8:52 Actually not all the vaults had experiments running. I think around 20 of them were set up as control vaults that were meant to run as they were advertised. The people in them were the lucky ones although lucky is a very relative word in a nuclear apocalypse. 🙄
Did anybody notice when that “doctor” was gonna give him that concoction to heal his foot, he was looking in his cupboard, for it until the kid threatened to kill him. Then after the kid threatened to kill him he went down into his briefcase box thing and got something out of there. I think he was gonna give him something in particular , but then the kid threatened to kill him so he changed his mind and gave him something different.
Fun Fact: The whole talk between Thaddeus and the radio guy was subtly poking fun at a series of quests in Fallout 4 where the only way to start a quest was by hearing it on the radio. But that radio station would play these exact same repetitive melodies for potentially hours non stop until it gave you a quest. Many players including me got very tired of these songs, that's why Thaddeus says "Can't believe some people can't appreciate music like this"
40:25 The tech that powers the Power Armour suits and Vaults is called a "Fusion Core", so it's likely that at least some of the fusion tech was indeed co-opted by Vault-Tec. Cooper's main issue with the suits was that they didn't offer enough protection due to flawed design.
It’s pretty crazy they’re not more effective in general considering the biggest hurdle to building something like that in real life is power-unit size. Like if they already have the fusion core, which in universe is something like centuries worth of power, it doesn’t make any sense not to build the biggest and baddest armored infantry weapons platform on it possible. I guess that’s explained by the resource starved nature of the pre-war setting though.
That scene with the "You are hereby sentenced to death...by banishment to the surface!" * Saws the Rope * it is just so hilarious! 😂 They made it look like she was really about to be executed until that moment. Also great to see Max & Lucy come to terms and be completely honest especially Max.
I love their theories and speculation. Doesn't matter to me if they're wildly off-base or surprisingly apt. Always so creative. Many of the reveals in the final episode were great, hope they enjoy the finale!
I don't see it mentioned much anywhere, but the doctor who fixed Thaddeus's foot offered that some remedy to Wilzig as he left Filly. At the time he seemed like a charlatan.
To combat in-breeding you need a minimum of 50 individuals. To reduce genetic drift you need 500 individuals. The vault populations ranged on average from 200 to 1000 people in terms of capacity. Meaning a total potential vault population across the country of about 125,000 humans. While the experiments in practice came out all mad scientist like, and clearly didn’t have the test subjects aka residents best interests at heart (and often went wildly out of control), there was a unifying purpose or intention driving them.
@ Profit was part of it. But a big driving force is it was Vault Tec’s sick warped F’d of version of experimentation for the sake of developing a deep space colonising space program. As far as the head honcho’s at Vault Tec and the Enclave were concerned, Earth being a planet where “war never changes” a constant factor or human nature made it a write off. Each of the experiments was designed as the type of challenge as might be presented by deep space exploration; or the development of technologies needed to improve survivability in space or on prospective inhabitable planets. I presume stage two after the supposed success of the vault experiments would have been the move to a space programme for the chosen few to leave Earth and start again, with all their enemies killed off in the Great War. Somehow Vault Tec and all their powerful allies didn’t consider they wouldn’t survive the war either. Only the Enclave really emerged more or less intact from that cabal. More or less Everyone else is just vestiges of what they once were or new factions that started from the war onwards. But that was the original plan.
@@tacticalgrace6456 The head honchos may have had that as their end game true. But their ambitions for personal profits is what got the majority of vault tec and other collaborators to go along with and support the plans, make the sales and stop peace from happening.
@ ah, yeah,I forgot you were talking about the show.. I was talking about the lore from the games, which I believe is still considered canon even with the show tacked onto the end of the timeline so far.
@@tacticalgrace6456 Ah well yes, I'm talking about the show because the lore of the games in regards to the vaults has been updated or tweaked ever since fallout 1. more so with 3 and 4 but 1 to 2 at least introduced More of it.
So the fusion cores are CALLED that but they are actually COMPLETELY unrelated to cold fusion. they are actually just atomic batteries(and named that way because people confuse/conflate fission and fusion). and they do have a point where they run out. that's why they would be, as the chicken fucker said, rare. you don't see these around very much anymore. so power armor weren't remodeled to use cold fusion, they just use the same old fusion cores they always have. related to this, the prices at the Red Rocket are actually for coolant rather than gas since most cars are actually atomic powered as well. ALL vaults we have ever seen except for 31/32/33 are single vaults like 4.... so saying it is weird is a little strange for a long term game player... if anything 31/32/33 is the weird one to us lol
Since ghoul-ification has primarily been caused by long-term radiation exposure up until now, there's a potential that Thaddeus is not, in fact, turning into a ghoul after that doctor's "treatment". If that's the case, given what alternatives the games have portrayed thus far, he's going to wish he was.
Provided they even thought about it Ghouls also do not have a healing factor or invulnerability in FO, so Maximus saying he's a ghoul because his wounds instantly heal is pure nonsense It's almost certainly just lazy writing, but maybe they realize and fix it by season 2
I know a lot of people are theorizing it’s a super mutant, or something else with more story significance. And they might write it that way in the future. But I’m 99% sure Thaddeus was supposed to die there, but they just liked that actor so much that they decided to keep him around. Like what happened with Jesse in Breaking Bad.
@@whade62000 not necessarily lazy writing for maximus, the character repeatedly established as being less intelligent, to assume something that a more knowledgable/intelligent character would never even consider. Maximus has only seen a ghoul from what we know, so it is really all he had to base his assumption off of. Would make plenty of sense for the story if he is just straight up wrong due to lack of knowledge about things beyond ghouls.
@@whade62000 It's been made pretty clear that most of the Brotherhood, especially squires and _particularly_ Maximus and Thadeus are extremely ignorant idiots. Maximus is as certain that Thadeus is a ghoul as he was that the diagram in the first episode was a rotor, and probably just as correct. As for the differences between the series' ghouls and the games' ones (the serum and the possible regeneration - limited in any case, Cooper could sew on a new finger, but he couldn't grow the old one back, and, again, Thadeus is almost certainly _not_ a ghoul, so his regeneration shouldn't count), I for one am willing to wait and see; the writing has so far been anything but lazy, and the series' creators have clearly taken a lot of care to replicate the look and feel of the game and stuff every single scene full of easter eggs, so any apparent or real conflicts with existing lore are evidently intentional, and will probably eventually be explained (and if not, well, it's not like there aren't any contradictions between Interplay's games and Bethesda's anyway).
The fusion cores that power the suit and the vaults is not COLD FUSION. The company that makes the cores just called them that, they are just regular fission or maybe hydrogen fusion.
in the fallout universe, the world was literally running out of oil, and out of uranium too, which is absolutely insane when breeder reactors are a thing, but they had many nuclear powered cars ebcause the oil prices were so high. They had like nuclear pwoered everything. I think pipboys even have miniture reactors in them
Not a ghoul... ghouls can't regenerate... something though... and a fusion core is normal nuclear fusion... cold fusion (still a concept but not workable under current science) is a whole other beast...
JSYK, when Norm hacks into Betty's computer, it looks like the hacking minigame from the games!
Basically Wordle
How is this comment from 8 days ago when the video is less than a day old?
@ member posts I think… or patreon
@@outdunpatreon early access i believe!
yeah, i cackled like mad when i recognised what it was, love they did that
8:52 Actually not all the vaults had experiments running. I think around 20 of them were set up as control vaults that were meant to run as they were advertised. The people in them were the lucky ones although lucky is a very relative word in a nuclear apocalypse. 🙄
A few had special purposes beyond experimenting and control as well... Vault 0, and a few special customer vaults...
Also there’s vault 11 or 13 I forget which one… not an experiment but the experiments were probably better off… same with that plant one in new Vegas
Did anybody notice when that “doctor” was gonna give him that concoction to heal his foot, he was looking in his cupboard, for it until the kid threatened to kill him. Then after the kid threatened to kill him he went down into his briefcase box thing and got something out of there. I think he was gonna give him something in particular , but then the kid threatened to kill him so he changed his mind and gave him something different.
Fusion cores do not use cold fusion. They're more akin to mini nuclear batteries. They last a very long time but they do eventually run out.
Fun Fact: The whole talk between Thaddeus and the radio guy was subtly poking fun at a series of quests in Fallout 4 where the only way to start a quest was by hearing it on the radio. But that radio station would play these exact same repetitive melodies for potentially hours non stop until it gave you a quest. Many players including me got very tired of these songs, that's why Thaddeus says "Can't believe some people can't appreciate music like this"
Or the whole Galaxy News Radio questline from Fallout 3
40:25 The tech that powers the Power Armour suits and Vaults is called a "Fusion Core", so it's likely that at least some of the fusion tech was indeed co-opted by Vault-Tec.
Cooper's main issue with the suits was that they didn't offer enough protection due to flawed design.
It’s pretty crazy they’re not more effective in general considering the biggest hurdle to building something like that in real life is power-unit size. Like if they already have the fusion core, which in universe is something like centuries worth of power, it doesn’t make any sense not to build the biggest and baddest armored infantry weapons platform on it possible. I guess that’s explained by the resource starved nature of the pre-war setting though.
That scene with the "You are hereby sentenced to death...by banishment to the surface!" * Saws the Rope * it is just so hilarious! 😂 They made it look like she was really about to be executed until that moment. Also great to see Max & Lucy come to terms and be completely honest especially Max.
The music the DJ is playing is from Fallout 3. Any fan would recognized it. Lol Agatha's radio station
Was that not radio freedom from fallout 4?
I love their theories and speculation. Doesn't matter to me if they're wildly off-base or surprisingly apt. Always so creative. Many of the reveals in the final episode were great, hope they enjoy the finale!
The boys are up to episode 8 guys, can't wait. Probably one of my favorite endings to a show in a long time.
I don't see it mentioned much anywhere, but the doctor who fixed Thaddeus's foot offered that some remedy to Wilzig as he left Filly.
At the time he seemed like a charlatan.
To combat in-breeding you need a minimum of 50 individuals. To reduce genetic drift you need 500 individuals. The vault populations ranged on average from 200 to 1000 people in terms of capacity. Meaning a total potential vault population across the country of about 125,000 humans. While the experiments in practice came out all mad scientist like, and clearly didn’t have the test subjects aka residents best interests at heart (and often went wildly out of control), there was a unifying purpose or intention driving them.
Yes indeed. As the show makes clear that purpose was Profit.
@ Profit was part of it. But a big driving force is it was Vault Tec’s sick warped F’d of version of experimentation for the sake of developing a deep space colonising space program. As far as the head honcho’s at Vault Tec and the Enclave were concerned, Earth being a planet where “war never changes” a constant factor or human nature made it a write off. Each of the experiments was designed as the type of challenge as might be presented by deep space exploration; or the development of technologies needed to improve survivability in space or on prospective inhabitable planets. I presume stage two after the supposed success of the vault experiments would have been the move to a space programme for the chosen few to leave Earth and start again, with all their enemies killed off in the Great War. Somehow Vault Tec and all their powerful allies didn’t consider they wouldn’t survive the war either. Only the Enclave really emerged more or less intact from that cabal. More or less Everyone else is just vestiges of what they once were or new factions that started from the war onwards. But that was the original plan.
@@tacticalgrace6456 The head honchos may have had that as their end game true. But their ambitions for personal profits is what got the majority of vault tec and other collaborators to go along with and support the plans, make the sales and stop peace from happening.
@ ah, yeah,I forgot you were talking about the show.. I was talking about the lore from the games, which I believe is still considered canon even with the show tacked onto the end of the timeline so far.
@@tacticalgrace6456 Ah well yes, I'm talking about the show because the lore of the games in regards to the vaults has been updated or tweaked ever since fallout 1. more so with 3 and 4 but 1 to 2 at least introduced More of it.
So the fusion cores are CALLED that but they are actually COMPLETELY unrelated to cold fusion. they are actually just atomic batteries(and named that way because people confuse/conflate fission and fusion).
and they do have a point where they run out. that's why they would be, as the chicken fucker said, rare. you don't see these around very much anymore.
so power armor weren't remodeled to use cold fusion, they just use the same old fusion cores they always have.
related to this, the prices at the Red Rocket are actually for coolant rather than gas since most cars are actually atomic powered as well.
ALL vaults we have ever seen except for 31/32/33 are single vaults like 4.... so saying it is weird is a little strange for a long term game player... if anything 31/32/33 is the weird one to us lol
Since ghoul-ification has primarily been caused by long-term radiation exposure up until now, there's a potential that Thaddeus is not, in fact, turning into a ghoul after that doctor's "treatment".
If that's the case, given what alternatives the games have portrayed thus far, he's going to wish he was.
Yeah, that was almost certainly some form of FEV...
Provided they even thought about it
Ghouls also do not have a healing factor or invulnerability in FO, so Maximus saying he's a ghoul because his wounds instantly heal is pure nonsense
It's almost certainly just lazy writing, but maybe they realize and fix it by season 2
I know a lot of people are theorizing it’s a super mutant, or something else with more story significance. And they might write it that way in the future.
But I’m 99% sure Thaddeus was supposed to die there, but they just liked that actor so much that they decided to keep him around. Like what happened with Jesse in Breaking Bad.
@@whade62000 not necessarily lazy writing for maximus, the character repeatedly established as being less intelligent, to assume something that a more knowledgable/intelligent character would never even consider. Maximus has only seen a ghoul from what we know, so it is really all he had to base his assumption off of. Would make plenty of sense for the story if he is just straight up wrong due to lack of knowledge about things beyond ghouls.
@@whade62000 It's been made pretty clear that most of the Brotherhood, especially squires and _particularly_ Maximus and Thadeus are extremely ignorant idiots.
Maximus is as certain that Thadeus is a ghoul as he was that the diagram in the first episode was a rotor, and probably just as correct.
As for the differences between the series' ghouls and the games' ones (the serum and the possible regeneration - limited in any case, Cooper could sew on a new finger, but he couldn't grow the old one back, and, again, Thadeus is almost certainly _not_ a ghoul, so his regeneration shouldn't count), I for one am willing to wait and see; the writing has so far been anything but lazy, and the series' creators have clearly taken a lot of care to replicate the look and feel of the game and stuff every single scene full of easter eggs, so any apparent or real conflicts with existing lore are evidently intentional, and will probably eventually be explained (and if not, well, it's not like there aren't any contradictions between Interplay's games and Bethesda's anyway).
always love the depth you guys go to in these talks
Just so you know, there is a difference between fusion and cold fusion.
The fusion cores that power the suit and the vaults is not COLD FUSION. The company that makes the cores just called them that, they are just regular fission or maybe hydrogen fusion.
id love to see you guys react to the video of every vault we know about so far from games to comics, short stories, and the show.
19:13 Im still on the side of folks who think he will be a supermutant.
Or some sort of other Mutant like Harold. Ghouls generally don't heal like that.
@ ye agreed
I love Vault 4, specially the execution scene.
It just works.
Poor Lucy thinks Maximus is a good person.
Holy shit they are guessing right on at least 3 things in this episode.
That end of the episode 😂😂😂
After the show, react to all the vaults
Gas prices...yeah correct for inflation 40 plus years. 120 bucks a gallon.
in the fallout universe, the world was literally running out of oil, and out of uranium too, which is absolutely insane when breeder reactors are a thing, but they had many nuclear powered cars ebcause the oil prices were so high. They had like nuclear pwoered everything. I think pipboys even have miniture reactors in them
I look forward to fallout on the video game streams.
And maybe even Horizon later
"...like a roomba stuck..."
😆
When you're way more correct than you realize.
Pegasus... 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Not a ghoul... ghouls can't regenerate... something though... and a fusion core is normal nuclear fusion... cold fusion (still a concept but not workable under current science) is a whole other beast...
They were either spoiled or had seen it before.
Or the show is predictable.
The show is fun but has an incredibly simple plot, you need 2 neurons to guess what's going to happen next