They have a lot of really great eco-villages/kin domains in my country of birth Russia. People in Russia are reuniting with their ancient roots, ancestral guidance. They are also reuniting with nature. I believe that small independent fully self-sufficient cities/villages/tribes/kingdoms/clans/communities is a much better option then giant countries with their central government systems. Like for example, when you are forced by law to pay taxes in America & other large countries, you’ll pay your taxes and your money just disappears, and you’ll never really see where your money goes. In countries like America they collect your taxes on so many different levels. If you lived in a small independent self-sufficient community people would not be forced to contribute to their community. People would willingly help out and contribute to their communities, and when they do so, they can actually see where their contribution goes to. Another good thing about smaller independent communities/villages/tribes/clans versus the large countries with Government systems is that when you live in a large country, you’re surrounded by millions of people. Although you are surrounded by millions of people in a large country, those people are complete strangers to you, but when you live in a small independent community, you may only be surrounded by 20 or so neighbors, but those neighbors are like family to you. Each family is allowed a certain amount of land, and the family takes this land, and build their homes on this land, dig their well, and plant their gardens. This is called a kin’s domain, and it is passed down from generation to generation. This way each single family is fully independent and self-sufficient. This is how they do it in a Russian eco-villages. I know that in other parts of the world they do it a little differently. Each family doesn’t produce their own food for themselves, but a community does it together, which is another good option. Either way this is the only thing that will save humans, and all life on this planet in general, including the planet herself.
There are actually dozens of Eco-Villages in most countries but many of them are hidden and dont have a website. They are not commercial and some are only 10 people. I wish there were a list of places for every country.
Love your video Professor Litfin. Looking forward to your class next quarter ! Keep up the good work, and I hope that Eco-villages are a way of the future! It's my dream to live in one of these one day...
5:25. Personally, I would be glad to know who grows my food. I would NOT be one of those who purchases my produce on the outside because it's cheaper. I'd not mind paying extra to my local farmers neighborhood for the produce.
I think variety is key, once you have that you can even sell to restaurants. The problem is that people plant just a single crop, and don't expand their horizons beyond the local market stall.
I never thought about that (i.e. single crop issues). Okay. Well, I guess if my local neighborhood farmer is growing one thing, then I'm off to the market where I can buy a bunch of different stuff. While there, I might as well get everything. Thanks for enlightening me.
U GOT IT GOD BLESS NOW MOVE PA LETS START WORKING TO FEED OUR KIDS GO ORGANIC FOOD GOOD WATER IT WORKS MY FAMILY DOES IT WE ARE NOT SIC ANY MORE LET ME HELP OTHERS WITH GOD ON OR SIDE WE CANT FALL
Totally agree... but getting planes screws the world more than any trasport! (60-70% more emissions per head) Good for you that you saw all these places though.
Yes, I fully agree & I take up the issue in the book - including the fact that some ecovillage economies are dependent upon jet travel for their educational programs. My sense is that we need to leverage today's resources to forge a new culture. It's a delicate dance. If it's any consolation, at home I pretty much get everywhere by bicycle!
Totally... we need to leverage today's resources to forge a new culture of... "responsible" human behaviours. Who can be a good teacher of that concept? in the context of ecovillages those who are the living 'example' of sustainability. I didn't go home this Christmas because I wasn't allowed more than 1 week holiday break from work, but almost 1 week it takes me to travel to/from home (by coach & train). By plane-travel I'd be home in 2 hours and would have a far better Christmas than what I actually had away from my family. I also mostly cycle + walk, when I don't get buses; I'm vegie; recycle, reuse, shop-critically, lobby, campaign, etc. ...but if I produce 60-70 % + emissions per journey all my contributions other than transports would be niled in terms of impact. It's been 6 years since I decided to boycott plane-travel and I sticked to it. I still love comforts, travelling and doing my experiences around though. I just will have to wait a lil longer and earn my achievements more coherently! Sad that some "ecovillages" do that... I want to start an eco-project on my land, but I sure wouldn't dare to consider myself "eco-" if relying on planes for educational programmes. That's nonsense.
Karen Litfin we have some pretty amazing computer resources to help with education and to decrease significantly jet travel. I just got an electric boost bike, and am using it much more now. Problem for me now, relatives I want to spend time with living so far away. :-/
Laura Westbrook boat/ship travel will take you there too... train, buses and bycicles too, within land...on the scale of convenience is "time"/"frequency" vs emissions, floods, desertification, water scarsity, corporations and so on. I stopped flying 8 years ago for this reason... I'm not air sick + I still love to travel + I'm a Westerner. It is great that you think of the problem, but I think that's very important to divert all our contributions to a cause. A systematic approach does a faster and better job in the internet era: (e.g.) skype conferences, etc. I do care about people, but environment is the mother of all.
Regardless of when peak oil/degrowth happen, one must wonder how it would be possible to "re-skill" the city-dweller/consumer, in practical and social ways. I mean, many people do not know how they could ever live without the human costs incurred by the systems in which they live. I believe it's called "surplus helplessness"?
I'm interested in people that have lived in cities all their lives and just tired of living with people in general. It might be just a symptom of over stimulus where the natural tendency is to cut oneself off completely. Can these Eco Villages involve some sharing but even a large amount of privacy. I might not be interested in pot luck dinners, dance circles. But in sharing water, resources seem to make more sense to me.
7:34 -- With all due respect, I beg to differ. I think we may all indeed have to start moving into ecovillages or start creating as many new ones as we can, because we actually don't have that much left of our nonrenewable resources. Folks like Richard Heinberg said as much. Once the cheap oil runs out, the major cities around the world are going to collapse into chaos, while the ecovillages around will be safe (assuming total self-sufficiency and being 100% off the grid of course).
Dear Karen - Congratulations on a fine book and on having the courage to take a year off to go and live your dream and answer your calling to deepen your knowledge about the subjects you teach. I am reading it now, and feeding in the knowledge to www.tamanpetanu.com, a modern eco neighborhood in Bali, Indonesia. Come visit us if you're ever in the region!
GREAT VIDEO KAREN! I studied political science and environmental policy/studies in college as well as religous studies. we have a lot in common. you may be interested in our movie withinreachmovie . com coming out soon. sign up on our website to see it near you.
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i am not sure you are going to get the kind of change you are talking about with out a real model. you are not going to get cities and towns to form actual communities. unless of course they see the model in action. people have to know it can work. otherwise they will not buy in.
AMEN I ALL YOURS WELL JESUS FRIST POOR FAMILY WILLING TODO ANY THING TO GIVE MY KIDS AFUTURE I M OGANIC FARMER HELP CITY WAISE RESICOLING PUT GARDENS IN FREE AN TEACH HOW GOD HAS THE ANSWERS
Great contribution to the conversation and to the academic advocates. Thanks Karen!
They have a lot of really great eco-villages/kin domains in my country of birth Russia. People in Russia are reuniting with their ancient roots, ancestral guidance. They are also reuniting with nature. I believe that small independent fully self-sufficient cities/villages/tribes/kingdoms/clans/communities is a much better option then giant countries with their central government systems. Like for example, when you are forced by law to pay taxes in America & other large countries, you’ll pay your taxes and your money just disappears, and you’ll never really see where your money goes. In countries like America they collect your taxes on so many different levels. If you lived in a small independent self-sufficient community people would not be forced to contribute to their community. People would willingly help out and contribute to their communities, and when they do so, they can actually see where their contribution goes to. Another good thing about smaller independent communities/villages/tribes/clans versus the large countries with Government systems is that when you live in a large country, you’re surrounded by millions of people. Although you are surrounded by millions of people in a large country, those people are complete strangers to you, but when you live in a small independent community, you may only be surrounded by 20 or so neighbors, but those neighbors are like family to you. Each family is allowed a certain amount of land, and the family takes this land, and build their homes on this land, dig their well, and plant their gardens. This is called a kin’s domain, and it is passed down from generation to generation. This way each single family is fully independent and self-sufficient. This is how they do it in a Russian eco-villages. I know that in other parts of the world they do it a little differently. Each family doesn’t produce their own food for themselves, but a community does it together, which is another good option. Either way this is the only thing that will save humans, and all life on this planet in general, including the planet herself.
There are actually dozens of Eco-Villages in most countries but many of them are hidden and dont have a website. They are not commercial and some are only 10 people. I wish there were a list of places for every country.
Get rid Of Money There is! ic.org is the best place to look for a community.
Hello! You can check out The Global EcoVillage Network and NuMundo for ecovillage references. Cheers!
Love your video Professor Litfin. Looking forward to your class next quarter ! Keep up the good work, and I hope that Eco-villages are a way of the future!
It's my dream to live in one of these one day...
I love this. it's way we should live, and something I've lost. but I,am so glad it still alive. I say alive because this is what it is to be alive.
I look forward to reading your new book. Thank you!
can you please share the different places you visited, the pros and cons of each
5:25. Personally, I would be glad to know who grows my food. I would NOT be one of those who purchases my produce on the outside because it's cheaper. I'd not mind paying extra to my local farmers neighborhood for the produce.
I think variety is key, once you have that you can even sell to restaurants. The problem is that people plant just a single crop, and don't expand their horizons beyond the local market stall.
I never thought about that (i.e. single crop issues). Okay. Well, I guess if my local neighborhood farmer is growing one thing, then I'm off to the market where I can buy a bunch of different stuff. While there, I might as well get everything. Thanks for enlightening me.
U GOT IT GOD BLESS NOW MOVE PA LETS START WORKING TO FEED OUR KIDS GO ORGANIC FOOD GOOD WATER IT WORKS MY FAMILY DOES IT WE ARE NOT SIC ANY MORE LET ME HELP OTHERS WITH GOD ON OR SIDE WE CANT FALL
Very interesting stuff. Thanks for your contribution.
Thanks for sharing this it really made good sense to me.
Dear Karen, missing you a lot here in Auroville. When can we read your book? Lots of love.
Margarita
Totally agree... but getting planes screws the world more than any trasport! (60-70% more emissions per head) Good for you that you saw all these places though.
Yes, I fully agree & I take up the issue in the book - including the fact that some ecovillage economies are dependent upon jet travel for their educational programs. My sense is that we need to leverage today's resources to forge a new culture. It's a delicate dance. If it's any consolation, at home I pretty much get everywhere by bicycle!
Totally... we need to leverage today's resources to forge a new culture of... "responsible" human behaviours. Who can be a good teacher of that concept? in the context of ecovillages those who are the living 'example' of sustainability. I didn't go home this Christmas because I wasn't allowed more than 1 week holiday break from work, but almost 1 week it takes me to travel to/from home (by coach & train). By plane-travel I'd be home in 2 hours and would have a far better Christmas than what I actually had away from my family. I also mostly cycle + walk, when I don't get buses; I'm vegie; recycle, reuse, shop-critically, lobby, campaign, etc. ...but if I produce 60-70 % + emissions per journey all my contributions other than transports would be niled in terms of impact. It's been 6 years since I decided to boycott plane-travel and I sticked to it. I still love comforts, travelling and doing my experiences around though. I just will have to wait a lil longer and earn my achievements more coherently! Sad that some "ecovillages" do that... I want to start an eco-project on my land, but I sure wouldn't dare to consider myself "eco-" if relying on planes for educational programmes. That's nonsense.
Karen Litfin we have some pretty amazing computer resources to help with education and to decrease significantly jet travel. I just got an electric boost bike, and am using it much more now. Problem for me now, relatives I want to spend time with living so far away. :-/
Laura Westbrook boat/ship travel will take you there too... train, buses and bycicles too, within land...on the scale of convenience is "time"/"frequency" vs emissions, floods, desertification, water scarsity, corporations and so on. I stopped flying 8 years ago for this reason... I'm not air sick + I still love to travel + I'm a Westerner. It is great that you think of the problem, but I think that's very important to divert all our contributions to a cause. A systematic approach does a faster and better job in the internet era: (e.g.) skype conferences, etc. I do care about people, but environment is the mother of all.
Regardless of when peak oil/degrowth happen, one must wonder how it would be possible to "re-skill" the city-dweller/consumer, in practical and social ways. I mean, many people do not know how they could ever live without the human costs incurred by the systems in which they live. I believe it's called "surplus helplessness"?
we cant live like ecovillages in the city etc where we are now, rents are way too high where are we supposed to grow food?
When will the book be available?
I'm interested in people that have lived in cities all their lives and just tired of living with people in general. It might be just a symptom of over stimulus where the natural tendency is to cut oneself off completely. Can these Eco Villages involve some sharing but even a large amount of privacy. I might not be interested in pot luck dinners, dance circles. But in sharing water, resources seem to make more sense to me.
7:34 -- With all due respect, I beg to differ. I think we may all indeed have to start moving into ecovillages or start creating as many new ones as we can, because we actually don't have that much left of our nonrenewable resources. Folks like Richard Heinberg said as much. Once the cheap oil runs out, the major cities around the world are going to collapse into chaos, while the ecovillages around will be safe (assuming total self-sufficiency and being 100% off the grid of course).
what part of the examples of working ecovillages did you not hear about in this video?
@SpatialVortex Nice dream... my dream is that we'll all one day live on a planet where the Earth is treated as our village.
Dear Karen - Congratulations on a fine book and on having the courage to take a year off to go and live your dream and answer your calling to deepen your knowledge about the subjects you teach. I am reading it now, and feeding in the knowledge to www.tamanpetanu.com, a modern eco neighborhood in Bali, Indonesia. Come visit us if you're ever in the region!
To quite, you need to reset your audio levels.
jacque fresco tries explain about claiming the world a common heritage
May i Co-create with entirety compassionately
And S.A.?
... and you know this how?
Because it's obvious.
Although sound, these are very minoritarian enterprises. This is fine, of course, but I worry for the average worker.
GREAT VIDEO KAREN! I studied political science and environmental policy/studies in college as well as religous studies. we have a lot in common. you may be interested in our movie withinreachmovie . com coming out soon. sign up on our website to see it near you.
i am not sure you are going to get the kind of change you are talking about with out a real model. you are not going to get cities and towns to form actual communities. unless of course they see the model in action. people have to know it can work. otherwise they will not buy in.
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Nothing gay about it
AMEN I ALL YOURS WELL JESUS FRIST POOR FAMILY WILLING TODO ANY THING TO GIVE MY KIDS AFUTURE I M OGANIC FARMER HELP CITY WAISE RESICOLING PUT GARDENS IN FREE AN TEACH HOW GOD HAS THE ANSWERS