like and I'm honored that you dig it. My influences are bands like Link Wray, Deadbolt and of course Man or Astroman? (which most people have never even heard of) so naturally when I get ahold of that tremolo I almost wanna tear that sucker right off. Anyway thanks for your videos, can't wait to start trying a country sound.
Nice guitar, juicy playing. Dig it. I just picked up the 1445 at a consignment store here in Memphis for a little bit o'nothing. It is unreal, especially when plugged directly in to the Baldwin C-1 Professional I got at the same store. Huge sound, pure goodness.
Awesome!!! Thanks for the compliment! I hope you make a video so we can check out your sound. Are you using the middle or neck pickup? I've disabled mine, it'd be interesting to hear what kind've other sounds people get out of this magnificent treasure.
I had two of those 1445's during my lifetime and they always went missing somehow..... that guitar was like a secret weapon.. I don't think anyone has ever even tried to replicate it either.. I loved that flame top with the binding and the sailboat headstock. I got my first one trading a busted 4-track recorder for it and forgot what happened to it and got my 2nd one from ebay for I think like $500 (probably too much really) but it was MINT... pretty sure it was a sketchy mover that nabbed it :)
Howdy, Wayek! Thanks for the comment. You are correct, that no one has tried to replicate the 1445, it is indeed a secret weapon, even after all these years. Not even Eastwood guitars have ever mentioned the 1445. Which is odd because it it truly is a marvel of Japanese craftsmanship. It’s not too late to find one. I see they’re still going for around $600, still way less than a Mosrite or even Hallmark. What type of jams are you kicking out? I’ll check out your page
@ChesneyDigital The neck is one of the best I've ever felt. I love a thin neck and low action. Makes it real easy to effortlessly rip away across the board. I had an Epiphone Les Paul 100 before I got this. I know, huge improvement. It's like going from an old brick mobile phone to an iPhone 5. About the pickup, I just assumed I had to rewind it because that's what the seller said it needed but as I was cleaning it for the first time I pulled off the pick guard to take a look and the pickup looks absolutely fine. Then I noticed one wire had been disconnected. So all I have to do is solder it back on and that's it. Such a relief!
@ChesneyDigital Also, it looks like the second guitar you played is a modified teisco silvertone model 1441. Teisco started making these in late 1970. The differences between this and the 1445 are really only superficial. 1441 has a block style head with a block style logo, double inlay on the 12th fret, a fully colored neck, and no white lining around the body. I'm not sure how long they made these before they switched to making the "dot" silvertone. From everything I've read, I think they stopped making these in 1972.
Ok, I just got my hands on one of these beauties. In amazing shape. Has those same hound dog pickups. I think mine is Kawai made not Teisco. Was wondering how you got that tone from the first example. Mine sounds like a Jazzmaster or something. Really love the tone you achieved and would like my 1445 to sound like yours hahaha
So my 1441 is basically trash now because it needs to be re-fretted real bad and I had to use the tail piece for my 1445 because the tail piece on the 1445 was all chipped away where the screws go in. So I basically couldn't screw the tail piece in the 1445 without it popping off. My 1445 is amazing though. All original parts except that tail piece which is from a 1441. Even have the original case. I'm looking to get the pickups tapped so I can get that humbucker type thickness.
Cool! I have the same one as the first one on this video, except the headstock is different. And it’s not a lefty. More Gibson like with 3-side tuners and Canadian Silvertone logo (the block letter one). Got it new in 1970 from Sears.
That is awesome, you mean you had that guitar since the 1970’s? What have you been doing with it? Do you have a UA-cam channel with some jams on there that I can check out?
ChesneyDigital, Hey, yeah I remember buying it. I was 11 yrs old at the time (60 now). I’m restoring it, replacing the plastic pearloid fret markers with real pearl. I’ll be potting the pickups next since they aren’t potted yet. I have found replacement tremolo parts and brought it back to spec. It’s almost ready to go.
I owned one as my first electric guitar. I paid $50 for it. It was alright. I moved on to mostly Gibson guitars after that because I like their sound better.
Oh man the surf sounds!! This one does it perfectly and you sound great. Added to that, the guitar looks stunning. What amo are you using if u don't mind me asking? I heard in your other vid that yiu use an rp55, was that used as well here? Thanks!
Thanks alot Ronnie! I initially tried recording the output of a Fender Twin with a Shure SM57 but it was muffled and dull especially at high reverb settings. I was plenty happy though with the RP50's Fender Twin emulation which I'm using here on a custom setting sent to a behringer mixer for EQ adjustments then directly into a digi002 8 channel firewire pro tools interface. These Teisco pickups are cool but dull in comparison with the Mosrite Mark 1 bridge pickup, which to me has the sound I've always been looking for. Dana Moseley herself built me one during a a trip I took to Bakersfield CA & I am so proud of that. There is truly nothing like the authentic Mosrite sound.
I really love your video and watching it for nine months, searching since for a 1445. Thanks a lot for your detailed review - its incredible fantasic. What specific Fender strings do you use on the 1445 ?
Anna Log Hi there, thanks so much for your interest! Send me a link to your work, I'd love to check it out! I use fender "11" gauge strings always, no matter what. They come in a black box with a blue logo on the front. One thing I'd like to mention, if you're looking for a 1445, make sure it has the white banding around the body edges so you don't accidentally get a 1440 by mistake. They are completely different. What are you playing right now? I have an extra Teisco 1445 bridge pickup you could have if you want to experiment. I've swapped out all of my pickups and of course, only ever use the bridge pickup.
I was reading your blog about the man or astroman sound, and I was wondering if you have ever gotten a hallmark guitar and the difference with this one. I'm in between the hallmark custom 60 and this one and if I can save some money I would love to.
Piscine54 Hi, Thanks for the question, it is not an easy one to answer though I enjoy reminiscing. Before the Hallmark Starcrunch guitar came out, and due to a complete lack of online resources plus a decade of searching for the man or astroman guitar sound, I decided to drive out to Bakersfield California while in LA one year specifically to go to Front Porch Music as it was the only place in North America (I'd read) you could actually walk in and try a Mosrite. I explained my dilemma to the nice fellas over there (because let's face it, the original Silvertone/Teisco bridge pickup is muddled and crappy) So to my absolute shock they literally got on the phone, called Dana Moseley herself who was next door and had her bring over a Mark I bridge pickup she just finished hand winding. I am not kidding, it was like winning the lottery. THIS is why I did not get the Hallmark Custom 60- my Dana Moseley Mosrite Mark 1 bridge pickup was a dreammmm beyond belief. Afterwords I became so satisfied with my unique silvertone/mosrite combo that I decided this will be my sound forever. Looking forward I will no longer entertain any new guitar possibility except Mosrite. Their limited production makes them more expensive but after playing one at Front Porch it was obvious that they are worth the money. I just couldn't afford $5,000 for a guitar however. So what is the difference exactly? Well after playing Causey's Custom 60 during that Chicago show, I was torn but I will tell you, though I can't explain it there is something utterly superior about the Mosrite, and I think it lies in the hands of its maker. There is truly a blessing upon the Moseley family, their instruments a relic for you to connect to a level of creativity that comes from beyond our physical world. That is my personal opinion. As for the silvertone, I would stay far away from the 1440, it's the one without the binding. The scale length is shorter. If you do get a 1445, disable the pots and wire directly to the input jack. Good luck, keep in touch :)
Man, thanks so much for your detailed explanation. I know it's a way different guitar, but i ended up getting a Jag. In the future though I will reference this post.
I deleted my earlier comment because when I was going to buy it I found out about the jay turser MOSMAN mosrite copy. They have a zero fret, p90 pickups and a mahogany body. I know this will probably get me closer than the eastwood. I'm taking a gamble because there's not a lot of people with these guitars, but the people who have them love em.
Karl Chernoff I'm seeing a bunch of 1441's for sale right now on Ebay for some reason, but few have the slider volume controls. If not for the fact that I Frankensteined mine, I'd offer to sell it to you. There's something about the neck (shorter scale length maybe?) that's just not up to par with the 1445, and it just doesn't compare. I ended up putting that Dynasonic pickup in my Teisco made "Trump" hollowbody and it sounds much better in there. Not sure what I'll do with the 1441, was thinking of putting a Jazzmaster bridge pickup in there.
The slider was a Canadian only Sears Teisco model, I was given mine for Christmas in 1973. I just managed to score one out of southern Ontario this week in really great shape save save for a few nicks and bruises for $180. I'm pretty happy and it'll sit nicely beside the 1445 Funny back in the day they were considered goofy cheap Japanese guitars and people looked down on you if you had one...now they're considered cool and collectible.
You should check out the Fullerton copy of the Mosrite and Danelectro's new models that copy the solid body and semi hollow body Mosrite Clones - all for under $1000. This Silvertone does not match up at all other than the shape of the body.
Todd Bronnert I use NO pots! The pickup is soldered directly to the output jack. Do you want to know the real SECRET to the authentic Mosrite sound? It will shock and amuse you. It's the pickup of course but also and equally important...the ROLLERBRIDGE! It is designed with these metal nubs on the top which MUST be positioned so they are touching the bridge pickup! Soundwaves are transferred directly to the pickup housing this way. You can get a Mosrite style rollerbridge copy which is excellent on Ebay for $20!!! I have one as well as an authentic Mosrite bridge and they are almost identical!!!
I just realized that the second guitar is not a modified 1441. If you don't know yet, I've only heard it know as "The Slider" because of the sliding controls. Just researching silvertone mosrite slider should be enlightening.
@Lil Lepp Howdy! Thanks for your comments. I've tried researched the 1441/slider and there's virtually NO info about it's origin or purpose in the Teisco guitar line. I wonder WHY there's no serial number on these. What's even more intriguing is that NO ONE seems to play these guitars. Ever notice that? You come across Teisco Mosrite copies on Ebay every once in a while but never see anyone playing em' on Youtbe or anywhere online for that matter.
@ChesneyDigital I've actually found a model no. for the slider. I'm not sure but I get the feeling that the slider was only sold in Canada because most places I looked there were guys from Canada asking questions about their slider and because the model is no. 26133 from Simpson-Sears Limited. Simpson-Sears Limited was a partnership between Sears Roebuck and Company and the Robert Simpson Company in Canada. They only served the Canadian market. I still can't be sure if they only sold the Sliders in Canada and not the US but there's some new info for you. Also, I'm getting a new Silvertone 1445! Even comes with the original hard case! Very excited.
@ChesneyDigital Also, are you playing left handed? How did you get the 1445 like that because it looks like you're playing lefty but the guitar doesn't look backwards?
Lil Lepp LMAO- That's funny. I usually use the 8mm app on the iPhone to take videos with and for some reason (depending on how I hold it I guess) it flips the image horizontally. Sorry for the confusion. I always only play right-handed.
@LilLepp what a shame, but not really. The 1441 is kinda crappy compared to the 1445 anyway (no binding, shorter scale length). I had a similar situation, when I bought a seemingly flawless 1445 on Ebay then got it home and wouldt'ya know- the whole lower half of the neck's fret-wires were worn and buzzing despite the seller telling me "it plays great". After confronting this seller with an email, his only response was to offer a return if I paid for shipping. So now I'm saving up for a refret- gonna be like $250.00 and worth it
No amp- just a small, inexpensive Digitech RP50 effect pedal/processor which features Fender Twin cabinet emulation with custom eq, delay & gain settings. The main secret to the sound however is the bridge pickups which I list in the video. The pickups are positioned very close to the bridge itself which is a crucial to the setup, something that is rarely known. What kind've music are you playing, are you in a band?
+ChesneyDigital thats super cool then that its goin through digital cheapo fx and still its THAT sound!) Downstroking forever! Im playing in punk bands mostly but also do some surfish and hiphop stuff at home. And this is the best sound i have ever heard on youtube! I wish to reach that. I play us strat through sovtek amp and some fx but thats not it. Also waiting for finishing my fender tele with b6 bigsby. Any advice?
Tomas Novotny Hi Tomas sorry for the delayed response and thanks for the compliments. I am honored that someone appreciates the sound especially in light of the fact that 100% of the time now when I pull up next to any vehicle or see someone's iphone playlist it's some copy & paste justin beiberish electronic whining in autotune like a little bitch music, pardon the expression. It's one thing that drives my love of making films and great soundtrack music. I create in essence my own place far away from the poisonous world we live in, to a place that reflects the type of artistic beauty I enjoy rather than the harsh evil reality of the mainstream world around us. With that said,
Tomas Novotny I have noticed alot of people have and are playing telecasters. There is just something I do not like about them and I cannot quite explain what it is. Perhaps the ugly castrated headstock and the fat thick basic body shape. Or the ginormous wide neck and mountainous fretwires that are in direct opposition to the Mosrite design. I do not mean to offend you, the tele is a classic sound. I have never actually played one and my comments are just on the aesthetic (except the fretwires which mean high action) But why not experiment with different bridge and pickup? I would wanna try a rollerbridge and position it directly in back of an 11k bridge pickup like the M3 or Mosrite Mark1. You might be really surprised what you get!
Wow, been a long time since I was back here ha. Still have the 1445. Don’t play it much though cause I’ve melted the frets away with how much I played it. I’ve taken it to two different Guitar repair guys in my area for a re-fret and they both seem too scared to do it because of the unique neck binding they tell me. Also, they may not be telling me but I think they don’t want to spend time and effort of a re-fret on a cheaper Guitar. Not sure why they care about that. They’re getting paid $400 for a re-fret no matter if it’s a Les Paul or a old Silvertone so what’s the big deal? Last thing, the sustain is completely gone. There’s is literally no sustain in any note played on the guitar. Something new frets would help with but, again, no one will do it.
@Zepp Howdy!! Sorry to hear about the tradgedy of your Silvertone frets wow! I had the same issue, can you believe it? So get this, the neck on my first 1445 was bent, I just dealt with it until I had enough and bought another 1445 that was supposed to "play great". But instead the frets were super worn and there was no sustain, tons of buzzing on certain frets. So I took it in, like you did. Both places said OK to a refret, at a cost of $250. They were clearly interested in working on this type of guitar. Unlike the place you went. So your quote of $400 seems more like a "well I don't really feel like doing this so I'll just overcharge" situation. Outrageous! I made sure to speak IN PERSON to the guitar techs at both shops, who assured me they understood how to install low action frets like these. But instead of going with a refret however, my lovely wife was on Ebay and just so happened to come accross a THIRD 1445 that was being sold as near mint. So well gee I just couldn't resist and took a chance and it turned out to be almost like new. Then came the whole Dana Mosely at Front Porch music situation and I've been playing the new 1445 with her Mark 1 bridge pickup ever since. You'll be able to hear it on the soundtrack to my new 16mm short film "Wind Of Dissent", it'll be my first upload in years. Coming soon! So I hope you don't give up- The Silvertone 1445 has a stand alone sound and history that is marvellous and unique. You CAN get a refret, believe me. Or keep looking on Ebay! I'm teling you, find one that has a good rating and can be returned. Most people have no idea how awesome this guitar is so it is still a hidden gem!
@killbabykill Indeed, I cannot stand standard tuning. I simply tune down until I think it sounds good, it's not "drop D" or anything. I love dropping it super low on the 1440, almost to the point of being loose- it has a real Piltdown men sound, like on "gargantua". I also have a Danelectro baritone and even it's sound doesn't come close to the tuned down 1440.
This is some killer playing and the guitar sounds great
Wow I love that sound of the guitar, awesome 😎 🤘 🎸
Thanks a lot Christopher! What have you been doing with your guitar sound?
@@ChesneyDigital Nothing at the moment I have a guitar but I don't play it. I need guitar lessons I just love watching these guitar tutorial videos. I find them really interesting. I've always wanted to learn to play the guitar. But I do love that sound of the guitar though it sounds brilliant.
I just bought a 1445 on eBay for $250. I just need to rewind One pickup and install a tremolo bar. I can't stop thinking about this guitar and this video is making it even harder. It's like I'm in love!
Wow, $250?! That's a steal. How's the neck? Are you into the Mosrite sound, is that why you selected this guitar? If you're comfortable with winding your own pickup I recommend 11kohms as I read that's the resistance of an original Mosrite Mark 1 bridge pickup. You should make a video with it once you're done, can't wait to check it out!
Really really good, from start to finish. Thank you
Hey, that's a lefty version of my first guitar. It's like someone is watching my video selections and feeding me similar ones. Interesting. Same config same body. On a Righty the longer horn is on the top, meaning you modified a righty or those are extremely rare and valuable guitars. And Teisco didn't bother cutting a new body stricktly for lefties. This was my very first guitar purchase. I still have it Alvin. (TYA reference.) " rare genre of surf-punk-psychobilly-space-garage-rock. " I like it. Checking it out.
Thanks alot Jerald! I realize my fast-punk downstroking lacks the technical savvy of many guitarists out there right now playing fancy blues scales, but it's what I like and I'm honored that you dig it. My influences are bands like Link Wray, Deadbolt and of course Man or Astroman? (which most people have never even heard of) so naturally when I get ahold of that tremolo I almost wanna tear that sucker right off. Anyway thanks for your videos, can't wait to start trying a country sound.
Can you talk about your setup after the guitar?
Amp model
Settings
Pedals if any?
Those pickups sounds amazing
Nice guitar, juicy playing. Dig it. I just picked up the 1445 at a consignment store here in Memphis for a little bit o'nothing. It is unreal, especially when plugged directly in to the Baldwin C-1 Professional I got at the same store. Huge sound, pure goodness.
Awesome!!! Thanks for the compliment! I hope you make a video so we can check out your sound. Are you using the middle or neck pickup? I've disabled mine, it'd be interesting to hear what kind've other sounds people get out of this magnificent treasure.
I had two of those 1445's during my lifetime and they always went missing somehow..... that guitar was like a secret weapon.. I don't think anyone has ever even tried to replicate it either.. I loved that flame top with the binding and the sailboat headstock. I got my first one trading a busted 4-track recorder for it and forgot what happened to it and got my 2nd one from ebay for I think like $500 (probably too much really) but it was MINT... pretty sure it was a sketchy mover that nabbed it :)
Howdy, Wayek! Thanks for the comment. You are correct, that no one has tried to replicate the 1445, it is indeed a secret weapon, even after all these years. Not even Eastwood guitars have ever mentioned the 1445. Which is odd because it it truly is a marvel of Japanese craftsmanship. It’s not too late to find one. I see they’re still going for around $600, still way less than a Mosrite or even Hallmark. What type of jams are you kicking out? I’ll check out your page
@ChesneyDigital
The neck is one of the best I've ever felt. I love a thin neck and low action. Makes it real easy to effortlessly rip away across the board. I had an Epiphone Les Paul 100 before I got this. I know, huge improvement. It's like going from an old brick mobile phone to an iPhone 5. About the pickup, I just assumed I had to rewind it because that's what the seller said it needed but as I was cleaning it for the first time I pulled off the pick guard to take a look and the pickup looks absolutely fine. Then I noticed one wire had been disconnected. So all I have to do is solder it back on and that's it. Such a relief!
@ChesneyDigital
Also, it looks like the second guitar you played is a modified teisco silvertone model 1441. Teisco started making these in late 1970. The differences between this and the 1445 are really only superficial. 1441 has a block style head with a block style logo, double inlay on the 12th fret, a fully colored neck, and no white lining around the body. I'm not sure how long they made these before they switched to making the "dot" silvertone. From everything I've read, I think they stopped making these in 1972.
Ok, I just got my hands on one of these beauties. In amazing shape. Has those same hound dog pickups. I think mine is Kawai made not Teisco. Was wondering how you got that tone from the first example. Mine sounds like a Jazzmaster or something. Really love the tone you achieved and would like my 1445 to sound like yours hahaha
I have a digitech rp360 what were your settings for the rp 50?
So my 1441 is basically trash now because it needs to be re-fretted real bad and I had to use the tail piece for my 1445 because the tail piece on the 1445 was all chipped away where the screws go in. So I basically couldn't screw the tail piece in the 1445 without it popping off. My 1445 is amazing though. All original parts except that tail piece which is from a 1441. Even have the original case. I'm looking to get the pickups tapped so I can get that humbucker type thickness.
Cool! I have the same one as the first one on this video, except the headstock is different. And it’s not a lefty. More Gibson like with 3-side tuners and Canadian Silvertone logo (the block letter one). Got it new in 1970 from Sears.
That is awesome, you mean you had that guitar since the 1970’s? What have you been doing with it? Do you have a UA-cam channel with some jams on there that I can check out?
ChesneyDigital, Hey, yeah I remember buying it. I was 11 yrs old at the time (60 now). I’m restoring it, replacing the plastic pearloid fret markers with real pearl. I’ll be potting the pickups next since they aren’t potted yet. I have found replacement tremolo parts and brought it back to spec. It’s almost ready to go.
I owned one as my first electric guitar. I paid $50 for it. It was alright. I moved on to mostly Gibson guitars after that because I like their sound better.
Oh man the surf sounds!! This one does it perfectly and you sound great. Added to that, the guitar looks stunning. What amo are you using if u don't mind me asking? I heard in your other vid that yiu use an rp55, was that used as well here? Thanks!
Thanks alot Ronnie! I initially tried recording the output of a Fender Twin with a Shure SM57 but it was muffled and dull especially at high reverb settings. I was plenty happy though with the RP50's Fender Twin emulation which I'm using here on a custom setting sent to a behringer mixer for EQ adjustments then directly into a digi002 8 channel firewire pro tools interface. These Teisco pickups are cool but dull in comparison with the Mosrite Mark 1 bridge pickup, which to me has the sound I've always been looking for. Dana Moseley herself built me one during a a trip I took to Bakersfield CA & I am so proud of that. There is truly nothing like the authentic Mosrite sound.
I really love your video and watching it for nine months, searching since for a 1445. Thanks a lot for your detailed review - its incredible fantasic. What specific Fender strings do you use on the 1445 ?
Anna Log Hi there, thanks so much for your interest! Send me a link to your work, I'd love to check it out! I use fender "11" gauge strings always, no matter what. They come in a black box with a blue logo on the front. One thing I'd like to mention, if you're looking for a 1445, make sure it has the white banding around the body edges so you don't accidentally get a 1440 by mistake. They are completely different. What are you playing right now? I have an extra Teisco 1445 bridge pickup you could have if you want to experiment. I've swapped out all of my pickups and of course, only ever use the bridge pickup.
I was reading your blog about the man or astroman sound, and I was wondering if you have ever gotten a hallmark guitar and the difference with this one. I'm in between the hallmark custom 60 and this one and if I can save some money I would love to.
Piscine54 Hi, Thanks for the question, it is not an easy one to answer though I enjoy reminiscing. Before the Hallmark Starcrunch guitar came out, and due to a complete lack of online resources plus a decade of searching for the man or astroman guitar sound, I decided to drive out to Bakersfield California while in LA one year specifically to go to Front Porch Music as it was the only place in North America (I'd read) you could actually walk in and try a Mosrite. I explained my dilemma to the nice fellas over there (because let's face it, the original Silvertone/Teisco bridge pickup is muddled and crappy) So to my absolute shock they literally got on the phone, called Dana Moseley herself who was next door and had her bring over a Mark I bridge pickup she just finished hand winding. I am not kidding, it was like winning the lottery. THIS is why I did not get the Hallmark Custom 60- my Dana Moseley Mosrite Mark 1 bridge pickup was a dreammmm beyond belief. Afterwords I became so satisfied with my unique silvertone/mosrite combo that I decided this will be my sound forever. Looking forward I will no longer entertain any new guitar possibility except Mosrite. Their limited production makes them more expensive but after playing one at Front Porch it was obvious that they are worth the money. I just couldn't afford $5,000 for a guitar however. So what is the difference exactly? Well after playing Causey's Custom 60 during that Chicago show, I was torn but I will tell you, though I can't explain it there is something utterly superior about the Mosrite, and I think it lies in the hands of its maker. There is truly a blessing upon the Moseley family, their instruments a relic for you to connect to a level
of creativity that comes from beyond our physical world. That is my personal opinion. As for the silvertone, I would stay far away from the 1440, it's the one without the binding. The scale length is shorter. If you do get a 1445, disable the pots and wire directly to the input jack. Good luck, keep in touch :)
Man, thanks so much for your detailed explanation. I know it's a way different guitar, but i ended up getting a Jag. In the future though I will reference this post.
I deleted my earlier comment because when I was going to buy it I found out about the jay turser MOSMAN mosrite copy. They have a zero fret, p90 pickups and a mahogany body. I know this will probably get me closer than the eastwood. I'm taking a gamble because there's not a lot of people with these guitars, but the people who have them love em.
If anyone knows of a "slider" for sale please contact me, it's part of my bucket list as the slider was my first guitar so many years ago.
Karl Chernoff I'm seeing a bunch of 1441's for sale right now on Ebay for some reason, but few have the slider volume controls. If not for the fact that I Frankensteined mine, I'd offer to sell it to you. There's something about the neck (shorter scale length maybe?) that's just not up to par with the 1445, and it just doesn't compare. I ended up putting that Dynasonic pickup in my Teisco made "Trump" hollowbody and it sounds much better in there. Not sure what I'll do with the 1441, was thinking of putting a Jazzmaster bridge pickup in there.
The slider was a Canadian only Sears Teisco model, I was given mine for Christmas in 1973. I just managed to score one out of southern Ontario this week in really great shape save save for a few nicks and bruises for $180. I'm pretty happy and it'll sit nicely beside the 1445 Funny back in the day they were considered goofy cheap Japanese guitars and people looked down on you if you had one...now they're considered cool and collectible.
You should check out the Fullerton copy of the Mosrite and Danelectro's new models that copy the solid body and semi hollow body Mosrite Clones - all for under $1000. This Silvertone does not match up at all other than the shape of the body.
i have the m3 bridge and it does not sound like that at all what pots are you using
Todd Bronnert I use NO pots! The pickup is soldered directly to the output jack. Do you want to know the real SECRET to the authentic Mosrite sound? It will shock and amuse you. It's the pickup of course but also and equally important...the ROLLERBRIDGE! It is designed with these metal nubs on the top which MUST be positioned so they are touching the bridge pickup! Soundwaves are transferred directly to the pickup housing this way. You can get a Mosrite style rollerbridge copy which is excellent on Ebay for $20!!! I have one as well as an authentic Mosrite bridge and they are almost identical!!!
Are you tuned down on these?
So many rare guitars and left handed toooo .
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I just realized that the second guitar is not a modified 1441. If you don't know yet, I've only heard it know as "The Slider" because of the sliding controls. Just researching silvertone mosrite slider should be enlightening.
@Lil Lepp Howdy! Thanks for your comments. I've tried researched the 1441/slider and there's virtually NO info about it's origin or purpose in the Teisco guitar line. I wonder WHY there's no serial number on these. What's even more intriguing is that NO ONE seems to play these guitars. Ever notice that? You come across Teisco Mosrite copies on Ebay every once in a while but never see anyone playing em' on Youtbe or anywhere online for that matter.
@ChesneyDigital
I've actually found a model no. for the slider. I'm not sure but I get the feeling that the slider was only sold in Canada because most places I looked there were guys from Canada asking questions about their slider and because the model is no. 26133 from Simpson-Sears Limited. Simpson-Sears Limited was a partnership between Sears Roebuck and Company and the Robert Simpson Company in Canada. They only served the Canadian market. I still can't be sure if they only sold the Sliders in Canada and not the US but there's some new info for you. Also, I'm getting a new Silvertone 1445! Even comes with the original hard case! Very excited.
@ChesneyDigital
Also, are you playing left handed? How did you get the 1445 like that because it looks like you're playing lefty but the guitar doesn't look backwards?
Lil Lepp
LMAO- That's funny. I usually use the 8mm app on the iPhone to take videos with and for some reason (depending on how I hold it I guess) it flips the image horizontally. Sorry for the confusion. I always only play right-handed.
@LilLepp what a shame, but not really. The 1441 is kinda crappy compared to the 1445 anyway (no binding, shorter scale length). I had a similar situation, when I bought a seemingly flawless 1445 on Ebay then got it home and wouldt'ya know- the whole lower half of the neck's fret-wires were worn and buzzing despite the seller telling me "it plays great". After confronting this seller with an email, his only response was to offer a return if I paid for shipping. So now I'm saving up for a refret- gonna be like $250.00 and worth it
Please can you tell whats the amp and setup?? Thanks!!)
No amp- just a small, inexpensive Digitech RP50 effect pedal/processor which features Fender Twin cabinet emulation with custom eq, delay & gain settings. The main secret to the sound however is the bridge pickups which I list in the video. The pickups are positioned very close to the bridge itself which is a crucial to the setup, something that is rarely known. What kind've music are you playing, are you in a band?
+ChesneyDigital thats super cool then that its goin through digital cheapo fx and still its THAT sound!) Downstroking forever! Im playing in punk bands mostly but also do some surfish and hiphop stuff at home. And this is the best sound i have ever heard on youtube! I wish to reach that. I play us strat through sovtek amp and some fx but thats not it. Also waiting for finishing my fender tele with b6 bigsby. Any advice?
Tomas Novotny Hi Tomas sorry for the delayed response and thanks for the compliments. I am honored that someone appreciates the sound especially in light of the fact that 100% of the time now when I pull up next to any vehicle or see someone's iphone playlist it's some copy & paste justin beiberish electronic whining in autotune like a little bitch music, pardon the expression. It's one thing that drives my love of making films and great soundtrack music. I create in essence my own place far away from the poisonous world we live in, to a place that reflects the type of artistic beauty I enjoy rather than the harsh evil reality of the mainstream world around us. With that said,
Tomas Novotny I have noticed alot of people have and are playing telecasters. There is just something I do not like about them and I cannot quite explain what it is. Perhaps the ugly castrated headstock and the fat thick basic body shape. Or the ginormous wide neck and mountainous fretwires that are in direct opposition to the Mosrite design. I do not mean to offend you, the tele is a classic sound. I have never actually played one and my comments are just on the aesthetic (except the fretwires which mean high action) But why not experiment with different bridge and pickup? I would wanna try a rollerbridge and position it directly in back of an 11k bridge pickup like the M3 or Mosrite Mark1. You might be really surprised what you get!
Wow, been a long time since I was back here ha. Still have the 1445. Don’t play it much though cause I’ve melted the frets away with how much I played it. I’ve taken it to two different Guitar repair guys in my area for a re-fret and they both seem too scared to do it because of the unique neck binding they tell me. Also, they may not be telling me but I think they don’t want to spend time and effort of a re-fret on a cheaper Guitar. Not sure why they care about that. They’re getting paid $400 for a re-fret no matter if it’s a Les Paul or a old Silvertone so what’s the big deal? Last thing, the sustain is completely gone. There’s is literally no sustain in any note played on the guitar. Something new frets would help with but, again, no one will do it.
@Zepp Howdy!! Sorry to hear about the tradgedy of your Silvertone frets wow! I had the same issue, can you believe it? So get this, the neck on my first 1445 was bent, I just dealt with it until I had enough and bought another 1445 that was supposed to "play great". But instead the frets were super worn and there was no sustain, tons of buzzing on certain frets. So I took it in, like you did. Both places said OK to a refret, at a cost of $250. They were clearly interested in working on this type of guitar. Unlike the place you went. So your quote of $400 seems more like a "well I don't really feel like doing this so I'll just overcharge" situation. Outrageous! I made sure to speak IN PERSON to the guitar techs at both shops, who assured me they understood how to install low action frets like these. But instead of going with a refret however, my lovely wife was on Ebay and just so happened to come accross a THIRD 1445 that was being sold as near mint. So well gee I just couldn't resist and took a chance and it turned out to be almost like new. Then came the whole Dana Mosely at Front Porch music situation and I've been playing the new 1445 with her Mark 1 bridge pickup ever since. You'll be able to hear it on the soundtrack to my new 16mm short film "Wind Of Dissent", it'll be my first upload in years. Coming soon! So I hope you don't give up- The Silvertone 1445 has a stand alone sound and history that is marvellous and unique. You CAN get a refret, believe me. Or keep looking on Ebay! I'm teling you, find one that has a good rating and can be returned. Most people have no idea how awesome this guitar is so it is still a hidden gem!
@killbabykill Indeed, I cannot stand standard tuning. I simply tune down until I think it sounds good, it's not "drop D" or anything. I love dropping it super low on the 1440, almost to the point of being loose- it has a real Piltdown men sound, like on "gargantua". I also have a Danelectro baritone and even it's sound doesn't come close to the tuned down 1440.