Hi. I purchase the original Sena 10c when it was first launched (I still have it) and have since purchased a number of actions cameras and other Sena comms devices (Sony AS200's YI 4k+ Sena 30k's) and recently, a go pro 7 and the Sena 10c pro. Comparing the the video quality between the 10c and the 10c pro, they look very similar albeit you can now shoot 1080p60 and 1440p@30. The two things that were missing from my original sena 10c, was the fact you can now shoot 1080p and you now can preview a live video from a sena app to setup the orientation . Setting up the orientation on the original Sena 10c was a real pain, as there was no camera preview, so it was trial and error through a series of recording until the orientation was sorted. Comparing only video quality to my other actions cameras Sony AS200s, Yi 4k+'s Go pro 7, the Sena 10c pro is lacking and is no better than any budget action camera that cost less than £100 that shoots 1080p60. The Sena 10c or the newer Sena 10c pro offer great value for money for moto vlogging or recording groups rides, listen to music or make and receive phone calls, all done from a single device. You have to buy a Sena 10/20s or Sena 30k, a Go Pro camera, go pro mic adapter ,3.5mm stereo phone jack splitter, and 2 lava mics, which will set you back about £700- 900. to achieve the same functionality. I guess it comes down your pocket and the purpose of video content, and how invest you are in cinematography .
I don't know why ppl always compare with a GoPro. The GoPro is an action cam. The Sena 10c Pro is an intercom, with cam. With the aim of being an intercom, and it gives you an extra with the cam. GoPro is a pure cam, and nothing else.
Problem is it doesn't really do anything all that well. Poor video quality. Has trouble connecting to other senas like the 20s or 30k. And what ever happened to the 10c evo?
@@MotorcyclesforTallRidersNow I dont know about that, my experience with this device (10c) is that there is no problem with other intercoms... 10c pro, well we will check that out this riding season. 10c evo... well I don't know, I don't work for Sena =)
Because many use the GoPro for moto vlogs. If this had decent video quality it would be direct competition to the GoPros. Unfortunately the quality is on par with a GoPro...from about 15 years ago. Any smartphone will have better video quality than this. I think the concept is great, they could have hit a homerun with this, but the video quality is just terrible compared to what you find even in the cheapest video cams on the market. Compression, dynamic range, colors, it's just horrendous. On a plus side, the sound is very clean.
@@Speedytrip If you like high quality vids and you care more about your channel then riding a motorcycle, then you go for a GoPro. If riding motorcycle means everything, riding with friends, using gps, etc... and you like to post now and then on YT, the Sena is great. Like I said before, you can't compare an intercom with an action cam. They are 2 different devices. And for that money the sena gives you a lot of options
I got the 10c pro last December and so far I'm personally happy with it on 1080p 60fps. You want the extra frames for shooting you're riding it matters more than 4k, most people watch UA-cam on phones anyway. I like the music mix, if you play music it mixes it into the video, this can be turned off. I simply find it to be the best all rounder out there, Jack of all trades master of non YET I find every aspect to it more than enough. I haven't messed with the gain yet but I find I can't hear my motorbike loud enough, that's a possible down side.
If you had a phone call will this record the conversation and or if you had a passenger with the Bluetooth com will this record the conversation as well?
Nice to see it used in UK with left driving system (as well as in Japan), since the camera itself is on the left side of the helmet as well I was curious to see whether it would be much of a trouble. Good review overall, especially thinking that for that price basically you get 2 for 1.
Very good review, thanks. I’m thinking of getting the Sena 10C on the basis of your assessment, although the video image quality is slightly holding me back. At this late stage, I’m wondering if I’m just as well waiting for the next release/version which will probably be a further improved one and with better video image quality. When is that likely to be, though...? What do you think? Worth just waiting?
Yes its hard to gauge, the video quality is fine if you are just using it as a 'dash cam' or for fun, when I mix it with my GoPro Hero 7 footage you can see the difference clearly. But the GoPro obviously doesn't do comms and you cant record your voice directly to it easily. I don't know if upcoming software upgrades would improve it. As its relatively new it might be a while until another version comes out I guess
I like the fact I can use this on either of my helmets...which are already set up for the original 10C... Just ordered mine from Revzilla...I’ve used a 10C (original) for 2 years and really have no complaints...and I like in NW Oregon, been in some rain with NO problems...but my R1200RT has excellent wind protection so I don’t get very wet if in motion. I plan on using this with the RC4 handlebar remote (which worked well with the original 10C after the firmware update) so I don’t have to take my right hand off the bars to do intercom, camera, etc.
Hi Gregg, I've not tried the remote, but it could be useful? Looking at Sena's 2019 catalogue, it looks they are introducing a +Mesh device, which will add mesh connectivity to any of their existing comms units
The RC4 handlebar remote is VERY useful...I can control intercom, camera, phone and volume without taking my hands off the bars... and it just takes a few seconds to migrate it from one bike to another. A firmware update this last year to the original 10C let it pair and work with the RC4...and the remote battery lasts about 6 months (it’s a small lithium CR2016). Thanks for the heads-up on the mesh adapter...I’ll look into that.
Great review! I got a 10C Pro myself for Xmas. Image quality looks better as it was on 10C, but still far behind Gopro. Audio is excellent. But considering it's communicator, radio, bluetooth, wifi and camera in one device, this is pretty good deal.
Yes I think the image quality is fine and I guess its not really fair to compare it directly to the GoPro Hero 7. If you did a side by side comparison the 10c would lose out on image quality, but would wipe the floor with the GoPro on communications and radio quality ;)
Its good they’ve finally released a camera app, shame it doesn’t work with the original 10C. The camera quality is pretty decent. Good enough for motovlogging I reckon.
That is a shame. Yes I thought it was OK, and as I said it was straight out of the box. Its more than sufficient for its use, I wasn't expecting a 'cinematic' output
This is perfect for me now I want to add a intercom and have been thinking of changing my Bullet R cam anyway. The footage is good enough for what I want. thanks for a great review. had just been comparing intercoms up to now
Happy New Year! Thanks for the good review. I have a question about buying a motorcycle headset and I like 10c pro. I’m not a professional blogger but I think this is enough for amateur shooting. Do you think it is possible to remove the camera from the helmet in order to shoot some other angles not on the move, but just hold it in your hand or on some kind of tripod? I understand that it will be without sound, but is it possible. Thank.
Looks and sounds good. I picked up the sena prism and have been pretty pleased with the quality thus far using a sena 30k headset for the audio. Have you tried the prism? I would be interested to know your thoughts. 👍🏻
I have the old SMH-10 headset. It can't multi-task. Riding solo, I can get map directions off of the phone. Use the phone to call, etc. BUT once the headset is paired with another headset, the navigation directions are gone and I can only hear the communication between riders. My son has the 20s, and he gets both navigation directions and rider to rider coms, seamlessly. Can this unit multi-task without having to punch buttons to switch between inputs (navigation and communication)?
How long does the battery last in your Tennessee I have one really haven't used it but I'm just curious how long the battery will last thank you by the way I love love the video
Got one and loving it at the moment... from the point of view of recording video and sound the Sena is way better than the Go Pro Hero 5 Session I was using. It is even more compact than the session as it needs the Mic adapter which has more bugs than "i'm a celebrity". Image quality in low light is superior to the session too. Cheers for the recommendation... We'll worth the £350 (though mine was a Xmas prezzie) and I haven't even used all it's features yet!!
Would be nice to have a simple all in one solution, but video quality here is so bad... I guess we are not quite there yet. When motovlogging now a days, I think your quality needs to be top notch.. hero 7 really set the bar for that tho I hate the external mic adapter....
It would, and this is the closest yet. Quality isn't on par with the Hero 7, but i guess this was aimed more at the Dashcam/recording your trips market as opposed to motovloggers or cinematographers. The simplest solution would be for GoPro to allow Bluetooth devices to connect and record voice directly.....it can't be that hard surely. Sena did it with the GP10 accessory
its about $350.00 USD I may have to look into getting one, I have not had good luck with go pros on a motorcycle. I want to get more riding footage for my channel. Looks good enough to me and the audio sounds decent. I need to check the website I wonder if you can talk to your mates while recording video. Plus I want to get a drone . 😃 I miss those rural back roads in England, I was stationed at the former RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk County, love the country side and yes I would stop for the Horses, cattle, sheep and let the Farmers cross, never hurts to be polite I was never really in any hurry be it on my bike or in my Mini (1985 model). I learned to slow down because one time I doing the backroad boogie in the mini and came around a corner that was a cattle crossing and I found out that cow manure and michelins have zero friction cohesion and just about did slide into a ditch, luckily I was able to stop and realized I was being an idiot and luckily no one else was harmed. After that I started enjoying my country rides. Plus by stopping I got to meet some really nice folks, that was way better than being ricky racer. Sorry for the long post, I was just enjoying some memories, your videos do that to me. LOL Cheers.
Hi Donald, yes you can talk to others whilst recording. You can also record your voice and music along with the footage too. I’m only about 30-35 miles from Woodbridge, nice part of the country as you know there are lots of airbases in the area. Yep got to be careful in the lanes, I just enjoy getting lost whilst exploring and taking in the scenery. Hopefully I can bring back a few memories in future videos. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Thanks for the reply, I have not got around to checking out their website. I'm not much of a talker or blogger I don't even talk on my videos, you might see me in them now then I sort of sneak myself in them altough that might change one day, there are enough talking heads out there blathering on, I enjoy your rides through the country I find them interesting and the products you review at least you don't sound like a commercial. nice change from all the cement, asphalt and warehouses I see everyday. One of my favorites was to go to Felixstowe and watch the ships. I might have to fly over and hire a bike, and look for that ufo site in Rendelsham, I never did find it Lol
Hi Cotti, yes enjoying it thanks! That video should be coming in a couple of weeks maybe. The Street Twin has gone and the T100 isn’t mine, but that should be finished soon, just waiting for an exhaust
this sena tell u close before accu is empty or card is full recording time is in 1080p 60fps 4.30 h ca...better is to use a powerbank/powerbank with solar..so u can recording much more time;-)
Very informative vid, I have a ThiEYE which is fine but battery life is suspect, lots of spares!, like the idea of an all in one but if you were touring how would it cope? I.e how long will it’s battery life run for? Cheers Bunch
Are you talking about constantly filming or just the general use of the comms? Filming gives about somewhere between 1 and 2 hours but there is and option to power the unit via a USB port, so although it would mean having a cable running to it that would be an option.
Views from the Man Cave yes filming constantly well most of the time and downloading each day, going on my first French trip in June so just planning and thinking about kit now, plugging it in could be an option as it’s all in one but then again was planning on using phone based sat nav which as you know is a real battery drainer!
I think you have hit the nail on the head with this review... Go-Pro are a pain with regards to mic-ing them up. I have the hero 5 session and I would say that the Sena is just as compact after you have added the radge Go-Pro mic adaptor (and an external power supply). A really informative review too. Now, I need to write my letter to Santa!!!
Hi there, can you tell me what SD card you used? i have put a Sandisk 64gb in to mine and it wont have any of it.. After formatting it on several occasions.. Thanks paul
Good review thanks. I really like the way this camera records group voice when chatting with mates on a tour. Its a pity they don't have stabilisation. I will use both a GoPro Black and Sena 10C pro to get the best of both worlds. I notice the new 10C evo has now come out with 4K but it still does not have any stabilisation functionality and does not have Mesh intercoms which is a shame.
Cheers, yes I was using the Sena for audio and a few bits of video and a gopro hero 7 for the rest of the video. Would be interesting to see what the 10c Evo is like
It looks pretty good to me and the audio quality is excellent. The only thing I might want is some image stabilisation. I’m surprised they haven’t got 4K, but I always video in 1080p 60 so it would fit the bill. My favourite at the moment is the new Olfi camerawhich they claim has an external mic input and the ability to power it from the bike or other power source.
Nice simple review - like it As an Essex native myself I like your idea of day trips. Massive 3 week tours etc are nice visually but not that relevant unless you can blag it of course. No mention of video tagging Tony which I think is a nice feature? 2 downsides; 1) Sena force you to have the unit on the left side of the helmet - probably no real big deal if truth be told 2) The connectors across Senas stuff are all different which is frustrating. If they made them modular you could swap between camera & pure comms dead easily. And the 10C connectors are really delicate so need to keep an eye out. Good review though.
Thanks Nigel, yes I was going to cover video tagging but the video was long enough already. I’ll do a follow up covering some of the other functionality. The Smart Audio Mix is clever too. Yep I agree, left side is slightly more suited to countries who drive on the right maybe, but as you say not much of an issue, and of course operating it with your clutch hand on the move is safer I guess. Yep, and annoyingly GoPro won’t allow their Bluetooth to connect to comms units either, that would make capturing audio a breeze
Yep, for what it is I think its good. It's not going to compete with an 'all out' action cam, but i'm not sure its trying to. Yep hopefully they'll be a mini-tour down through the Garden of England. I'll et you know
How do you hook up the camera app so you can adjust your helmet one way or the other like you were saying I've been trying and I can't do it if you can notify me you know I'm subscribing I like your video by the way and I need all the help I can get this is Richard thank you
Great review...I don't think anything will match the GoPro for picture quality but the Sena looks like a great do everything device. And you can film something on the GoPro...review it and it's brilliant quality...then upload to UA-cam and find the quality diminished!. The footage you filmed in those light conditions was really good. Cheers, Steve
No probem, The easiest way to set it is via the Sena Camera app. in the configuration you can toggle it between Normal, timelapse and loop. Once its set it stays in the chosen mode until you change it again, even if you power off both headset and app
I'm after a new action cam. I've got the hero 4 black which is on its last legs now, the hero 7 is excellent but I can't be arsed with the enormous audio adapter and the extra expense. You can tell that's a Sena unit you have because of the non stabilised and not so good quality footage (sorry). I'm having a look at the Sony FDR-X3000, perhaps you could get one of those for review! Good Video.
Yep, if you are just after an action cam, this might not be the one to go for. It is after all a comms unit with a camera rather than the reverse. I hear good things about the Sony, but i've not tried one. I gave to admit though that I think the Sena is on par with the Drift cameras
Although it looks like the Sony will have that same issues as the GoPro with external microphone set ups. Plus its not waterproof and requires a case, so a further hassle if using on a motorcycle helmet
Agreed, but the Sony will take a Lav mic without the need for an adapter and if you get creative with a drill and the right size rubber grommet in the back of the waterproof casing (for the external mic cable to go through) it becomes waterproof again, enough for rain anyway. TTFN.
Sadly not at this point, my usual riding buddy also uses Sena (the 30k) so I haven't had the chance. If there is anyone here in the UK close who would like to try, let me know
I have this camera and my brother and sister in law have another Bluetooth comms system and I can only pair with one of them. This is fine unless all 3 of us go on a ride out. Once paired with either of them, the connection is remembered too so a one time job to get paired. What we did do when we were out together all 3 of us was to set up a WhatsApp conference call and we were all able to speak to each other that way. Not ideal, but a decent way to speak on comms and one advantage is that distance and objects don’t get in the way since you’re using the mobile network infrastructure and not the comms device Bluetooth, the downside is you’re also using your phone which eats the phone battery and means your phone is always engaged and no one can call you up.
Battery life is very short. I tried connecting a power bank to it and it didn't work until after the camera had a chance to charge up a bit. I believe there are two batteries in the unit. One for the intercom and the other for the cam. Can someone please confirm that? I was lucky to get about 1.5 hours out of it fully charged at 1080 dp 60fps...
What problems are you having? Firstly make sure you install the latest firmware upgrade. I have the mic set on medium gain, and the microphone is fitted to the side of my chin bar just ahead of the cheek pad, not directly in front of my mouth. I also have the chin sock fitted to the helmet and i guess my beard also acts as a dead cat!
@@mancavemoto I have the latest FW on it (version 2.0). I can't get it to record my voice on a decent level. I feel like I need to shout a bit while recording video so it plays just right during playback. Are you using the boom microphone?
Hi. Great review. Did the Triumph Tiger you were riding on the test have the Triumph bluetooth connectivity kit on it? I'd be interested to know if it could control the Sena 10c Pro from the bike?
I just bought the Sena 10C Pro. Did you have problems updating the firmware? I can't update mine. Just keep getting the error message 'failed to update firmware. Cannot get status file copy error (6)(0). Try again.' Sena haven't got back to me. Anyone else had the same problem?
Put in a smaller SD card and format it first. Solved the problem for me. I can record to a 64 gig card just fine, but to do the firmware update I had to put in a 32.
I use pro for a, year! Very very good and solid device! Just few days ago by new 10c Evo. Camera is big improvement! Brilliant device, still pro is ok but camera quality on Evo is much better
sure I didnt use the radio other than to test the quality. Are you talking about recording video whilst having the radio playing, or just using the radio and standard comms?
@@mancavemoto Looks like a great solution, however if riding all day and caught in the rain I assume it can't be run off external power. Shame Sena don't think about power connections to the mount in addition to the module especially with something that'll drain so quickly. It's main use is after all for dashcam mode. It's funny how Sena claim to be motorcycle riders and technology enthusiasts, but they could do better with the 10c Pro especially to have a flat intercom in a couple of hours for £350. I like Sena gear overall. Good review though thanks, knowing the 2hrs battery life I'll be looking for a different setup.
When filming and recording my voice (as well as being connected to my phone) about 1hr 30 mins. With the camera off the comms unit will last pretty much the whole day
I have a 10c pro myself, honestly I had high hopes for it and was completely let down like my ex girlfriend after a 3 minute sex session. The FM radio - There must be a problem with the antenna or something because it only picks up 50% of the known radio stations in my area (Western Australia) in the city aswell! Even when it picks up a station, it will struggle to keep constant frequency with the volume always changing as if its trying to pick up the station again. Also when locking the stations to only preselects it will sometimes randomly jump to a random station. When riding the whole quality also just goes down the toilet....The volume - Don't let the fancy volume control knob fool you. From what it looks like there are only 3-4 levels of volume and the change from the medium to high level of volume is a big jump and quite uncomfortable. It takes about 3 clicks of the knob to change it from one level to another which is quite strange. The battery - A pretty common fault from what I've heard in most sena products. I have this brand new unit and from fully charged it actually loses 1/4 of its charge over night from just sitting turned off! I also had this sitting for a week turned off (fully charged) and when I went to turn it on again it failed to start up. I tried to charge it for about 6-7 hours and it was still showing the red led (charging process) and wouldn't even turn on. After hitting the factory reset button (small button in the recessed hole) I managed to start it up Overall I was pretty disappointed with this whole experience, being the whole sena brand is marketing the 10c Pro as one of the best things going and the ultimate all in one unit. I will be hoping to get a refund...
Shame to hear that , doesn’t sound like you’ve had much luck. I personally don’t listen to music (or the radio) on the bike so I’m not concerned about the performance, although of course it should work. Mind you FM radio is notoriously fickle, a DAB system would be ace in that respect. I’v not had the battery drain issue you mention, and that might be worth talking to Sena about. There is obviously no reason for the battery to lose any charge when the device is switched off. I’m not a Sena ambassador, I’m merely reporting back on my experiences.
In reference here is some footage using the original 10C: ua-cam.com/video/u51K_c18cKY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Nuf7CekvfXs/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/O2dwsFQA4UU/v-deo.html the 10C was mediocre footage compared to the latest go-pro but the ease of use makes up for a lot :)
If they made the picture quality better, Sena would remove GoPro from the game. The image needs to be stabilized and not so washed out. The combination package is very appealing. I thinking that most of us just want a camera for insurance reasons anyway. I would gladly do away with my GoPro to have one simple unit like the 10c Pro if they improved it again.
Yes its getting there, but i guess if you look at what GoPro has spent in development to get the Hero 7 where it is, then that's where the difference is. I look at it as a coms unit with a camera as opposed to the other way around, so I think the quality is more than acceptable given that. If GoPro allowed Bluetooth comms connection for voice recording that would solve a lot of problems
Views from the Man Cave I agree. GoPro seems to have a serious desire to make decent audio inconvenient. The dash cam ability with all of the com system benefits is very appealing. But $350 is a lot for something with a camera on par with a GoPro hero 2/3. They will get there soon enough. Tbh, I don’t care who makes it, but whoever does will have the market cornered.
I guess it's better then nothing but I would expect more from a company as Sena. Video quality is not good at all. Looks like a chinese knockoff video quality product. I think Sena should stick to coms. Having a camera and com in one is a very good idea.
Yep it’s not going to compete with GoPro, just consider how much money and years of development has gone into the Hero 7. This is more of a dashcam/journey recorder than a cinematic solution.
Yes the GoPro 7 has set the bar high. But I look at this as a comms unit with a camera rather than the other way around. Its just a shame there isn't a better solution for recording audio straight to the GoPro!
I picked up a 10c Pro today in Australia for ~500 bucks. A hero 7 is ~600 bucks. $100 more expensive and it's only a camera. It's not reasonable to expect a device with tons more functions, and which is also significantly less expensive, to have anywhere near the camera quality of a dedicated action cam. I mean yeah, they *could* do it. But then the 10c Pro++ would be, what, 800 bucks or so?
Sena working with motorcycle riders by giving us what we need and not being an over priced piece of shit like go pro. Sena can connect to other blue tooth coms. Go pro isnt a com unit it's also not legal in most states because it protrudes out to far
Yep not really fair to compare the two. Quite different tools. The GoPro is a pain to fit, but I did also get a telling off from an Arai technician when my helmet was serviced. He said they spend lots of money making the helmets as safe and slippery as they can, and a camera mounted on the helmet jeopardises that!
@@mancavemoto the gopro is technically illegal on a helmet while the cena10c and 10cpro are within the legal limit. Helmets being slippery sounds like some bullshit tech talk since halmets being slippery has nothing to do with how the helmet fits
I@@mancavemoto I'm old and prefer switches and one click buttons. All this press two buttons for 2 seconds or turn on with a 5 second press or whatever puts me off. Rocker switches are probably impractical but preferable.
Hi. I purchase the original Sena 10c when it was first launched (I still have it) and have since purchased a number of actions cameras and other Sena comms devices (Sony AS200's YI 4k+ Sena 30k's) and recently, a go pro 7 and the Sena 10c pro. Comparing the the video quality between the 10c and the 10c pro, they look very similar albeit you can now shoot 1080p60 and 1440p@30.
The two things that were missing from my original sena 10c, was the fact you can now shoot 1080p and you now can preview a live video from a sena app to setup the orientation .
Setting up the orientation on the original Sena 10c was a real pain, as there was no camera preview, so it was trial and error through a series of recording until the orientation was sorted.
Comparing only video quality to my other actions cameras Sony AS200s, Yi 4k+'s Go pro 7, the Sena 10c pro is lacking and is no better than any budget action camera that cost less than £100 that shoots 1080p60.
The Sena 10c or the newer Sena 10c pro offer great value for money for moto vlogging or recording groups rides, listen to music or make and receive phone calls, all done from a single device.
You have to buy a Sena 10/20s or Sena 30k, a Go Pro camera, go pro mic adapter ,3.5mm stereo phone jack splitter, and 2 lava mics, which will set you back about £700- 900. to achieve the same functionality. I guess it comes down your pocket and the purpose of video content, and how invest you are in cinematography .
yep, good points Dev
I don't know why ppl always compare with a GoPro. The GoPro is an action cam. The Sena 10c Pro is an intercom, with cam. With the aim of being an intercom, and it gives you an extra with the cam. GoPro is a pure cam, and nothing else.
Exactly, that was the point I was trying to put across...
Problem is it doesn't really do anything all that well. Poor video quality. Has trouble connecting to other senas like the 20s or 30k. And what ever happened to the 10c evo?
@@MotorcyclesforTallRidersNow I dont know about that, my experience with this device (10c) is that there is no problem with other intercoms... 10c pro, well we will check that out this riding season.
10c evo... well I don't know, I don't work for Sena =)
Because many use the GoPro for moto vlogs. If this had decent video quality it would be direct competition to the GoPros. Unfortunately the quality is on par with a GoPro...from about 15 years ago. Any smartphone will have better video quality than this. I think the concept is great, they could have hit a homerun with this, but the video quality is just terrible compared to what you find even in the cheapest video cams on the market. Compression, dynamic range, colors, it's just horrendous. On a plus side, the sound is very clean.
@@Speedytrip If you like high quality vids and you care more about your channel then riding a motorcycle, then you go for a GoPro. If riding motorcycle means everything, riding with friends, using gps, etc... and you like to post now and then on YT, the Sena is great. Like I said before, you can't compare an intercom with an action cam. They are 2 different devices. And for that money the sena gives you a lot of options
I got the 10c pro last December and so far I'm personally happy with it on 1080p 60fps. You want the extra frames for shooting you're riding it matters more than 4k, most people watch UA-cam on phones anyway.
I like the music mix, if you play music it mixes it into the video, this can be turned off.
I simply find it to be the best all rounder out there, Jack of all trades master of non YET I find every aspect to it more than enough.
I haven't messed with the gain yet but I find I can't hear my motorbike loud enough, that's a possible down side.
Very true, and this never pretends to be a cinematic camera. If you want the equivalent of a dash cam on your bike this is perfect
If you had a phone call will this record the conversation and or if you had a passenger with the Bluetooth com will this record the conversation as well?
yes, it does record Bluetooth voice and video simultaneously. But I don’t think it records the phone call.
Nice to see it used in UK with left driving system (as well as in Japan), since the camera itself is on the left side of the helmet as well I was curious to see whether it would be much of a trouble. Good review overall, especially thinking that for that price basically you get 2 for 1.
Very good review, thanks.
I’m thinking of getting the Sena 10C on the basis of your assessment, although the video image quality is slightly holding me back.
At this late stage, I’m wondering if I’m just as well waiting for the next release/version which will probably be a further improved one and with better video image quality.
When is that likely to be, though...?
What do you think?
Worth just waiting?
Yes its hard to gauge, the video quality is fine if you are just using it as a 'dash cam' or for fun, when I mix it with my GoPro Hero 7 footage you can see the difference clearly. But the GoPro obviously doesn't do comms and you cant record your voice directly to it easily. I don't know if upcoming software upgrades would improve it. As its relatively new it might be a while until another version comes out I guess
@@mancavemoto
Yes, that's what I was thinking. I'll wait until a new version appears.
Thanks.
I like the fact I can use this on either of my helmets...which are already set up for the original 10C...
Just ordered mine from Revzilla...I’ve used a 10C (original) for 2 years and really have no complaints...and I like in NW Oregon, been in some rain with NO problems...but my R1200RT has excellent wind protection so I don’t get very wet if in motion.
I plan on using this with the RC4 handlebar remote (which worked well with the original 10C after the firmware update) so I don’t have to take my right hand off the bars to do intercom, camera, etc.
Hi Gregg, I've not tried the remote, but it could be useful? Looking at Sena's 2019 catalogue, it looks they are introducing a +Mesh device, which will add mesh connectivity to any of their existing comms units
The RC4 handlebar remote is VERY useful...I can control intercom, camera, phone and volume without taking my hands off the bars... and it just takes a few seconds to migrate it from one bike to another.
A firmware update this last year to the original 10C let it pair and work with the RC4...and the remote battery lasts about 6 months (it’s a small lithium CR2016).
Thanks for the heads-up on the mesh adapter...I’ll look into that.
thank. I think that some kind of mount on the selfie stick can be thought up and on the phone you can correct the image
Just bought one and looking forward to installing / using it . Cheers for a good video 🤟🏻
No problem
Great review! I got a 10C Pro myself for Xmas. Image quality looks better as it was on 10C, but still far behind Gopro. Audio is excellent. But considering it's communicator, radio, bluetooth, wifi and camera in one device, this is pretty good deal.
Yes I think the image quality is fine and I guess its not really fair to compare it directly to the GoPro Hero 7. If you did a side by side comparison the 10c would lose out on image quality, but would wipe the floor with the GoPro on communications and radio quality ;)
Nice and simple, thanks for another great video, Tony 🍻
No problem
Thank you for posting. This is clearest instructions I've found. Better than the manufacturer....
Glad it helped
Its good they’ve finally released a camera app, shame it doesn’t work with the original 10C. The camera quality is pretty decent. Good enough for motovlogging I reckon.
That is a shame. Yes I thought it was OK, and as I said it was straight out of the box. Its more than sufficient for its use, I wasn't expecting a 'cinematic' output
This is perfect for me now I want to add a intercom and have been thinking of changing my Bullet R cam anyway. The footage is good enough for what I want. thanks for a great review. had just been comparing intercoms up to now
No problem, glad you found it useful
Happy New Year! Thanks for the good review. I have a question about buying a motorcycle headset and I like 10c pro. I’m not a professional blogger but I think this is enough for amateur shooting. Do you think it is possible to remove the camera from the helmet in order to shoot some other angles not on the move, but just hold it in your hand or on some kind of tripod? I understand that it will be without sound, but is it possible. Thank.
Thanks Slavik, yes if you unplug the connector you can remove it and use handheld
Wow! Such a calming serine setting to ride through, juxtaposed with the fact that YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD!!! (nerve wracking!!)
Ha! No YOU’RE on the wrong side of the road 😁
Looks and sounds good. I picked up the sena prism and have been pretty pleased with the quality thus far using a sena 30k headset for the audio. Have you tried the prism? I would be interested to know your thoughts. 👍🏻
Ive not looked at the prism, I’ll check it out
I have the old SMH-10 headset. It can't multi-task. Riding solo, I can get map directions off of the phone. Use the phone to call, etc. BUT once the headset is paired with another headset, the navigation directions are gone and I can only hear the communication between riders. My son has the 20s, and he gets both navigation directions and rider to rider coms, seamlessly. Can this unit multi-task without having to punch buttons to switch between inputs (navigation and communication)?
How long does the battery last in your Tennessee I have one really haven't used it but I'm just curious how long the battery will last thank you by the way I love love the video
When youre not filming it lasts for hours. I got about an hour and half of continual filming time
A good brief review. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Thanks
Looking for simple all in one and like the look of the sena 10c pro. Have read a lot criticism about battery life, any thoughts on this?
It’s not the best if you have everything going together, but for longer use you can plug it into a USB port on the bike
Going by this video and for what it is, and for my usage, it looks like it’ll do the job, good job as I’ve ordered mine......
Yep, it’s not for Steven Spielberg, but the quality is good for what it is, and it’s a neat package
Voice commands never worked for me, I had to buy the remote 4...how about you ?
Got one and loving it at the moment... from the point of view of recording video and sound the Sena is way better than the Go Pro Hero 5 Session I was using. It is even more compact than the session as it needs the Mic adapter which has more bugs than "i'm a celebrity". Image quality in low light is superior to the session too. Cheers for the recommendation... We'll worth the £350 (though mine was a Xmas prezzie) and I haven't even used all it's features yet!!
‘More bugs than I’m a celebrity’ 😂😂 Yep I’ll trade off a bit of image quality for the ease and compactness of the set up
Would be nice to have a simple all in one solution, but video quality here is so bad... I guess we are not quite there yet.
When motovlogging now a days, I think your quality needs to be top notch.. hero 7 really set the bar for that tho I hate the external mic adapter....
It would, and this is the closest yet. Quality isn't on par with the Hero 7, but i guess this was aimed more at the Dashcam/recording your trips market as opposed to motovloggers or cinematographers. The simplest solution would be for GoPro to allow Bluetooth devices to connect and record voice directly.....it can't be that hard surely. Sena did it with the GP10 accessory
@@mancavemoto Yeah that would be nice.
its about $350.00 USD I may have to look into getting one, I have not had good luck with go pros on a motorcycle. I want to get more riding footage for my channel. Looks good enough to me and the audio sounds decent.
I need to check the website I wonder if you can talk to your mates while recording video.
Plus I want to get a drone . 😃
I miss those rural back roads in England, I was stationed at the former RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk County, love the country side and yes I would stop for the Horses, cattle, sheep and let the Farmers cross, never hurts to be polite I was never really in any hurry be it on my bike or in my Mini (1985 model). I learned to slow down because one time I doing the backroad boogie in the mini and came around a corner that was a cattle crossing and I found out that cow manure and michelins have zero friction cohesion and just about did slide into a ditch, luckily I was able to stop and realized I was being an idiot and luckily no one else was harmed. After that I started enjoying my country rides. Plus by stopping I got to meet some really nice folks, that was way better than being ricky racer.
Sorry for the long post, I was just enjoying some memories, your videos do that to me. LOL
Cheers.
Hi Donald, yes you can talk to others whilst recording. You can also record your voice and music along with the footage too. I’m only about 30-35 miles from Woodbridge, nice part of the country as you know there are lots of airbases in the area.
Yep got to be careful in the lanes, I just enjoy getting lost whilst exploring and taking in the scenery. Hopefully I can bring back a few memories in future videos. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Thanks for the reply, I have not got around to checking out their website.
I'm not much of a talker or blogger I don't even talk on my videos, you might see me in them now then I sort of sneak myself in them altough that might change one day, there are enough talking heads out there blathering on, I enjoy your rides through the country I find them interesting and the products you review at least you don't sound like a commercial.
nice change from all the cement, asphalt and warehouses I see everyday.
One of my favorites was to go to Felixstowe and watch the ships.
I might have to fly over and hire a bike, and look for that ufo site in Rendelsham, I never did find it Lol
The footage came out fine Tony. Hope your enjoying the XCA, I look forward to your XCA/XRT comparison review. Do you still have the ST & T100 as well?
Hi Cotti, yes enjoying it thanks! That video should be coming in a couple of weeks maybe. The Street Twin has gone and the T100 isn’t mine, but that should be finished soon, just waiting for an exhaust
How much recording time do you get with a 64 SD Card..at 1080 ?
And does the camera tell you how much time you have used, or how much time remaining ?
this sena tell u close before accu is empty or card is full recording time is in 1080p 60fps 4.30 h ca...better is to use a powerbank/powerbank with solar..so u can recording much more time;-)
Can the sharpening be turned off in the settings? I think this is why the footage looks so bad. I was going to buy one until I see this.
Possibly, I’ll take a look
Very informative vid, I have a ThiEYE which is fine but battery life is suspect, lots of spares!, like the idea of an all in one but if you were touring how would it cope? I.e how long will it’s battery life run for?
Cheers
Bunch
Are you talking about constantly filming or just the general use of the comms? Filming gives about somewhere between 1 and 2 hours but there is and option to power the unit via a USB port, so although it would mean having a cable running to it that would be an option.
Views from the Man Cave yes filming constantly well most of the time and downloading each day, going on my first French trip in June so just planning and thinking about kit now, plugging it in could be an option as it’s all in one but then again was planning on using phone based sat nav which as you know is a real battery drainer!
Thanks for the review. I have the previous model with the only downside being short battery life. I guess onboard running /charging is a possibility ?
Yes, you can plug the power cable in and run it off the bikes power supply or a battery pack
Simple and thanks for takin to fast like some people do on videos. Excellent video. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I think you have hit the nail on the head with this review... Go-Pro are a pain with regards to mic-ing them up. I have the hero 5 session and I would say that the Sena is just as compact after you have added the radge Go-Pro mic adaptor (and an external power supply). A really informative review too. Now, I need to write my letter to Santa!!!
thanks......Dear Santa.... ;)
Hi there, can you tell me what SD card you used? i have put a Sandisk 64gb in to mine and it wont have any of it.. After formatting it on several occasions.. Thanks paul
Usually a Lexar 633x 64gb, sometimes is a sandisk
Good review thanks. I really like the way this camera records group voice when chatting with mates on a tour. Its a pity they don't have stabilisation. I will use both a GoPro Black and Sena 10C pro to get the best of both worlds. I notice the new 10C evo has now come out with 4K but it still does not have any stabilisation functionality and does not have Mesh intercoms which is a shame.
Cheers, yes I was using the Sena for audio and a few bits of video and a gopro hero 7 for the rest of the video. Would be interesting to see what the 10c Evo is like
It looks pretty good to me and the audio quality is excellent. The only thing I might want is some image stabilisation. I’m surprised they haven’t got 4K, but I always video in 1080p 60 so it would fit the bill. My favourite at the moment is the new Olfi camerawhich they claim has an external mic input and the ability to power it from the bike or other power source.
yep image stabilisation would be good to have but by the same token it's not a stand-alone action camera.
Nice simple review - like it
As an Essex native myself I like your idea of day trips. Massive 3 week tours etc are nice visually but not that relevant unless you can blag it of course.
No mention of video tagging Tony which I think is a nice feature?
2 downsides;
1) Sena force you to have the unit on the left side of the helmet - probably no real big deal if truth be told
2) The connectors across Senas stuff are all different which is frustrating. If they made them modular you could swap between camera & pure comms dead easily. And the 10C connectors are really delicate so need to keep an eye out.
Good review though.
Thanks Nigel, yes I was going to cover video tagging but the video was long enough already. I’ll do a follow up covering some of the other functionality. The Smart Audio Mix is clever too.
Yep I agree, left side is slightly more suited to countries who drive on the right maybe, but as you say not much of an issue, and of course operating it with your clutch hand on the move is safer I guess.
Yep, and annoyingly GoPro won’t allow their Bluetooth to connect to comms units either, that would make capturing audio a breeze
does the camera have stability system or it is off? pretty shaky look like no picture stabilisation!
There is no image stabilisation on the camera
Great combo of uses in one, I'm tempted to get one myself. Let me know if you are in Kent on a mini tour!
Yep, for what it is I think its good. It's not going to compete with an 'all out' action cam, but i'm not sure its trying to. Yep hopefully they'll be a mini-tour down through the Garden of England. I'll et you know
How do you hook up the camera app so you can adjust your helmet one way or the other like you were saying I've been trying and I can't do it if you can notify me you know I'm subscribing I like your video by the way and I need all the help I can get this is Richard thank you
Great review...I don't think anything will match the GoPro for picture quality but the Sena looks like a great do everything device. And you can film something on the GoPro...review it and it's brilliant quality...then upload to UA-cam and find the quality diminished!. The footage you filmed in those light conditions was really good. Cheers, Steve
Thanks Steve, agree the GoPro give better image quality and the stabilisation on the 7 is amazing. But this is an excellent all round addition
Thanks for making the review!
How do you activate the video loop mode, and can it be set as the default?
No probem, The easiest way to set it is via the Sena Camera app. in the configuration you can toggle it between Normal, timelapse and loop. Once its set it stays in the chosen mode until you change it again, even if you power off both headset and app
I'm after a new action cam. I've got the hero 4 black which is on its last legs now, the hero 7 is excellent but I can't be arsed with the enormous audio adapter and the extra expense. You can tell that's a Sena unit you have because of the non stabilised and not so good quality footage (sorry). I'm having a look at the Sony FDR-X3000, perhaps you could get one of those for review! Good Video.
Yep, if you are just after an action cam, this might not be the one to go for. It is after all a comms unit with a camera rather than the reverse. I hear good things about the Sony, but i've not tried one. I gave to admit though that I think the Sena is on par with the Drift cameras
Although it looks like the Sony will have that same issues as the GoPro with external microphone set ups. Plus its not waterproof and requires a case, so a further hassle if using on a motorcycle helmet
Agreed, but the Sony will take a Lav mic without the need for an adapter and if you get creative with a drill and the right size rubber grommet in the back of the waterproof casing (for the external mic cable to go through) it becomes waterproof again, enough for rain anyway. TTFN.
Great initial review! Do you have any experience pairing the 10C Pro with other non-Sena headsets?
Sadly not at this point, my usual riding buddy also uses Sena (the 30k) so I haven't had the chance. If there is anyone here in the UK close who would like to try, let me know
I have this camera and my brother and sister in law have another Bluetooth comms system and I can only pair with one of them. This is fine unless all 3 of us go on a ride out. Once paired with either of them, the connection is remembered too so a one time job to get paired.
What we did do when we were out together all 3 of us was to set up a WhatsApp conference call and we were all able to speak to each other that way. Not ideal, but a decent way to speak on comms and one advantage is that distance and objects don’t get in the way since you’re using the mobile network infrastructure and not the comms device Bluetooth, the downside is you’re also using your phone which eats the phone battery and means your phone is always engaged and no one can call you up.
Battery life is very short. I tried connecting a power bank to it and it didn't work until after the camera had a chance to charge up a bit. I believe there are two batteries in the unit. One for the intercom and the other for the cam. Can someone please confirm that? I was lucky to get about 1.5 hours out of it fully charged at 1080 dp 60fps...
Thanks for the info
Can't you connect the Sena bluetooth for Go Pro and plug it on your Go Pro. Then your Sena 20s+ will work and record audio over bluetooth.
Sadly the Sena GP10 doesn’t connect to a hero7. I have done that in the past with my Hero 3 though
@@mancavemoto Umm ok. Go Pro is going nose down. Hope there's a hope for Go Pro 7.
@@FawadBilgrami yep it should be wel within gopros capabilities to allow bluetooth connection for voice recording
Any way to postprocess the video in a simple way? What is the easyest software
There are lots of ways, but none are particularly easy
Can you share your settings? I can't seem to have a decent voice recording when shooting video.
What problems are you having? Firstly make sure you install the latest firmware upgrade. I have the mic set on medium gain, and the microphone is fitted to the side of my chin bar just ahead of the cheek pad, not directly in front of my mouth. I also have the chin sock fitted to the helmet and i guess my beard also acts as a dead cat!
@@mancavemoto I have the latest FW on it (version 2.0). I can't get it to record my voice on a decent level. I feel like I need to shout a bit while recording video so it plays just right during playback. Are you using the boom microphone?
I’m not using the boom microphone, just the small wired bud microphone
@@mancavemoto Thanks!
Great video... thanks for sharing!
no worries
Great review & vlogging mate 👍👍
Thanks 👍
I hoped new version of this combination would produce a much better quality of video. Unfortunately, it remains dash cam use at best.
Hi. Great review. Did the Triumph Tiger you were riding on the test have the Triumph bluetooth connectivity kit on it? I'd be interested to know if it could control the Sena 10c Pro from the bike?
Thanks, and no sadly it didnt have the bluetooth module fitted. I must admit I've not seen its availability for the Tiger 800?
What resolution you use? 1440 30fr or 1080 60fr
He says at 7:00
Hi..can you charge 10c pro while using it, i meant can you connect to power bank while use in riding. tq
Yes, no problem
thank you
Great objective review. Thanks!
Thanks
I just bought the Sena 10C Pro. Did you have problems updating the firmware? I can't update mine. Just keep getting the error message 'failed to update firmware. Cannot get status file copy error (6)(0). Try again.' Sena haven't got back to me. Anyone else had the same problem?
Put in a smaller SD card and format it first. Solved the problem for me. I can record to a 64 gig card just fine, but to do the firmware update I had to put in a 32.
@@allmhuran had problem with update will try with smaler card hope it will work
Anyone know how effective these are with a louder bike ? and an open face helmet ?
Shouldn't make any difference, but you'll need a boom mic fitted
great set up and demo
I use pro for a, year! Very very good and solid device! Just few days ago by new 10c Evo. Camera is big improvement! Brilliant device, still pro is ok but camera quality on Evo is much better
I have an Evo on test at the moment, review coming soon and yes first impressions are its an improvement
@@mancavemoto very good device! You will love it!
Hi, can you tell me about the Batt recording time, with radio on? Thanks
sure I didnt use the radio other than to test the quality. Are you talking about recording video whilst having the radio playing, or just using the radio and standard comms?
@@mancavemoto both, recording with and without radio. Thanks
Thanks Tony a great review👍
Cheers
do you know how to adjust the treble/bass on the c10 comms?
I don’t no
Dosen't itbotter anyone that the video showes the side of the helment?
What is the battery life so can compare with go pro?
They're about the same, possibly a bit better.
I managed to get just under a couple of hours of continuous filming
@@mancavemoto Looks like a great solution, however if riding all day and caught in the rain I assume it can't be run off external power. Shame Sena don't think about power connections to the mount in addition to the module especially with something that'll drain so quickly. It's main use is after all for dashcam mode.
It's funny how Sena claim to be motorcycle riders and technology enthusiasts, but they could do better with the 10c Pro especially to have a flat intercom in a couple of hours for £350. I like Sena gear overall.
Good review though thanks, knowing the 2hrs battery life I'll be looking for a different setup.
Dave Edge it can be run off of external power, there is a 12v ‘cigarette lighter’ plug and lead in the kit
how long does the battery last?
When filming and recording my voice (as well as being connected to my phone) about 1hr 30 mins. With the camera off the comms unit will last pretty much the whole day
Your lanes are so small. On the point tho I can't find the proper apps for the camera
Good Video.
I have a 10c pro myself, honestly I had high hopes for it and was completely let down like my ex girlfriend after a 3 minute sex session.
The FM radio - There must be a problem with the antenna or something because it only picks up 50% of the known radio stations in my area (Western Australia) in the city aswell! Even when it picks up a station, it will struggle to keep constant frequency with the volume always changing as if its trying to pick up the station again. Also when locking the stations to only preselects it will sometimes randomly jump to a random station. When riding the whole quality also just goes down the toilet....The volume - Don't let the fancy volume control knob fool you. From what it looks like there are only 3-4 levels of volume and the change from the medium to high level of volume is a big jump and quite uncomfortable. It takes about 3 clicks of the knob to change it from one level to another which is quite strange.
The battery - A pretty common fault from what I've heard in most sena products. I have this brand new unit and from fully charged it actually loses 1/4 of its charge over night from just sitting turned off! I also had this sitting for a week turned off (fully charged) and when I went to turn it on again it failed to start up. I tried to charge it for about 6-7 hours and it was still showing the red led (charging process) and wouldn't even turn on. After hitting the factory reset button (small button in the recessed hole) I managed to start it up Overall I was pretty disappointed with this whole experience, being the whole sena brand is marketing the 10c Pro as one of the best things going and the ultimate all in one unit. I will be hoping to get a refund...
Shame to hear that , doesn’t sound like you’ve had much luck. I personally don’t listen to music (or the radio) on the bike so I’m not concerned about the performance, although of course it should work. Mind you FM radio is notoriously fickle, a DAB system would be ace in that respect. I’v not had the battery drain issue you mention, and that might be worth talking to Sena about. There is obviously no reason for the battery to lose any charge when the device is switched off. I’m not a Sena ambassador, I’m merely reporting back on my experiences.
In reference here is some footage using the original 10C: ua-cam.com/video/u51K_c18cKY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Nuf7CekvfXs/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/O2dwsFQA4UU/v-deo.html the 10C was mediocre footage compared to the latest go-pro but the ease of use makes up for a lot :)
Cheers
If they made the picture quality better, Sena would remove GoPro from the game. The image needs to be stabilized and not so washed out. The combination package is very appealing. I thinking that most of us just want a camera for insurance reasons anyway. I would gladly do away with my GoPro to have one simple unit like the 10c Pro if they improved it again.
Yes its getting there, but i guess if you look at what GoPro has spent in development to get the Hero 7 where it is, then that's where the difference is. I look at it as a coms unit with a camera as opposed to the other way around, so I think the quality is more than acceptable given that. If GoPro allowed Bluetooth comms connection for voice recording that would solve a lot of problems
Views from the Man Cave I agree. GoPro seems to have a serious desire to make decent audio inconvenient. The dash cam ability with all of the com system benefits is very appealing. But $350 is a lot for something with a camera on par with a GoPro hero 2/3. They will get there soon enough. Tbh, I don’t care who makes it, but whoever does will have the market cornered.
Cool😎I need one to record my videos😃
It'll certainly do that, if possible i'd plump for the newer 10c Evo
WiFi is very slow. Downloads take forever. Great video clarity. I’d rather use my home WiFi to download.
Very true
for the money it's a great deal. cost alot more for a gopro and bluetooth headset seperately.
yep
very helpful video for not buying this shaky ass product, i m better of with gopro or dji action camera. thank you..
I guess it's better then nothing but I would expect more from a company as Sena.
Video quality is not good at all. Looks like a chinese knockoff video quality product.
I think Sena should stick to coms.
Having a camera and com in one is a very good idea.
Yep it’s not going to compete with GoPro, just consider how much money and years of development has gone into the Hero 7. This is more of a dashcam/journey recorder than a cinematic solution.
@@mancavemoto So true. Not much can really compare to gopro 7 or Sony Action Cam-FDR-X3000R when it comes to video quality.
Agree, the stabilisation on the new hero 7 is amazing!
I wouldn't be caught dead with a gopro in my head
Sorry but the footage without stabilization is just pants, great idea but needs to be on par with gopro.
Yes the GoPro 7 has set the bar high. But I look at this as a comms unit with a camera rather than the other way around. Its just a shame there isn't a better solution for recording audio straight to the GoPro!
I picked up a 10c Pro today in Australia for ~500 bucks. A hero 7 is ~600 bucks. $100 more expensive and it's only a camera. It's not reasonable to expect a device with tons more functions, and which is also significantly less expensive, to have anywhere near the camera quality of a dedicated action cam.
I mean yeah, they *could* do it. But then the 10c Pro++ would be, what, 800 bucks or so?
allmhuran Yep agree, it would probably be more!
Sena working with motorcycle riders by giving us what we need and not being an over priced piece of shit like go pro. Sena can connect to other blue tooth coms. Go pro isnt a com unit it's also not legal in most states because it protrudes out to far
Yep not really fair to compare the two. Quite different tools. The GoPro is a pain to fit, but I did also get a telling off from an Arai technician when my helmet was serviced. He said they spend lots of money making the helmets as safe and slippery as they can, and a camera mounted on the helmet jeopardises that!
@@mancavemoto the gopro is technically illegal on a helmet while the cena10c and 10cpro are within the legal limit. Helmets being slippery sounds like some bullshit tech talk since halmets being slippery has nothing to do with how the helmet fits
Save your money
....and buy the 10c Evo
Sorry but what a faff operating the device is.
A faff? Seemed pretty straightforward to me
I@@mancavemoto I'm old and prefer switches and one click buttons. All this press two buttons for 2 seconds or turn on with a 5 second press or whatever puts me off. Rocker switches are probably impractical but preferable.
I hear you. It becomes second nature after a while, quite intuitive
Thank you for your input. Saying hello from SoCal.
No worries! SoCal....nice, wherabouts?