Robert Jones: White Supremacy in Christianity
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Robert P. Jones is the CEO and founder of Public Religion Research Institute. He’s a leading scholar and commentator on religion and politics who is frequently featured on national media such as CNN, NPR and The New York Times. Jones is the author of the 2016 book, "The End of White Christian America", and the recently released "White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity."
"If you look at the relationship between holding racist attitudes and identifying as a white evangelical, that connection is actually stronger among those who attend church more frequently rather than less,” he tells “Freethought Matters” co-hosts Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor. Jones notes that the nonreligious register the least racism.
Learn more about the Freedom From Religion Foundation at ffrf.org.
As a Canadian, I realize that your work is USA centric, however the negative effects of extreme right religiosity is felt throughout the world. Thank you for your efforts.
lucky you, to live next door to the crazy capital of the world.
As an atheist Australian 🇦🇺 I wholeheartedly concur with my fellow British commonwealth-ian. Thank you for all the effort and time you put in to reverse the deliberate dumbing-down of America.
Germany has esoterics with nearly 60% of the youth refusing monotheism,still embarrassing Backwards
@Pacific Bob you need to read the book because he is NOT just talking about "Extremists" and "far right ideologies" in his book,l. There is specific mention of how southern evangelicals were able to join up with abolitionists AFTER the Civil war because of their shared distain for Black Americans and their ideology of superiority over the African.
True, I see this in Australia where they just had an anti-covid(anti-science) lockdown riot and too a lesser extent here in NZ which is more secular. But the common denominator is outreach from Evangelical Americans.
I admire Robert P. Jones for his scholarship and research on these topics. Considering his lineage, finding the moral compass and fortitude to break the mold in search of the truth is most impressive.
As always, a great show. Thanks to everyone. 👍
Thanks Mr. Jones, you escaped the trap of the Christian... It’s very hard to leave the church if you don’t have strong mind.
🙌🙌🙌🙏💫
I was born into a Northern Baptist Brazilian church, that I am happily no longer a part of, and this was a great perspective! Wow 👏
Life is so complicated for us all. Everyone has a right to thier own type of freedom, the tricky secret is to respect each other.
Religion and racism. Identical twins.
the right wing war on public schools started with brown v . board of education, (the desegregation of schools) it also led to white flight from urban areas, and even turned the nra (a gun safety organization) into the radical right wing operation it has become, our country is guided by racism from top to bottom, hence james balwin's quote, "white too long."
State Religion, perhaps is more fairer view. Quakers and Anabaptist were gibbeted and stung across Europe for doubting Jesus advocated State Religion and War. That's why they ended up in America (Anabaptist are now Amish and Mennonites)
Wow, I didn't know slavery was the origin story of the Southern Baptist Convention -- that little fact alone was worth the price of admission to this video. The James Baldwin quote was brutal! His words were so amazingly good and powerful, even in, maybe especially when, he seemed to be more in despair near the end. Church attendance does not correlate to racist christian attitudes? Wow, thought for sure attendance at church would tend to ramp up the Christian hate. Gee -- lots of "wows" in this video.
I was blown away by the quote by Baldwin....cuts like a knife
I was licensed to "preach" at 6 years of with the SBC, and am now at 60 years, a free freethinker. Thank you for this vid.
Statistical confirmation for what I've known about christian believers for a very long time !
We all new for a long time , & the people before us .
When I learned from research that Christianity was suppose to be a way of life and not a religion, I stopped attending church.
Just bought White Too Long on Audible. I'm really looking forward to hearing it.
There is also the parallel question of 'religious supremacism'; the idea that any given faith has an absolute monopoly on all spiritual and/or metaphysical matters, and therefore must be adhered to by the entire human species, regardless of culture, politics, or geography.
My former religion depicts Jesus as a pale northern European. Always has. I live in Utah, so you know who they are.
Having a brown jesus doesn't change anything. I am black and LDS from the hood and have seen black Jesus everywhere but nothing change in that neighborhood with a black Jesus bruh.
Thanks for this honest review of white supremacy in christianity.
Here we go again, yet another example of how the slave issue was central in the division of another great US institution. Indeed, the issue of race is found in every warp and woof in the fabric that is America.
I'm seen most of the UA-cam interviews/presentations Dr Jones has maked and this is one of the best overviews.
This is good to hear.... It's been a long time coming & more to go 👌🏽
Why do black and white Christians after all these years still segregate themselves by attending different churches ? If the Christian religion is the answer than why does this still happen ?
Because of the racism predominant in the white church.
Actually I’m not surprised my Friends
You will be surprised if you read the book. These interviews water down the HORROR of the reality that we currently live in.
I went back to church after my wife passed away at a friends urging to attend a group strictly for men, mostly just to get me out of the house. This was pre-Trump. Things were fine until Trump got into office. As the Trump years dragged on the group got nastier and nastier. I finally had to leave. They evolved from a rather friendly bunch of fellows to a very mean-spirited group. I don't think that many of them even noticed the change in themselves.
fascinating work, can't wait to get the book and dive into the numbers. well done ffrf and mr. jones.
Could you please talk about supremacy in Islam against black people ? Thank you for all your hard work. 🌸🌺🌷
Ironically, I was looking up something on the white supremacist founder of Bob Jones University when I clicked on this by accident, but I'm glad I did. Very interesting and useful to me, even as a foreigner observing your low level Civil War and the drawn out aftermath of your fascist Presidency from across the pond, and I might even order a copy of the book.
Would America be a different country and culture if, instead of Christianity being the dominant religious influence, then if Buddhism would be the major cultural influence?
The answer is an obvious yes. Which is an indictment of Christianity.
Sounds about white
This was a great episode. A bit different from other individuals observing & studying Christian Nationalism...i will definitely get his book and combine his opinion & data with the information so far collected from David Neuwert, Andrew Seidel, Katherine Stewart, Michelle Goldberg, Andrew L.Whitehead, Samuel L. Perry, Kristin Kobes Du Mez, Damon T. Berry or Chris Hedges.
Appreciate it...i would love to see a discussion concerning the book " Anointed with Oil: How Christianity and Crude Made Modern America "
by Darren Dochuk.
And at least a one hour special with David Neiwert who in my opinion wrote two phenomenal classics concerning the alliance of the Alt Right / Christian Nationalism....
Eliminationists
How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right ( released 2009 )
Alt-America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump ( released 2017 )
Red Pill, Blue Pill: How to Counteract the Conspiracy Theories That Are Killing Us ( released 2020 )
In God's Country: The Patriot Movement and the Pacific Northwest ( released 2009 )
You guys need to sit him down with Seidel👍
Stumbled here, I think I'll stay.
What great information.
excellent interview. thank you
Yes you right
Love you Anne and Dan!!!
The first non jew baptized person was an eunuch from Ethiopia. 🇪🇹
The apostols and disciples were middle easterns so with no Anglo-Saxon complexion.
The first Christian communities were in the East Mediterranean (st Paul letters) and italy (st. Paul landing in Puteoli met there some brothers).
Religious people will see themselves as "more morale" than others, regardless of affiliation, and thus more justified in their opinions whatever they are. It gives them a bigger collective base of reinforcement, and thus they can say someone who disagrees is attacking them for their religion and not their morale failures. Religion makes everything simple, because everything can at its core be attributed to "God", and saves them from their own world ignorance. Simply put, you can't fix stupid.
Great show.
Jimmy Baldwin did used to say: ''Their Jesus isn't our Jesus.'' And their God, as it were, was the God of Pharaoh, not Moses.
Oh? I think this is sad. This may be one of the most deceptive episodes of FFRF that has been uploaded. Non-religious does not imply less racist nor does that identity reflect an immunity to being host to harmful and divisive ideas. I wish that there was a greater diversity on this panel. This is such a disheartening episode. Sigh.
Racism and nationalism is a feature of the bible, and so a feature of Christianity.
...the fact that Jesus would have been of "color" is the ultimate irony.
Exactly! This ilk believe that the USA has been given by GOD the mantle of Israel as the new chosen nation.
Thanks for this! The last two minutes really hit the nail on the head. Things will not change until White Christians are uncomfortable enough to initiate the change. This most likely would mean some type of economic redistribution, but not necessarily limited to the economics. The unfortunate reality is that in our current day ANY mention of reparations would almost certainly be met with strong resistance buy those who see no difference between "reparations" and "an underserved handout" (paid for by people who had nothing to do with the establishment of supremacy, or slavery, or racism.), or colloquially an actual "White" tax.
very important and meaningful work. will have to pick up his book!
This is good and important research and is supported by psychological research.
lol jesus was brown. if he indeed even existed.
Christianity is often used as a social label, and rarely internalized by the practitioner.
Today is Christmas 2021 and I simultaneously weep for the duplicity of Christian magical thinking and, then, shudder for its deadly ignorance.
I'm sure Robert Jones' Christian cousins and kinfolk in those two counties in Georgia are awesomely proud of him.
Thanks for the video...I'm starting to learn alot
The question of reparations is very complicated! Who pays it, those whose family owned slaves in the past, or everyone? Who gets reparations, those whose family were slaves or does that include people who came to America after slavery was abolished? Is there a monetary threshold for who pays it? In other words, do those who make under a certain amount gain an exemption? And, on the other hand, is there a ceiling for who are not qualified to receive reparations, do millionaires receive reparations? What amount is sufficient, is it possible to place a dollar amount for the suffering that has taken place?
The house has a committee to review reparations.. I wonder if there were so many questions for other people who received them? Probably not. In any case this descendant of slaves is ready. Hoping for good news in my lifetime 👌🏽💛💜
When you talk about reparations, that will cost you many supporters. Like the person who will gladly lip service switching to clean energy, until it means money out of his or her paycheck.
Still worthwhile, as rising tides lift all boats and the next person enabled to participate might be just average and worth it.
Thank god for these people and their videos 🤗
vital info
The bible isn't an elastic document...The morality of the person reading that book overwhelms their intellect or lack thereof to interpret that nook in a way that benefits the interpreter.
great discussion and insights ... unfortunately it makes total sense, going into a church is like any other herd mentality thought bubble ,,, all those inside think they are right, just, blameless, good ... the circumstances and cold realities outside the stain glass mar not their victorious souls ... sad, but we still live very much in the middle of history, , , much much work to do get to humans to a better place collectively
Ironic that his name is Bob Jones.
Excellent program
Politics is religion and religion is politics three deadly sins religion politics race
This is wonderful. Reparations are in order.
Yes I'm hopeful, the house has a committee to review it presently.
The bible was written for the enslavers advantage and the enslaved disadvantaged!!! FACT!!!
"EVERY WISH FULFILLED" E.T.
3:00 A devestating impression!
Let's go Brandon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
London bridge is falling down and apart!
It appears that Jesus did the same treatment as Michael Jackson
I pray to the future AI god
The problem in America is, Spoiler Alert, Christanity!
The problem with Christanity is, wait for it, another Spoiler Alert, it's CHRISTANITY!