About Cyno from A MAJOR MAIN AND ENJOYER 1.He is an extremely fun unit who if you pick up may end up enjoying 2.He's a hypercarry which results in MAJOR investment like 3 5stars(Furina,Nahida and Baizhu) 3.Extremely strong but niche My guy is probably a top 5 or 3 boss killer right now in his best team outdamaging a C0 Raiden and even Alhaitham( in single target) but the two are more flexible than him making them have better pull value 4.Personally most of you guys likely have a Nahida and a Furina in your account soooo it won't hurt your account to pull for Cyno if you do,for Baizhu he can be replaced by Yaoyao and it'll be fine just rotation is gonna change a bit also Yelan or Xingqiu can replace Furina Pick up Cyno if you like him and on the fence about it and if you have units to support (Much love from a dedicated Cyno main❤)
@@imakeangelscry That depends If you're running 4pc Thundering Fury or not I can run 4pc thundering with a fav on my Yelan with 122 er, but to be safe aim around 135 or higher sometimes Cyno may kill an enemy to fast you don't wanna be caught lacking by the next wave of enemies in the abyss
i got cyno when he came out last week and he became literally my second strongest characther in the game (number 1 being itto, i love playstyles like this) and cyno is probably the most fun i've had in a long time, he may not be the strongest, but he's fun and that's what matters, i'll try and get his weapon, and nahida when she reruns again, and thanks for the recomendations :D
main problem for me is just using him open world can be painful because of him being burst oriented. BUT with fontaine having enemies with more hp its not that big of an issue. Also furina actually has enough uptime for the entirety of cyno's burst so thats a plus
@@alternativealan531 yeah.. hes def not an open world char... its not fun... but against bosses and bif enemy in spiral abyss... is really hard to come close to him in the fun department
I don’t understand why Cyno always gets singled out. Im aware his best teams are very expensive, but at the same time, his best team is also one of the best single target/small AoE teams in the game. Every single hyper carry’s best teams requires very high investment and expensive units if you want to see the best out of them, and like them, you can replace his best team members with other more accessible characters like dmc and fischl at the cost of performance, just like other hyper carries. The only to this that I can think of atm is Alhaitham and Neuvillete. And now that we have supports to facilitate his long field time, I feel like people need to take another closer look.
@@akamistify doesn't cut it lmfao imagine needing 3 5 star supports, 1 tailor-made for him and his signature weap only to still be beaten by a hutao or alhaitham with only 2 5 star supports , a 4 star , and with only 4 star / 3 star weap
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz I have Cyno's premium team, as well as Alhaitham's. R1 C0 for both. They are very similar in damage output, Cyno is just clunkier because he is burst reliant. He is definitely not bad at all. He is one of the most skill-intensive characters as well, because if you aren't doing the right combos on him you are out of luck. Alhaitham can do good damage even if you screw up your mirror timing since he is also an enabler for your supports to do DPS instead of being the hypercarry. Saying Cyno "doesn't cut it" is disingenuous and rage-baiting. I also have C0 R1 Hu Tao with a C0 Yelan, C6 Xingqiu, C0 Zhongli. She feels better in ST, but in AoE she falls off incredibly hard. Cyno can do both, with slight favor towards ST due to Nahida.
@@TryphectaOG cyno is worse than hu tao in aoe lmfao especially against multiwave, also who even uses zhongli in hu tao teams these days zhongli variants are the worst hu tao team variants dps wise lmfao only used by skill issued gamers
Cyno teams are quite expensive is a similar problem to Itto, their teams have many limited character and high constellation 4*. And because of how they work, as you mention, their onfield burst are disabled when they switch out that also limits the other units that can work with them. I like this video Moga, talking about the possible drowbacks of certain characters is important, since I have seen a ton of people regret or complain about pulling for X or Y and having a poor gameplay experience or not enjoying the playstyle at all.
I would say that out of Cyno's best teammates, Nahida and Baizhu are the most must-haves, both for utility and what their kit has to offer. Furina is the BiS in the Hydro slot, but you can still use Xingqiu or Yelan, and the best in the Electro slot are Shinobu and Fischl. For those who want to play with Cyno, it's an expensive situation, but his best teams involve very good characters to have in your account anyway.
imo cyno has never been "bad" he just dosent have many supoorts that can keep up with his needs unlike others. he slowly getting more and more long lasting supports so hes getting better overtime
The thing about Cyno is that he can be very strong, but he needs to be in the right teams; teams that can specifically play around his long on-field time and make it work. And some of the characters that facilitate that playstyle are other limited 5 stars. There are alternatives for some of them that are easier to get, but the list of characters you can pair with him effectively is not super large. So, if you care about the meta, it's probably better to go for those limited 5 stars first before you go for him. But also, and here's the secret people don't wanna tell you, the meta really doesn't matter all that much if you don't want it to. Like, one of the problems with Genshin is that there's very little endgame content that pushes your characters to the limit, but it's arguably an upside too since you can really just go for characters you want most of the time and still be able to play the game. So, like, if Cyno looks fun and you like his personality, go for it. Thats more important than what characters are technically the strongest. Don't regret pulling for him the first time at all.
Thanks; that is precisely what I needed to hear; I keep seeing ppl shitting on cyno and I just pulled him but I dont have all 3 of his best teammates-- but honestly I dont really care. 🤷♀️ Fun over meta.
Not me seeing this after pulling for cyno and almost giving up everything for him? I hope this video is not too bad about him😭 CAN YALL STOP FIGHTING UNDER MY COMMENT? DON'T YOU NEED TO GO TO WORK/SCHOOL OR SMTH😭
cyno really isnt bad, hes just really investment heavy and does way better with specific characters. his best team by miles is furina cyno nahida baizhu which is 4 limited five stars. his weapon is also a huge dps bump. if you dont have some of those characters, he can still work in teams like cyno xingqui/yelan nahida/dmc fischl
cyno is great, his biggest problem is that even though his burst lasts forever he is kind of weak outside of it. so in open world cyno is a little bit meh because you won't wastw his burst on a hilichurl camp but cyno will take forever to take it down without it. other than that cyno is great!
Cyno is good, just very hands on and expensive compared to other characters. Thats kinda the point of characters like him and xiao. Theyre meant to be really cool and have very smooth and fun playstyles, but because they are hypercarrys they need more investment and long duration buffs. At his best, cyno is comparable to al haitham
As a cyno haver from his first banner, he’s triple crowned with his signature weapon. If u like the character and invest into them they’re gonna be good. I saw someone 36* the abyss with freaking dps diona so that makes my point clear👍🏻 and I know this isn’t a showcase but thundering fury was going to be better for cooldown reduction here since you’re doing reactions.
I run Cyno, Nahida, Yelan (R5 Fav) and Kazuha. And he absolutely shreds anything he comes across. But I understand some people may not want to invest in a character this much but he's just so fun to play.
I just built my cyno recently, I've always really liked his gameplay and had him partly built but I finally went for it. I dumped a bunch of trash artifacts into the Strongbox for thundering fury. Got him with 1800 atk, 400 em, 70 CR, and 240 CD with Homa and my accidental c1.
A few things: His rotation with furina is: Furina E, Nahida EQ, Furina Q, baizhu EQ and then cyno stuff. Now we have artifacts. Just... run thundering fury. Like just do it man, the combo with TF is not complicated. You just kinda spam E unless you get knocked back or something else, which is where cyno becomes more skillful and takes a few runs to get the hang of it. With TF you won't be running into ER issues unless you haven't built enough er onto him (130-140 % er). The "he needs/wants fishl" is not true, use fishl elsewhere unless you're playing cyno aggravate for some reason. All of that being said: I agree with the issue of not being able to swap out. Like why can noelle do it and cyno can't. Other than that, great unit! Not mid at ALL. People say "oh he's mid" when he's competing being top 5 single target dps (which is pretty huge). And no, you don't NEED to swap out of him to reapply her trikarma, just finish his rotation and you'll still be doing dmg with xq/furina baizhu.
Honestly the main reason I wanna pull for Cyno no matter what is because I have this one teacher that won't stop cracking the worst jokes in the history of humankind and he's my absolute favorite. He's known as Cyno to me and my friends now lol
I've had him since first banner and he's never been benched... Used him in every abyss, and I use him in open world when I have no friendship teams going. Doing 30k skills and absolutely destroying content only with Nahida Barbara and Fischl/Venti depending on my mood. @@aqgaming1092
Got C1 Cyno on his initial release. He's very fun to play but needs heavy investment to feel like you would expect him to. Maybe a few months ago I would've said I regretted pulling for him, but he's a really good on-field DPS for someone who doesn't have a lot of other options. Also, grinding for those damn beetles he needs to ascend is absolute hell on earth.
I'm not sure if you got a response like this on your previous video using Liam as a test dummy, and excuse my comment if you already figured it out in the time since, but I think you read the part about Liam's stats on the wiki wrong. Because of his elemental mastery, Liam is the one who gets a damage bonus against you if he procs aggravate from his electro attacks, he doesn't have any lesser resistance to it.
My Cyno is my first C6 and I just got him from R1 to R3, maybe will go all the way to R5 because I just like him THAT much. Cyno isn't bad unless "good" strictly means "versatile" or "quickswap". He isn't a jack of all trades like say Nahida, or Zhongli. A bit tired of seeing him be singled out always ):
Been maining Cyno and just got Neuvillette for fun, their gameplay is like night and day. Neuvi is the most broken character and needs no team to accomplish that but at the same time hes pretty brain dead and boring to play after a while, Cyno is definitely more engaging and exciting to play, he just needs a good team to shine and when you give that to him he’s one of the strongest characters in the game(no joke). But I have to agree he’s only someone you get if you really like them same with other hypercarries.
Just got him this patch 4.2 and boy this guy is a lot of fun! I run double electro ( Yae ) so no energy issues for me whatsoever already cleared Abyss with him despite him just haviing 1,6,7 talents ( lol 'm broke ), for me he's on the Wanderer level hack and slash no brainer gameplay of fun
I wouldn’t discourage people by saying his team is expensive. The video already stated fischl but kuki, xinqiu, and though expensive she’s very popular, yelan all work great with him. Kuki provides healing and assists in hyperbloom, xinqiu gives the best hydro application and his rain shield combined with cyno’s resistance keeps him from being interrupted except for a VERY strong attack. Nahida and/or baizhu are really his only 5 star needs
Cyno is great, but like Wriothesley, the more shit you got, the better he is. A complete opposite to Neuvi, where use pamber and already you're dishing out relevant figures.
The weird thing about cyno is that he does like to have a lot of other 5 star units, but those units (nahida, furina, baizhu) are very good outside of Cyno teams and you're likely to have at least some of them even if you aren't pulling specifically him. Even his signature weapon is insane on a lot of different units. He's relatively inflexible but the pieces you want that make him work are VERY flexible.
I understand for some ppl Cyno can be trash or boring. Everyone has their taste. I personally love Cyno’s character and gameplay. He’s my 2nd fav and I was waiting for him for ages. I have his weapon and him at c5. I’m trying to get his c6 now (currently at 45 pity not guaranteed) I can’t take him off my team or Kazuha 😂❤ I would have managed to c6 him if I didn’t pull for furina and baizhu, but hey, getting the best teammates for him is better than cons My current Cyno team is him, baizhu, nahida, furina
I feel like he is okay in a similar way to Yoimiya. He can definitely pack a punch but I feel like they made his base kit weaker because they were scared that Aggravate would make him too powerful 😅
Okay, a few things here that need to be addressed. The conclusion of the video is good though (Cyno = good, but not must have, like... Well, arguably every unit). Cyno is far from being bad. He's great, but he does have some pre-requisites : - While he can be on field for 18 secs, you usually don't want him to stay for that long. You usually want to swap out after 14 sec or so, depending on your team or your opponent's health (it's worth staying a bit longer if you know you'll kill the opponent). - Fischl is an amazing unit to pair Cyno with : insane off field single target damage and battery. But Cyno's actual best team doesn't use her : Cyno / Furina / Nahida / Baizhu - If you don't use Fischl, then you need ER. That's great because Cyno's best artifact set is NOT Gilded Dreams nor Maréchaussée, but Thundering Fury. Always. Even when Furina is in the team. The extra E help a LOT in reaching Cyno's ER requirements and dealing damage, while the 4pc effect also provides a nice damage bonus to electro reactions. - Yes, his team are usually expensive. Not constellation locked, but kinda character locked. But he still functions without premium units : Cyno / DMC / Xingqiu / YaoYao is great ! - Cyno is not a must have at all : he can easily be replaced with Miko or Keqing. Performances will vary depending on the team though. TL;DR : Cyno is great, but is not irreplaceable in his teams. Also, please build him with TF and enough ER.
I'm a Cyno main and I can say he saves my game. (Best character I have) I do a lot of damage with him without to have even all what he needs and my team is formed of my first main, who'll never leave my team, Kaeya then I go with Benny and Aether on Dendro. And yeah! I got 20k damage already with him. And I'm more than far of his best build. Plus you need to know how to play with him to don't die that easily.. He'll be my main till the end of the game! I enjoy Genshin travelling with him and I'll do my best to get him C6 and his weapon R5 in future. He is definitely a must pull. 💜
Ayato was my first 5 star when I got into genshin last year and I still use him at AR 57. He carried my account and I still do abyss with him. He's so versatile and fun to play. Bloom/hyperbloom with him is so satisfying. Using him with Ayaka or Ganyu is also delicious. Idrc about meta. As long as my characters do damage and kill enemies easily (which they do), idc. Ayato is great to me and I recommend pulling for him if you like his design and play style.
I strongly don't agree regardign Fishl. I have been playing Cyno since the release and never needed Fischl to close all the stars. I never played him with double electro, but double dendro teams
I have to say, my biggest problem with Cyno was wasting his burst, because I was putting him in abyss on levels with waves of enemies, since his burst takes so long to run out, but also having a need to apply dendro to enemies. I solved by... putting him instead on floors with bosses! And I have to say, he's doing SO much better, like clear his part on floor 12 in less than a minute better.
As a cyno main that loves to just unga bunga content, he is definitely one of the harder dps’ to play. I have him c0r1 and triple crowned and i believe he hits like a truck IF you play him right. Quickbloom is his strong suit so my favorite team with him atm is Cyno, Furina, Baizhu, nahida/fischl/zhongli. As for artifacts highly recommend thundering fury as it makes his playstyle more fun and it’s easier to farm because you can strongbox it. He isnt that meta, but if you invest into him and learn his playstyle, he will be VERY good.
I play c0 cyno with (no fischl bc I don’t have one) nahida/furina/and Jean vv against bosses she actually ends up swirling electro pretty commonly and I have a PJWS r1 and a er sands I’m going for his weapon still and I don’t have many er problems on the team only on nahida sometimes but Jean has around 200 er as well as furina (nahida has 106)😭 and cyno has 168🤷🏾♂️
I like how ayatos summarization is just neuvillette,like sure ayato can fit into many teams but neuvi probably still be doing more damage solo compared to his teams 😂
The characters that punch or have like an infused melee (wriothesley, cyno, razor, dehya, and heizou) have some of the most fun and satisfying playstyles but are all held back either by damage numbers or general quality of life issues. It's so annoying.
Correct me if I'm wrong. A fix to Cyno's long burst duration is to treat it as a 15s (or lower) burst, not 18s. and swap characters early, think of the long burst as a bonus 3s and swap out when all buffs are gone.
@@imakeangelscry yeah to solve that... I basically made every support become a battery for him. Yelan having 200 er with favonious bow, Nahida having Fruit of Fulfilment, Baizhu using Favonious Codex, and my Cyno having 150 er just from substats (i somehow managed lol). With this team setup... You basically get more than enough energy before his burst even ends
In my opinion getting c2 cyno is better than getting c4 Neuvi, because Neuvi is already cracked af at c0, you don’t rly need more damage except you‘re so bad at the game that you can’t 36 abyss not matter which characters you use.
@@aqgaming1092 вау ты очень много срешь пустословием в комментариях, которое ничего не изменит. и твое поведение выглядит действительно сильно озабоченным всего-лишь из-за чужого мнения. поправляйся, измученный геншиненок.
I think that my biggest problem with Cyno is that he is a very expensive unit to be very good. He kinda needs many 5 stars to be his best, and that's more investment for less result than other hypercarries
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz He was the most used healer this abyss btw and will prolly still be at least top 3 for a good while. Believe it or not, Baizhu is great now.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz That's clearly not the reason he was one of most used, real reason being Furina. He is healer with the highest synergy with Furina. The most used team this abyss was - Neuvilette, Furina, Baizhu, Kazuha, For the first half. There's absolutely no need for dendro in the first half, yet this was most used. Says something, eh?
Ayato is really good in an hyperbloom team with Nahida, Kuki, him and either an anomo character or a healer like kokomi. From my experience is he really good if you build him well, Nevillette will probably be better but I use both of them and sometimes ayato performs better then neuvillette (in my opinion)
Because childe skill is an elemental skill, not a burst that costs fucking 80 energy and will always have a 20s cooldown regardless of if you switch out early
In an older IWTL video he kind of showed that Cyno is literally replaceable in his BiS team or rater the team is better of with someone else. Idk if that still holds up but yea lol
IWTL also rotated Cyno's team like absolute garbage not even casting Xingqiu's rainswords to generate blooms and then doing Kuki's normal attacks for like 20 times for some reason as if she was the onfielder. Even if his point happened to be correct, I wouldn't trust him at all with his takes.
I use him in a hyperbloom team most of the time, f2p so my team is Cyno, dendro traveler, xingqiu, and fischl I can clear domains fast, but overtime i got bored of playing him. i still really like him, but theres just better and more fun characters and teams out there He should get his own artifact set the next time he gets a rerun, cause he desperately needs it
Hes a really good character but has misconceptions due to his release state with supports not being good with him. Absolutely not a necessary or even high value pull but he is still a great carry.
Cyno mains coming up with every excuse to defend him 😂 Bruh he got good supports now. People can change their mind. But they just don't like him. Don't stay in the state of denial. Accept that people have a preference 😂
I main Cyno, also c2 :) I love him so much, I run him 2 peice wanderer, 2 peice gladiator, im working on getting 4pc gilded, My team is Cyno, Collei, Dendro traveler, Kuki Shinobu, i would replace collei or traveler with kirara or nahida but I dont have them yet so I run collei with elegy for end and kuki with 4pc tenacity, Kuki also helps a lot with er and i make sure to use her skill right before I use cynos ult to get her ring for as much of it as possible. Also make sure to dodge when your in your burst, running kuki with high er or someone with a favonius weapon will help you get it back if its not already when your done ulting :) live laugh cyno
@@maimaibiri9045 no i'm talking about saying that *fishl is gonna steal aggravates* and i say that thats not how aggravate works since aggravate is a reaction via quicken that any electro attack can trigger and get incresed dmg theres no such thing as another electro character stealing cyno's aggravate
I mainly pull for characters that have a very fun playstyle and characters that are amazingly written... Cyno is both 🔥🙏 After i get Arlecchino c0r1 i will start saving for Cyno (goal c6r1)
Yeah tho people want to see for themselves if the character's really that bad or are people just bad at building also its useful for other people to see if they should pull or not you know how reviews work right?
The pure DPS might be close yeah But alhaitham can clear bosses and multiwaves easily While cyno struggles with multiwaves That's why alhaitham is a lot better
Please be for real. I highly doubt a 4 star character with a 4 star weapon is doing 1.2 mil per cycle unless they have insane buffs.@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
I think it's less I have crappy builds and more you have high standards. The only characters I've seen reach that number are ultra dps' who've been built beyond the boundaries of reason and have cracked supports. And really it's only Eula and Itto.@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
@@godscholar2403 if ur xiangling doesnt do atleast 55k per pyronado your acc is an embarassment, if ur xingqiu in national doesnt do 6k per rainsword ur acc is an embarassment, if u cant vaporize every hit of xianglings ur an embarrassment, if u cant vaporize xingqiu skills ur trash at the game,if u cant double swirl ur trash at the game, if ur national team cant even reach 1.2m dpr thats pathetic simple as that
i already have a lot of good units+characters I personally like so I've been just spending wishes on cyno bc he's a personal fav of mine. 78 wishes and no 5 star yet :(, I also have to win the 50/50 😭
Ive got a strong c2 cyno, imo hes kind of high investment/whaling character. Ive been playing for 2 years so ive got a bunch of team options, i really wouldnt recommend him if youre f2p or early on. Mostly because 1. He doesnt have a perfect team because of burst duration and 2. He absolutely shines the brightest against a big, chunky boss. The problem is there arent any and you just feel like he never gets a chance to flex. If there ever was a massive hp boss, hes who im bringing. I wanted to use him today and killed the primo geovishap before i got a second 'e' off
Cyno/Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu is one of his best teams and relatively accessible. He's definitely better in single target but I've easily 36 star'd abyss with him virtually every patch since he's come out
Cyno has long ult duration but you dont need to finish the whole duration. As a cyno enjoyer i always swap him out if his energy is full or near full to restart the rotation and re apply the off field buffs/skills. And after rotating, going back to cyno with his burst ready. I use thundering fury for more E in his burst. C0R1 double crown cyno haver👋
He's not bad. He's just a little worse than yae / c6lisa in quickblooms, his optimal team. He's got a bit lower dmg and cant be swapped out easily. He's still a good option since some people hate yae's totem, and lisa's stationary animation.
I have Baizhu, Furina, and Nahida. Also got good artifacts for him. Pulling for Cyno for me is a no brainer 😂 Will pull for R1 in his next rerun for sure.
Well cynos main issues isnt his team dps, its just that his play-style feels way worse than replacing him with and off-fielder could do the same, and he just doesnt offering anything at all for staying on field except decreasing your hblooms dmg a bit since you dont build him full em usually… TL;DR:a hypercarry doesnt fit in bloom teams very well
he just need a xingqiu/yelan + furina but dendro version, basically a good dendro off-field applier(xq/yl) with long uptime(fur). So yeah, we will have to wait, until then, he will still suffer from his long on-field burst
You know what’s absolutely crazy. You don’t have to use the entire duration of Cyno’s burst! Wow, mind blowing right! Seriously, just because he can go up to 20 seconds of burst time, who says you have to use the entirety of it. You can always swap out early to reapply any buffs necessary
My only problem with Cyno is that I already have (and love) Raiden and Fischel. It's why I didn't pull for the boss man of the prison, as I have and love Ayaka and Ganyu. There is nothing wrong with either unit, it's just a massive investment to raise them when I already have two stellar units ready to go. However, I will own up to having waaaaaaay too many Hydro units 😆 They are my weakness! They are all so lovely and their element has spectacular husbando specimens 🤣
Hey Moga! Just wanted to say that you really have all my respect. Keeping up with not only genshin impact which is hard on its own but also honkai star rail and other games as well. We would understand if you need a break sometime. Take care of yourself!
you should try using prototype amber on nahida with a healing bonus circlet because the healing from her burst will be enough to get max stacks on furina because yours is c2 and replace baijhu with something more useful like fishl or beidou
I'm f2p and i have a c2 cyno and i rarely use him, not because his kit is weak but because i don't enjoy using him but from the time when i used him for a while here are some things that i strongly believe that no one ever brings up about him 1. just because his burst has a long duration doesn't mean he's bad because of it, if you need to switch units, no one is stopping you, it genuinely pisses me off when people complain about the duration of an on field character like they have no other option and when they stay on for the entire duration they're punished for doing so like the best example of this is childe, treat him more like a hybrid main/ sub dps, only use his skill for as long as you need to and by the time you restart your rotation and then get back to childe for dps again you should have your skill off cooldown. 2. cyno feels like he needs his c2 to be good, i understand that he can be good without it but with how well his c1 and c2 are in general and their synergy his damage feels kind of nutty 3. hot take, skyward spine is his best weapon, i know pitchforks and here's a list of reasons of why i'm wrong but just hear me out, cyno's burst is a pretty lengthy burst and every couple seconds you're supposed to use your skill to do the most amount of dps right? by the time you finish your burst you will nearly have enough energy to use your burst again already, so the reaosn why i believe skyward spine is his best weapon is because its passive works great on him but it is also a great stat stick due to the energy recharge
i got ayato in my first 10 pull lol, i was not expecting that at all, i just always liked his design so i thought why not try my luck and baam, I am a neuvi fan tho but love building all charas
@@columbinadamselettefan Generally speaking, she isn't nearly that bad, energy-wise. Her A4 gives her a bit of bonus energy, and weapon-wise, she can be given the Katsuragikiri Nagamasa or use a fav herself. Her issues lie more in other areas, not her energy needs. Honestly, if you need 4 favs to battery any character, that's a behind the keyboard problem, and not one with the character. That said, it is understandable that people don't use Dori with Cyno. Besides her general kit issues, Cyno's long on-field time means Dori loses out on an elemental skill use. That means fewer particles, fewer A4 procs, and fewer Katsaruagikiri procs. Cyno will give quite a few characters energy issues with his long on-field time.
@@Axterix13 I just use Sacrificial Greatsword and a recharge piece. Between that, and passive she has 100% uptime. That’s before things like electro resonance and other party members. As far as Cyno goes, she consolidates energy and healing really well to make room for Nahida and a flex slot. I know it isn’t the premium option but I’ve found that she really does help a lot of C0 Cyno complaints.
I will just boile it down for you Cyno good character but not meta Ayato really nice flexible character But neuvillette exists You can either follow the meta and get characters because they are strong even if they aren't fun to play Or pull charctcers that you like their gameplay,design,personality You will probably still be able to clear everything in the game with them if you put enough investment.
About Cyno from A MAJOR MAIN AND ENJOYER
1.He is an extremely fun unit who if you pick up may end up enjoying
2.He's a hypercarry which results in MAJOR investment like 3 5stars(Furina,Nahida and Baizhu)
3.Extremely strong but niche
My guy is probably a top 5 or 3 boss killer right now in his best team outdamaging a C0 Raiden and even Alhaitham( in single target) but the two are more flexible than him making them have better pull value
4.Personally most of you guys likely have a Nahida and a Furina in your account soooo it won't hurt your account to pull for Cyno if you do,for Baizhu he can be replaced by Yaoyao and it'll be fine just rotation is gonna change a bit also Yelan or Xingqiu can replace Furina
Pick up Cyno if you like him and on the fence about it and if you have units to support
(Much love from a dedicated Cyno main❤)
how much er do u have on urs? im struggling to burst every rotation running solo electro w fav sword on a teammate 😭
@@imakeangelscry That depends If you're running 4pc Thundering Fury or not
I can run 4pc thundering with a fav on my Yelan with 122 er, but to be safe aim around 135 or higher sometimes Cyno may kill an enemy to fast you don't wanna be caught lacking by the next wave of enemies in the abyss
i got cyno when he came out last week
and he became literally my second strongest characther in the game (number 1 being itto, i love playstyles like this) and
cyno is probably the most fun i've had in a long time, he may not be the strongest, but he's fun and that's what matters, i'll try and get his weapon, and nahida when she reruns again, and thanks for the recomendations :D
main problem for me is just using him open world can be painful because of him being burst oriented. BUT with fontaine having enemies with more hp its not that big of an issue. Also furina actually has enough uptime for the entirety of cyno's burst so thats a plus
@@alternativealan531 yeah.. hes def not an open world char... its not fun... but against bosses and bif enemy in spiral abyss... is really hard to come close to him in the fun department
I don’t understand why Cyno always gets singled out. Im aware his best teams are very expensive, but at the same time, his best team is also one of the best single target/small AoE teams in the game. Every single hyper carry’s best teams requires very high investment and expensive units if you want to see the best out of them, and like them, you can replace his best team members with other more accessible characters like dmc and fischl at the cost of performance, just like other hyper carries. The only to this that I can think of atm is Alhaitham and Neuvillete. And now that we have supports to facilitate his long field time, I feel like people need to take another closer look.
The best st is still hu tao not cyno
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz notice how I said “one of the best” 💀
@@akamistify doesn't cut it lmfao imagine needing 3 5 star supports, 1 tailor-made for him and his signature weap only to still be beaten by a hutao or alhaitham with only 2 5 star supports , a 4 star , and with only 4 star / 3 star weap
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz I have Cyno's premium team, as well as Alhaitham's. R1 C0 for both. They are very similar in damage output, Cyno is just clunkier because he is burst reliant. He is definitely not bad at all. He is one of the most skill-intensive characters as well, because if you aren't doing the right combos on him you are out of luck. Alhaitham can do good damage even if you screw up your mirror timing since he is also an enabler for your supports to do DPS instead of being the hypercarry. Saying Cyno "doesn't cut it" is disingenuous and rage-baiting. I also have C0 R1 Hu Tao with a C0 Yelan, C6 Xingqiu, C0 Zhongli. She feels better in ST, but in AoE she falls off incredibly hard. Cyno can do both, with slight favor towards ST due to Nahida.
@@TryphectaOG cyno is worse than hu tao in aoe lmfao especially against multiwave, also who even uses zhongli in hu tao teams these days zhongli variants are the worst hu tao team variants dps wise lmfao only used by skill issued gamers
Cyno teams are quite expensive is a similar problem to Itto, their teams have many limited character and high constellation 4*. And because of how they work, as you mention, their onfield burst are disabled when they switch out that also limits the other units that can work with them. I like this video Moga, talking about the possible drowbacks of certain characters is important, since I have seen a ton of people regret or complain about pulling for X or Y and having a poor gameplay experience or not enjoying the playstyle at all.
I would say that out of Cyno's best teammates, Nahida and Baizhu are the most must-haves, both for utility and what their kit has to offer. Furina is the BiS in the Hydro slot, but you can still use Xingqiu or Yelan, and the best in the Electro slot are Shinobu and Fischl. For those who want to play with Cyno, it's an expensive situation, but his best teams involve very good characters to have in your account anyway.
imo cyno has never been "bad" he just dosent have many supoorts that can keep up with his needs unlike others. he slowly getting more and more long lasting supports so hes getting better overtime
Important thing, if you use thundering fury you can just spam Es and you always have it on time with the qte
The thing about Cyno is that he can be very strong, but he needs to be in the right teams; teams that can specifically play around his long on-field time and make it work. And some of the characters that facilitate that playstyle are other limited 5 stars. There are alternatives for some of them that are easier to get, but the list of characters you can pair with him effectively is not super large. So, if you care about the meta, it's probably better to go for those limited 5 stars first before you go for him.
But also, and here's the secret people don't wanna tell you, the meta really doesn't matter all that much if you don't want it to.
Like, one of the problems with Genshin is that there's very little endgame content that pushes your characters to the limit, but it's arguably an upside too since you can really just go for characters you want most of the time and still be able to play the game.
So, like, if Cyno looks fun and you like his personality, go for it. Thats more important than what characters are technically the strongest. Don't regret pulling for him the first time at all.
Thanks; that is precisely what I needed to hear; I keep seeing ppl shitting on cyno and I just pulled him but I dont have all 3 of his best teammates-- but honestly I dont really care. 🤷♀️
Fun over meta.
I’m with you! Play who you want to play because in the end it doesn’t really matter!
I WENT FOR C2 AND I WILL BE GOING FOR C6 HE'S SO FUN AND HE SHREDS
It's none of business but I'd strongly advise against it. If you want him to be stronger get other characters constellations for him like for Furina
kiiiing, i am also ready to c6 both cyno and ayato. i use them a lot and it's time to reward them for all the hard work they've put hahah
I would if I had more gems.
@@thefirstyakshahaving c2 Furina and nahida is as far as you need to go Cyno c6 is absurd, his normal attacks basically become his E skill which is op
C2 nahida, c1-2 furina, and his weapon are higher priorities though. these are surely the most cost efficient ways to upgrade his team.
Not me seeing this after pulling for cyno and almost giving up everything for him? I hope this video is not too bad about him😭
CAN YALL STOP FIGHTING UNDER MY COMMENT? DON'T YOU NEED TO GO TO WORK/SCHOOL OR SMTH😭
Chill mate you will be fine, every bad character can be fix by putting a hyperbloom core into it
cyno really isnt bad, hes just really investment heavy and does way better with specific characters. his best team by miles is furina cyno nahida baizhu which is 4 limited five stars. his weapon is also a huge dps bump. if you dont have some of those characters, he can still work in teams like cyno xingqui/yelan nahida/dmc fischl
cyno is great, his biggest problem is that even though his burst lasts forever he is kind of weak outside of it. so in open world cyno is a little bit meh because you won't wastw his burst on a hilichurl camp but cyno will take forever to take it down without it. other than that cyno is great!
You just need 2 archons and a liyue 5 star to play him properly
Cyno is good, just very hands on and expensive compared to other characters. Thats kinda the point of characters like him and xiao. Theyre meant to be really cool and have very smooth and fun playstyles, but because they are hypercarrys they need more investment and long duration buffs. At his best, cyno is comparable to al haitham
As a cyno haver from his first banner, he’s triple crowned with his signature weapon. If u like the character and invest into them they’re gonna be good. I saw someone 36* the abyss with freaking dps diona so that makes my point clear👍🏻 and I know this isn’t a showcase but thundering fury was going to be better for cooldown reduction here since you’re doing reactions.
I run Cyno, Nahida, Yelan (R5 Fav) and Kazuha. And he absolutely shreds anything he comes across. But I understand some people may not want to invest in a character this much but he's just so fun to play.
Goodluck going no healer in abyss lmao
Lil bro is getting one shot to any enemy that does more than 2dmg.
@@RafidW9 Just don’t get hit 🤷🏻♀️
I just built my cyno recently, I've always really liked his gameplay and had him partly built but I finally went for it. I dumped a bunch of trash artifacts into the Strongbox for thundering fury. Got him with 1800 atk, 400 em, 70 CR, and 240 CD with Homa and my accidental c1.
A few things: His rotation with furina is: Furina E, Nahida EQ, Furina Q, baizhu EQ and then cyno stuff. Now we have artifacts. Just... run thundering fury. Like just do it man, the combo with TF is not complicated. You just kinda spam E unless you get knocked back or something else, which is where cyno becomes more skillful and takes a few runs to get the hang of it. With TF you won't be running into ER issues unless you haven't built enough er onto him (130-140 % er). The "he needs/wants fishl" is not true, use fishl elsewhere unless you're playing cyno aggravate for some reason.
All of that being said: I agree with the issue of not being able to swap out. Like why can noelle do it and cyno can't. Other than that, great unit! Not mid at ALL. People say "oh he's mid" when he's competing being top 5 single target dps (which is pretty huge). And no, you don't NEED to swap out of him to reapply her trikarma, just finish his rotation and you'll still be doing dmg with xq/furina baizhu.
I have him double crowned with sig weapon and like him but hate the awkward time when you don’t have his burst and just kinda waiting
Honestly the main reason I wanna pull for Cyno no matter what is because I have this one teacher that won't stop cracking the worst jokes in the history of humankind and he's my absolute favorite. He's known as Cyno to me and my friends now lol
I love Cyno he’s such a fun character even if he’s not easy to play or not as strong
Yeah I believe you will bench him soon xD
@@aqgaming1092 funnily enough I've been enjoying the game more playing him when compared to someone like hu tao or ganyu
I've had him since first banner and he's never been benched... Used him in every abyss, and I use him in open world when I have no friendship teams going. Doing 30k skills and absolutely destroying content only with Nahida Barbara and Fischl/Venti depending on my mood. @@aqgaming1092
Got C1 Cyno on his initial release. He's very fun to play but needs heavy investment to feel like you would expect him to. Maybe a few months ago I would've said I regretted pulling for him, but he's a really good on-field DPS for someone who doesn't have a lot of other options. Also, grinding for those damn beetles he needs to ascend is absolute hell on earth.
I'm not sure if you got a response like this on your previous video using Liam as a test dummy, and excuse my comment if you already figured it out in the time since, but I think you read the part about Liam's stats on the wiki wrong. Because of his elemental mastery, Liam is the one who gets a damage bonus against you if he procs aggravate from his electro attacks, he doesn't have any lesser resistance to it.
My Cyno is my first C6 and I just got him from R1 to R3, maybe will go all the way to R5 because I just like him THAT much.
Cyno isn't bad unless "good" strictly means "versatile" or "quickswap". He isn't a jack of all trades like say Nahida, or Zhongli.
A bit tired of seeing him be singled out always ):
periodt.
Been maining Cyno and just got Neuvillette for fun, their gameplay is like night and day. Neuvi is the most broken character and needs no team to accomplish that but at the same time hes pretty brain dead and boring to play after a while, Cyno is definitely more engaging and exciting to play, he just needs a good team to shine and when you give that to him he’s one of the strongest characters in the game(no joke). But I have to agree he’s only someone you get if you really like them same with other hypercarries.
Copium
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz bro you stay in all Cyno videos just to hate, what did he do to you😂
@@Marz333 cyno be living rent free in his head lmao
@@mokalevi436 better than coping in denial like you
No fucking way you said neuv gets boring☠️☠️☠️
Just got him this patch 4.2 and boy this guy is a lot of fun! I run double electro ( Yae ) so no energy issues for me whatsoever already cleared Abyss with him despite him just haviing 1,6,7 talents ( lol 'm broke ), for me he's on the Wanderer level hack and slash no brainer gameplay of fun
I wouldn’t discourage people by saying his team is expensive. The video already stated fischl but kuki, xinqiu, and though expensive she’s very popular, yelan all work great with him. Kuki provides healing and assists in hyperbloom, xinqiu gives the best hydro application and his rain shield combined with cyno’s resistance keeps him from being interrupted except for a VERY strong attack. Nahida and/or baizhu are really his only 5 star needs
Cyno is great, but like Wriothesley, the more shit you got, the better he is. A complete opposite to Neuvi, where use pamber and already you're dishing out relevant figures.
That’s why they say neuvi ruined the meta because he’s better h the an every dps at lower investment that’s not just a cyno problem though I agree
Em sands cyno, nahida, yelan and baizhu you'll absolutely shred through anything
The weird thing about cyno is that he does like to have a lot of other 5 star units, but those units (nahida, furina, baizhu) are very good outside of Cyno teams and you're likely to have at least some of them even if you aren't pulling specifically him. Even his signature weapon is insane on a lot of different units. He's relatively inflexible but the pieces you want that make him work are VERY flexible.
I understand for some ppl Cyno can be trash or boring. Everyone has their taste. I personally love Cyno’s character and gameplay. He’s my 2nd fav and I was waiting for him for ages. I have his weapon and him at c5. I’m trying to get his c6 now (currently at 45 pity not guaranteed) I can’t take him off my team or Kazuha 😂❤ I would have managed to c6 him if I didn’t pull for furina and baizhu, but hey, getting the best teammates for him is better than cons
My current Cyno team is him, baizhu, nahida, furina
I feel like he is okay in a similar way to Yoimiya.
He can definitely pack a punch but I feel like they made his base kit weaker because they were scared that Aggravate would make him too powerful 😅
Honestly that's a good theory
Okay, a few things here that need to be addressed. The conclusion of the video is good though (Cyno = good, but not must have, like... Well, arguably every unit).
Cyno is far from being bad. He's great, but he does have some pre-requisites :
- While he can be on field for 18 secs, you usually don't want him to stay for that long. You usually want to swap out after 14 sec or so, depending on your team or your opponent's health (it's worth staying a bit longer if you know you'll kill the opponent).
- Fischl is an amazing unit to pair Cyno with : insane off field single target damage and battery. But Cyno's actual best team doesn't use her : Cyno / Furina / Nahida / Baizhu
- If you don't use Fischl, then you need ER. That's great because Cyno's best artifact set is NOT Gilded Dreams nor Maréchaussée, but Thundering Fury. Always. Even when Furina is in the team. The extra E help a LOT in reaching Cyno's ER requirements and dealing damage, while the 4pc effect also provides a nice damage bonus to electro reactions.
- Yes, his team are usually expensive. Not constellation locked, but kinda character locked. But he still functions without premium units : Cyno / DMC / Xingqiu / YaoYao is great !
- Cyno is not a must have at all : he can easily be replaced with Miko or Keqing. Performances will vary depending on the team though.
TL;DR : Cyno is great, but is not irreplaceable in his teams. Also, please build him with TF and enough ER.
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Razor and Itto has also 18s burst duration. Never remember you had complaint about those two characters 😒
Itto only has 11s duration lol take your pills
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Yeah it was a mistake 🤷🤷🤷
And Razor then
It doesn't effect itto because his team's are mono geo, there's no reaction needed
I'm a Cyno main and I can say he saves my game. (Best character I have) I do a lot of damage with him without to have even all what he needs and my team is formed of my first main, who'll never leave my team, Kaeya then I go with Benny and Aether on Dendro. And yeah! I got 20k damage already with him. And I'm more than far of his best build. Plus you need to know how to play with him to don't die that easily.. He'll be my main till the end of the game! I enjoy Genshin travelling with him and I'll do my best to get him C6 and his weapon R5 in future. He is definitely a must pull. 💜
Ayato was my first 5 star when I got into genshin last year and I still use him at AR 57. He carried my account and I still do abyss with him. He's so versatile and fun to play. Bloom/hyperbloom with him is so satisfying. Using him with Ayaka or Ganyu is also delicious.
Idrc about meta. As long as my characters do damage and kill enemies easily (which they do), idc. Ayato is great to me and I recommend pulling for him if you like his design and play style.
I strongly don't agree regardign Fishl. I have been playing Cyno since the release and never needed Fischl to close all the stars. I never played him with double electro, but double dendro teams
Cyno is one of my favorite characters and I’m so glad I got him, he’s so much fun for me.
Imagine if Cyno burst worked like Noelle burst
He would be electro alhaitham.
Should have been like that instead of being worse than keqing in agrravate and alhaitham in hyperbloom.
Man when I got Klee I couldn't believe her burst ended when you switched out and didn't stay active like Noelle's. I felt so ripped off.
I have to say, my biggest problem with Cyno was wasting his burst, because I was putting him in abyss on levels with waves of enemies, since his burst takes so long to run out, but also having a need to apply dendro to enemies. I solved by... putting him instead on floors with bosses! And I have to say, he's doing SO much better, like clear his part on floor 12 in less than a minute better.
These 2 characters are one of my favorites and they always carry me, especially Cyno. Got them both C0R1 double crown 👑
As a cyno main that loves to just unga bunga content, he is definitely one of the harder dps’ to play. I have him c0r1 and triple crowned and i believe he hits like a truck IF you play him right. Quickbloom is his strong suit so my favorite team with him atm is Cyno, Furina, Baizhu, nahida/fischl/zhongli. As for artifacts highly recommend thundering fury as it makes his playstyle more fun and it’s easier to farm because you can strongbox it. He isnt that meta, but if you invest into him and learn his playstyle, he will be VERY good.
He's mid at best
If you pay me money, I will invest in him 😂
I play c0 cyno with (no fischl bc I don’t have one) nahida/furina/and Jean vv against bosses she actually ends up swirling electro pretty commonly and I have a PJWS r1 and a er sands I’m going for his weapon still and I don’t have many er problems on the team only on nahida sometimes but Jean has around 200 er as well as furina (nahida has 106)😭 and cyno has 168🤷🏾♂️
Ayato is way worse than Cyno but no one ever talks about that
tell me how? tell me why?
I think people just don’t remember ayato😭
@@leaf1250 very fair and real point actually
My ayato does 30k damage per slash at c0 lvl 80 💀
I like how ayatos summarization is just neuvillette,like sure ayato can fit into many teams but neuvi probably still be doing more damage solo compared to his teams 😂
As an ayato fan
True honestly
Neuvillette is just too broken
But ayato is still a really good flexible character
Cyno Nahida/DMC Kuki and xingxiu. Ive been using this team in abyss every rotation.
The characters that punch or have like an infused melee (wriothesley, cyno, razor, dehya, and heizou) have some of the most fun and satisfying playstyles but are all held back either by damage numbers or general quality of life issues. It's so annoying.
Correct me if I'm wrong. A fix to Cyno's long burst duration is to treat it as a 15s (or lower) burst, not 18s. and swap characters early, think of the long burst as a bonus 3s and swap out when all buffs are gone.
thats what i do, i swap out when my other teammates get their bursts back but im having er problems :(
Good luck filling his 80 cost burst without spamming skills for the whole 18s duration lmfao
Cyno mains trying their hardest to make Cyno look good but still failing 😂
@@imakeangelscry yeah to solve that... I basically made every support become a battery for him.
Yelan having 200 er with favonious bow, Nahida having Fruit of Fulfilment, Baizhu using Favonious Codex, and my Cyno having 150 er just from substats (i somehow managed lol). With this team setup... You basically get more than enough energy before his burst even ends
@@aqgaming1092 lol Y'all are doomposting him too much
He's literally the best in quickbloom teams
tf? cyno is really good. pair him with dendro and xingqiu and he's insane
How do you build him? My Barbara does more damage atm
Pair any electro with dendro and Xingqiu and you are good to destroy 😅
Pair alhaithem with xingqiu and fichl and do 4x the damage of cyno with more controll of the burst
In my opinion getting c2 cyno is better than getting c4 Neuvi, because Neuvi is already cracked af at c0, you don’t rly need more damage except you‘re so bad at the game that you can’t 36 abyss not matter which characters you use.
Got Cyno up to C2R1 this patch and got 36 stars for the first time
Congrats
We don't care LOL
ignore the other guy in the comments
Congratulations! I'm sure this'll be far from your last 36 star from now on, good job!
@@aqgaming1092 вау ты очень много срешь пустословием в комментариях, которое ничего не изменит. и твое поведение выглядит действительно сильно озабоченным всего-лишь из-за чужого мнения. поправляйся, измученный геншиненок.
Pulled for cyno just so i can watch his burst animation everytime. it's just so cool to watch for me haha apart from that he's fun as well
SAME when I first saw his gameplay leaks I was like he’s so cool I MUST have him.
hes so good w nahida and yelan hes defo one of my best dps’ ive got
I think that my biggest problem with Cyno is that he is a very expensive unit to be very good. He kinda needs many 5 stars to be his best, and that's more investment for less result than other hypercarries
Those 5stars are must haves anyways even baizhu being the current best healer everyone should at least try to get all of them
@@Marz333 baizhu copium lmfao
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz He was the most used healer this abyss btw and will prolly still be at least top 3 for a good while. Believe it or not, Baizhu is great now.
@@Medicis1 only because bottom half is tailor made for cyno, the moment it's not full of bosses again he's a goner,
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz That's clearly not the reason he was one of most used, real reason being Furina. He is healer with the highest synergy with Furina. The most used team this abyss was -
Neuvilette, Furina, Baizhu, Kazuha, For the first half.
There's absolutely no need for dendro in the first half, yet this was most used. Says something, eh?
Ayato is really good in an hyperbloom team with Nahida, Kuki, him and either an anomo character or a healer like kokomi. From my experience is he really good if you build him well, Nevillette will probably be better but I use both of them and sometimes ayato performs better then neuvillette (in my opinion)
i was always confused why people didn't treat Cyno's burst like Childe's skill, no one uses the entirety of Childe's skill.
Because childe skill is an elemental skill, not a burst that costs fucking 80 energy and will always have a 20s cooldown regardless of if you switch out early
Stay confused xD
In an older IWTL video he kind of showed that Cyno is literally replaceable in his BiS team or rater the team is better of with someone else. Idk if that still holds up but yea lol
IWTL also rotated Cyno's team like absolute garbage not even casting Xingqiu's rainswords to generate blooms and then doing Kuki's normal attacks for like 20 times for some reason as if she was the onfielder.
Even if his point happened to be correct, I wouldn't trust him at all with his takes.
He's actually really good and fun to play the only painful thing about him is farming ☠️
speak for yourself xD
Thundering Fury 4 Pc Set still is the best set for CYNO.
after seeing streamer's mora makes me realize how broke I am
I use him in a hyperbloom team most of the time, f2p so my team is Cyno, dendro traveler, xingqiu, and fischl
I can clear domains fast, but overtime i got bored of playing him. i still really like him, but theres just better and more fun characters and teams out there
He should get his own artifact set the next time he gets a rerun, cause he desperately needs it
I agree
Hes a really good character but has misconceptions due to his release state with supports not being good with him. Absolutely not a necessary or even high value pull but he is still a great carry.
"not a necessary or even high value pull"
Well, there you go xD
Cyno mains coming up with every excuse to defend him 😂
Bruh he got good supports now. People can change their mind. But they just don't like him. Don't stay in the state of denial. Accept that people have a preference 😂
@@aqgaming1092 what does this even mean? All im saying is from the Meta POV, Cyno is underrated due to misconceptions through his release
Cyno is my favourite Character i got him c2r1 as Well (i am mostly f2p tho so i saved up a lot) so i Love seeing vids for him
Now wait until you bench him LOL
I main Cyno, also c2 :) I love him so much, I run him 2 peice wanderer, 2 peice gladiator, im working on getting 4pc gilded, My team is Cyno, Collei, Dendro traveler, Kuki Shinobu, i would replace collei or traveler with kirara or nahida but I dont have them yet so I run collei with elegy for end and kuki with 4pc tenacity, Kuki also helps a lot with er and i make sure to use her skill right before I use cynos ult to get her ring for as much of it as possible. Also make sure to dodge when your in your burst, running kuki with high er or someone with a favonius weapon will help you get it back if its not already when your done ulting :) live laugh cyno
1:48 . . . Who's gonna tell him that that's not how aggravate works. . .
He prolly meant spread, which helps nahida's e.
@@maimaibiri9045 no i'm talking about saying that *fishl is gonna steal aggravates* and i say that thats not how aggravate works since aggravate is a reaction via quicken that any electro attack can trigger and get incresed dmg theres no such thing as another electro character stealing cyno's aggravate
@@yami_does_stuff oh yeah, no idea why he thought that, maybe forgot about that Im sure he knows, no way he doesnt.
Guys just put c2 raiden in The same team she will do twice The damage and she is even a better battery
I mainly pull for characters that have a very fun playstyle and characters that are amazingly written... Cyno is both 🔥🙏 After i get Arlecchino c0r1 i will start saving for Cyno (goal c6r1)
I’d say he’s similar to my Keqing in the sense that they could definitely work with enough investment and support but not meta-destroying.
We're still talking about this? The want to hate over a character that you have the choice not to pull for is crazy toxic. 🙄
Yeah tho people want to see for themselves if the character's really that bad or are people just bad at building also its useful for other people to see if they should pull or not you know how reviews work right?
With his premium quickbloom team he's about as good as Alhaitham. Cyno clears faster against bosses, Alt clears faster against multiwave
The pure DPS might be close yeah
But alhaitham can clear bosses and multiwaves easily
While cyno struggles with multiwaves
That's why alhaitham is a lot better
Alhaitham still beats him in ST lmao this will show even harder when PMA comes back
Plain false lmao, cyno's quickbloom teams struggle to compete with Alhaitham spread let alone quickbloom
“Cyno is bad” *proceeds to one cycle a 1 million hp enemy*
thats average, even all 4 star char and weap does 1.2M per cycle
Please be for real. I highly doubt a 4 star character with a 4 star weapon is doing 1.2 mil per cycle unless they have insane buffs.@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
@@godscholar2403 u just built ur chars like shit standard national team reaches 1.2M dpr with ease even standard lisa all 4 star aggra-hyperbloom
I think it's less I have crappy builds and more you have high standards. The only characters I've seen reach that number are ultra dps' who've been built beyond the boundaries of reason and have cracked supports. And really it's only Eula and Itto.@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
@@godscholar2403 if ur xiangling doesnt do atleast 55k per pyronado your acc is an embarassment, if ur xingqiu in national doesnt do 6k per rainsword ur acc is an embarassment, if u cant vaporize every hit of xianglings ur an embarrassment, if u cant vaporize xingqiu skills ur trash at the game,if u cant double swirl ur trash at the game, if ur national team cant even reach 1.2m dpr thats pathetic simple as that
I mainly use Cyno with dendro traveller, xingqiu, kazuha and a healer (kuki, yaoyao)
i am a dedicate cyno enjoyer and i used him mostly in the abyss
After spending a week pulling him and farming for him I get this in my recommended and raiden shogun’s rerun gets announced
i already have a lot of good units+characters I personally like so I've been just spending wishes on cyno bc he's a personal fav of mine. 78 wishes and no 5 star yet :(, I also have to win the 50/50 😭
Ive got a strong c2 cyno, imo hes kind of high investment/whaling character. Ive been playing for 2 years so ive got a bunch of team options, i really wouldnt recommend him if youre f2p or early on. Mostly because 1. He doesnt have a perfect team because of burst duration and 2. He absolutely shines the brightest against a big, chunky boss. The problem is there arent any and you just feel like he never gets a chance to flex. If there ever was a massive hp boss, hes who im bringing. I wanted to use him today and killed the primo geovishap before i got a second 'e' off
Cyno/Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu is one of his best teams and relatively accessible. He's definitely better in single target but I've easily 36 star'd abyss with him virtually every patch since he's come out
Kuki is accessible? Are you sure about that? 4-star characters are not guaranteed on a rate-up banner. It depends on your luck
Funny , if youd just replaced cyno with either zhongli, yelan, or furina in that team it will be a dps increase rofl
She's been on 4 banners and possible on standard for over a year. Most F2P players will have her@@aqgaming1092
Depends on how invested or well built your Cyno is. Mine is 90/210 with 2.2k ATK and 150 EM so I doubt thats true for me@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
@@chrisatlas4503 that em way too low lmfao kuki hyperbloom would outdmg your cyno at that point
Cyno has long ult duration but you dont need to finish the whole duration. As a cyno enjoyer i always swap him out if his energy is full or near full to restart the rotation and re apply the off field buffs/skills. And after rotating, going back to cyno with his burst ready. I use thundering fury for more E in his burst.
C0R1 double crown cyno haver👋
That's not the problem 😂
People just don't like his play style. End of story
He's not bad. He's just a little worse than yae / c6lisa in quickblooms, his optimal team.
He's got a bit lower dmg and cant be swapped out easily.
He's still a good option since some people hate yae's totem, and lisa's stationary animation.
I have Baizhu, Furina, and Nahida. Also got good artifacts for him. Pulling for Cyno for me is a no brainer 😂 Will pull for R1 in his next rerun for sure.
I swear two days ago the thumbnail said “no.. but yes” when did it change?? 😭
Well cynos main issues isnt his team dps, its just that his play-style feels way worse than replacing him with and off-fielder could do the same, and he just doesnt offering anything at all for staying on field except decreasing your hblooms dmg a bit since you dont build him full em usually…
TL;DR:a hypercarry doesnt fit in bloom teams very well
I run Cyno, furina, baizhu and nahida and he deletes everything
he just need a xingqiu/yelan + furina but dendro version, basically a good dendro off-field applier(xq/yl) with long uptime(fur). So yeah, we will have to wait, until then, he will still suffer from his long on-field burst
I have c6 r3 cyno. hes totally worth it.
Well everyone won't have c6 would they? ☠️
@zehahaha123 idk. My comment is about my c6. Can't speak for everyone else. People sure try tho.
Thank you for funding the game. I can stay f2p this way LOL
@@aqgaming1092 you're welcome. I do play for me, but glad it helps others.
New player and just pulled cyno (ftp) i m not that high level but i think with good party and 300% crit rate food his burst is really good.
You know what’s absolutely crazy. You don’t have to use the entire duration of Cyno’s burst! Wow, mind blowing right! Seriously, just because he can go up to 20 seconds of burst time, who says you have to use the entirety of it. You can always swap out early to reapply any buffs necessary
True but it's not satisfying.
There are just better fun units than Cyno in my view.
My only problem with Cyno is that I already have (and love) Raiden and Fischel. It's why I didn't pull for the boss man of the prison, as I have and love Ayaka and Ganyu. There is nothing wrong with either unit, it's just a massive investment to raise them when I already have two stellar units ready to go. However, I will own up to having waaaaaaay too many Hydro units 😆 They are my weakness! They are all so lovely and their element has spectacular husbando specimens 🤣
Coping that a support will come out that will make selfish onfield ults more viable 😷☁
This is already his best team he's never getting an upgrade ever again
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz ok
Does great damage for me I don’t know what the deal is.
I guess you will never find out LOL
Maybe you don't even wanna find out. It's called willful ignorance
now that i got Cyno (got his weapon in March) he's always perfect
Im on my way to gather all the 5 star hydro characters in game. Got ayato this banner and now i only need nuevilette.
You not picking up that Hydroculus is giving me headaches lmao
Hey Moga! Just wanted to say that you really have all my respect. Keeping up with not only genshin impact which is hard on its own but also honkai star rail and other games as well. We would understand if you need a break sometime. Take care of yourself!
I pulled him on his first banner but i kinda regret it since i dont have nahida
Since this is a cyno vid I will make a joke wanna know why 6 is afraid of 7 because seven ate nine
Okay, maybe genshin is casual, but if my character does negative DMG, im not having fun.
you should try using prototype amber on nahida with a healing bonus circlet because the healing from her burst will be enough to get max stacks on furina because yours is c2 and replace baijhu with something more useful like fishl or beidou
I'm f2p and i have a c2 cyno and i rarely use him, not because his kit is weak but because i don't enjoy using him but from the time when i used him for a while here are some things that i strongly believe that no one ever brings up about him
1. just because his burst has a long duration doesn't mean he's bad because of it, if you need to switch units, no one is stopping you, it genuinely pisses me off when people complain about the duration of an on field character like they have no other option and when they stay on for the entire duration they're punished for doing so like the best example of this is childe, treat him more like a hybrid main/ sub dps, only use his skill for as long as you need to and by the time you restart your rotation and then get back to childe for dps again you should have your skill off cooldown.
2. cyno feels like he needs his c2 to be good, i understand that he can be good without it but with how well his c1 and c2 are in general and their synergy his damage feels kind of nutty
3. hot take, skyward spine is his best weapon, i know pitchforks and here's a list of reasons of why i'm wrong but just hear me out, cyno's burst is a pretty lengthy burst and every couple seconds you're supposed to use your skill to do the most amount of dps right? by the time you finish your burst you will nearly have enough energy to use your burst again already, so the reaosn why i believe skyward spine is his best weapon is because its passive works great on him but it is also a great stat stick due to the energy recharge
Is cyno good with nahida,xq and zhongli ?
i got ayato in my first 10 pull lol, i was not expecting that at all, i just always liked his design so i thought why not try my luck and baam, I am a neuvi fan tho but love building all charas
Ayato is good. Don't listen to Moga. 💀💀 He's super versatile and his attacks are satisfying af imo. I love doing hyperbloom with him
The sad thing about this is his ideal team requires all 5 stars. Making him less of a priority for me who doesn’t have his best teammates
I understand people don’t like Dori, but it’s kinda wild how nobody mentions how her kit has Cyno in mind
dori is a battery that needs a battery, there is literally no reason to ever use her over fischl, kuki, baizhu, etc
@@CherryMK_6she aint even a battery with that 80 cost burst
*She is the one that need battery*
@@irena4929needing 4 fav weapons and a fischl in your team just to battery your healer is such a mood😔😔
@@columbinadamselettefan Generally speaking, she isn't nearly that bad, energy-wise. Her A4 gives her a bit of bonus energy, and weapon-wise, she can be given the Katsuragikiri Nagamasa or use a fav herself. Her issues lie more in other areas, not her energy needs. Honestly, if you need 4 favs to battery any character, that's a behind the keyboard problem, and not one with the character.
That said, it is understandable that people don't use Dori with Cyno. Besides her general kit issues, Cyno's long on-field time means Dori loses out on an elemental skill use. That means fewer particles, fewer A4 procs, and fewer Katsaruagikiri procs. Cyno will give quite a few characters energy issues with his long on-field time.
@@Axterix13 I just use Sacrificial Greatsword and a recharge piece. Between that, and passive she has 100% uptime. That’s before things like electro resonance and other party members. As far as Cyno goes, she consolidates energy and healing really well to make room for Nahida and a flex slot. I know it isn’t the premium option but I’ve found that she really does help a lot of C0 Cyno complaints.
I will just boile it down for you
Cyno good character but not meta
Ayato really nice flexible character
But neuvillette exists
You can either follow the meta and get characters because they are strong even if they aren't fun to play
Or pull charctcers that you like their gameplay,design,personality
You will probably still be able to clear everything in the game with them if you put enough investment.
I finally got cyno but alongside ayatos weapon xdd white tassel let me introduce myself
And i don’t even have any sword user dpss’ only supports