He says that you generally need 7 attackers to each defender in order to make progress. He surmises that the British will need 40,000 troops to retake the islands. He must have had a nasty shock then to see that the British did this with far less and that troop quality really does count! Conscripts who hadn't acclimatised would obviously be no match for regular troops.
@@ejcmoorhouse yes I said that troop quality really does count. A smaller force of well trained and experienced troops are not equal to a larger conscription force
I was 16 when this happened. I miss the days of world news reported by adults. In a few short months after this was filmed most of these Argie geezers were unemployed.
The mentality the British have is go for it watch what happens argies are not a fighting people the Brits have a ruthless desire ,8000 miles from uk no proper air cover won quickly really 10,000 argie troops against 6,000 brits and they surrendered lost every land battle
They shot at British troops after flying the white flag, they painted the RED CROSS signs on buildings in Port Stanley where the officers were billeted, and others where munitions were stored, , they shot at British planes from their hospital ship, they used the post office as a toilet, they positioned artillery pieces amongst houses and the school, they bombed a marked field hospital in San Carlos, need i go any further?
This film is starting from after the Argentinian invasion of the islands. Just so you know. The film also shows something that I didn't know. At the time I was unaware of why the Brittish Navy wasn't able to deter the Argentinian dictater from invading in the first place. I did not know that the Brittish Navy at that time was being severely underfunded. I think that that probably emboldened the dictater to invade. At any rate, when I saw the news reports on the dictater's invasion of the islands I knew that it would not be allowed to stand. I knew that it would never end well for the dictater or his invasion force. He was starting up with one of the victors in two world wars. If not outright lunacy, it was certainly willful self delusion to think that Britain would not respond, and respond effectively. And I knew that there could only be one outcome. The dictater chose the wrong country to mess with.
That is part of the problem of the open discussion in newspapers and television about the cutting of funding of the Royal Navy. The argument and counter-arguments are always a bit exxagerated. And the outside view (from for example the Argentinians, but also the Sovjet) can lead to a conclusion that the Navy is on the brink of collapse.
Quite frustrating to see comments based on years old propaganda. It was not a matter of conscripts and all that. The Argentine were encouraged to recover the islands from the US, then they became entangled, they could not back off. The logistics were never really prepared or taken care of because the higher command did not expect the war to happen. The tactics were shit, etc. And the guy said you will need 40k to take over the islands and you are going to lose many ships. He was right about the ships. If anybody has any doubts about my claims, check "No Picnic by Julian Thompson and 100 Days by Sandy Woodward. Regarding the US encouraging Argentina, there is information in Spanish from Nicolas Kasanzew and also interview with Galtieri's son.
@@charlesharper2357 the point of Ms Cornwallis is the Argentinian claim over the islands because they are closer to them than Britain is stupid. Otherwise, Malaysia owns Singapore, Australia owns New Zealand and the USA owns cuba.
no American troops planes or ships or nato troops fact argies had marines pro and had 10,000 troops brits had 6,000 troops and had less ammo and still won fact :)
@@mariacornwallis1602 No es una teoría... todo el mundo sabe la ayuda que proporcionó Estados Unidos a Gran Bretaña... a pesar del TIAR. Shame on you United States!
@@alexm7743 Sí, es bastante natural que los países con buen comportamiento se ayuden mutuamente contra los países agresores, como la Alemania nazi, Japón y ahora Argentina
Ive always thought the UK’s security is as important to US Security as Israel or Egypt and possibly we need to offer the Brits 3 billion a year to help with the expense of protecting not only the UK sea lanes and Europe. 🇬🇧and 🇺🇸
En ese momento, las fuerzas armadas británicas estaban dirigidas por un general que había luchado en Normandía contra la Wehrmacht, un almirante que había luchado en la Batalla del Cabo Norte y un mariscal aéreo jefe que había estado sobre Berlín diez veces en Lancaster. dirigido por un almirante como jefe de personal que había estado en los convoyes malteses. Es difícil pensar en una decisión más tonta que luchar contra hombres así, que en última instancia fueron respaldados por políticos. Habiendo dicho todo eso, los comandantes argentinos tenían cierta experiencia en disparar contra manifestantes, sindicalistas y comunistas; y arrojar a 30.000 civiles argentinos desde un helicóptero al océano Atlántico ... Pero nadie que pudiera defenderse At the time, the British armed forces were led by a general who had fought in Normandy against the Wehrmacht, an admiral who had fought in the Battle of the North Cape, and a chief air marshal who had been over Berlin ten times in Lancaster. led by an admiral as chief of staff who had been in the Maltese convoys. It's hard to think of a more foolish decision than to fight men like that, who were ultimately backed by politicians. Having said all that the Argntine commanders did have some experience in shooting demonstrators, trade unionists and communists; and dropping 30,000 argentine civilians from a helicopter into the Atlantic Ocean.... But nobody who could fight back
The Bismarck was threatening the supplies across the Atlantic, and if the st nazaire raid hadn't been done by the royal navy and British commandos the tirpitz would have been the same threat. Besides in a general war, warships are a threat, to keep the tirpitz trapped in Norway, the royal navy had to use valuable ships needed elsewhere, sink the tirpitz and suddenly you can give them ships something else to do.
@@theant9821 I agree with everything you state... I am having a go at all the libera, wishy washy, tree huggers that state that the General Belgrano was no threat at the time of it's sinking
@@mariacornwallis1602 the commanding officer of the belgrano said Britain was well within its rights to sink the belgrano and wise to do so as the were preparing for an offensive with it.
The real shock for Argentina was the sinking of the Belgrano, and in war there are no rules if someone sees a threat. That act sent the Argentine carrier scurrying back to port and any chance of a victory was lost. Add to that a professional army despite terrible conditions and hardships to get there, and put them up against thousands of conscripts, and there will only be one winner. The 99.9 per cent of islands who still want to be British are now protected properly by a garrison. There will be no Falklands War 2 thankfully. Galtieri in trouble at home thought winning the Falklands would make him popular... In the end he sent hundreds of his serviceman to their deaths, killed thousands of his own people in clampdowns and corruption and left it financially and militarily broke.
Why do these Spaniards refer to Britain as England when it is abundantly clear that the nation state is the UK of Great Britain & Northern Ireland? Many Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish fought in all services in that conflict. I myself alone went to school with four Scots that fought in that war. Why do people continue to refer to Britain as England? Britain never was & never will be, England. Ignoramuses!
Well you got all those predictions wrong!Your navy commanded by the instigator of the invasion failed miserably and you sent unprepared and poorly led conscripts to fight a professional military.Only your airforce performed well.
got your ass kicked u prick." held back on weaponry", laughed myself to sleep. we came 8 thousand miles and beat you in your backyard. you were too busy fucking eachother
@Antonin Artaud Cobardes ¿Quieres decir como tú que viniste por la noche para atacar una isla básicamente indefensa y encarcelaron a sus habitantes? ¿Quién pintó CRUCES ROJAS en los edificios utilizados para almacenar municiones y armas para que la RAF no los bombardeara? ¿Quién usaba las casas de los isleños como baños? ¿Quién colocó su artillería en la ciudad entre los civiles? ¿Quién disparó a los soldados británicos después de que usted ondeó una bandera blanca de rendición? ¿Quiénes permitieron que sus hombres pasaran hambre y frío mientras estaban seguros y calientes en Stanley? ¿La Armada de quién corrió a casa y se escondió en el puerto durante todo el conflicto? ¿ESOS COBARDES? ¡No volverás, ambos lo sabemos! Cowards ? You mean like you who came in the night to attack a basically undefended island and imprisoned it's inhabitants? Who painted RED CROSSES on buildings used to store ammunition and weapons So that the RAF wouldn't bomb it ? Who used islanders' homes as toilets ? Who positioned their artillery in town amongst civilians ? Who shot British soldiers after you waved a White Flag of surrender ? Whose officers allowed their men to suffer hunger and cold whilst they were safe and warm in Stanley ? Whose Navy ran home and hid in port for the whole conflict ? THOSE COWARDS? You won't be back we both know it !!
He says that you generally need 7 attackers to each defender in order to make progress. He surmises that the British will need 40,000 troops to retake the islands. He must have had a nasty shock then to see that the British did this with far less and that troop quality really does count! Conscripts who hadn't acclimatised would obviously be no match for regular troops.
That is a very simple way of working out force ratio, other factors such as training and equipement is more important than just numbers of troops.
@@ejcmoorhouse yes I said that troop quality really does count. A smaller force of well trained and experienced troops are not equal to a larger conscription force
Very true just like shooting fish in a barrel for the uk !
British teaching is attackers should have a 3:1 superiority to achieve success assuming equal quality of troops and equipment.
And they honestly didn't think we would fight..... Now that's a plan..... The only one they had.
I was 16 when this happened. I miss the days of world news reported by adults. In a few short months after this was filmed most of these Argie geezers were unemployed.
When you can’t defend an island that’s on your doorstep from a small island 8000 miles away, you know you’re shit.
From the very beginning of the conflict, everybody knew in advance who is going to win the war.
"We will fight to the last man" he says 400 miles away. It is why they lost. Officers were never on the front line (except the pilots).
Spot on, "we'll be right behind you lads, about 400 miles right behind you to be precise" 🤣🤣🤣🐓
They were a tin pot country! Victory for the uk was NEVER in doubt!
They chanced their arm & lost.
They underestimated the resolve of Mrs Thatcher. They believed she would crumble . How wrong they were .
Jelly and ice cream the witch is fucking dead and she fucked the UK more than Argentina ever did.
@@hernan5940 history will prove eventually that she rebuilt " the sick man of Europe " . She was simply amazing.
@@duncanbull959Jelly and ice cream
They overestimated themselves.
Good old Maggie
It's dangerous to underestimate the skills of the Royal Navy
the same thing sank the hms invincible, with an exocet missile, greetings from argentina...
Thanks to the Falkland conflict, it led to the downfall of the Argentinian Military Junta, and returned democracy and freedom to Argentina.
This aged well
The mentality the British have is go for it watch what happens argies are not a fighting people the Brits have a ruthless desire ,8000 miles from uk no proper air cover won quickly really 10,000 argie troops against 6,000 brits and they surrendered lost every land battle
Never underestimate the British worked with them they are prepared to fight to the absolute death and pretty much enjoy it .
@@-DC- Yep, Korea, Malaya, Borneo, etc
They shot at British troops after flying the white flag, they painted the RED CROSS signs on buildings in Port Stanley where the officers were billeted, and others where munitions were stored, , they shot at British planes from their hospital ship, they used the post office as a toilet, they positioned artillery pieces amongst houses and the school, they bombed a marked field hospital in San Carlos, need i go any further?
This film is starting from after the Argentinian invasion of the islands. Just so you know. The film also shows something that I didn't know. At the time I was unaware of why the Brittish Navy wasn't able to deter the Argentinian dictater from invading in the first place. I did not know that the Brittish Navy at that time was being severely underfunded. I think that that probably emboldened the dictater to invade.
At any rate, when I saw the news reports on the dictater's invasion of the islands I knew that it would not be allowed to stand. I knew that it would never end well for the dictater or his invasion force. He was starting up with one of the victors in two world wars. If not outright lunacy, it was certainly willful self delusion to think that Britain would not respond, and respond effectively. And I knew that there could only be one outcome. The dictater chose the wrong country to mess with.
That is part of the problem of the open discussion in newspapers and television about the cutting of funding of the Royal Navy. The argument and counter-arguments are always a bit exxagerated. And the outside view (from for example the Argentinians, but also the Sovjet) can lead to a conclusion that the Navy is on the brink of collapse.
None of this aged very well did it. Got absolutely smashed and humiliated. xD
Look up the song ‘Buenos Aires’ by the Macc Lads if you want a laugh
Quite frustrating to see comments based on years old propaganda. It was not a matter of conscripts and all that. The Argentine were encouraged to recover the islands from the US, then they became entangled, they could not back off. The logistics were never really prepared or taken care of because the higher command did not expect the war to happen. The tactics were shit, etc. And the guy said you will need 40k to take over the islands and you are going to lose many ships. He was right about the ships. If anybody has any doubts about my claims, check "No Picnic by Julian Thompson and 100 Days by Sandy Woodward. Regarding the US encouraging Argentina, there is information in Spanish from Nicolas Kasanzew and also interview with Galtieri's son.
Malaysia is planning to invade Singapore because it is nearby
Well Asean happened
Actually Malaysia kicked Singapore out.
@@charlesharper2357 You obviously don't understand what I am saying
@@mariacornwallis1602
That's because you're as clear as mud :-)
@@charlesharper2357 the point of Ms Cornwallis is the Argentinian claim over the islands because they are closer to them than Britain is stupid. Otherwise, Malaysia owns Singapore, Australia owns New Zealand and the USA owns cuba.
It'll take 40000 men to retake the islands.
Sound, we'll send the paras and the marines with a few guards and Gurkhas, meet you in stanley...
Should always have Ghurkas on the Falklands.
Sad for those poor conscripts, no matter how numerous they had no chance against professional Royal Marines and paratroopers.
Royal Marines and paratroopers and United States help and NATO help...
no American troops planes or ships or nato troops fact argies had marines pro and had 10,000 troops brits had 6,000 troops and had less ammo and still won fact :)
@@alexm7743 What? Please explain that theory of yours?
@@mariacornwallis1602 No es una teoría... todo el mundo sabe la ayuda que proporcionó Estados Unidos a Gran Bretaña... a pesar del TIAR. Shame on you United States!
@@alexm7743 Sí, es bastante natural que los países con buen comportamiento se ayuden mutuamente contra los países agresores, como la Alemania nazi, Japón y ahora Argentina
Ive always thought the UK’s security is as important to US Security as Israel or Egypt and possibly we need to offer the Brits 3 billion a year to help with the expense of protecting not only the UK sea lanes and Europe. 🇬🇧and 🇺🇸
En ese momento, las fuerzas armadas británicas estaban dirigidas por un general que había luchado en Normandía contra la Wehrmacht, un almirante que había luchado en la Batalla del Cabo Norte y un mariscal aéreo jefe que había estado sobre Berlín diez veces en Lancaster. dirigido por un almirante como jefe de personal que había estado en los convoyes malteses. Es difícil pensar en una decisión más tonta que luchar contra hombres así, que en última instancia fueron respaldados por políticos.
Habiendo dicho todo eso, los comandantes argentinos tenían cierta experiencia en disparar contra manifestantes, sindicalistas y comunistas; y arrojar a 30.000 civiles argentinos desde un helicóptero al océano Atlántico ... Pero nadie que pudiera defenderse
At the time, the British armed forces were led by a general who had fought in Normandy against the Wehrmacht, an admiral who had fought in the Battle of the North Cape, and a chief air marshal who had been over Berlin ten times in Lancaster. led by an admiral as chief of staff who had been in the Maltese convoys. It's hard to think of a more foolish decision than to fight men like that, who were ultimately backed by politicians.
Having said all that the Argntine commanders did have some experience in shooting demonstrators, trade unionists and communists; and dropping 30,000 argentine civilians from a helicopter into the Atlantic Ocean.... But nobody who could fight back
How did Argentina become an independent colony?
The Bismarck and the Tirpitz were not threatening anything when they were sunk
The Bismarck was threatening the supplies across the Atlantic, and if the st nazaire raid hadn't been done by the royal navy and British commandos the tirpitz would have been the same threat.
Besides in a general war, warships are a threat, to keep the tirpitz trapped in Norway, the royal navy had to use valuable ships needed elsewhere, sink the tirpitz and suddenly you can give them ships something else to do.
@@theant9821 I agree with everything you state... I am having a go at all the libera, wishy washy, tree huggers that state that the General Belgrano was no threat at the time of it's sinking
@@mariacornwallis1602 the commanding officer of the belgrano said Britain was well within its rights to sink the belgrano and wise to do so as the were preparing for an offensive with it.
@@theant9821 I knew that Captain Hector Elias Bonzo did state in 2002 to the world's media that his ship had been a legitimate target.
@@mariacornwallis1602 I'm often described as a liberal, lefty.
Belgrano was absolutely fair game, it's a shame Spartan missed the carrier.
The real shock for Argentina was the sinking of the Belgrano, and in war there are no rules if someone sees a threat. That act sent the Argentine carrier scurrying back to port and any chance of a victory was lost. Add to that a professional army despite terrible conditions and hardships to get there, and put them up against thousands of conscripts, and there will only be one winner. The 99.9 per cent of islands who still want to be British are now protected properly by a garrison. There will be no Falklands War 2 thankfully. Galtieri in trouble at home thought winning the Falklands would make him popular... In the end he sent hundreds of his serviceman to their deaths, killed thousands of his own people in clampdowns and corruption and left it financially and militarily broke.
Rápido, solo hay 40 marines británicos en Port Stanley. Si enviamos a 4.500 hombres, podríamos vencerlos
No, somos una mierda, ¡necesitaremos al menos 9000!
@@davidburton2732 USTED DIJO QUE, YO NO ... LOL
@@mariacornwallis1602 ;-)
Those gangsters were not very clever.
OPERATION ROSARIO
Rápido, solo hay 40 marines británicos en Port Stanley. Si enviamos a 4.500 hombres, podríamos vencerlos
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
¿DISFRUTÓ SUS CUATRO SEMANAS EN LAS FALKLAND ISLANDS ANTES DE QUE LLEGARAN LOS VERDADEROS SOLDADOS?
Why do these Spaniards refer to Britain as England when it is abundantly clear that the nation state is the UK of Great Britain & Northern Ireland? Many Scots, Welsh, Northern Irish fought in all services in that conflict. I myself alone went to school with four Scots that fought in that war. Why do people continue to refer to Britain as England? Britain never was & never will be, England. Ignoramuses!
Its either stupidity,ignorance or a dislike of British people.🇬🇧
Well you got all those predictions wrong!Your navy commanded by the instigator of the invasion failed miserably and you sent unprepared and poorly led conscripts to fight a professional military.Only your airforce performed well.
Britain- Nice ship you have there be a shame if four torpedoes hit it
DESPUÉS DE CASI 40 AÑOS ¿AÚN ESTÁS LLORANDO POR UNA CAUSA PERDIDA ILEGÍTIMA?
clowns argentina held back on weaponry,,popeyes would have been obliterated
got your ass kicked u prick." held back on weaponry", laughed myself to sleep. we came 8 thousand miles and beat you in your backyard. you were too busy fucking eachother
Fucking idiot
If we had used all our weaponry you wouldn't have a Buenos Aires
funny but merchantmen were killed as well,,what was welsh git who got burnt,,another hero ha ha
its a shame argentinians had NO heroes at all. lol
What a fucking dickhead....your country committed a criminal act, and paid the price.
Simon Weston has more balls than the entire Argentine population combined.
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@Antonin Artaud Cobardes ¿Quieres decir como tú que viniste por la noche para atacar una isla básicamente indefensa y encarcelaron a sus habitantes? ¿Quién pintó CRUCES ROJAS en los edificios utilizados para almacenar municiones y armas para que la RAF no los bombardeara? ¿Quién usaba las casas de los isleños como baños? ¿Quién colocó su artillería en la ciudad entre los civiles? ¿Quién disparó a los soldados británicos después de que usted ondeó una bandera blanca de rendición? ¿Quiénes permitieron que sus hombres pasaran hambre y frío mientras estaban seguros y calientes en Stanley? ¿La Armada de quién corrió a casa y se escondió en el puerto durante todo el conflicto? ¿ESOS COBARDES? ¡No volverás, ambos lo sabemos!
Cowards ? You mean like you who came in the night to attack a basically undefended island and imprisoned it's inhabitants? Who painted RED CROSSES on buildings used to store ammunition and weapons So that the RAF wouldn't bomb it ? Who used islanders' homes as toilets ? Who positioned their artillery in town amongst civilians ? Who shot British soldiers after you waved a White Flag of surrender ? Whose officers allowed their men to suffer hunger and cold whilst they were safe and warm in Stanley ? Whose Navy ran home and hid in port for the whole conflict ? THOSE COWARDS? You won't be back we both know it !!
DESPUÉS DE CASI 40 AÑOS ¿AÚN ESTÁS LLORANDO POR UNA CAUSA PERDIDA ILEGÍTIMA?