Also the major strategy behind fastest for zerg is almost instant maxed army .. think about if zerg can take ur main army out and have say 15 hatches behind with 3 larva each .. he can afford to lose his main army and just pop up 45 mutas to make guardians etc or hydras. This is why storm drop is crucial it keeps zerg economy behind he has to keep making drones and not hatches and stops him from having that to fall back on
I'm a woman and I've been loving your casts. I wonder if those viewer stats are entirely accurate, since Google guessed my gender as male. Either way, it would be great to see more ladies into StarCraft! I'd love to watch some in a replay.
In regards to the carriers option mentioned around 19:40, devourers, plague and swarm are a huge counter measure option on fmp. Carriers are pretty much a no-go vs zerg because of the devourers debuffs and damage amplification. Add plague and they are a waste of psi. In pvp carriers are worse because of Arbiter stasis and storms. You can perma stasis the carriers. Carriers are amongst the best of options against Terran though.
@Falcon Paladin why dont more protos use disruption web in professional settings? I remember watching an hour+ long game you casted recently where the zerg turtled and the protoss took like 30 minutes to crack the static defense losing tons of carriers, ht and dark archons in the process. If they had just researched disruption web for the CORSAIRS THEY ALREADY HAD they could have cracked the defenses much more easily.
This is why you go with more air unit in this matchup, more muta's would have been advised, nimble for storm dodging and great against packs of reavers. He'd had those mixed with ultras and he was good to go.
Hi guys, im starting to play BW Fastest map. according to experienced players, protoss is the easiest race to start with. i have a question here, how many drones/scv/probe should produced in order to have more food for armies? for example in this video, protoss has 10k minerals and some probes can be sacrificed to create more space for armies. Thank you for the experts comment and replies.
Bout a 100, if you are floating too much consider proxying more gates, prolly 2 extra nexuses at other bases should be good for gas, you can get map control with cannons too
it is 50 stacked minerals. about 50-60 on minerals should be sufficient. 3 per gas. so 80-90 at most. once your minerals start gravitating towards 8k-10k you can kill 8 to 12.
Im not a fan of zerg casts, but seeing them die in mass numbers i kind of nice:) Love seeing them run in to tanks lines. Please do some tvp or tvp on fastest map soon :)
protoss is the best on money maps. ive been saying this since these maps began popping up. 2 main reasons, first is photon cannons and the ability to spam them with one probe and second being STORM. multiple times this game storm drops killed 20 to 40 drones instantly. not even close to balanced if you ask me. not to mention one of the main disadvantages (expensive units) is totally nullified by the lack of having to expand and take any risks to secure more resources. terran is better than zerg here as well thanks to the easy to guard and attack choke points.
Lurker swarm+ultraling make ZvT the most balanced MU. It is close to a 48z52t ratio. Protoss however is closer to 80p20z and 65p35t. Need some real big skills to pull off a zerg vs p as one mistake can cost you. Guards are countered pretty well by valks, vessels and goliaths, but a good plague can counter those and get them low. Best option is to stall with lurker swarm on a choke point and build up a good unit combination or stall for a lurkerswarm drop on the minerals.
Oh god... i played fastest map for like 12 years. I was a BEAST. G()LI)FINGER was my name if anyone remembers that far back and played a lot of fastest maps. I actually got kicked out of SCDream tournaments because I used a maphack once and like 5+ years later someone posted a replay of it. I was screwed. I was just a little kid when i used a map hack... i was devastated lol. Oh well. Brought it on myself :/ Edit: yeah these guys are doin it wrong.
Im paused at 26:09 right now and im totally dumbfounded and screaming at the screen to AT LEAST get Adrenal Glands and make lings... Not to mention mayb make a defiler mound for defilers and/or even an Australian cavern for some ultras.. Its so frustrsting to watch lol. Seriously tho, AT LEAST use lings and get Adrenal gland already.. Geez! Lol Edit : FINALLY! at about 27:00 - 27:09 FINALLY a few lings came out and FINALLY adrenal gland started.. Lol like a minute or less after I posted my "complaint"/comment lol. Still way too late.. Almost a half hour in and gettin wrecked right now.. Lol
Thank you for the cast! I have just one question - who in the whole god damn world doesn't know Fastest map??? P.S. These were the worst drops and worst Reaver control that I've seen in a long time... Also no Observer at 18 minutes, especially in Fastest? How can anyone with 250+ APM be this terrible?! This win doesn't feel deserved at all - more like a blind luck.
You definitely never go carriers vs a zerg on this map .. or any map for that matter .. takes too long to Make a carrier and hard enough to hold zerg as it is imagine how quickly zerg can run in and kill you if he saw u making carriers and then imagine you get a few carriers up all zerg has to do is make a few scourge ez . Also any decent starcraft player knows if you have a maxed protoss air army vs a maxed zerg air army .. or ground doesnt matter ur toast cant go pure air vs a zerg its a nonsense notion
First of all this is a strategy like a marine bunker rush vs protoss if executed 100% and no errors happen and everything magically falls into place you dont get scouted whatever than ya this is starcraft .. you can do ANYTHING you can go any unit .. doesnt make it a smart choice is my point and every decent starcraft player knows u dont go toe to toe with zerg air with carriers and corsairs.. if you know anything about starcraft 1 queen 1 defiler maybe a 12 devoured and mutas will kill a maxed corsair carrier army with full upgrades
Carrier can have it's uses. I actually choked and rushed a 2 gate carrier with 1 armor upgrade vs terran. With an armor up, the marines do 1 dmg. He targeted the carrier thinking it was an easy snipe and lost his entire bio. Microing the carriers is important, as they can move and attack at the same time when targeting properly. Great for sniping tech trees and the main.
More BW would be the best present ever, next to all the dems in the house and senate getting voted out and then deported to Mexico. Sorry didn’t mean to get political
"Sorry didn't mean to get political" Oh, that's funny then how your fingers just accidentally tripped over your keyboard to make a blatant political statement. Weird how that works.
Mr. Paladin, You spend too much time on these computer games. You should cut your videos to once every fortnight so you don’t bemoan forever lost time. You may regret not employing your precious time in some other activity.
I suck way too bad at this game but I love it. Been a fan of starcraft for over 20 years yet I average 25 apm... I can't imagine being this good.
Also the major strategy behind fastest for zerg is almost instant maxed army .. think about if zerg can take ur main army out and have say 15 hatches behind with 3 larva each .. he can afford to lose his main army and just pop up 45 mutas to make guardians etc or hydras. This is why storm drop is crucial it keeps zerg economy behind he has to keep making drones and not hatches and stops him from having that to fall back on
Who would have thunk that fastest maps could feature so much early aggression? Great cast.
T h u n k
YAYYYY more ALWAYS MORE THANK YOU FALCON!!!!!
Thank you Falcon.
i actually enjoyed this one, usually i hate Fastest map games, good cast brother!
25:19 missing a huge templar drop, look at the zerg's supply
Turgut Ataseven That was huuuge
I'm a woman and I've been loving your casts. I wonder if those viewer stats are entirely accurate, since Google guessed my gender as male. Either way, it would be great to see more ladies into StarCraft! I'd love to watch some in a replay.
Protoss player should kill that drones by reavers in the end! I was waiting for a blood bath :D
GREAT VIDEO! WE LOVE YOU FALCON PALADIN!!!!!!
In regards to the carriers option mentioned around 19:40, devourers, plague and swarm are a huge counter measure option on fmp. Carriers are pretty much a no-go vs zerg because of the devourers debuffs and damage amplification. Add plague and they are a waste of psi. In pvp carriers are worse because of Arbiter stasis and storms. You can perma stasis the carriers. Carriers are amongst the best of options against Terran though.
That was a good one!! Had me on the edge of my seat till the end!!
@Falcon Paladin why dont more protos use disruption web in professional settings? I remember watching an hour+ long game you casted recently where the zerg turtled and the protoss took like 30 minutes to crack the static defense losing tons of carriers, ht and dark archons in the process. If they had just researched disruption web for the CORSAIRS THEY ALREADY HAD they could have cracked the defenses much more easily.
This is why you go with more air unit in this matchup, more muta's would have been advised, nimble for storm dodging and great against packs of reavers. He'd had those mixed with ultras and he was good to go.
not enough gas because of storms
Damn was rooting for the zerg player. He should have made the guardians sooner he probably would have been won.
Hi guys, im starting to play BW Fastest map.
according to experienced players, protoss is the easiest race to start with.
i have a question here, how many drones/scv/probe should produced in order to have more food for armies?
for example in this video, protoss has 10k minerals and some probes can be sacrificed to create more space for armies. Thank you for the experts comment and replies.
Bout a 100, if you are floating too much consider proxying more gates, prolly 2 extra nexuses at other bases should be good for gas, you can get map control with cannons too
it is 50 stacked minerals. about 50-60 on minerals should be sufficient. 3 per gas. so 80-90 at most. once your minerals start gravitating towards 8k-10k you can kill 8 to 12.
30:07
Reaver, High Templar, Archon, and Corsair all on screen. Maximum Splash Damage Achieved
Im not a fan of zerg casts, but seeing them die in mass numbers i kind of nice:)
Love seeing them run in to tanks lines. Please do some tvp or tvp on fastest map soon :)
The tech switch to Guardians was too slow and I figured he's getting Defilers actually. Those would have done wonders.
WP by both tho
falcon paladin u rock dude
SUNKEN/HYDRA IS BETTER THAN JUST HYDRA CUZ SOMETHING IS BUFFERING FOR THE HYDRAS - THE SUNKEN - good thought broski
great commentary! could you do more fastest maps please?
Broodwar is still better than SC2. I have a bias of course considering I was alive and well when SC and SC: Broodwar came out. Such a great game.
Alright go protoss. Goldscv is the man
i love your videos :D
protoss is the best on money maps. ive been saying this since these maps began popping up. 2 main reasons, first is photon cannons and the ability to spam them with one probe and second being STORM. multiple times this game storm drops killed 20 to 40 drones instantly. not even close to balanced if you ask me. not to mention one of the main disadvantages (expensive units) is totally nullified by the lack of having to expand and take any risks to secure more resources. terran is better than zerg here as well thanks to the easy to guard and attack choke points.
Lurker swarm+ultraling make ZvT the most balanced MU. It is close to a 48z52t ratio. Protoss however is closer to 80p20z and 65p35t. Need some real big skills to pull off a zerg vs p as one mistake can cost you. Guards are countered pretty well by valks, vessels and goliaths, but a good plague can counter those and get them low. Best option is to stall with lurker swarm on a choke point and build up a good unit combination or stall for a lurkerswarm drop on the minerals.
@@RJB_TV this makes sense, I could see z v t being way more balanced than any protoss matchup.
Oh god... i played fastest map for like 12 years. I was a BEAST. G()LI)FINGER was my name if anyone remembers that far back and played a lot of fastest maps. I actually got kicked out of SCDream tournaments because I used a maphack once and like 5+ years later someone posted a replay of it. I was screwed. I was just a little kid when i used a map hack... i was devastated lol. Oh well. Brought it on myself :/
Edit: yeah these guys are doin it wrong.
Stfu pub.
REAVER POWER!
That was fun
More fastest map games please!
I miss old VGT and SCD games
Mafia La VCK Pro xS
Why don't use Darkstorm
oh and by the way, they said muta bomb is a great startegy, im not sure what does it means..
stack a couple groups of mutalisks and make them attack the main nexus/cc/hatchery.
Im paused at 26:09 right now and im totally dumbfounded and screaming at the screen to AT LEAST get Adrenal Glands and make lings... Not to mention mayb make a defiler mound for defilers and/or even an Australian cavern for some ultras.. Its so frustrsting to watch lol. Seriously tho, AT LEAST use lings and get Adrenal gland already.. Geez! Lol
Edit : FINALLY! at about 27:00 - 27:09 FINALLY a few lings came out and FINALLY adrenal gland started.. Lol like a minute or less after I posted my "complaint"/comment lol. Still way too late.. Almost a half hour in and gettin wrecked right now.. Lol
Thank you for the cast! I have just one question - who in the whole god damn world doesn't know Fastest map???
P.S. These were the worst drops and worst Reaver control that I've seen in a long time... Also no Observer at 18 minutes, especially in Fastest? How can anyone with 250+ APM be this terrible?! This win doesn't feel deserved at all - more like a blind luck.
are you kidding me? these guys can beat top korean pros in fastest.
98,3% of people, are with pure love in this video:)
woahhh.... great game
I have almost never seen zerg win against protoss when the latter has plenty of resources:-(
Linker Nick if he just build defilers... one darkswarm with lurkers would hold the choke and he can then go mass drop or air..
Fastest is the bestest! More
FMP is my favorite!!!! Moar plz!!
thx,Fp)
Is this a reupload? I feel like i have seen this before
This is the first 1v1 GoldSCV replay I have ever cast.
Falcon Paladin okay my bad! Great cast none the less
Fastest map ever tends to seem a bit similar because they stick in one base so you dont get different angles of attack etc.
Zerg loses 9 times of 10 on this channel
Protoss has low cost high return options on FMP. Zerg is pretty much fighting an uphill battle.
Zerg played dumb. Can't only hydras all game. Should've switched and pumped some lings and mutas to harass the ht/reaver.
I hate reavers xD so much damage, splash and range wdf, too much advantage.
Yeah, but they require microing because scarabs don't autobuild in Brood War.
Also, scarabs do _really_ dumb shit sometimes.
You recorded this and posted it at like 115%. It's too fast. What went wrong Falcon?
Gg good players fastest map
my wife is one on those 1% women :) she loves brood war
You married well :D
@@FalconPaladin she readily hands me my butt with her protoss
why do players always insist on bunching up their guardians?
They don't... guardians do.
and not 1 defiler....
SC BW> SC2
Luv fastest
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Oh protoss wins on fastest map.. big surprise. fastest map makes the game even more broken
You definitely never go carriers vs a zerg on this map .. or any map for that matter .. takes too long to Make a carrier and hard enough to hold zerg as it is imagine how quickly zerg can run in and kill you if he saw u making carriers and then imagine you get a few carriers up all zerg has to do is make a few scourge ez . Also any decent starcraft player knows if you have a maxed protoss air army vs a maxed zerg air army .. or ground doesnt matter ur toast cant go pure air vs a zerg its a nonsense notion
liquipedia.net/starcraft/Corsair/Carrier_(vs._Zerg)
You sure?
First of all this is a strategy like a marine bunker rush vs protoss if executed 100% and no errors happen and everything magically falls into place you dont get scouted whatever than ya this is starcraft .. you can do ANYTHING you can go any unit .. doesnt make it a smart choice is my point and every decent starcraft player knows u dont go toe to toe with zerg air with carriers and corsairs.. if you know anything about starcraft 1 queen 1 defiler maybe a 12 devoured and mutas will kill a maxed corsair carrier army with full upgrades
And ya that may work in a 1 vs 1 map where u can snipe expos .. there is no expos to snipe trust me I've played 1000s of games on all maps
Carrier can have it's uses. I actually choked and rushed a 2 gate carrier with 1 armor upgrade vs terran. With an armor up, the marines do 1 dmg. He targeted the carrier thinking it was an easy snipe and lost his entire bio. Microing the carriers is important, as they can move and attack at the same time when targeting properly. Great for sniping tech trees and the main.
Quite bad, Maybe they played this map for a first time
More BW would be the best present ever, next to all the dems in the house and senate getting voted out and then deported to Mexico. Sorry didn’t mean to get political
Nice. Maybe you should be the next president :3
Please deport me~
"Sorry didn't mean to get political" Oh, that's funny then how your fingers just accidentally tripped over your keyboard to make a blatant political statement. Weird how that works.
@@billybegood466 and the conscious decision to write that it was an accident instead of just deleting it lol xD
Why would you pick these boring maps... it shows nothing. I really really dislike it. Waste of time.
Mr. Paladin,
You spend too much time on these computer games. You should cut your videos to once every fortnight so you don’t bemoan forever lost time. You may regret not employing your precious time in some other activity.